IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 28 January 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:09 | <edgarin> Hi to all people
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| 00:09 | What are you doing?
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| 00:39 | <edgarin> Hi
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| 00:45 | jammcq, are you there?
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| 07:05 | <Sasha_> hey guys
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| 07:05 | Has anyone succesfully run ekiga on the client ?
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| 07:06 | I am stuck building it inside LBE
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| 07:07 | <a7ash> hey guys
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| 07:07 | <str4nd> hay
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| 07:07 | <a7ash> Hi str4nd
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| 07:08 | I was wondering if you ever used ekiga on LTSP
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| 07:08 | 4.2
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| 07:12 | <str4nd> hmm, i'm not..
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| 08:48 | <Joffrey> hallo can anyone give me tips on securing my ltsp server in Ubuntu or Edubuntu
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| 08:52 | <Joffrey> hallo can anyone give me tips on securing my ltsp server in Ubuntu or Edubuntu
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| 09:05 | <Joffrey> anyone here ?
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| 09:08 | <cliebow_> Joffrey:zup?
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| 09:11 | <Joffrey> do you know something about ssh tunnelin in Ubuntu ?
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| 09:19 | <Joffrey> do you know something about ssh tunnelin in Ubuntu ?
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| 10:38 | <mighty-d> Hi, i was wondering can i plug an usb webcam on the thin clients and use it?
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| 10:59 | <cliebow_> mighty-d:what drivers are necessary for sais camera?
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| 10:59 | this ltsp-5 or 4.2?
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| 11:00 | for instance..ovcamchip driver is in both ppc and i386 versions of ltsp5
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| 11:01 | qc-usb is not
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| 11:02 | even then..how are you going to get output to the server where your desktop is ..
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| 12:06 | <irule> hi
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| 12:07 | what is the corrcect autologin configuration for opensuse 10.2 I added it to kdmrc to no avail :s
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| 13:08 | <irule> ping
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| 13:08 | <cliebow_> pong
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| 13:11 | <irule> hi, where does opensuse 10.2 actually add autologin configuration? I know I can choose it with yast2 but I want to add it to X terminals to individually autologin to a speciffic user
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| 13:11 | hi cliebopw_
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| 13:11 | hi cliebow_
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| 13:12 | <cliebow_> hi..on the phone too
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| 15:11 | <irule> ping
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| 15:12 | <jvin248> ? Any suggestions on enabling automatic dhcp3-server starting at bootup? Running Kubuntu 6.10 and I have to manually run server after a hard reboot, runs fine thereafter until next hard reboot.
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| 15:26 | <cliebow> rcconf?
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| 15:26 | is easy
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| 15:27 | just like ntsysv in redhat
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| 15:27 | <irule> hi, where does opensuse 10.2 actually add autologin configuration? I know I can choose it with yast2 but I want to add it to X terminals to individually autologin to a speciffic user
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| 15:28 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 15:28 | <jammcq> jvin248: look at the manpage for update-rc.d
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| 15:28 | <cliebow_> jammcq:!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 15:29 | you know how the initrd is set up in ubuntu? id like to poke around
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| 15:29 | <jammcq> you prolly need something like: update-rc.d dhcp3-server defaults
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| 15:29 | <cliebow_> cant seem to mount -t ext2 -o loop
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| 15:29 | <jammcq> cliebow_: it's not really an initrd. it's an initramfs
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| 15:29 | totally different beast
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| 15:30 | cliebow_: do this: file initrd
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| 15:30 | and see what it says
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| 15:30 | prolly 'gzipped blah blah'
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| 15:31 | cliebow_: you with me?
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| 15:31 | <cliebow_> yeah gzipped..
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| 15:31 | <jammcq> ok, so now, lets gunzip a COPY of it. do this: gunzip <initrd.img-2.6.15-27.686 >/tmp/initrd.img
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| 15:31 | plug in the correct original filename
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| 15:32 | <cliebow_> k
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| 15:32 | <jammcq> ok, now, run 'file' on the result
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| 15:32 | see what it says
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| 15:32 | you'll notice it's NOT a filesystem :)
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| 15:33 | <irule> hi, where does opensuse 10.2 actually add autologin configuration? I know I can choose it with yast2 but I want to add it to X terminals to individually autologin to a speciffic user
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| 15:33 | <cliebow_> gotta look up inknow suffix business
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| 15:33 | <jammcq> irule: no clue
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| 15:33 | cliebow_: huh ?
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| 15:33 | <cliebow_> Balls
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| 15:34 | gd laptop
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| 15:34 | <jammcq> cliebow_: did you run: file /tmp/initrd.img
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| 15:34 | <cliebow_> got to look up gunzip and unknown suffix
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| 15:34 | <jammcq> cliebow_: you didn't use '<', did you?
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| 15:34 | <cliebow_> no
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| 15:34 | <jammcq> gunzip <infile >outfile
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| 15:34 | yeah, you need to do that
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| 15:35 | <cliebow_> gotta add a suffix maybe?
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| 15:35 | <jammcq> no
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| 15:35 | do what I said
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| 15:35 | feed the file to gzip, via stdin
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| 15:35 | send stdout to a new file
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| 15:35 | gzip <INFILE >OUTFILE
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| 15:35 | err
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| 15:35 | gunzip <INFILE >OUTFILE
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| 15:35 | or, if you prefer:
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| 15:35 | cat INFILE | gunzip >OUTFILE
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| 15:36 | <cliebow_> ggunzip: initrd.img-2.6.17-10-powerpc: unknown suffix -- ignored...gotta look up
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| 15:36 | <jammcq> cliebow_: STOP IT !!!!
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| 15:36 | you aren't listening to me
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| 15:36 | you MUST use the '<'
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| 15:36 | gunzip <initrd.img-2.6.17-10-powerpc >initrd.img
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| 15:37 | * jammcq wonders if cliebow_'s laptop doesn't have a '<' key | |
| 15:37 | <cliebow_> ahh..looking
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| 15:38 | * jammcq wonders looking at what | |
| 15:38 | <cliebow_> ASCII cpio file
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| 15:38 | <jammcq> heh, BINGO
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| 15:38 | do you know about cpio ?
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| 15:39 | it's just like a tarball, but they used 'cpio' instead of 'tar'
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| 15:39 | <cliebow_> never used cpio
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| 15:39 | <jammcq> ok, you wanna see what's in the file? do this:
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| 15:39 | cpio -itv <initrd.img
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| 15:39 | <cliebow_> cool
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| 15:40 | <jammcq> the 't' says "show me a table of contents"
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| 15:40 | the 'v' says "and display it on stdout, so I can actually see it
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| 15:40 | <irule> is there an micro distribution to add to the hard disk of a client to put an lzlilo in it preserving the srunk windows partition?
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| 15:40 | <jammcq> 'micro' ?
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| 15:40 | an who uses 'lilo' anymore
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| 15:41 | <cliebow_> jammcq:cool..evrytime i press on right side of laptop it does a ctrl-v
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| 15:41 | <jammcq> heh
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| 15:41 | cliebow_: don't press on the right side :)
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| 15:41 | <irule> can it added to grub? Id like to start the thing clients with the hard disk to free cdrom and floppy
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| 15:41 | thin
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| 15:41 | <cliebow_> put the p and l keys somewhere else
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| 15:42 | i see the "filesystem
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| 15:42 | <jammcq> irule: you don't need a micro distribution to do that, you just need to add grub or lilo to the hard disk, and have it load either the Etherboot image or the windows loader
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| 15:42 | cliebow_: ok, you wanna extract that archive, so you can look at the details?
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| 15:43 | <cliebow_> yeah!
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| 15:43 | <irule> thanks jammcq, so is there a website with detailed instructions on doing what you just told me? Im not quite an expert here lol
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| 15:43 | <jammcq> irule: umm, dunno. there used to be the 'Linux Documentation Project' that had all kinds of things like that. it's been years since I mucked around with that stuff
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| 15:43 | cliebow_: here's what I would do:
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| 15:43 | 1) mkdir /tmp/initrd
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| 15:44 | 2) cd /tmp/initrd
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| 15:44 | 3) cpio ivmud </tmp/initrd.img
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| 15:44 | BE CAREFUL
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| 15:44 | <cliebow_> ok!
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| 15:44 | <jammcq> if you happen to be in the wrong directory, like '/', you can trash your computer
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| 15:47 | <cliebow_> -ivmud?
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| 15:47 | <jammcq> cpio works in 3 different modes, either 'copy in', 'copy out' or 'pass-through'
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| 15:48 | in this case, you are reading an archive, so that's "copy in", that's what the '-i' is for
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| 15:48 | 'v' for verbose
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| 15:48 | 'm' to preserve permissions and ownership
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| 15:48 | 'u' to do it unconditionally
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| 15:48 | <cliebow_> gotta sommma reading to do...
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| 15:48 | <jammcq> 'd' to create directories as needed
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| 15:48 | * jammcq has been using cpio for many many years | |
| 15:49 | <jammcq> since I was first introduced to unix, back in 1984
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| 15:49 | * erdinc bye aLL.. | |
| 15:49 | <cliebow_> i was asking about the dash..i got the filesystem now
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| 15:50 | <jammcq> dash? that's how you denote options
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| 15:50 | ah, I see
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| 15:50 | I missed the '-'
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| 15:50 | bwahahahahahahaha
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| 15:50 | tar is funny, it works with or without the dash
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| 15:50 | cpio requires (like most other programs)
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| 15:50 | <cliebow_> i see then do all in reverse..the part about trashing your computer made me ask first
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| 15:52 | ok..so the kernel loads lunpacks the initramfs..then the bash script says mkdir /sys
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| 15:52 | mkdir /tmp
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| 15:52 | etc
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| 15:52 | <jammcq> which bash script?
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| 15:52 | <cliebow_> mkdir /tmp
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| 15:52 | init
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| 15:53 | mkdir -p /var/lock
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| 15:53 | <jammcq> yeah, 'init' is what's called. it does all the stuff that is needed, to prepare the real-root filesystem for mounting
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| 15:53 | you are into the bowels of the linux boot process
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| 15:53 | <cliebow_> mount -t sysfs none /sys -onodev,noexec,nosuid
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| 15:53 | that is what i was kind of hoping for..
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| 15:53 | <jammcq> yeah, mounts the pseudo filesystem 'sysfs'
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| 15:54 | you should see it mounting /proc too
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| 15:54 | <cliebow_> no other way to get my head around what iis happening
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| 15:54 | <jammcq> and maybe /dev/pts and /dev/usb
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| 15:54 | I don't remember if those are still needed
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| 15:54 | <cliebow_> mount -t proc none /proc -onodev,noexec,nosuid
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| 15:54 | Cool.it is well commented as well
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| 15:55 | any help to you to mail it to you for reference?
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| 15:55 | <jammcq> what are you looking for?
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| 15:56 | <cliebow_> initramfs.conf
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| 15:56 | a good time..
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| 15:56 | <jammcq> hmm, i'm not sure that file is actually inside the initramfs
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| 15:56 | <cliebow_> just trying to get my head around it
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| 15:56 | <jammcq> I think it's used during the creation of the initramfs, by the initramfs-tools
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| 15:56 | but... I could be wrong
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| 15:57 | <cliebow_> i see /conf/iniramfs.conf
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| 15:57 | <jammcq> oh yeah
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| 15:57 | <cliebow_> Busybox
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| 15:58 | i can copy paste em and mail em to you..this is the powerpc one
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| 15:58 | <jammcq> what would I be looking for?
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| 15:58 | seems like you are well on your way
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| 15:58 | i'm looking at an initramfs from a dapper machine right now
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| 15:59 | 2.6.15-27
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| 16:00 | <cliebow_> kind of pondering the device detection piece...but i guess that is in the nfsmount prett much
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| 16:01 | <jammcq> device detection is probably handled by udev
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| 16:02 | <cliebow_> oh right
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| 16:03 | i feel so helpless thrying to troubleshoot without poking around a little
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| 16:06 | <jammcq> with open source, you are never helpless
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| 16:08 | <cliebow_> amen..been trying to catch ogra..tell him i got the ppc ltsp5 running on my lappie
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| 16:09 | so right now most of the dev for sound is in the "chroot" right?
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| 16:09 | <jammcq> umm
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| 16:09 | probably. I don't think any sound stuff would be in the initramfs, it's not needed for booting
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| 16:10 | <cliebow_> sure..
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| 16:13 | how do the kernel options specified in dhcpd.conf get executed..ohh sya specifying a nic type?
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| 16:13 | nfs options?
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| 16:13 | <jammcq> umm, I don't have a clue how they did that in the ubuntu kernels
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| 16:13 | I only know how I did it with LTSP kernels, and that's completely different
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| 16:14 | <cliebow_> dhcp on alternate port? how did you
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| 16:14 | in 5 seconds or less
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| 16:14 | <jammcq> I did that on the dhclient command line, inside the init script
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| 16:14 | but ubuntu's stuff is way different
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| 16:15 | <cliebow_> i wonder if alternate port is supported? im gonna poke around somemore
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| 16:16 | thanks jammcq: i learned a lot
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| 16:19 | <jammcq> cool
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| 16:37 | <jvin248> jammcq, ok, I tried out "update-rc.d dhcp3-server defaults" which returned "System startup links for /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server already exist"
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| 16:40 | <cliebow> jvin248:APT-GET INSTALL RCCONF
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| 16:40 | sorry
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| 17:08 | <jvin248> cliebow, installed and ran rcconf, is it supposed to show dhcp3-server (it's not there)?
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| 17:11 | <edgarin_> Hi
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| 17:11 | some people in the channel?
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| 17:13 | <cliebow_> it should...
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| 17:15 | <edgarin_> cliebow_, hi
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| 17:15 | I have a problem with my ltsp
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| 17:15 | :S
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| 17:15 | I need help
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| 17:16 | I have 2 stations but, when I go in a terminal to play a flash game with firefox
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| 17:16 | <cliebow_> weird..mineisnt either
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| 17:16 | <edgarin_> the sound of this game is played in the server
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| 17:16 | howto i can remove the sound of the terminals?
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| 17:19 | <cliebow_> edgarin_:somehow your sound is not being redirected..
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| 17:19 | <edgarin_> and howto I can direct this sound?
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| 17:19 | <cliebow_> you have the sound scipt in /etc/profile.d
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| 17:19 | i am not good at this
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| 17:20 | <edgarin_> I only /etc/profile
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| 17:20 | in the server
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| 17:20 | <cliebow_> distro?
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| 17:21 | <edgarin_> Ubuntu
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| 17:22 | <cliebow_> hmm.did you check wiki?
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| 17:23 | <edgarin_> yes, but in this page not have thi problem
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| 17:24 | <cliebow_> best thing is to catch Gadi tomorrow..
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| 17:50 | <edgarin_> I'm back
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| 18:53 | <cliebow_> !seen ogra
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| 18:53 | <ltspbot`> cliebow_: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 2 days, 7 hours, 29 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <ogra> since you get beyond that steps
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| 19:02 | * vagrantc breathes a sigh of relief as ltsp 0.99debian11 finally made it into debian etch | |
| 19:13 | <J45p3r> cliebow: ping?
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| 19:31 | <edgarin> Hi people!
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| 19:31 | <jammcq> hey edgarin
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| 19:31 | <edgarin> jammcq, hey, how are you??
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| 19:31 | <jammcq> doing very well, how are you doing?
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| 19:32 | <edgarin> jammcq, all fine
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| 19:32 | <jammcq> great to hear
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| 19:32 | <edgarin> in this moment I have a problem
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| 19:32 | <jammcq> oh?
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| 19:32 | <edgarin> I can't configurate the nasd server
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| 19:32 | in the terminal
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| 19:32 | <jammcq> hmm, are you sure you want to use nasd? that's very old
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| 19:33 | <edgarin> I have problems with esd
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| 19:33 | <jammcq> you'll probably have more problems with nasd
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| 19:33 | <edgarin> beacause, the server have ubuntu
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| 19:33 | ohh!!
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| 19:33 | jammcq, exist another sound server ?
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| 19:33 | <jammcq> just esd and nasd
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| 19:33 | in the future, we'll have pulseaudio
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| 19:33 | but that's not shipping in any distros yet
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| 19:34 | <edgarin> cool!
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| 19:34 | see the problem
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| 19:34 | The ltsp server have Ubuntu installed
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| 19:34 | the version is Dapper
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| 19:34 | Dapper use in all esd
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| 19:34 | <jammcq> ok, that should be fine
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| 19:35 | <edgarin> but, in the terminal with esd
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| 19:36 | I can't listen music
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| 19:36 | <jammcq> why not?
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| 19:36 | <edgarin> I don't know
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| 19:36 | I configure the esd output plugin in the xmms
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| 19:37 | and I put the Ip adress and the port
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| 19:37 | the xmms show the song is playing, but the speakers don't have sound
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| 19:39 | <petre> edgarin, have you tried 'esdplay somefile.wav' ?
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| 19:39 | <jammcq> you probably need to talk to someone who understands the audio stuff much better than I do, like Gadi or sbalneav
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| 19:39 | or petre
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| 19:39 | :)
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| 19:39 | <edgarin> :)
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| 19:40 | * petre is trying to learn about sound | |
| 19:40 | <edgarin> petre, I try this in this moment wait..
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| 19:40 | the sound is played
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| 19:40 | but, the sound is listened in the server
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| 19:41 | no in the terminal
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| 19:41 | because Ubuntu use esd by default
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| 19:41 | and this is my big problem
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| 19:43 | <jammcq> that shouldn't be a problem, that should make it easier
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| 19:43 | <petre> hmm, if the sound is happening at the server, it suggests communication to the client's daemon isn't happening
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| 19:44 | * petre wonders if that means the daemon isn't loading on the client | |
| 19:47 | <edgarin> I'm back in 10 minutes
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| 19:52 | * vagrantc suspects the appropriate variables are not set. | |
| 19:57 | <cliebow> J45p3r:Pono
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| 19:57 | J45p3r:Pong
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| 19:59 | <J45p3r> hey
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| 19:59 | just wondering if you are hitting lamoine in the AM?
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| 20:00 | <cliebow> should i?
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| 20:00 | ti think they are all set up..looked so Friday Afternoon
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| 20:01 | <J45p3r> ok, carl was wondering
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| 20:01 | I'll be at BEM making sure they get going
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| 20:02 | <cliebow> i think ill come to school..and call then?
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| 20:04 | <J45p3r> ok, as long as they know proctor logins they should be ok
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| 20:06 | <cliebow> i dont know them...or how to sna them
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| 20:06 | i dont know them...or how to snag them
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| 20:07 | <J45p3r> do you know susans login at the nwea site?
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| 20:09 | <cliebow> yes curric
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| 20:09 | thikn i have it in the notes
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| 20:09 | heh
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| 20:10 | <J45p3r> ok, login there and it is under "enrollment summary"
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| 20:10 | <cliebow> ill check it
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| 20:10 | <J45p3r> for each of the schools
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| 20:11 | <cliebow> my g3 boots to ltsp5 login now...
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| 20:11 | are there video differences between first year laptops and second?
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| 20:12 | <J45p3r> meaning MLTI 1 to MLTI 2 or literally year 1 and 2?
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| 20:13 | <cliebow> year 1 year 2..g4 uses radeon driver..and the g3 at home the same
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| 20:13 | but one at school i tried had an x problem
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| 20:14 | <J45p3r> possibly the first year was 500MHz G3s, the second year was and 700MHZ, not sure about video changes though
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| 20:14 | <cliebow> i think cat /proc/cpuinfo tells the version
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| 20:16 | <J45p3r> i'm gonna hit the sack, see you tomorrow
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| 20:16 | <cliebow> J45p3r:any way..catch up wtih you later..get any sledding oin?
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| 20:16 | crikey!
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| 20:17 | good night..
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