IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 16 September 2016   (all times are UTC)

00:00
<bwmarcus>
thanks. will back it up and start exploring it more. thanks for answering, appreciated.
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06:32
<alkisg>
!ram
06:32
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'ram', but I do know about these similar topics: 'lts-parameters', 'lowram-initramfs', 'server-ram'
06:32
<alkisg>
!server-ram
06:32
<ltsp>
server-ram: LTSP server RAM *really* depends on the usage. But anyway here's an approximation: Server RAM in MB = 1500 + 30*number-of-fat-clients + 300*number-of-thin-clients
07:16
<al-geo>
cyberorg thank you for helping me. this is clien screen (i texted it) http://paste.opensuse.org/87040722
07:17
in var/log/messages no new lines after i reboot client.
07:18
<cyberorg>
al-geo, is 192.168.50.10 correct server IP?
07:19* cyberorg waves @ alkisg
07:20
<al-geo>
yes its my suse13.2
07:22
<alkisg>
Good morning cyberorg :)
07:22
<cyberorg>
hmm, then you should see requests for files in server log, is there no way that server can get to internet?
07:23
<alkisg>
al-geo, where is your TFTP dir? E.g. in /var/lib/tftpboot?
07:24
Somewhere there there's pxelinux.cfg/default, and it probably points to boot/linux, and that last file doesn't exist in TFTP
07:24
I.e. it sounds like a broken setup
07:25
<cyberorg>
al-geo, pastebin ll /srv/tftpboot/boot and cat /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default
07:26
yes, ltsp does not request boot/linux
07:27
al-geo, also pastebin rpm -qa|grep ltsp
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07:31
<cyberorg>
alkisg, we(me and couple of friends) have just launched a startup here, http://myscoolserver.com/ hopefully if all goes well then we may hire developers to work on ltsp in a year's time
07:31
<al-geo>
just a second please
07:32
<cyberorg>
alkisg, to work on ubuntu ltsp, that is
07:40
<al-geo>
http://paste.opensuse.org/41185171 this is all
07:40
here
07:42
<cyberorg>
al-geo, rm /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default and run kiwi-ltsp -c
07:43
then cat /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default proper one should be created by that command
07:44
then boot your client
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07:46
<zsdregas>
Καλημέρα! Θέλουμε να εγκαταστήσουμε LTSP Ubuntu σε server που έχει ήδη windows 10.
07:46
Κάτι με το uefi μας προβληματίζει...
07:55
<muppis>
!greek
07:55
<ltsp>
greek: Στο παρόν κανάλι μιλάνε μόνο Αγγλικά, για υποστήριξη στα Ελληνικά από την υπηρεσία Τεχνικής Στήριξης ΣΕΠΕΗΥ διαβάστε το http://ts.sch.gr/wiki/IRC και στη συνέχεια πληκτρολογήστε /j #ts.sch.gr
07:55
<al-geo>
cyberorg progress was great :) ltsp welcome menu i chose i386 but just tumbleweed icon and than black screen with blinking cursor and after 1-2 minutes restarts
07:56
<cyberorg>
al-geo, pastebin /srv/kiwi-ltsp/ and ps ax|grep vblade
07:56
<al-geo>
in var/log messages still nothing
07:57
<cyberorg>
ll /srv/kiwi-ltsp/
07:58
you can also select "debug" from boot menu to see what goes on in client
07:58
<al-geo>
http://paste.opensuse.org/7555717
07:59
debug doing nothing like other 4. just local-boot reboots
08:00
on my client there is no hdd (maby its important)
08:00
<cyberorg>
hdd is not needed, debug should show debug messages on client screen and give you shell when boot fails instead of reboot
08:02
<al-geo>
after pressing enter it blinks and again same screen
08:03
earlier while testing on EDU there was debug and i did try to fix something but i failed
08:03
<cyberorg>
ok, ln -s /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-i386 /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-ltsp && ln -s /srv/tftpboot/boot/linux-i386 /srv/tftpboot/boot/linux-ltsp
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08:04
<cyberorg>
then reboot in debug mode
08:13
<alkisg>
cyberorg: that's very nice!!! Hope it works out for you!!!
08:14
cyberorg: you may even have use for sch-scripts, our computer lab administration tool (managing users and ltsp server)
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10:35
<cyberorg>
alkisg, thanks :)
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11:18
<administrador>
hola
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11:47
<al-geo>
cyberorg on client in debug mode there is only /var/log/boot.kiwi and only errors i find in it is some dhcp errors : Failed to setup DHCP interface !
11:49
should i start over? reinstall 42.1 and start from beginning?
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12:00
<cyberorg>
al-geo, do you have different client to test?
12:01
it could be your client NIC kernel module missing, you can get boot.kiwi on usb stick and pastebin it to know for sure
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12:29
<darkend>
good morning to everyone here. I need someone to help me solve a couple of problems that come presenting the images of my thin clients. A couple of days went to ltsp-chroot and update the libreoffice image. Then I made a ltsp-update -sshkeys; ltsp-update-kernels and ltsp-update -image. When I turn on the thin clients icons directories are not visible, only the desktop icons can be seen. Any idea that could go wrong and how to fix it?
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12:52
<alkisg>
darkend: switch to ltsp-pnp? :)
12:52
!ltsp-pnp
12:52
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
12:52
<alkisg>
If maintaining a chroot with all its weird things becomes difficult... then better to do it graphically from the normal user interface
12:56
<muppis>
Ok... Localapps works in Gnome Classic, but not in LXDE, installed in Ubuntu 14.04
13:02
<alkisg>
muppis: maybe lxde doesn't respect the XDG variables?
13:03
<muppis>
Looks like.
13:06
<alkisg>
localapps is a fragile technology.. only good for a few use cases
13:07
<muppis>
Like vlc and web..
13:07
Where both are needed in this case.
13:08
<alkisg>
Why would someone have vlc and web as localapps instead of the whole session?
13:08
In which use case the web can run locally and the session cannot?
13:11
<muppis>
I started to think about it. Could be more useful run all things locally. Wish I could have time to test.
13:11
<alkisg>
For me, thin clients make more sense only when you have ancient clients with 256 mb ram and can't upgrade it
13:14
<muppis>
I need to run some tests next week, if I have some spare time.
13:14
but now off for a weekend.
13:14
<alkisg>
Setting up ltsp-pnp takes about 1 hour
13:14
bb :)
13:14
(along with the os, that is; otherwise just 10 minutes)
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14:08
<MeLLy>
Can someone help me? We are running Debian 8 on LTSP 5. We are having an issue that when users log out, sometimes they still have a process running for systemd. This creates an issue when they log back in they have more than one session opened. Is there a workaround for this?
14:08
I have tried using LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION = True but that didn't seem to solve the issue
14:29
<alkisg>
MeLLy: are you using thin or fat clients?
14:29
And, which process is that? Maybe you can google about the proper way to make it exit...
14:30
<MeLLy>
It's: /lib/systemd/systemd --user & (sd-pam)
14:31
My systems admin says he has a workaround, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a directive to put into the lts.conf possibly that I was missing
14:31
We are using thin clients
14:33
<alkisg>
In general, lts.conf doesn't mess with the server-side of things
14:33
systemd --user is actually the user session
14:33
So it's probably waiting for something else to finish, before it considers the session ended and exits
14:34
<MeLLy>
Ahhhh, I gotcha. I didn't think about that.
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19:18
<adrianorg>
Hi! I'm testing firefox as a localapp on a thin client, on Debian 8. Is it possible to make firefox, as a localapp, invoke a "non-localapp" as an external viewer? Say, firefox would invoke libreoffice when a link to an .odt file is clicked on firefox, but only firefox is a localapp, libreoffice runs on the server.
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