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Channel log from 11 February 2009   (all times are UTC)

00:00
<johnny>
we drink beer so rarely at my house
00:00
<Ryan52>
0.o
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<johnny>
oh... Ryan52 can't drink a beer :(
00:01
<ltsppbot>
"cyberorg" pasted "reworked nomad patch" (95 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/244
00:01
<johnny>
cyberorg, i hope you are compiling each of those
00:01
<cyberorg>
vagrantc_, fixed the braces, and a white space
00:01
<johnny>
before posting em
00:02
<vagrantc_>
cyberorg: broke the curl brace in a different way :)
00:02
<cyberorg>
johnny, with earlier patches, i've released packages before sending in :)
00:03
<johnny>
cyberorg, test it!
00:03
vagrantc_, !
00:03
thanks again for last summer !
00:04
i've met some interesting people lately because of that
00:04
i learned more from the folks at the amtrakunlimited forums
00:05* vagrantc_ is hankerin to host another hackfest
00:06
<johnny>
vagrantc_, btw.. they are restoring the connection from the cs to the eb .. the bustitution is gone :)
00:07
<ltsppbot>
"vagrantc" pasted "nomad patch, hopefully just right" (99 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/245
00:07
<johnny>
before.. you had to take an 11 hour bus ride from klamath falls to pasco
00:07
<vagrantc_>
johnny: cs eb ?
00:07
<johnny>
empire builder
00:07
<vagrantc_>
ah.
00:08
coast starlight?
00:08
<johnny>
yes
00:08
the on time performance has significantly improved
00:09
<vagrantc_>
cyberorg: so i think my last paste should do it, presuming it actually works.
00:09
<cyberorg>
vagrantc_, testing it
00:10
<johnny>
vagrantc_, too bad oscon will be in cali this year :(
00:10
a bit more difficult to arrange transportation for others
00:12
<vagrantc_>
johnny: actually, almost nobody was here for oscon
00:12
<johnny>
i thought ogra was
00:12
<vagrantc_>
i don't think so
00:12
was going to be, but i don't think it turned out to be the case
00:12
<johnny>
ah
00:12
<vagrantc_>
actually, i think it would have been a conflict or something
00:14
dberkholz was here for oscon, and japerry, i think
00:14
<japerry>
I was there, sorta :-P
00:14
<johnny>
but dberkholz lived in oregon already.. so no big deal..
00:14
<japerry>
but yah very disappointing that its in ca this year
00:15
<Ryan52>
I thought dberkholz lived in portland..
00:15
<johnny>
in comparison to the rest of us
00:15
no, he lives in corvallis
00:15
<Ryan52>
oh. close enough :P
00:15
<johnny>
yeah
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00:18
<dberkholz>
osbridge and linuxcon will be in portland
00:18
vagrantc_: ogra was here too
00:18
vagrantc_: and warren
00:19
<johnny>
can somebody tell me why portland is such a hotbed for such things?
00:19
<cyberorg>
johnny, i'll give you a hint, vagrantc_ ;)
00:19
<dberkholz>
some oss devs live there, they attract more, eventually it turns into a hub
00:19
plus we all like good microbrews
00:20
<johnny>
baltimore.. not really known for OSS
00:20
<dberkholz>
too close to boston
00:20
<johnny>
new york is closer
00:20
and that is known :)
00:20
<dberkholz>
meh
00:20
boston is redhat, novell, lots of smart college students with free time
00:20
<johnny>
not much from the gulf area either :)
00:21
closest is redhat hq
00:21
and the research triangle
00:21
dberkholz, i'm just here enjoying a full moon.. not as fancy as your microbrews :)
00:22
not bad tho
00:22
i'm not a beer sn0b in any case tho
00:23
<beachsurfin>
thanks vagrantc_ and stgraber
00:24* vagrantc_ heads home
00:24
<vagrantc_>
night all
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00:31
<cyberorg>
vagrantc_, if you wait for two minutes i can tell if the patch worked
00:32* cyberorg booting a client
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02:13
<w0lter>
Did any try to install ltsp5 on Gentoo?
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02:21
<_Shane>
w0lter: Yes.
02:33
<w0lter>
did you emerge ltsp-9999 from ltsp overylay?
02:34
<_Shane>
Yes, along with ldminfod-9999.
02:38
<w0lter>
I found a overlay named ltsp from layman -L , is that what have installed with?
02:39
<_Shane>
Yes thats the one.
02:39
* ltsp [Git ] (git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/ltsp.git
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02:41
<w0lter>
Thanks, I got it. the infomation from bugs.gentoo.org confuse me, probably they are the same thing
02:44
<_Shane>
They are the same thing. "layman -s ltsp" will sync your local overlay with the git repository mentioned in the bug.
02:45
<w0lter>
yes, I see. that's fine. thank you, I will try
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03:55
<polytan>
hi
03:55
how to change the ldm screen picture during the login ?
03:55
can we use a function like "random splash in gdm" ?
03:55
<Ryan52>
no, that's not supported.
03:56
you can change the picture, tho.
03:56
<polytan>
how ?
03:56
<Ryan52>
one sec.
03:56
<polytan>
:)
03:56
I'm on ubuntu
03:56
<Ryan52>
in lts.conf add LDM_THEME=polytan
03:57
<polytan>
and the theme must be on the client chroot or on the server ?
03:57
<Ryan52>
one sec.
03:57
cp -a /opt/ltsp/i386/$(readlink /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/alternatives/ldm-theme) /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/polytan/
03:58
^^ run that
03:58
and then explore /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/polytan/
03:58
:D
03:59
polytan, got it?
04:01
<polytan>
I trying the option ;)
04:03* Ryan52 waits for polytan to say "it worked" so Ryan52 can go to sleep :)
04:04
<polytan>
it freezes the thin client
04:05
do I have to rebuild the image ?
04:05
<laga>
yes
04:06
<polytan>
and it boots without the option :)
04:06
ok
04:06
<Ryan52>
ah, right, sorry.
04:06* Ryan52 forgets these Ubuntu specific things :p
04:07
<Ryan52>
ok, imma go to sleep now, g'night.
04:08
<polytan>
good night
04:08
thanks for your help Ryan52 and laga
04:16
it freezes very well actually :)
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06:21
<cyberorg>
ogra, do you use compcache by default for ltsp?
06:22
<ogra>
cyberorg, with detection, yes
06:22
if RAM < 48M
06:22
<cyberorg>
ah, where can i find your intrd script doing that?
06:22
<ogra>
in the initramfs-tools source
06:24
<cyberorg>
ogra, does it make a difference worth having it?
06:24
<ogra>
only for the small ram devices
06:24
also note that there are bugs with 2.6.28
06:25
you need at least compcache 0.5 with that version
06:25
<cyberorg>
ogra, even 128 is quite small on opensuse :(
06:25
<ogra>
128 should be fine for X localdevices, printing and sound
06:25
<cyberorg>
256 rocks
06:26
yes it boots but is quite slow with 128
06:31
ogra, is there any advantage in mounting compcache swap from initrd apart from it being available early?
06:31
<ogra>
well, that *is* the advantage :)
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06:32
<ogra>
unpacking kernel and initramfs in 32M is quite tight already ... in ubuntu we start daemons inside the initramfs (i.e. udevd), in 32M this would fail
06:33
<cyberorg>
wont comcache take away part of ram permanently
06:33
<ogra>
with compcache you bump that space to about 48M
06:33
it gives you a permanent compressed swapspace in ram
06:34
so it takes a piece of real ram away but through the compression it adds more than it takes
06:35
<cyberorg>
ok, would like to give it a try, we dont have compcache in distro, but tiwai is building them on the build service
06:36
he is still on 0.4
06:37
ogra, thanks, will let you know how it goes :)
06:37
<ogra>
great
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07:02
<Blinny>
I chrooted to update the image - issues 'mount -t proc proc /proc' then did my aptitude update & full-upgrade to get a new kernel
07:02
Now I can't unmount proc
07:02
I get 'device is busy'
07:03
<alkisg>
Blinny: ubuntu? just run an ltsp-update-image, it'll unmount it
07:03
<Blinny>
Yes, but it's not unmounting
07:04
I get tons of errors on ltsp-build-image --arch i386
07:04
<alkisg>
Huh? which of the two are you trying to do, build or update?
07:05
<Blinny>
ugh
07:05
update
07:05
<alkisg>
then don't use build-image :P :D
07:05
<Blinny>
Too damn early (;
07:05
I'm not. Typo :P
07:05
And update-image is not showing the regular screen.. just tons of scrolling
07:06
<alkisg>
Erm... what? I have absolutely no idea about this...
07:07
pastebin the output, maybe?
07:07
<Blinny>
http://peopleplaces.org/Screenshot.png
07:08
The output of -update-image is in top-left
07:08
<alkisg>
I think unmount is done from outside the chroot
07:08
*think* :)
07:09
<Blinny>
I've never donw that
07:10
<alkisg>
Thats how ltsp-update-image does it... just log out from the chroot and run ltsp-update-image
07:10
<Blinny>
Seems like we're not communicating here
07:10
THAT's what the screenshot is
07:10
<alkisg>
Yeah, but you're still logged on the chroot, right?
07:11
So it may not be able to unmount it
07:11
(the proc)
07:11
<Blinny>
No I am NOT
07:11
On the screenshot you can see that too
07:11
<alkisg>
Ah, ok then :)
07:11
<Blinny>
either way it won't unmount
07:12
<alkisg>
I thought root@.... was you on the chroot... :D
07:12
OK, sorry, no idea
07:12
<Blinny>
Fun
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<redspike>
Is there anyway to get a logout script to work in ltsp? add the script to .bash_logout dosent work :/
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09:42
<SDuensin>
Hello all.
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10:36
<cliebow>
Gadi1:any reason i cant split on a dot in perl?
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10:37
<Gadi>
ah, better
10:37
cliebow: split(/\./)
10:37
<laga>
cliebow: did you escape it?
10:37
<cliebow>
i tried once ..will try again
10:39
that worked fine..should work using quotesa s well right?
10:39
<Gadi>
perl -e 'print join(" ", split(/\./, "hello.cliebow")) . "\n"'
10:40
<cliebow>
8~)
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<staffencasa>
I've been trying to get some help with this for a few days now. My firefox window won't startup fullscreen even with the -fullscreen argument. I'm using ltsp with the --kiosk plugin. One thing that did help slightly is adding the dbus-x11 package and now my window shows up in the middle of the screen. I can push F11 and firefox goes fullscreen, but not until I do so. Any suggestions?
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11:54
<johnny>
staffencasa, the amount of people who use kiosk is small.. try posting to ltsp-discuss
11:54
<staffencasa>
k, I'll try there. Thanks
11:56
no one's in there
11:57
<johnny>
staffencasa, it's a list
11:57
not a room
11:57
<staffencasa>
oh, heh
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<brendan`>
hey all...i have an issue regarding using "mount --bind" to mount a shared directory for all my users. when i add to my fstab "/home/shares/office /media/office auto defaults,bind 0 0" on my personal machine, it mounts and adds the drive to "places". but on my ltsp server, when i attempt the same thing, my users do not see the drive in the "places" menu. any ideas?
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14:02
<brendan`>
anyone?
14:02
anything?
14:02
<Gadi>
brendan`: do admin users see it?
14:03
<brendan`>
nope
14:03
<Gadi>
might be a permissions thing
14:03
<brendan`>
any ideas on how to debug that?
14:04
i've been searching for a few hours now
14:04
<Gadi>
well, you are in luck: you have a working control
14:04
compare perms between your personal machine and your office machine
14:05
also, see if it makes a difference if you log into the server console
14:05
<brendan`>
yeah, i've been trying that
14:05
i was wondering if it's a groups issue
14:05
but, my personal machine and the thin clients all auth off ldap
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<flyingsquirrel32>
How do I modify my dhcp.conf to make my LTSP install work with a single nic?
14:11
<epsas>
flyingsquirrel32 - dhcpd will automagically used an aliased interface if it uses a network within the range specified in dhcpd.conf
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<epsas>
iirc
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<flyingsquirrel32>
epsas: Great, so it should pretty much work out of the box?
14:15
<epsas>
iirc, yeah
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<flyingsquirrel32>
epsas: ah, but I don't see any ranges defined in my dhcpd.conf
14:21
I'll do that.
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<redspike>
anyone know any nice way to get users $HOME to be restored when thay login or logout? i have setup a perfect skell for all my ts users ant whant all users to be reseted to that conf when thay login
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<Lns>
redspike: a "nice" easy way would be to create a simple shell script upon login/logout to revert their home dir to what's in /etc/skel
14:31
that way, if you make changes to /etc/skel, it will be updated upon next login
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<redspike>
Lns: how to get a script to run when the users logout ?
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14:36
<Lns>
redspike: not sure - i'm finding things re: GDM for logout scripts, but since we use LDM... haven't done anything like this before. Maybe someone else can say (johnny, didn't you do something like this?)
14:37
<johnny>
sure.. i just wipe it at night tho
14:38
probably with wiping during login/logout.. would be if the user was working on something
14:38
and then power was cut, or network cable pulled
14:38
or machine was power cycled.. or a crash of any kind
14:38
<redspike>
ahh, my users dosent logout :( i need to run the script when thay logout or maybe when the client is restarted, is there any lts.conf setting to run a script when the client boot?
14:38
<johnny>
and then the user loses all work
14:38
redspike, no.. it would happen on the server.. so not lts.conf settable
14:39
this isn't ltsp related at all..
14:39
it's just as if they were logging on on the machine itself
14:39
<redspike>
mm
14:39
<Lns>
except we're not using GDM
14:39
<johnny>
redspike, your users might lose all work if you do this..
14:39
if anything bad happens
14:39
i wouldn't suggest it
14:40
<redspike>
johnny: thay have a share to save to
14:40
<johnny>
sure.. but what happens if it doesn't get saved
14:40
many software can recover the files
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14:40
<johnny>
like open office
14:40
<Lns>
johnny: I can see the use case for insecure networks (libraries, default un/pws, etc. you don't want data hanging around in those types of situations)
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<redspike>
johnny: then the suer have lern a lesseon :)
14:41
<Lns>
redspike: what kind of environment are you running?
14:41
<johnny>
redspike, learn a lesson if the power fails? or software crashes?
14:41
<Lns>
i.e. what types of users?
14:41
<johnny>
or somebody accidentally disconnects the network cable?
14:42
<redspike>
johnny: thay not working local thay use the system for running a as/400 client. and some firefox.
14:42
Lns: ^
14:43
<Lns>
redspike: and you don't need *anyone* to have saved FF settings?
14:43
bookmarks, history...?
14:45
<redspike>
no thay shuld only have the bookmars that are in the skell setup
14:47
<ogra>
!weather CGN
14:47
<ltspbot>
ogra: Error: "weather" is not a valid command.
14:47
<ogra>
bah
14:47
wasnt that valid once ?
14:48
<Lns>
!makemeasandwich
14:48
<ltspbot>
Lns: Error: "makemeasandwich" is not a valid command.
14:48
<Lns>
=p
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<Lns>
ogra: is /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d a dir you can put in things to run upon user login?
14:49
<ogra>
yes
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<Lns>
redspike: ^^^
14:49
ogra: ty
14:49
<redspike>
lns :)
14:50
ahh thanx
14:50
<Lns>
np!
14:50
<redspike>
i whant the same gnome settings for all ts users.
14:50
maybe a rsync script will work fine. that sync only the gnome config files.
14:51
<ogra>
well, users can simply override them
14:51
<Lns>
redspike: would be better to use default/mandatory gconf settings
14:51
<ogra>
right
14:51
<redspike>
Lns: ?
14:51* Lns <3 gconf
14:51
<ogra>
sudo gconf-editor
14:51
<redspike>
ogra: but it will only be for that user?
14:52
<ogra>
make your changes and for every change you make right click on the entry and select mandatory and select default
14:52
<Lns>
redspike: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GnomeOptimize
14:52
<ogra>
not if you run it as sudo
14:52
<Lns>
I can't believe how much i reference that wiki =p
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<ogra>
beyond that you can also dump configs in /usr/share/gconf/defaults
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read the gnome administrators guide, its installed by default
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it tells you about all that
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<redspike>
going to take a look, thanx
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but the ldm rc.d dir will run "scripts" on server side?
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i have removed the upper panel and maket the lower to look and feel like windows. can ill do this in gconf-editor for all user to?
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<Lns>
redspike: i'm sure you can, you just need to find the necessary gconf keys and make them mandatory.
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probably under something like /apps/panel
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but like ogra said, you should read the gnome admin manual (gconf section) to get a really good understanding of it
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it's very powerful
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<brendan`>
anyone know why using mount --bind doesn't show the drive in the places menu in ltsp?
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<brendan`>
is it because of a permissions/group thing? or is it more likely the way ltsp handles mounted drives? when i mount an smb share it automatically shows in the places. but when i mount --bind a directory, it does not
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<johnny>
probably mounted drives
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i think it is a gnome thing
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not ltsp
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<brendan`>
it works on my personal workstation though
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just not on my thin clients
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<johnny>
hmm..
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<brendan`>
yeah
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it's got me baffled
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the only way to make my users shared drives show up in places is to mount them through smb
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and i want to stop doing that
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but have the drives in places so my users don't start banging on my door asking where their shared folders went
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<Gadi>
brendan`: you could just edit their ~/.gtk-bookmarks
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:)
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<Lns>
Gadi: oooo, is there any good doc on that?
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<Gadi>
Lns: its just a list of locations (in Gnome URL syntax), like:
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file:///home/romm/Downloads
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<brendan`>
i want it to appear on their desktop too
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my users are real particular
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:\
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i think im resorting to mounting them as nfs
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they show up that way
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<Gadi>
brendan`: are both your home and office computer the same distro version?
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<brendan`>
yeah
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everything is ubuntu 8.10
16:03* Gadi thinks it is a gvfs thing
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<brendan`>
and i just discovered that on the thin clients, mounting as NFS works they way i want it to
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so mounting SMB and NFS work, but mount --bind doesn't
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<Lns>
Gadi: where do these bookmarks get displayed? Places, Nautilus bookmarks, ?
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<Gadi>
yeah
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Lns: places
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and nautilus bookmarks
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<Lns>
brendan`: my school techs like things on the desktop too, you're not alone
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for some reason they say the students will get more confused if asked to click on a menu
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<brendan`>
so i guess for now i'll do NFS mounts which seems silly since it's actually a local drive
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<Gadi>
brendan`: I think it is because there is no gnome URL for bind mounting
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not sure why it worked at home for you tho
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<johnny>
Gadi, yeah.. that's what i was getting at
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<brendan`>
yeah, it's not even at home, it's at work, same network...just my machine is a thick client
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same network, same ldap users/groups, same os
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the only variable is ltsp
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<Gadi>
only other thing I can think of is a policy-kit issue
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so much is layered these days
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:)
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<brendan`>
i know :(
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<Lns>
can anyone tell me the *easiest* way to get a full LTSP client MAC list?
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<Gadi>
arp -an
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<Lns>
mmm...thanks Gadi =)
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<Gadi>
:)
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<Lns>
you rock!
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<Gadi>
well, actually that wont be "full"
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<brendan`>
yeah
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it will have extras too
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<Gadi>
only the ones currently in the arp table
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<brendan`>
if your ltsp server runs any other services
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<Lns>
Gadi: currently booted clients though, right?
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<brendan`>
yes
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<Gadi>
hmm... not necessarily all of them, tho
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<brendan`>
?
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<Gadi>
to make sure you get all of them, ping them
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and thn check the arp table
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<Lns>
lns@springcreekubuntu:~$ arp -an|wc -l
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37
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there are just about that many clients in the lab :)
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<brendan`>
gadi: i was wondering if it's a policykit/hal/dbus issue as i have had significant issues with this server in those regards in the past
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i wonder if it's time to finally scrap this server and do a fresh install with 64-bit since it's a 64 bit cpu
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<Gadi>
brendan`: ck-list-sessions
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usually, there is different behavior in some apps when is-local is false
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<brendan`>
hmmmm
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hmmmmmmmmmm
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that actually does change things...
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because the behaviour im seeing also happens in freenx sessions
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<Lns>
yikes..looks like wakeonlan will execute as fast as possible if given a list of MACs to wake..that could have bad power-related outcomes (blowing a circuit with too many machines powering on at once)
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i'll have to write a wrapper script with a sleep in there or something
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<staffencasa>
okay, I've resolved my problems with full screen, but could somebody help me troubleshoot this error? "Setting up LTSP client: Disconnecting: que, disconnect, sock, done
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<vagrantc>
wow. i haven't even started testing the two things i said i would today...
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<Lns>
vagrantc: i feel your pain
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though today was the day i actually did complete one thing i'd been setting out to do for about 2 weeks straight
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<javiercito53>
hi, i just have a small question...
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i'm trying to configure 2 servers, and for this i have to set up a ldap server, so i did it on the primary server.
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i'm using this documentation: http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#id2537610 but i don't understand if i must do this configurations on the secondary server, or on the /opt/ltsp/i386 of the 2 servers, can anyone please tell me...
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<Ryan52>
javiercito53, leave /opt/ltsp/i386 alone.
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you just need to be able to ssh to both machines as an account that uses ldap.
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so really you can look at any ssh ldap tutorial. there's nothing ltsp specific involved.
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21:33* Ryan52 can't offer more help, as he doesn't understand ldap
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<javiercito53>
Ryan52: does this means that when i log in on the secondary server, it should loggin using the ldap service from the primary server?,
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<Ryan52>
yep.
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so the ssh server on the secondary server should be talking to the ldap server on the primary server.
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<javiercito53>
Ryan52: thaks man,
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<Ryan52>
vagrantc: that's gonna break something, isn't it?
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oh, ltsp, I thought it said ldm.
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:P
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<vagrantc>
what would it break in either case?
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<Ryan52>
dev ldm-trunk $ ./autogen.sh
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[...]
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Makefile.am: required file `./ChangeLog' not found
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if I remove it.
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<vagrantc>
what's more frustrating is my build environment is borked. two days ago i built ltsp 5.1.60-1~ and tested it and everything was working ... but now that i actually am ready to build and upload it, debuild is borked.
23:53
or maybe it's cowbuilder ...