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Hyperbyte: heya, I'm trying to open a new account in wiki.ltsp.org but it hangs in the last step, do you remember if we allow new accounts or not?
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Alas, seems like I can get fat-clients to boot, local accounts work as does internet, OR I can get fat-clients to join to our districts AD and client login work but then clients can’t access the internet. Can’t get both yet so…
I’m looking into what I would call “guest sessions” or maybe “Kiosk” mode. Does anyone have any experience with this? Problems? Suggestions for 16.04 setup? I see very little with Ubuntu 16.04, ltsp and kiosk mode
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I'm new to ltsp
Can we install LTSP package on Linux lite
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I'm new to LTSP
Can we install LTSP package on Linux lite
Can you please guide me
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I’ve seen this Firefox addon and might give it a try on Monday but not ltsp specific: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mkiosk/
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!learn ltsp-manager as LTSP Manager is a GUI tool that makes LTSP maintenance easy. It's the recommended way to install LTSP in common setups. More info: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager
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alkisg: Interesting. So could I create a bunch of local accounts (e.g. computer#1, Computer#2, Computer#3, etc and each person would login w/their computer #. What would happen if 2 people logged in w/same user?
Ah, I’ll check out that page on the ltsp-manager, didn’t know what stage it was at. Thanks
dgroos: if you only have fat clients, you can use the same user id, and a temporary home, not an sshfs home
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(the ltsp-manager link wasn't targeted specifically to you, but of course you can use it if you want, e.g. it would save you the dnsmasq issues)
For thin clients, you'd need different usernames
(We'll finish the ltsp-manager uploads and documentation within a week)
All excited to see this new project, as I understand it is the next iteration in formalizing-sharing sch-scripts approach to ltsp management.
oh, it says that :)
all the users that ltsp will user i must to create on server ?
i installed ltsp server with fat client, 30 machines working with lubuntu and epoptes
working perfect, autologin
http://imgur.com/a/uAkPF < link for pictures
ltsp-server-standlone and isc-dhcp-server
alkisg: i had to hide all the names from lightdm on lubuntu, 30 users showing on login was a weird stuff
alkisg: all clients are fat… having just 1 generic/guest user account would be great at this point. Can you direct me to a page that tells how to set up temporay homes not not sshfs homes for this 1 user?
2 more ltsp-manager questions: Since I’ve already set up my ltsp server mostly (still working on AD integration) would there be a problem installing ltsp-manager at this point? and
http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager states there will be 3 ways to create user accounts. Will one of these ways include joining an AD/LDAP domain and then create accounts/home directory upon first login?
dgroos: I don't have a written page that documents temporary homes
It shouldn't be a problem to install ltsp manager as long as you're using ltsp-pnp, dnsmasq etc
The first line in that to-be wiki page will say "ignore the ltsp-manager user management features if you use ldap"
So for now, ltsp-manager only supports local accounts
The rest of its features should of course work with ldap as well
You also might be able to make it shared folders feature work with ldap groups
(2 shared folders per class)
I’m going to seek to learn about the mounting of temp homes instead of sshfs homes.
Looking forward to explore the shared folders capabilities.
alkisg: is there some tutorial to configure ldap with ltsp ?
"I’m going to seek to learn about the mounting of temp homes instead of sshfs homes." thats ll be a good stuff
My initial hypothesis is: I need to make a standard user, edit some config file/s so that it mounts in /temp directory (in local client or server?). Starting from there: what would you recommend as google search terms? I’m at a loss as to best starting place
sorry for my bad eng. "from brazil"
mmarconm: your english looks great to me
dgroos: thank you :)
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dgroos: when /home/username exists on the client on a different file system than / (which is nbd), then the user is considered local
One way to provide that dir is with just INIT_COMMAND_xx=mkdir /run/something and then symlink it to /home/username, because /run is a tmpfs
Another way is to mount an nbd-server share via copy on write
Those things should only take 30" or so to implement..
30' sorry (mins)
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The nbd-server share is ideal because it also provides initial state, i.e. you customize /home/username on the server and after that with nbd all the clients get a clean copy on login
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And it doesn't waste any ram as it's stored server-side
Will check into, thanks again. Also, when I did install at one point it asked a yes/no question about nbd (I think you said at one point it doesn’t matter if I choose y or n). Would that affect this effort?
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dgroos: the installation page mentions that it doesn't matter ;)
Just documented it this morning...
ltsp is a active project ?
ltsp-source: at https://git.launchpad.net/ltsp/tree/
See the commits there, yes it is
30 min alkisg-time or 30 min dgroos-time? ;-)
Development goes faster when there's funding though - that's not always the case
Heh, somewhere between...
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!learn ltsp-source as at https://git.launchpad.net/ltsp/
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if 30 min alkisg time than factor that up by 30 fold…
the diference between ltsp-server and ltsp-server-standlone, standlone is more complete ?
The idea was that standalone would also include isc-dhcp
Since we moved to recommending dnsmasq, it doesn't make much difference anymore
alkisg: are u part of ltsp developer ?
Yes, there are 2 active developers currently, me and vagrantc
good i would like to help too, but i am afraid that i do not have knowledge enough
i am just a python programmer :)
mmarconm: For AD-work I used PowerBroker Identity Services Open to good effect on 10.4-14.04. Been struggling to get it to work on 16.04. Working from here: https://github.com/BeyondTrust/pbis-open/releases
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dgroos: i was searching about ldap install and i found i video about powerbroker
dgroos: i never used ldap, but i wll search about
I got AD authentication to work a few days back, but then I couldn’t get internet connectivity on the client. Then when I got connectivity on the client, I couldn’t get join to work!
Good luck—they have an open version which is similar to their enterprise version I guess.
dgroos: but do u use AD with ltsp ?
my configuration with ltsp using lubuntu i setup autologin with user per ip address
I did up through 14.04. Not getting it to work yet and first day of school is Monday so we’ll see if I can get it working for week 2…
https://github.com/mmarconm/codes/tree/master/ltsp < my configs
50-custom.conf i used to hide users from login
Might be the most cost-effective way for me, sounds like setting the homes to mount in temporary would take some 900 minutes for me to implement :-D
i used apt-cacher-ng to make a cache of deboostrap installations and others stuffs
mmarconm: ltsp uses python too, so you could help if you wanted
alkisg: hey good to know, yes i want
ltsp-build-client --mount-package-cache caches the packages
alkisg: i tried but didnt work
raspberrypi: (#1) Ubuntu/LTSP on Pi 2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/RaspberryPi, or (#2) Debian/LTSP (with raspbian chroot) on Pi: http://cascadia.debian.net/trenza/Documentation/raspberrypi-ltsp-howto/, or (#3) unofficial Ubuntu/LTSP (with raspbian chroot) on Pi: http://pinet.org.uk/
so i configured apt-cacher-ng on raspberry pi 2
See #1 there, it provides an example .conf that uses it
alkisg: its possible to configure specific ip address to a MAC address and username too ?
like i used on my lts.conf
Sure, via [mac:address] lts.conf sections
(11:45:09 μμ) mmarconm: like i used on my lts.conf => why, when did lts.conf get removed?!
We still use lts.conf...
That's wrong syntax
LDM_USERNAME = student1
i used just with ipaddress
And one more. That's a mac address, not dashes and ip too
but i want with ip username mapped to a mac address and ip
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i have to go, bbl, thankyou for you help alkisg dgroos :)
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I think at this point, just making 30 “guest1” “guest2” etc accounts and have students log in w/corresponding #’s and tell them not to save anything will be the most cost-effective approach until things are authenticating properly. Thanks alkisg for your help.
dgroos: whatever suits you; I'm always available for hire if you need help.
You can also use the first link i gave you with different accounts to erase documents and desktops only
Your call :)
That’s great you offer that service and may still call before the start of the school year is over…
ah yes… I’ll check back to that now…
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Right, that did look like a great solution. Would I put the file at: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/S00-guest-sessions or /opt/ltsp/iamd64/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/S00-guest-sessions? Currently the only thing I have now past “/opt/ltsp/“ is “/opt/ltsp/images/“ and inside of that only have amd64.img and amd64.img.old.
am trying… and using ‘sudo ltsp-update-image --cleanup /‘ instead of what it recommends on that page ‘sudo ltsp-update-image’ as not sure if things have changed though maybe doesn’t matter.
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Progress with ltsp-manager today :)
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ltsp-manager: LTSP Manager is a GUI tool that makes LTSP maintenance easy. It's the recommended way to install LTSP in common setups. More info: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager
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