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Channel log from 14 July 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<supreme__>
good night humans
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<jammcq>
g'morning friends
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<highvoltage>
you forgot to greet the kids. hrmph.
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<cliebow>
Hi kids!!
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<sunru>
hello, is it .xsession or .Xsession?
08:23
I put startkde in .xsession but it still loads gnome as default.
08:23
<cliebow>
sunru, which distro?
08:24
<sunru>
debian
08:24
ldm doesn't remember the users last selected session afaik,
08:25
<Gadi>
sunru: do you have a ~/.dmrc?
08:25
<cliebow>
vagrantc is out..he would know for sure
08:25
Gadi would know 8~)
08:25
Gadi knows all..
08:25
<sunru>
a .dmrc ???
08:25
<Gadi>
:P
08:25
<sunru>
please point to a doc that mentions that and please let it not be an IRC abnormally.
08:25* sunru has never heard of a .dmrc file.
08:25
<Gadi>
sunru: .dmrc is an xdg standard file
08:26
prolly something on freedesktop.org
08:26* Gadi checks
08:26
<cliebow>
moine says Session=default
08:26
<sunru>
using ldm?
08:26
<cliebow>
sorry for the accent
08:27
<Gadi>
http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en#userconfig
08:27
well, thats from gdm
08:27
Im sure kde writes there, too
08:27
and ldm started writing there since jaunty, I believe
08:27
so we could be freedesktop compliant
08:28
<sunru>
dmrc is ubuntu correct?
08:28
because who ever thought that up..
08:29
<Gadi>
no - it is xdg
08:29
freedesktop.org
08:29
it is a common configuration file for xdg-compliant display managers to record a user's session/language choice
08:29
it was thought up by a consortium
08:29
:)
08:29
<sunru>
asif .xsession wasn't enough ffs.
08:30
<Gadi>
.xsession serves a different purpose
08:30
if your choice is "Default" in .dmrc, and you have a .xsession, you will get your .xsession
08:30
but, if you chose Gnome, I am not sure that you will
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<Gadi>
but who uses .xsession anyways these days?
08:31
<clickingmouse>
anyhows my issue was solved yesterday by disabling the iptable...
08:31
<Gadi>
create a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/
08:31
:P
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<sunru>
hmm ok.
08:33
I need to setup a default user profile then.
08:33
<Gadi> it was thought up by a consortium
08:33
dude, that never made any difference.
08:34
a clique is a clique.
08:34
<Gadi>
well,
08:34
(09:28:30 AM) sunru: because who ever thought that up..
08:34
just answering a question
08:34
:P
08:34
<sunru>
er
08:34
you know the history of X right?
08:34
in fact you know the history of unix?
08:35
<Gadi>
you know the history of any technology or protocol or standard?
08:35
<sunru>
No i don't give a shit how smart you think you are.
08:35
<Gadi>
yikes
08:35
<sunru>
I'm just saying, i could wipe my arse for all eternity with all the crap thats been thought up.
08:36
bye
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<Gadi>
well, there's a cheerful way to start my day
08:37
<ogra>
wow
08:37
nice conversation
08:37
<Gadi>
was it something I said?
08:37
:)
08:38
<ogra>
i dont think so
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<alkisg>
Darn, you didn't even have time to tell him anything about his momma's fat client...
08:42
<cliebow>
lol
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08:44* Gadi makes a note to get coffee first and answer questions second
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<Gadi>
:)
08:45
<cliebow>
ya sticks your neck out and look what happens
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<bieb>
Wow .. I missed all the fun
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<cliebow>
oh bleep bleep bleep
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<ogra>
stgraber, around ?
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<stgraber>
ogra: yeah
09:51
<ogra>
stgraber, new kernel brings aufs back ;)
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<stgraber>
ogra: yep, saw that. I guess I'll wait for udhcpc to be moved to main and then tag a new ltsp + upload
09:53
that'll bring quite a lot of change that'll need testing
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<CrypTom>
hi all, how do you handle installations with several hundred users? My script (importing the users from a file) fails after putting some hundred users in one group (e.g. fuse). after that, it claims that the group fuse does not exist
09:55
I think it is because the fuse line in /etc/group is getting too long
09:58
<ogra>
stgraber, is the MIR approved ?
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<stgraber>
ogra: yeah
10:14
ogra: there were two remaining issues that I discussed with Kees yesterday, so asac was fine with it and wanted a security review and now kees is happy too
10:15
<ogra>
cool
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<GGD>
has anyone seen the fedora ltsp guru?
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<ogra>
!seen warren
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<ltspbot>
ogra: warren was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 55 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <warren> g
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<ogra>
GGD, ^^^^^
11:31
GGD, he is not around often anymore, only dropping by every few weeks
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<GGD>
dang and i had a f10 question for him
11:33
btw thanks for the code
11:33
<ogra>
:)
11:35
<marks256>
Sound works on my client for a few seconds, then it stops working, and sound is routed to the server's audio then! The sound no longer appears for the client. Anybody have any ideas why this could be?
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<Ahmuck>
marks256: report it as a bug. i've reported it, find the bug and add on to it
11:42
kinda exhausted the help in this channel
11:43
on an odd note, upgraded kubuntu and now i've lost sound on the stand alone :(
11:43
<marks256>
Ahmuck, apparently :( i'll report it. i've never reported a bug though.
11:44
<Ahmuck>
google ubuntu bugs
11:44
<marks256>
ok
11:44
<Ahmuck>
you'll need to create a launchpad account
11:44
<marks256>
i've already got a launchpad account
11:44
<Ahmuck>
after creating the launchpad account search for ltsp sound server
11:44
the bug should show up. i'll be back, i'm re-booting to see what's wrong with the stand alone
11:44
<sbalneav>
Morning all
11:45
<marks256>
sbalneav, morning
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<sbalneav>
marks256: Reporting an ubuntu bug is good, but you might also get some answers either on the pulseaudio mailing list, or they might even have a channel here on freenode
11:48
They do
11:48
#pulseaudio
11:48
<marks256>
sbalneav, :( now i see why people pay good money for server software...
11:49
sbalneav, i'll check out #pulseaudio
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<Ahmuck>
marks256: find the bug yet?
11:49
<marks256>
Ahmuck, not sure... what is the title?
11:49
<Ahmuck>
i'll locate it
11:50
<ltsppbot>
"sbalneav" pasted "pulse audio starting parameters" (14 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/445
11:51
<Ahmuck>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/236936 - related
11:51
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/274128 - also having problems with
11:51
<marks256>
sbalneav, what's the paste?
11:52
<Ahmuck>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/360355 - the one
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<Ahmuck>
on a side note, i'm not sure anybody has identified the cause yet. i think the cause is that pulse audio appears to die on the client, transferring the sound option to the server
11:53
so, it appears to be entirely related to pulse audio
11:53
<maginot>
good afternoon ... can someone tell me some pci gigabit nic model that does pxe boot? I want to buy some board to update my 10/100 clients but can't find some good pxe models
11:53
<sbalneav>
I've broached the topic in #pulseaudio
11:53
<Ahmuck>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/396709
11:54
this is also the same bug, different symptom
11:54
they are all related, now as i looking at all the bugs
11:54
<Lns>
Ahmuck, are they all triaged?
11:54
<marks256>
Ahmuck, so it seems. I had sound working on my client last night for about 5 mintues (longer than i've had before) then it crapped out again, and re-routed sound to the server
11:55
<Ahmuck>
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=ltsp+server+sound&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
11:55
Lns: not sure
11:56
getting that fixed, as well as the localapps issue would sure help us on our end alot. i think 80 of our bugs, crashes, and general onernies is related to those two things
11:56
<sbalneav>
marks256: don't muddy the waters, stick with distro-supplied packages unless they suggest using something else.
11:57
<marks256>
sbalneav, great so now i have to uninstall 9.15? :(
11:57
0
11:57
<sbalneav>
Was it any better for you?
11:57
<marks256>
oops
11:57
sbalneav, for a while it was, but now it back to the same errors
11:58
sbalneav, it doesn't actually crash rhythmbox anymore. But it still errors out and terminates pulseaudio
11:58
<sbalneav>
So, no diff. Then no loss. This is called debugging: it's a long, slow, onerous process. You may get this problem solved today. You may get it solved 6 months from now, you may never get it solved.
11:59
<marks256>
sbalneav, i hate debugging. :) yet it really is most of the thrill. ;)
11:59
<Ahmuck>
ow, never get it solved ?!
11:59
<Lns>
As far as the LP bug reports linked above, I will triage them all to the bug with most subscribers on it unless anyone has any opposition.. Ahmuck, if you're sure they are all related to the same issue as well
11:59
<Ahmuck>
is SDL being worked on?
11:59
Lns: it's all tied to pulse audio
11:59
<sbalneav>
Well, unless you want to become a pulse developer yourself :)
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<Ahmuck>
and the symptoms are pretty much the same
12:00
<sbalneav>
Remember: they're under no obligation to fix any bug for us :)
12:00
<Ahmuck>
who's under no obligation?
12:00
<sbalneav>
Anyone.
12:00
<Ahmuck>
well, not until support contracts are paid
12:00
<sbalneav>
This is Free Software.
12:01
<marks256>
sbalneav, to be fair it isn't just for "us." it's opensource, so they have an obligation to themselves as programmers ;)
12:01
<Ahmuck>
which i've been considering to get ltsp working correctly. need a few more months to raise that cash
12:01
<sbalneav>
marks256: Let me ask you a question: what obligation do you think I have to you at this point? :)
12:01* Lns doesn't like this "them" and "us" stuff
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<marks256>
sbalneav, absolutly none
12:02
<sbalneav>
Bingo.
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<sbalneav>
In Free Software, you have two, and only two choices: 1) Convince an existing developer that the problem is interesting or important enough for him/her to solve 2) fix it yourself.
12:03
<Gadi>
Ahmuck: not to stick my neck out again, but do you have libasound2-plugins installed on server or client?
12:03
<marks256>
sbalneav, exactly.
12:03
<Ahmuck>
Gadi: i'll check
12:03
<Gadi>
be gentle
12:03
:)
12:03
<sbalneav>
Morning Gadi!
12:04* Gadi nurses previous burns from themorning
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<Gadi>
!s
12:04
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:04
<sbalneav>
You burn youself?
12:04
Not seriously I hope?
12:04
<Lns>
sbalneav, where "Fix it yourself" means two choices: Fix it YOURSELF, or be the champion of collaborating with those who *can* fix it
12:04
<Gadi>
no - figuratively
12:04
*figuritively\
12:04
crap
12:04
<sbalneav>
Lns: Your two is my one
12:04* Lns hands Gadi a pint
12:05
<sbalneav>
Lns: properly is 1) fix it YOURSELF 2) YOU pay someone to fix it :)
12:05
<Lns>
sbalneav, well..i guess i mean collaborating with those outside of the existing developers
12:05
<marks256>
So is this sound issue a jaunty thing? HAS sound worked properly in the past?
12:05
<Ahmuck_>
brb
12:05
<Lns>
marks256, this is the first i've heard of it personally, i run lots of hardy servers
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<sbalneav>
Fortunately, we're pretty easy to convince here in #ltsp that problems are worth fixing, but for some of the software we *use*, it's a little harder.
12:06
We'll see if anyone bites in #pulseaudio
12:06
<Gadi>
marks256: it is most likely a pulse thing combined with ur audio chipset and alsa version
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<Gadi>
the best debug I know of for pulse is to try running it from command line as root
12:07
<marks256>
Alright. So audio has worked in the past. Ok. Maybe there i some hope then.
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<marks256>
Gadi, i have to kill it first right? then manually start it?
12:07
<Ahmuck>
actually this broke during the 8.10 --> 9.04 upgrade for me
12:07
<Gadi>
I thought it crashes?
12:08
<marks256>
Gadi, it does. But after a while. So manually start it when it crashes?
12:08
<Ahmuck>
Gadi: it gets dropped from the client
12:08
<Gadi>
get it to crash, switch to the thin client console, log in as root, and run the daemon
12:08
it should give you some nice info
12:08
<marks256>
Gadi, Ahmuck is correct.
12:08
<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: you here Alex?
12:08
<szczym>
helo all, im setting up 4-node ltsp network with ubuntu 9.04 - im having problems with booting, it happend only twice and other times its not working at all, client dont get dhcp information and not booting into remote system. could any one please help me ?
12:08
<sbalneav>
Gadi: Wonder if we could hack around it by adding a inittab (or whatever) entry for it so that if pulse kacks out, it gets auto resarted.
12:09
<maginot>
please, anyone know about any pci Gigabit NIC model with pxe boot that I can buy ?
12:09
<sbalneav>
maginot: The intel gig nicks have PXE on them.
12:10* Lns duped all above mentioned LP PA bugs to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/236936
12:10
<Gadi>
sbalneav: (while :; do pulseaudio $ARGS; done)&
12:10
<maginot>
sbalneav, so any new intel pci nic would be enought
12:10
<Gadi>
hehe
12:10
but, thats a bandaid
12:10
<sbalneav>
Gadi: that's work too.
12:10
that's?
12:11
I need to learn to speak english properly at some point in my life.
12:11
<Gadi>
u get a pass - ur canadian
12:11
<ogra>
Lns, ugh
12:11
Lns, that was a very bad ise
12:11
<Lns>
ogra, ?
12:11
<sbalneav>
maginot: SHould be OK, yes.
12:11
<marks256>
i got an error trying to restart the daemon manually!
12:11
<Gadi>
szczym: sounds like you have another dhcp server on the same network
12:11
<sbalneav>
I like intel nicks: they always for fine for me.
12:12
<marks256>
i'll paste it quick. i have to manually type it in
12:12
<ogra>
Lns, duping all unrelated PA bugs to one from ages ago
12:12
<Lns>
ogra, unrelated?
12:12
<ogra>
--exit-idle-time=-1 was added by someone to the PA settings
12:12
<Lns>
ogra, the one I duped to had the best description imho
12:12
<szczym>
i have only switch and 2 cables on dhcp interface
12:12
<ogra>
that forces PA to die after a while on the client
12:12
it wasnt there in pre jaunty
12:13
<Gadi>
szczym: a switch or a router?
12:13
<szczym>
switch: 8 port dling 100mb
12:13
<Gadi>
szczym: that is, does the switch have a dhcp server?
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<ogra>
Lns, the three bugs Ahmuck pointed to above are cleary different bugs and not all related to PA
12:13
<Lns>
ogra, ok i'll undupe them
12:13
<szczym>
gadi: no, my switch have no dhcp
12:14
<Gadi>
szczym: edit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove "splash quiet" and reboot
12:14
the client
12:14
<ogra>
Lns, i'm pretty sure "--exit-idle-time=-1" in the pulse settings is causing marks256's bug
12:14
<Gadi>
szczym: that will tell you where it fails
12:14
<Ahmuck_>
this is neat, i filed a bug a couple days ago about the slider on the server, and someone's fixed it via some update, cause it's working now
12:14
<ogra>
Lns, iirc Gadi added that for localapps
12:14
<Ahmuck_>
Gadi: libasound2-plugins installed
12:14
<Gadi>
I did no such thing
12:15
<Ahmuck_>
already
12:15
<ogra>
then it was warren i guess
12:15* Lns unduped them
12:15
<szczym>
gadi: ok, i test it
12:15
<Gadi>
Ahmuck_: have you also tried running pulseaudio from client console as root when it crashes?
12:15
<marks256>
ogra, what's this?
12:15
<Ahmuck_>
Lns ? unduped them?
12:15
Gadi: nope, but i can recreate and test that quickly
12:16
<Gadi>
I think that will provide the most info
12:17
<ogra>
marks256, --exit-idle-time=-1 in the pulse startup call tells pulse to exit after the last sample has played ... in that case sound will come out of the server
12:17
someone added that setting at some point
12:18* ogra points to http://pastebot.ltsp.org/445
12:19
<marks256>
never mind i guess the errors i got have nothign to do with this bug
12:19
ogra, so how do i fix that?
12:19
<ogra>
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/789
12:19
<Lns>
Ahmuck, Untriaged
12:20
<ogra>
added shortly before jaunty release
12:20
by fedora :P
12:21
<sbalneav>
marks256: Well, one assumes the quickest way to fix it would be:
12:21
<ogra>
originally added here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/785
12:22
<marks256>
i would like to apologize to everyone for my being difficult :(
12:22
<sbalneav>
erm
12:22
Hm
12:22
it's moved, one sec :)
12:22
<marks256>
sbalneav, ok
12:23
<Ahmuck_>
k, had sound, now no sound
12:23
Gadi: so what were u wanting me to do ?
12:23
<marks256>
Ahmuck_, how similar are our problems?
12:23
<sbalneav>
ah
12:23
go to
12:23
<Gadi>
Ahmuck_: well, log into the client, first check if pulse is running (ps -ale|grep pulse)
12:23
<sbalneav>
/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp
12:23
<ogra>
basic !
12:23
<szczym>
gadi: its not that, client still not get dhcp at all
12:24
<ogra>
he said goto !
12:24
<marks256>
good old basic days :)
12:24
sbalneav, ok i'm going there now
12:24
<sbalneav>
vi ltsp-init-common
12:24
<Gadi>
Ahmuck_: then, if it is not, try running : pulseaudio -vv
12:24
<sbalneav>
and delete the line that says: --exit-idle-time=-1 \
12:24
save it, and rebuild your image
12:25
<ogra>
Gadi, -ale ? you already think about beer at that time of day ?
12:25
<sbalneav>
if ogra's right, then that may solve the problem.
12:25
<marks256>
sbalneav, which file in /ltsp? ltsp_config?
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<szczym>
i head it booting and then i changed video card on server and its not working since than.
12:25* ogra is more a friend of -axe
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<sbalneav>
ltsp-init-common
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<ogra>
marks256, vi /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
12:25
<marks256>
sbalneav, ok
12:26
<ogra>
reove the line then call sudo ltsp-update-image
12:26
<Gadi>
szczym: it times out at DHCP..... ?
12:26
<szczym>
yes
12:26
<class1>
Gadi: http://pastebin.be/19735
12:27
<Gadi>
szczym: check the server's syslog, it sounds like something is wrong with your dhcp setup (/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf)
12:27
szczym: in syslog, you should see a DHCPDISCOVER from the client
12:27
<ogra>
sbalneav, well, i'm only assuming, but give that this was the only major change in sound setup since we added it and it was added shortly before jaunty released *and* jaunty doesnt have sound while hardy had, i would say its very likely :)
12:28
<sbalneav>
It's as good a theory as any.
12:28
<szczym>
gadi: i dont have that message
12:28
<marks256>
so what did/does --exit-idle-time=-1 do anyway?
12:28
<sbalneav>
Beats mine about ancient aztec spirits causing the problem.
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<sbalneav>
marks256: man pulseaudio :)
12:28
<marks256>
sbalneav, right ;) :D
12:29
<ogra>
marks256, it tells pulse to shut down if there is no sound played
12:29
<Gadi>
szczym: check your cables
12:29
<marks256>
ok. image is rebuilt. restarting client...
12:29
<class1>
ogra is leet, using vi and such
12:29
<marks256>
ogra, ok :) thanks
12:29
<Gadi>
ogra: actually, I think warren's attempt was to not have it shutdown
12:29
hence the "-1"
12:29
<sbalneav>
class1: We all use vi here. Leet is writing programs with cat > prog.c :)
12:30
<class1>
heh
12:30
<szczym>
gadi: i did, i hanged cables, i took working cables from other setup. than i took _working_ switch from other setup and still nothing ...
12:30
<Ahmuck_>
well, i've got some (real work to do tm) ... /me toddles off for a while
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12:30
<ogra>
Gadi, it shouldnt shut down at all if started with --system
12:31
<sbalneav>
But, maybe there's a bug. We won't know for sure unless we try :)
12:31
<ogra>
right
12:31
<bieb>
szczym: what kinda switch is it?
12:31
<ogra>
--system[=BOOL]
12:31
Run as system-wide instance instead of per-user. Please note that this disables certain features of PulseAudio and is generally not recommended unless the system
12:31
knows no local users (e.g. is a thin client).
12:31
<szczym>
dlink 8 port 100mb
12:32
<Gadi>
ogra: 0.9.11+ is spawned on demand and exits after a timeout, which causes problems
12:32
with the --system mode that we use since there is no way to spawn it on demand for remote
12:32
sound clients. 
12:32
<ogra>
this is from the 0.9.15 manpage
12:32
<szczym>
i have 2 identical, its working on other setup (but in traditional scenario, not ltsp)
12:32
<Gadi>
I just work here
12:33
:)
12:33
<bieb>
szczym: which port do you have server in?
12:34
<szczym>
bieb: server is on 5-th
12:34
clinet is on 7-th
12:35
<bieb>
szczym: this may sound odd.. but put server in 1st and client in anthing between 3-6..
12:38
<szczym>
still no luck
12:38
<bieb>
szczym: how about server in 8 and clients still in 3-6?
12:39
older small switches had one of the end ports as the "uplink" port
12:39
<ogra>
and sometimes a button to turn that into a real port
12:39
<marks256>
ogra, sbalneav, well i just made it through 2 entire songs, without it crashing... i'm going to go grab some lunch and let it play while i'm gone. hopefully it's still playing when i get back ;)
12:39
<bieb>
true
12:40
<sbalneav>
marks256: Well, that's encouraging.
12:40
<szczym>
bieb: yeah, but i have 2-year old switches, no uplink here
12:40
<ogra>
marks256, great, try using a different sound app as well during your testing, if Gadi's theroy is right that might cause probs
12:40
<alkisg>
szczym: does the client have a floppy or cd to try with gxpe? It's a *lot* easier for debugging
12:41
<marks256>
sbalneav, ogra it jsut crapped out. send audio to server
12:41
<alkisg>
szczym: I.e. you can see exactly what dhcp info reaches the client
12:41
<ogra>
meh
12:41
<szczym>
hmm, i have other clinets to tray
12:42
should normal (not pxe) clinet get dhcp massage, when connected to "ltsp interfase" ?
12:43
<alkisg>
szczym: depends on dhcpd.conf, if you haven't modified it, then yes.
12:43
<szczym>
hmm
12:43
it dont get
12:44
i change a network card, maybe its some phisical distraction
12:44
<alkisg>
You have a normal client there? Can you ping the server with it?
12:44
<szczym>
normal client dont get dhcp also ...
12:46
<alkisg>
Well, you can put a static ip and try to ping the server. If you can't, there's another problem, it's not dhcp related...
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<szczym>
alkisg: i will do so, its a right thing to do will all that wired symptoms ...
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13:11
<rjune_wrk>
!o
13:11
<ltspbot>
rjune_wrk: "o" is o is for ogra!!!!!!!!!
13:14
<Ahmuck_>
!a
13:14
<ltspbot>
Ahmuck_: Error: "a" is not a valid command.
13:14
<rjune_wrk>
LOL
13:14
<Ahmuck_>
:)
13:15
"a" is a is for Awesome Ahmuck
13:16
<rjune_wrk>
!a
13:16
<ltspbot>
rjune_wrk: Error: "a" is not a valid command.
13:16
<rjune_wrk>
still no.
13:16
<Ahmuck_>
:p
13:17
<rjune_wrk>
!a
13:17
<ltspbot>
rjune_wrk: "a" is Awesome Ahmuck
13:17
<rjune_wrk>
There you go.
13:18
<Ahmuck>
:)
13:26
<GGD>
rjune_wrk: do you want to talk here?
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13:28
<GGD>
the question that i have is that i want to create a netboot client from f10 and push out a small os package with the bookmarks etc from the server to each machine on the network...
13:28
<rjune_wrk>
Ah.
13:28
<GGD>
and update that when the server updates also when the user logs in it goes to their respective shares
13:29
<rjune_wrk>
I'm not able to help you much with setting up f10 as the netboot OS.
13:29
<GGD>
no f10 is the server...
13:29
<rjune_wrk>
ok.
13:29
do you have that part working?
13:29
<GGD>
yes
13:29
the server is up
13:29
andhumming fine
13:29
:D
13:29
<rjune_wrk>
ok, so you need the bookmark thing to work, then yes?
13:29
<GGD>
yes
13:29
most of the apps are websites
13:30
<rjune_wrk>
I think you need to look at Sabyon
13:30
You are using GNOME, right?
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<GGD>
yea
13:30
<rjune_wrk>
Your question is really one of how do I do this in Fedora. it's not LTSP specific at all.
13:30
<GGD>
but they might have apps that we want to push to the clients too..
13:30
<rjune_wrk>
You don't push apps to the clients
13:30
<GGD>
i suppose
13:30
<_UsUrPeR_>
hey all. anyone versed in iTalc?
13:30
<rjune_wrk>
You push bookmarks to the users.
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<rjune_wrk>
apps are all run on the server.
13:30
<GGD>
ahh
13:31
<rjune_wrk>
*unless* you are actively using local apps
13:31
Odds are, you aren't doing that though.
13:31
<GGD>
( cold meds tend to mess you up sometimes)
13:31
<rjune_wrk>
aka, if you don't know, you aren't doing it.
13:31
<GGD>
understood
13:31
:)
13:31
<rjune_wrk>
ok, so back to your question.
13:32
<GGD>
ok
13:32
<rjune_wrk>
pretty sure sabyon lets you setup a profile, etc.
13:32
which can push configs to your users.
13:32
<GGD>
ok
13:32
<_UsUrPeR_>
I am getting really, REALLY awful response times from commands entered via the management console of iTalc, and there does not appear to be anything I can do to make it act any quicker. It's as if the program is hung up with network traffic, when in fact it's communicating with a single client. :(
13:32
<rjune_wrk>
Though if you just want bookmarks, you might look at the delicious or foxmarks plugins
13:32
<GGD>
with all their shares on the server correct
13:32
<rjune_wrk>
All their everything is on the server.
13:32
<GGD>
correct
13:32
<rjune_wrk>
They will actually be using the server resources.
13:33
not the local ones
13:33
<GGD>
yes
13:33
<rjune_wrk>
if you have multiple servers to push this to, You might need to know how to do that(I'm clueless there, but I can help you ask the right questions)
13:33
<GGD>
and build this "image" based on the server and the apps/ bookmarks on the server
13:34
<rjune_wrk>
There isn't an "image" it's called a user profile.
13:34
<GGD>
ok
13:34
<rjune_wrk>
Image indicates a snapshot of a disk.
13:34
<GGD>
ahh
13:34
like ghost
13:34
etc
13:34
<rjune_wrk>
This is central configuration of the web browser.
13:34
yup.
13:34
<GGD>
oh ok
13:35
:) see the meds haven't made me loose all my marbles (yet) :D
13:36
would this be easy to rebuild if lets say there were new apps placed on the server for the users to use?
13:37
does that make sense?
13:37
<rjune_wrk>
I don't know.
13:38
I've not used Sabyon in a while. You might verify that's the proper application and find somebody in #fedora or #gnome that's familiar with it
13:38
<GGD>
ok
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<GGD>
thank you you have at least put some ideas/ questions to ask
13:38
people
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13:45
<_UsUrPeR_>
So pertaining to my question above: has anyone in here had any experience with italc?
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<Lns>
_UsUrPeR_, I've messed with it on Ubu8.04...it wasn't very straight forward to get it to work, but I did get it to work...using it from a thin client was really sludgy for me
13:47
I ended up forgetting about it and focusing on other stuff
13:48
<_UsUrPeR_>
lns: ok. Hmm... how did the "control student computer" option work out for you?
13:48
I.E. double-click on a student dektop
13:49
<Lns>
_UsUrPeR_, it *kind of* worked for me... iirc it was pretty buggy though, sometimes stuff would show up and sometimes it wouldn't
13:50
it could have been my fault, I dunno, but all in all I wasn't very impressed
13:50
<_UsUrPeR_>
hmm
13:51
<Lns>
there were random errors regarding the communication between server&client, and it seemed to affect other aspects of normal operation...again, though, Im sure others have had more positive experiences than me
13:51
<_UsUrPeR_>
yeah :/
13:51
I wonder where those people are hiding
13:53
I don't know if thin clients were the core audience of this program
13:53
<Lns>
They weren't
13:53
iTalc is cross platform and seems to be geared toward win/lin workstations
13:55* Lns shamelessly plugs http://logicalnetworking.net/wiki/doku.php
13:56
<_UsUrPeR_>
OH HELLO THERE
13:56* _UsUrPeR_ reads further
13:58
<_UsUrPeR_>
Lns: have you tried this out in 9.04 yet?
13:59
<Lns>
_UsUrPeR_, haven't tried it in 8.04 yet ;) Still cleaning up code, it's not totally functional yet. Any one willing to help contribute is very much welcome =)
13:59* _UsUrPeR_ will contribute
13:59
<_UsUrPeR_>
right now.
13:59
do you have some time?
14:00
<Lns>
_UsUrPeR_, sure, I'll help you with what I can - I am the self stated "visionary/funder" of the project, ianap ;)
14:00
if you wanna join up in #lns we can talk further
14:03
<_UsUrPeR_>
lns: give me a bit here. something has come up :P
14:03
<Lns>
np
14:03
<ogra>
Lns, italC is very straight forward if you go the easy way :
14:03
)
14:04
<Lns>
ogra, what's the "easy way" ?
14:04
<rjune_wrk>
probably don't use it.
14:04
<ogra>
install clian and server on the server machine
14:04
*client
14:04
<Lns>
ogra, well that means you can't control non-logged-in clients thought =(
14:04
though*
14:04
<ogra>
right
14:04
<Lns>
booo
14:05
<ogra>
you lose functionallity for taking the easy path
14:05
but its quick and should just work
14:05
<Lns>
i'll have to do it that way when i'm in the office next
14:05
<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra/lns et all, this is quite possibly the worst visual throughput I have ever seen on a 10/100 network
14:05
<ogra>
if you want system control it gets more tricky
14:06
though to my knowledge you just install the client in the chroot and re-roll the image
14:06
that should be all
14:06
<Lns>
ogra, yeah - we're working on getting the system control going w/tcm, shutdown/startup, scheduling cron-type jobs, etc
14:06
ogra, yeah..did you ever actually do it? ;)
14:06
<ogra>
no :)
14:07
i touched italc only for one release pre hardy
14:07
<Lns>
hehe..there are a few strange quirks that really kinda pushed me away from it
14:07
ogra, I liked your tcm code much better (which is why i adopted it in favor of italc) ;)
14:08
<ogra>
well, but tcm is really simple session control, while italc is a full classroom management
14:08
and it was a massive failure to add more feature to tcm ... but i recognized that to late
14:08
(vnc was a desaster)
14:09
<Lns>
TCM will grow into a full classroom management platform when we're satisfied with it...
14:09
ogra, yeah - VNC is what we're focusing on right now
14:09
having to redo it all
14:09
<ogra>
well, good luck is all i can say
14:09
ripping out the VNC code was the best i did to it imho :)
14:09
<Lns>
haha - can you elaborate on that at all?
14:09
Might be useful to yanqui and moldy
14:10
we're trying to figure out how to best implement it
14:10
<ogra>
well, i wrote the initial very minimal app, then gave it to someone who wanted to make it a real classroom management software
14:11* alkisg thinks vnc is too slow for classroom usage... something with xshm should be used for ltsp :(
14:11
<ogra>
it started to produce massive load due to all the chatting it constantly did over the network, the split of the code made it totally confusing, but it still worked back then
14:11
then he added VNC
14:12
which polled screens from *all* clients every few seconds ... additionally to the massive network noise
14:12
that simply made it unusable
14:13
<Lns>
ogra, right, i saw that as well. We're thinking about doing a periodic static screenshot for the screen 'thumbnails' instead of polling through VNC. I can't believe that would have ever worked.
14:13
<ogra>
and back then i didnt have the time to go back to the simple codebase from the beginning ... so all i managed to do was to adjust the code a bit to actually detect the sessions and completely kill off the VNC part
14:13
<Gadi>
u guys see the news blip on google's neatX?
14:13
<Lns>
I was thinking possibly a very low-res, low framerate vnc for thumbnails might work too, but i really have no clue
14:14
Gadi, yeah!!
14:14
<ogra>
Gadi, is that remote chromeOS ?
14:14* Gadi thinks if we can get a caching Xserver option into ldm, *then* you can get your snapshots
14:14
<Gadi>
ogra: who knows?
14:14
its FreeNX refactored
14:14
<Lns>
Gadi, that's a great idea...but who knows what kind of state neatX is in or will be in ?
14:14
<ogra>
does it require a browser and ADs ?
14:14
<Gadi>
no
14:14
its just NX
14:14
reimplemented
14:14
<Lns>
opensourced
14:15
<Gadi>
but, if you have a caching Xserver on localhost, you can do your classroom management without network overhead
14:15* ogra got very careful about opensourced if google sticks near it ...
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14:16
<ogra>
i have seen android from the inside now ... and that was a scary experience
14:16* Gadi wonders why he finds that dirty
14:16
<alkisg>
messy code?
14:16
<ogra>
nah
14:16* Lns slaps Gadi with a large trout
14:16
<ogra>
but it claims to be a linux OS
14:17
which it totally isnt
14:17
its a complete fork with tons of stuff rewritten
14:17
not even using glibc
14:17
<highvoltage>
ogra: I read that the palm pre is much better than android in terms of being a real linux system
14:17
(it even uses upstart)
14:17
<ogra>
yeah, thats true
14:17
(both)
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<alkisg>
Yeah, and google OS won't have X, either
14:18
<ogra>
though the nature of android being originally linux makes it trivial to make the apps run on linux
14:18
thats the good part
14:18
<Lns>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) - says it's just using the Linux kernel
14:18
<ogra>
ab-using :)
14:18
<alkisg>
Heh
14:19
<Lns>
heh
14:19
well it's open source, you can't bash em for that!
14:19
<ogra>
using the linux kernel means you send your patches upstream and they are in a state that upstream can actually accept them
14:19
the first part happened ... the second might never happen :)
14:20
it mover away from linux quite a bit
14:20
<alkisg>
If they wanna keep using it, they'll need to learn to send patches upstream, otherwise it'll be harder for them to maintain the patches, won't they?
14:20
<Lns>
ogra, what would be the use, if they're simply crafting it for their devices? why would mainstream linux kernel want to accept it anyway?
14:20
<ogra>
*moved
14:20
Lns, so others can make use of the bits and pieces on other devices
14:21
<Lns>
agreed.. Of course, you can't say that plenty of others aren't doing the exact same thing...if someone wants it, the code is there, right?
14:21
<ogra>
saying its linux is a moot point if you start to build Lns-phone and suddenly realize you cant actually make use of the code on your device
14:22
simply because it was written totally centric to one device while there were portable code bits in the linux ustream kernel
14:22
<Lns>
ah..ok, agreed
14:22
they need to be better FOSS citizens
14:22
<ogra>
well, they need to work more with upstream
14:22
<rjune_wrk>
that's pretty common
14:22
apple had issues with webkit initially
14:23
<ogra>
the publish their code, license it properly etc
14:23
its just a communication and collaboration issue
14:23
but its a massive issue if you atually belive the promises and base your business on it
14:23
*actually
14:23* Lns thinks of redhat
14:24
<jammcq>
I think Chris DiBona is the main google guy for keeping in touch with the linux community. if google isn't doing enough, it's most likely because Chris is simply overworked
14:24
<ogra>
yeah
14:24
<rjune_wrk>
I'll happily be his right hand man.
14:24
<ogra>
he surely is
14:24
and he'S a good guy
14:24
i trust him
14:24
<jammcq>
there's nothing Evil going on. it's just stretching resources beyond their limits
14:25
<ogra>
but seeing android made me lose a bit of faith in the quality they deliver
14:25
<jammcq>
He was down in brazil at FISL this year. I bumped into him at almost every dinner, but we really didn't get much chance to talk this time
14:25
<ogra>
and chormeOs just scares me simply because they put even more load on themselves without compensation
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<Lns>
ogra, I like Canonical's response to ChromeOS
14:26
<ogra>
we have one ?
14:26
<Lns>
yeah lemme dig up the article
14:26
<jammcq>
they have one?
14:26* ogra didnt have time to read any news for about three weeks
14:27
<ogra>
way to busy
14:27
up to my legs in arms :)
14:27
<sbalneav>
ba-dum-bum
14:27
<alkisg>
So when are we gonna see the results?
14:27
<sbalneav>
(highhat)
14:27
<Lns>
lol
14:27
<jammcq>
sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14:27
<sbalneav>
Hey jammcq
14:28
<ogra>
alkisg, if the silly HW vendors actually do what the second part of their name suggest ... and start vending hardware :)
14:28
<rjune_wrk>
Lns: please, post it in channel, I want to see it
14:28
<Lns>
rjune_wrk, looking ;)
14:28* ogra just gets a big bowl of soup ... dinner ...
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<alkisg>
Lns, http://logicalnetworking.net/wiki/doku.php => Grawert, not Grewart
14:33
<ogra>
heh, yeah
14:33
<Lns>
oops
14:34
fixed
14:34
ah crap...haha
14:34
grawart
14:34
there
14:34
<ogra>
Grawert :)
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14:35
<ogra>
only one a
14:35
<Lns>
damn germans ;)
14:35
<ogra>
the name is actually polish i think
14:36
<rjune_wrk>
don't be picky.\
14:36
<ogra>
:)
14:36
<rjune_wrk>
at least he got it right now.
14:36
<Lns>
Mmmmm...polish dogs
14:36
<rjune_wrk>
Ogra, I have a quick error, curious if you've seen it before
14:36
<Lns>
I swear I saw that response to chromeOS...can't seem to locate it
14:38
<rjune_wrk>
ogra: General protection eip:<address> esp:<address> error:0
14:39
<ogra>
kernel oops
14:39
<rjune_wrk>
not the full message though?
14:39
<ogra>
ask a kernel guy :)
14:39
<rjune_wrk>
Thats fine, Ididn't think it was an actual oops, and more a this particular program did something bad.
14:39* ogra could only forward it to the kernel team
14:40
<rjune_wrk>
that's ok, I'll poke it. If you're not familiar that's fine.
14:40
Just curious if you've run across it
14:40
<ogra>
only in the form of oopses
14:41
<rjune_wrk>
ok. thanks ogra
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<jammcq>
CAN-o-SPAM: ping
14:47
<CAN-o-SPAM>
jammcq: pong
14:47
<jammcq>
you were looking for me yesterday?
14:50
<Lns>
rjune_wrk, all - http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9135365/Ubuntu_s_maker_Chrome_OS_no_slam_dunk_just_because_Google_announces_it
14:50
<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: hows it going Alex?
15:03
<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: good how are you!
15:03
<bieb>
good
15:03
did you get the PO?
15:04
<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: yes ... orders are high inventory is low, expect it to ship before the end of the month
15:04
<bieb>
ohh..
15:05
do you have any in stock currently?
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: in two days you'll get a better update
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<bieb>
will you email the info? or should I check here?
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: e-mail.
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<bieb>
ok
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: any progess with MS Office?
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<bieb>
still working on it.. was hoping to have a client or 2 for testing
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talk with you later.. gotta run
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<edgamen>
hi , I'ḿ confused. I'm using Edubuntu 8.04 it's working with LTSP5 by default, I guess, but when I try to enable lts.conf configurations it doesn't work. Where is the path to put lts.conf in this distro? Maybe that is the mistake...Thanks.
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<trampfox>
try under /var/tftboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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<Lns>
edgamen, also, one thing I forgot early on was to make sure you have a [default] section at the top
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<trampfox>
how can I shutdown the thin client?
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<edgamen>
ok. thank you. what permissions must that file have?
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<Lns>
edgamen, 644 should be fine
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<edgamen>
thanks a lot. is the same path i tried . I'll work on that. good luck. cu
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<sbalneav>
....Gentlemen.
19:54* sbalneav straightens tie.
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20:58
<Ahmuck_>
evening
20:58
how's the pulseaudio problem coming?
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21:15
<sbalneav>
Ahmuck-Jr: I dunno. Have you made any progress?
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
nope. i had wondered if mark had
21:17
i'm still where i was last evening
21:17
er, this afternoon
21:17
dropped by to see if anything was found out
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is it possible this SDL is related?
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<sbalneav>
I think it's just a pulseaudio bug. I've been monitoring #pulseaudio today, and there's been 4 or 5 other people who have popped in there complaining of pulse dying on them on standalone boxes.
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
anyway of moving from pulseaudio for ltsp ?
21:23
<sbalneav>
Sure. We left esd support in there.
21:24
But then you're back to the reasons why we left esd.
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
pulseaudio is enabled on the client side?
21:24
i assume
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<sbalneav>
Yes.
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And pulse is becoming the standard sound server for most Linux distros.
21:26
So "moving away from pulse" doesn't seem to be a sound (haha) option.
21:27
Figuring out how we can help identify and fix the problem seems to be a better plan :)
21:29* sbalneav keeps examining pulse source.
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<sbalneav>
Thing is, I'm on Jaunty here at home, and I can't seem to get it to fail.
21:31
<Ahmuck-Jr>
jaunty ltsp?
21:32
<sbalneav>
yes.
21:32* sbalneav goes to create a fresh chroot
21:32
<Ahmuck-Jr>
wouldn't have anything to do with switch/router config?
21:34
<sbalneav>
Well, I've got a bog standard d-link switch. Apparently, people say sound stops working. But, other things still work. If it was a switch problem, I'd expect *everything* to stop working.
21:37
Why, you have some kind of special switch or router?
21:38
<Ahmuck-Jr>
linksys slm2008 gigabyte switch and cabling
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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps9996/index.html
21:39
smart switch
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spanning trees, traffic shaping, etc.
21:41
<sbalneav>
ok
21:41
so, logical question, then.
21:41
If you think it *may* be the switch, have you tried substituting a normal switch in?
21:43
<Ahmuck-Jr>
nope, all out of cash
21:44
<sbalneav>
What, so you can't *borrow* a switch? :)
21:46
<Ahmuck>
nope
21:46
i'm going to pull the switch and put a standard router in and see what happens
21:46
i do have one of those
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linksys gl
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<sbalneav>
Ahmuck: so if you just let it play a tune, it eventually stops, right?
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<Ahmuck>
flash
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youtube doesn't seem to happen
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i've not tried cd's
22:20
i can
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<sbalneav>
Youtube is flash, is it not?
22:21
Or do you have another example site?
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<class1>
youtube works fine. let me test right now, then i sleepy and go home
22:31
No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
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<sbalneav>
Well, I've been playing tunes off of jamendo for 3/4 of an hour now, pausing & restarting, no problem.
22:43
Flash youtube audio playback's fine, video's a bit chopy, but that's normal.
22:43
Youtube playback via totem is 100%. Smooth video and sound.
22:43
Here's my setup
22:43
Server:
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz
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Intel chipset mobo, 945G video
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2 gigs ram
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bogomips: 6319.73
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Intel 100mbit card
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Network hardware:
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d-link 24 port 100mbit "dumb" switch
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Client:
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Intel mobo,
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz
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1 gig ram
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Onboard intel network card, 100mbit
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Server's running 32bits
22:47
No detected problems with pulse. I've been beating sound up all evening.
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
brb
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<class1>
hrm lost sound
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<sbalneav>
Pulse has only managed to accumulate 29 seconds of cpu time so far.
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
server running 32bit on a 64bit proc
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here
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amd
23:41
well, gtg, i'm sleepy
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