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Channel log from 7 February 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<alkisg>
I've tested playing back video simultaneously to a dozen clients and it works fine on gigabit networks. I've used gstreamer to (a) read the input video only once, and (b) decode it only once. Without it, a dual core server can only decode a DVD video 4 times in real time => it can support only 4 clients. With this method, it could support e.g. 50 clients, so the only real limit is the network bandwidth.
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Does anyone care to help in making a totem plugin for it in python?
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<pembo13>
is dhpcd not required for ltsp-vmclient?
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<Ryan52>
it is.
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<Ryan52>
well, a dhcpd is required.
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all that ltsp-vmclient does is runs a virtual thin client, just like any other thin client on your network.
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(tho it attaches to the bridge by default, iirc)
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00:32* Ryan52 wonders if I'm helping or just making it worse..
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<Ryan52>
pembo13: ^^
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<pembo13>
Ryan52: thanks for the nick reference, was KVMed ot another machine..reading
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Ryan52: so i'm guessing i still need to configure the bridge+dhcp in order to get the client working?
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<Ryan52>
yep.
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<pembo13>
or do I need just dhcpd?
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<Ryan52>
the vmclient attaches to the bridge.
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so you don't need to have the bridge attached to any real network devices.
00:35
but you still need a bridge there, and dhcpd listening on it.
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<pembo13>
Ryan52: and the bridge will see dhcpd without me attachign ethX ?
00:35
ok cool
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Ryan52: the wiki wasn't very clear on that
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<Ryan52>
which page explains this?
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<pembo13>
well actually, it specifically said one could use the vmclient pre network setup
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Ryan52: https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide
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nick me if anything
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<Ryan52>
ok.
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<pembo13>
is there a sample dhcpd.conf for ltsp?
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i used the sample that comes with dhcpd, made some mods
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started dhcpd
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but the vmclient won't take an ip
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if i tail /var/log/messages, i can see the DHCPDISCOVERS, and DHCPOFFERS
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but the booting client doesn't accept it
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<Ryan52>
hm. how did you install it?
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and what os are you on?
00:52* Ryan52 assumes fedora, but which version?
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<Ryan52>
ltsp installs it's own dhcpd service.
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"service ltsp-dhcpd start"
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and it'll go from there.
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no need to set anything up.
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<pembo13>
Ryan52: i have a fairly fresh install of Fedora 10 on my test machine
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i installed via the ltsp-server ltsp-vmclient packages as descrived
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ahh
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ok
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will trty that
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Ryan52: that solved that problem
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<Ryan52>
yay! :)
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<pembo13>
i must have missed something
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i don't have elf.ltsp
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ugh
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i i need internet to do that
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stupid wifi card not accepting auth
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<pembo13>
i attempting to to ltsp-vmclient, and it's surpisngly slow
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nope, i'm getting a buch of segfaults, in mcookie, and pulseaudio
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<blakey>
hi everyone, I've got the ltsp server up and running and can boot clients etc, but, I'm wondering - is there any way of mounting the hard disk in the thin client?
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I've looked in the manual and had a good look around the net but can't find anything about it
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<blakey>
brb
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<davidj>
cliebow: ping
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<cdshan>
Hello! I have installed ubuntu 8.04 LTS server on my machine. I have installed ltps and have configured dhcp. The client boots into to the login screen but gives me an error message saying that .xsessions file is not present and window manager is not found. What should I do?
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<cdshan>
Hello! I have installed ubuntu 8.04 LTS server on my machine. I have installed ltps and have configured dhcp. The client boots into to the login screen but gives me an error message saying that .xsessions file is not present and window manager is not found. What should I do?
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ogra: any inputs on my question?
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The following is the exact script of the .xsessions-error file:
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Xsession: X session started for shan at Fri Feb 6 19:16:34 IST 2009
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Xsession: unable to start X session --- no "/home/shan/.xsession" file, no
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"/home/shan/.Xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no
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terminal emulators found; aborting.
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ogra: could you please throw some light on what I should be doing?
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I have tried all documentations I could hit upon in Google but could not resolve the situation!
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<jammcq>
cdshan: the problem is, you haven't installed any desktops
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LTS server edition doesn't contain any desktops
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<jammcq>
so there's no Gnome there
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I think if you 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop', you might end up with all the pieces you need
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<cdshan>
Ok, I thought installing ltsp-server would do that too.
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<jammcq>
no, cuz there's no requirement that you run the desktop on the same server as the boot server
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<cdshan>
ok, I got you point.
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thanks for the pointer jammcq
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<jammcq>
it'd be nice if it was clearly documented that you need a desktop
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<cdshan>
very true
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I didn't find any mention of it in any documentation on the web
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not even on the mailing list, or forums, wiki, etc
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I had been using ltsp for almost 10 years now and you have always been there to help me whenever I have had issues.
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<jammcq>
yeah, it comes up every once in a while. It's not the kind of thing that lends itself to google tho.
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<cdshan>
You are rocking!
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<jammcq>
cdshan: hey, glad to help
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<cdshan>
by the way do i have to do a chroot apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
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<jammcq>
no
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it goes on the server
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not in the chroot
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<cdshan>
ok
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I will try installing the desktop and get back if I have any issues
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thanks for all the help
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bye
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jammcq:After installing the ubuntu-desktop do I have to do any ltsp-update or any other command?
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<vagrantc>
shouldn't have to
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<jammcq>
I don't think so
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should be fine after installing that
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<cdshan>
ok guys, thanks and I will be back if there are any other issues I am not able to work around.
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<vagrantc>
i've been meaning to add some kind of desktop to ltsp-server-standalone depends/recommends in debian for quite some time now, but never really figured out what package to pull in on debian. gnome pulls in a lot of stuff i wouldn't want that's specific to standalone desktops...
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i wish there was a gnome-barebones sort of package.
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<cdshan>
We could atleast have some other light weight window manager like icewm installed by default
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gnome and kde could be left to the users to decide
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<vagrantc>
on the other hand, gnome is probably the best tested desktop for all of the LTSP features.
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<cdshan>
true!
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how come we still have the issue of applications running much after the user has logged out? I guess we have to use the gnome watchdog to get rid of such apps!
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<vagrantc>
maybe gnome-session | x-session-manager | x-window-manager, x-terminal-emulator | xterm
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<cdshan>
We have been having this problem, we run java applications and we have a script run every day just ensure that all old apps are killed
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otherwise over a period of time this occupies a huge amount of system resources
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jammcq: why is it that there is not much direct installation package and support for centos
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as is provided for ubuntu or fedora
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<vagrantc>
cdshan: because nobody from centos has done the work
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<cdshan>
I thought so
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too bad
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<vagrantc>
because LTSP5 is integrated into the host distro, it requires people who understand the host distro to make the changes to the distro itself.
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though warren's work on fedora should make it's way to centos eventually, if i understand it right.
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<cdshan>
ok, hope that happens, I would prefer to work with cento rather than fedora
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<vagrantc>
if only by way of RHEL
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<cdshan>
Whlie installing ubuntu-desktop I got these error messages:
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Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main libedataserver1.2-9 2.22.3-0ubuntu2
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404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
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Get:72 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main libnss3-1d 3.12.0.3-0ubuntu0.8.04.4 [1016kB]
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Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main libcamel1.2-11 2.22.3-0ubuntu2
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404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
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Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main libebook1.2-9 2.22.3-0ubuntu2
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404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
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but the remaning packages are getting downloaded
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would these be downloaded again before installation?
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begins?
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<cdshan>
vagrantc: any comment on the 404 error?
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<jammcq>
try: apt-get update
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before doing the 'apt-get install'
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that'll update the package list to the most current
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<cdshan>
ok, should I stop the install process and try it?
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<vagrantc>
cdshan: if it's still downloading, that would be a good time to stop
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it won't have to re-download stuff it already has
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but if it started actually installed packages ... then that can be a bad time to stop it
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probably not disasterous, but best to avoid if possible.
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<cdshan>
ok, I will try it, it is only downloading now, so i can do it now.
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that worked, those packages are getting downloaded now.
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