IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 18 January 2017   (all times are UTC)

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<vagrantc>
highvoltage: well, i've almost got ldm-themes with softwaves theme built.
00:44
pretty-much just a copy/paste of the lines theme with a new background .svg
00:49
alkisg: what was the trick you had about a transparent logo to fix the login display issues?
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<vagrantc>
highvoltage: and uploaded ldm-themes 17.01 :)
02:57
the menu selections could probably use a more elegant touch-up with the colors ...
03:02
but at least we'll get something in time for the freeze
03:04
arg, nbd is hanging on shutdown now
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<avega>
hi there, I've been trying for several days to put a ltsp-server on my linux mint, tried several instructions , both normal and pnp. By a chance anyone was succesful on linux mint so you can guide me.
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04:41
<highvoltage>
va<tab> *sigh* :)
04:42
(time for good old email)
04:43
<gehidore>
+1+
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<alkisg>
highvoltage, va<tab>: the trick with the debian theme cutting the translated "username:" in half, was to put a wider logo on top of it, even if half of the logo was transparent
06:43
Message #20 in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=615017
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<highvoltage>
yeah I'm more curious how vagrant is getting it into the archive with the freeze. debian seems really strict about it and I was a bit worried about it, but I guess vagrant knows a trick.
06:45
<alkisg>
highvoltage: isn't the freeze at 6th of february?
06:45
minus 10 days for the testing migration => 26th of jan...
06:46
<highvoltage>
alkisg: https://release.debian.org/stretch/freeze_policy.html
06:46
I guess artwork is fine for soft-freeze then
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<lliurex-admin>
hi
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<sbalneav>
So, what should I be working on next? I don't want to lose the momentum we've built for LTSP6
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17:03
<alkisg>
vagrantc: ping?
17:10
<vagrantc>
alkisg: ping
17:11
<sbalneav>
alkisg, vagrantc: what should I work on next?
17:12
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: i was thinking of packaging up the pam_sshauth.py stuff into libpam-sshauth and uploading to debian experimental (as it's really too late for such major changes for stretch)
17:13
<sbalneav>
Cool
17:14
<vagrantc>
!ltsp6
17:14
<ltsp`>
ltsp6: (#1) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/?field.tag=ltsp6, or (#2) wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Dev:LTSPPamNotes
17:14
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: see anything in there to prod?
17:18
<sbalneav>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1653282
17:18
lightdm doesn't use .dmrc?
17:18* vagrantc curses lightdm
17:20
<sbalneav>
hm
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17:22* vagrantc wonders what should be cherry-picked from ltsp5 into ltsp6
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<vagrantc>
not a whole lot, but i think we want to keep init-ltsp.d or something similar, and maybe rewrite ltsp-update-image to be a little more modular/functional
17:23
<sbalneav>
We haven't got anything in yet for building chroots or stuff.
17:23
yeah
17:23
<vagrantc>
yeah, i've been meaning to take a stab at chroot building
17:24
although i'm kind of of the opionion that there will be no ltsp-build-client, just some simple documentation along the lines of "build a chroot, install ltsp-client"
17:24
with some recommended chroot-building tools
17:25
i think i took the chroot-building bug
17:25
of, if there is an ltsp-build-client, it will be hugely simplified
17:25
otavio and i kind of over-engineered that when we added multi-distro support
17:29
<sbalneav>
I'm happy if we just divest ourselves of it and use some other chroot building tool. Which one were you thinking?
17:30
<vagrantc>
well, i wasn't thinking any one in particular, honestly.
17:30
<sbalneav>
debootstrap/schroot?
17:30
<vagrantc>
i did think about having a go at some ansible modules
17:31
vmdebootstrap looked promising, but it would take too much patching to just be a chroot-builder
17:31
grml-debootstrap maybe
17:32
but also, since it's going to be distro-specific, each distro is going to have it's own chroot builder family
17:33
basically, everything should just be "install a minimal chroot, install ltsp-client, install whatever else you might want"
17:33
some of the chroot builders can handle the installation of additional packages out of the box
17:34
but i'm not thinking ltsp-build-client in $PATH, rather some example scripts in docs and whatnot
17:34
i could be convinced otherwise
17:34
<sbalneav>
Not by me. I like that approach.
17:35
Just document what a chroot must contain.
17:35
Far easier for other distros to support.
17:36
<vagrantc>
exactly
17:37
<alkisg>
vagrantc: we're thinking of recommending ssvnc, because tigervnc doesn't support multiple incoming connections
17:38
<vagrantc>
alkisg: yeah, saw that
17:38
<alkisg>
if default-jre is an issue, maybe we could ask the debian maintainers to ship another package, like ssvnc-nojava, which doesn't have that recommendation?
17:40
<vagrantc>
oh yeah, that was really annoying
17:40
<alkisg>
Or just lower it to "suggests"...
17:40
<vagrantc>
well, the whole point of recommends is to allow maintainers to ship huge dependency trees without having to ship a separate package
17:41
suggests basically means nothing
17:41
<alkisg>
We do have ltsp-server-standalone and ltsp-server for the same purpose
17:41
But OK I don't mind having chroots with java in them :D
17:41
I'm using ltsp-pnp anyway :D
17:41
So if you don't mind, I don't mind either!
17:41
suggests means "there's some additional functionality if you manually install that package"
17:42
Which is what the java applet is about
17:42
<vagrantc>
alkisg: if it's the best option, it's unfortunate to bloat the minimal install, but if people really care, they can install epoptes with recommends disabled
17:42
<alkisg>
OK
17:42
For ubuntu 16.04 we'll keep the xvnc4viewer first
17:42
<vagrantc>
alkisg: we could ask to get it demoted to suggests, but practicall speaking, suggests aren't used much
17:42
<alkisg>
So it'll only affect stretch users
17:42
I don't think ssvnc java applet is used much either
17:43
(compared to the actual ssvnc client)
17:43
<vagrantc>
it's worth filing a wishlist bug about it, for sure
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<bennabiy>
Hrm, my usb ports on my fat client are spotty
21:32
cannot hook up a thumb drive to it
21:32
but the drive works fine in the server
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