IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 22 July 2013   (all times are UTC)

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07:15
<Enslaver>
People are having issues with my build, i'm having to take the 3rd cypher off the ltsp-update-sshkeys and just use dsa/rsa
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<Enslaver>
separating that from the main ltsp tree
07:16
we will probably need to do an if check later in the scripts to globalize the way it checks for supported cyphers
07:16
i'll code later, just too sleepy tonight
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09:04
<burned1>
hi all!
09:07
can someone help me to set the correct language for my ltsp client?
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15:10
<fzabala>
Hi, people, anyone here?
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<fzabala>
anyways, I'm trying to implement something using LTSP and I'm having some issues, I wanted to know if this is expected behavior and I'm just being stupid or I'm doing something wrong, and I'm, well, stupid
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<fzabala>
I have a server set up to serve Fat Client Images, and whenever I boot from one of said clients, all works well ( I mean, the Image boots, and I can login and all ) But I can't get the client to recognize the local hdd
15:14
and the network configuration shown is the one from the server
15:16
What I'd like to know it's if there's a way to get the client to mount the local HDD and to get it to display it's own NIC information.
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<||cw>
if you pull up a local text console and do lspci does it match what's in a gui terminal?
15:19
if not, you're not booted fat client
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<fzabala>
let me check
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( sorry, I was in the middle of rebooting the server with all the virtual machines )
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15:47
<fzabala>
sorry for the question, but by "local text console" you mean getting to "ctrl alt f1", for example?
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<||cw>
yes
15:48
<fzabala>
well, I'm not being able to login, weirdly enough
15:48
I know the credentials, for both the server and the client, and none of them are working
15:51
the hostname displayed (when it says "<hostname> login:") does not match either of them, too
15:52
<alkisg>
fzabala: if you login to the fat client, and open a terminal, does it say "user@server" or "user@ltsp123" ?
15:52
I.e. check the hostname there
15:56
<fzabala>
user@server
15:56
<alkisg>
So it logs in as a thin client
15:56
<fzabala>
I see
15:56
<alkisg>
Did you follow some tutorial to set up the fat image?
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<fzabala>
That's kind of weird since I recall setting up some flags so it would boot as a fat client
15:57
yup, do you want the link?
15:57
<alkisg>
Yes
15:58
<fzabala>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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<alkisg>
What's the output of this command, on your server (or on the thin client)? ls /opt/ltsp/*/usr/share/xsessions/
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<fzabala>
I don't have an xsessions folder on the server
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<alkisg>
Then you didn't manage to properly install a fat chroot
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I.e. you don't have a desktop environment installed in it
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<fzabala>
btw, sorry, probably should have said it earlier, the server is a debian 7.1 machine
16:02
<alkisg>
Then the ubuntultsp page probably won't help much :)
16:03
You need to install a desktop environment in the chroot
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<fzabala>
oh, I see
16:04
since it was already installed on the server I thought it would transfer to the chroot much like the other settings
16:04
<alkisg>
No packages from the server "migrate" to the chroot unless you're using ltsp-pnp
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!ltsp-pnp
16:04
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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<fzabala>
oh, ok
16:06
well, I have a lot of reading to do, apparently
16:06
Thanks a lot
16:06
just to round up, then
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<alkisg>
np, feel free to ask again
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<fzabala>
when setup properly, I should be able to see the client's NIC values, and mount the client's hard drive?
16:07
<alkisg>
Errr well, you can do those now too if you want
16:07
"See the client's NIC values" => if you mean "see the client IP", try this from the thin client terminal: echo $LTSP_CLIENT
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<fzabala>
I mean, from the fat client
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<alkisg>
"Mount the client's hard drive" => LTSP_DENY_INTERNAL_DRIVES=False or something similar, in lts.conf
16:08
In other words, don't select thin or fats based on what you just said, NIC/HD
16:09
Select them based on what you want to run client-side, based on how good your clients are, etc
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<fzabala>
sure. the clients are capable of running the full os on their own, so fat client should not be a problem. Whe're just trying to get a better way to mantain a more regulated environment and a better way to propagate updates to the main image
16:12
well, I'll get to work, thanks again!
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<alkisg>
Cool, yeah go for fat clients
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<bernie_>
Hello
19:13
I am so very close.
19:14
I have set up ltsp on a debian virtual matchine
19:14
I can boot a client from the PXE port and the client gets an IP address on a subnet ip range.
19:14
Great
19:15
then tftp doesn't start
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where do I configure tftp?
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root@debian:/home/bernie# ps aux|grep tftp root 3336 0.0 0.0 14856 152 ? Ss 20:07 0:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --listen --user tftp --address 192.168.2.1 --secure /srv/tftp root 3860 0.0 0.0 7832 872 pts/1 S+ 20:15 0:00 grep tftp
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here is the grep info
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<fzabala>
Bernie, the data is on ls /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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