IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 23 September 2011   (all times are UTC)

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12:29
<jason>
hello hello
12:29jason is now known as Guest10800
12:29
<Guest10800>
How's everyone doing?
12:30
I'm curious if anybody can shed some light on a section of LTSP I have yet to use.... is it possible to utilize PowerPC clients?
12:30
<alkisg>
Sure
12:30
<Guest10800>
We just have an old library of them that are struggling to survive. Before tossing them I toyed with the idea of an LTSP setup so I wanted to do a little digging and see what I could find on the subject.
12:30
<alkisg>
Come back in 12 hours to talk with vagrantc :)
12:30
or in less than that
12:30
<Guest10800>
Oh nice - he utilizes PPC clients?
12:31
<alkisg>
I think he has some experience in that, I heard him say yesterday that he didn't get a chance to answer you
12:31
<Guest10800>
I think what I'm also semi-concerned about is I think it'd be nice to have ONE LTSP box in that entire building... I suppose it's not possible to have 2 labs (1 Dell 1 PPC) run off of the same server?
12:31
<alkisg>
It is possible
12:31
How many clients?
12:32
<Guest10800>
Well, right now we're looking at about 30 PPC clients with a handful of Dell boxes that might be scattered in a few classrooms.
12:32
<alkisg>
With a good server you should be ok
12:32
<Guest10800>
We have the server and everything already.
12:33
Due to virtualizing we have quite a few physical ones left over.
12:33
But anyway, I know PPC support hasn't been a strong point in Linux so I wasn't sure if LTSP would yield anything different.
12:34
<Hyperbyte>
What server hardware?
12:34
<Guest10800>
Man I'm not sure offhand. I actually just started this job this week. I just remember seeing a bunch of physical servers with Xeon tags on them in the closet.
12:35
They just decided to yank this lab of old PPC systems and dig up some old Dells to put in for LTSP but I got to wondering, why can't we just keep the old eMacs (PPC) and LTSP them??
12:36
But hey if it's possible, that's great. I suppose the only major difference would be the build-image command? I used to use i386. I can only imagine it would be ppc instead.
12:37
<alkisg>
Not exactly
12:37
You'd need to build the chroot in a powerpc, and transfer it
12:37
You can't use "chroot <a-root-with-incompatible-arch>'
12:37
<Guest10800>
so I can't build the image with Ubuntu/LTSP installed on a Dell server?
12:38
or am I misunderstanding...
12:38
<alkisg>
Yes, you cannot build it on the dell server
12:38
You can put it on the dell server *after* you build it
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<Guest10800>
I see, I see.
12:38
<alkisg>
But for more, ask vagrantc in a few hours
12:38
I haven't done any cross-arch builds
12:38
<Guest10800>
So I need a local installation on the eMac itself
12:38
to get the ball rolling
12:39
<alkisg>
Something like that, I imagine
12:39
<Guest10800>
Man I hope we have a Mac system with enough power :P
12:39
Some of these things are *old*. In fact I don't even know how great they'll be as clients.
12:41
Once I transfer it, is there anything special to do? Or is it just a matter of dropping it in place?
12:42
<alkisg>
An ltsp-update-kernels should suffice, you don't need much stuff after that
12:42
How much RAM do they have?
12:42
<Guest10800>
sweet.
12:42
To be honest I'm not positive. But if we need more RAM I think we could swing it.
12:42
I think 256 for a lot of them...
12:42
<alkisg>
256 should be fine
12:42
<Guest10800>
However I might be wrong. Some of them can't even handle 10.5 OSX
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12:43
<Guest10800>
If PPC works on LTSP we can make it fly. The PPC/LTSP part would have been the more dificult part.
12:43
<alkisg>
For example, PC's with 128 MB RAM can be pretty good ltsp clients, while they cannot run e..g ubuntu locally
12:43
<Guest10800>
nice, nice
12:43
I'll take this down in my notes here quick.
12:43
appreciate your time alkisg
12:44
<alkisg>
np, but I'm mostly guessing here, you need to ask someone that has actually done it :)
12:44
<Guest10800>
I understand. You're at least guiding me down the right avenue!
12:44
Thanks again bro.
12:44
Time to hit the road and get some other work done.
12:44
Take it easy.
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12:46
<kalib>
Hi people. I just got this error trying to boot a thinclient on my ltsp server. "Error changing net interface name eth0 to eth3: device or resource busy
12:46
Anyone has any idea or tip?
12:48
<alkisg>
cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
12:50
<kalib>
a second..
12:51
alkisg, http://pastebin.com/vG5jJ2GS
12:51
<alkisg>
You shouldn't have eth* modules there
12:52
*entries
12:52
<kalib>
thanks..
12:52
<alkisg>
How did you manage to get entries for eth0, eth1 and eth2?
12:52
Did you try booting via nfs rw?
12:56
<kalib>
not yet.. let me try
12:58
<alkisg>
kalib: I didn't mean that you should try
12:58
I was just asking how did you manage to get such entries there
12:58
<kalib>
alkisg, ok..
12:58
let me check something
12:58
<alkisg>
You must have done some weird thing to get that
12:59
<kalib>
probably.
12:59
but thanks for the tips. ;]
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<mgariepy>
hello everyone
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<Hyperbyte>
Heellllloooo mgariepy!
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<damormino>
What is the correct way to disable DHCP on an LTSP server? (I want to do some testing on an existing network.)
16:43
<alkisg>
distro/version?
16:43
<damormino>
Ubuntu 11.10 (beta) with 5.2.x ltsp.
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<alkisg>
To temporarily stop dhcp, you can run: sudo stop ics-dhcp-server (I may have a typo there, use tab for autocomplete)
16:44
isc
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<damormino>
alkisg: Thank you. I will try this.
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<damormino>
alkisg: They must have renamed isc-dhcp-server in Oneiric, but your answer led me to do: sudo /etc/rc3.d/S20isc-dhcp-server stop which worked.
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<mgariepy>
damormino, # service isc-dhcp-server stop
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<pmatulis>
can i use a webcam on a thin client?
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<Gadi>
pmatulis: as in "ltsp-localapps cheese" ?
18:15
<pmatulis>
Gadi: dunno, will that work?
18:15
<Gadi>
sure
18:16
just be sure the user is in whatever group s/he has to be in
18:16
like the "video" group
18:16
or whatever
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<pmatulis>
Gadi: ty, will try
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20:37
<monteslu>
ok, taking the plunge... again
20:37
kids out early for friday, and I'm gonna go from an ancient fedora to warren's build of k12linux for centos6
20:37
chrome!
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