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Channel log from 25 July 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<gate_keeper_>
hi guys,
06:27
why when i boot my client after dchp request ..
06:27
i get message TFTP Open timeout
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with tcpdump i get IP 192.168.1.250.2076 > karev.local.tftp: 43 RRQ "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0" octet blksize 1456
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<Blinny>
Happy SysAdmin day everyone.
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<ace_suares>
Hi Blinny
07:42
Happy Syasdmin day :-)
07:42
!seen ogra
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<ltspbot>
ace_suares: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 11 hours, 51 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <ogra> i have a ton of ubuntu ones always with me .... but i keep my OSCON one on me
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<ace_suares>
!seen jammcq
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<ltspbot>
ace_suares: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 15 hours, 5 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <jammcq> and they have it at this place
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<ace_suares>
http://www.suares.an/index.php?page_id=25&news_id=220#news-top
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<Blinny>
Parallel mksquashfs: Using 8 processors
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<laga>
show-off ;)
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<Blinny>
heh
08:36
Can I install ntfs-3g in my thin client image to enable NTFS RW?
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<cyberorg>
Blinny, it is installed in opensuse ltsp
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<Blinny>
heh
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I'll take that as a "Yes" (;
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<Blinny>
BRB, rebooting new image.
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<gate_keeper_>
still the same problem with TFTP
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PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout
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<warren>
sweet.
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stat seems to work with sshfs if the server is running openssh-5.1
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<warren>
ogra: you already got a ride from the hotel?
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<ogra>
warren, i ot up 5 min ago
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<ogra>
warren, heh, thats what i call syncronization .... while i typed eric knocked
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<ogra>
i need 1h to wake up and shower, then i'll head over, the night went rather a bit long
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<warren>
Donnie just woke up
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<ogra>
<cjwatson> ogra: openssh 5.1p1 in intrepid now, enjoy
12:28* ogra dances
12:29* ogra calls this the day of perfect timings :)
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<warren>
ogra: stat seems to work at least at the command line
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ogra: I haven't tested any actual apps
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<ogra>
ouch .... dancing ... not so good today
12:30
warren, are you still at erics place or at freegeek already
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?
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<warren>
ogra: eric's
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<ogra>
ah
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donnie is there ?
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<warren>
yes
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<ogra>
any trace of sbalneav and jammcq ?
12:34* ogra hopes they use their hangover kit (if they still got one when they arrived)
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<ogra>
they switched to whisky at some point ... not their usual stuff
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<vagrantc>
ogra, warren: when can we expect y'all? :)
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<jammcq>
hey guys
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<vagrantc>
gang's nearly all here
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<vagrantc>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/HackFest2008
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<ogra>
vagrantc, stop that texan accent ! :)
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<vagrantc>
ogra: heh.
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!bestdistro
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: Error: "bestdistro" is not a valid command.
13:19* ogra just got up 1h ago and needed to answer some urgent mails, i'll ping eric soon
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<vagrantc>
!bestltspdistro
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "bestltspdistro" is whatever you prefer
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<ogra>
vagrantc, <cjwatson> ogra: openssh 5.1p1 in intrepid now, enjoy
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<warren>
jammcq: http://k12linux.fedorahosted.org
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jammcq: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=188611&hide_resolved=1
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-ltsp-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
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<dberkholz>
jammcq: https://bugs.gentoo.org/ for the tracker, https://bugs.gentoo.org/177580 is about the best there is for a main page
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<dberkholz>
i suppose https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=ltsp&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED would work to show all ltsp bugs
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<japerry>
jammcq, http://devzilla.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/ for the OpenSUSE kiwi-ltsp bug page
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<ogra>
jammcq, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ldm for ubuntu
13:35* ogra calls eric
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<warren>
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436913 cdpinger segfaulting
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<vagrantc>
ogra: +source/ltspfs ?
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<ogra>
oh, thanks
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indeed
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=471793 ldm and pam logout
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jammcq: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=490897 doesn't work with tcsh (heh.)
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jammcq: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=482553 password change doesn't work (partially addressed, but still an issue)
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<cyberorg>
our only pending bug is: http://devzilla.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/show_bug.cgi?id=14 (nbdrootd processes remain active after clients are disconct)
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<vagrantc>
cyberorg: have you tried adding to /etc/hosts.allow:
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nbdrootd: ALL: keepalive
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nbdswapd: ALL: keepalive
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<cyberorg>
vagrantc, we dont have that, would that make nbdrootd disappear after disconnect?
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<vagrantc>
cyberorg: not immediately, but after a 1-2 hour timeout, at least.
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<cyberorg>
i was thinking of adding nbd-server -a <about 24 h> in nbdrood
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-a|--idle-time maximum idle seconds; server terminates
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<vagrantc>
cyberorg: http://bugs.debian.org/409531
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cyberorg: i didn't have good luck with that
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<cyberorg>
japerry, X -configure does not support multiple screens
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how does multi head work with ltsp/ldm?
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<japerry>
cyberorg, we tried it at OSCON but it failed to do both screens
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<cyberorg>
japerry, you probably need xorg.conf and disable xorg auto configuration
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<japerry>
cyberorg, I wonder what that will do for every different client? luckily the only dual screen was a projector and not a big deal
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<japerry>
the other issue we're having is you used to be able to have different TTYs have rdesktop, X, shell, etc
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<japerry>
you can't have SCREEN_01 = screen; SCREEN_07 = LDM -- causes LDM to not boot
13:59
not sure if this is opensuse specific or LTSP5 in general
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<vagrantc>
johnny2: you around?
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<cyberorg>
lejo, try what vagrantc said ^^ for nbdrootd not going away
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<vagrantc>
cyberorg: you run it from inetd ?
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<cyberorg>
japerry, keymap config is copied over from the server, so whatever keyboard settings you have there would come to client
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vagrantc, xinetd
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<vagrantc>
cyberorg: ok, we use openbsd-inetd ... so not sure it will work the same.
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<japerry>
cyberorg, okay -- checking. testing the us keymap settings first
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<cyberorg>
vagrantc, -a works here, even if nbd dies client session keeps running fine, problem happen only on logout
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<johnny>
sorry, my transport wasn't setting the proper presence packet, so i couldn't talk (altho i could view)
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i'm still at the house, trying to take care of some work i couldn't do last night due to being stuck at the lucky lab
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sadly the wifi was not so good :(
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i'm trying to head down there in the next hour
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<dberkholz>
good deal
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we'll probably be getting lunch before long
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<johnny>
where?
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<dberkholz>
dunno
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<johnny>
PM me your #? in case i arrive at that time window?
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<jammcq>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDistroSupport
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review plz
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<dberkholz>
johnny: it's at http://dberkholz.wordpress.com/about/
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jammcq: bugtracker link isn't right for gentoo
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<cyberorg>
jammcq, en.opensuse.org/LTSP is the website
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*http://
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<eharrison>
jammcq: what time is the diner reservation?
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<jammcq>
eharrison: 7pm
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: dinner info on the hackfest2008 page? good idea?
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<dberkholz>
jammcq: thx for fixing the bugtracker link! i was just about to do it if you hadn't had a chance
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<cyberorg>
my project this ltsphack week is the create ltsp5 USB stick
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hackfest*
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<vagrantc>
cyberorg: talk to gadi about that
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<cyberorg>
vagrantc, i am working on it since last couple of hours, i am just inches away :)
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<vagrantc>
cyberorg: gadi's got something like that too
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<cyberorg>
i get it booting, ltsp inti script runs too, but networking fails :(
14:28
where is Gadi ?
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<vagrantc>
cyberorg: he's here at the hackfest
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<jammcq>
Gadi's at the whiteboard right now
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<warren>
ogra: libpamtmpdir?
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<cyberorg>
ah, ok, will keep you all posted
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<ogra>
warren, hmm, no, i'm apparently wrong
14:29
Description: automatic per-user temporary directories
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i dont see it packaged :(
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<vagrantc>
libpam-tmpdir ?
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<warren>
so debian/ubuntu doesn't have it packaged?
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<japerry>
neither does OpenSUSE
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<vagrantc>
warren: what are you asking about?
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<ogra>
aha libpam-pwdfile
14:31
that looks more like it
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Description: PAM module allowing authentication via an /etc/passwd-like file
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<warren>
vagrantc: what package contains it in debian
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<vagrantc>
warren: contains what?
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<warren>
pam_extrafiles
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<vagrantc>
libnss-extrausers ?
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Description: nss module to have an additional passwd, shadow and group file
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<warren>
vagrantc: libnss is pam related?
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<vagrantc>
warren: exactly how it works is rather blurry to me
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<cyberorg>
woot!! got ldm up from usb stick :) now to copy parts that fetch config files from the server
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<vagrantc>
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libnss-extrausers
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<cyberorg>
japerry, you may be able to demonstrate live ltsp5 usb at the hackfest :)
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<japerry>
hehe
14:47
that'd be cool, I just need to get a usb key
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cyberorg, sorta sad, I still have never bought a usb key =P
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<cyberorg>
here is it about $10 for a 2G stick
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<sbalneav>
Everyone get on up
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AND DANCE
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:D\-<
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:D|-<
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:D/-<
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<laga>
still drunk? ;)
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<cyberorg>
sbalneav, seems very happy :)
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<sbalneav>
Nah, stone cold sober, unfortunately. :)
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<Q-FUNK>
!s
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<ltspbot>
Q-FUNK: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
So, after lunch, LDM code review/rewrite.
15:03
Hey hey
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<japerry>
cyberorg, new image booted perfectly
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<cyberorg>
japerry, cool :)
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<ogra>
Gadi, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/cmpc/cmpc-gen1-installer and the classmate-initramfs package in hardy
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<roberto__>
howto include onboard network sis190 in ltsp5?
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<cyberorg>
vagrantc, japerry i now have fully functional usb stick, i could log in from a client !!!
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<gbolte>
I am what are you talking about :P
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<gbolte>
what did I miss
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<cyberorg>
gbolte, just running kiwi-ltsp-setup -u gets you live ltsp5 usb
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<gbolte>
nice
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<cyberorg>
committed the work in branches/kiwi-ltsp-usb, if you have a stick around you can give it a try
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<gbolte>
guess that fixes the "need to have pxe"
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<cyberorg>
yeah, pxe not required, over the wan connection could be possible?
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<gbolte>
cyberorg, will it work with devices other than usb sticks?
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like cdrom or god forbid floppy?
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er actually floppy is too small
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but maybe cdrom?
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<cyberorg>
gbolte, now we would be easily be able to deploy it anywhere, cdrom, hdd, xen, vmware, everywhere kiwi supports
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no floppy
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<gbolte>
hah nice
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<cyberorg>
embedded ltsp clients!!
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well the hackfest was quite fruitful for me :)
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<gbolte>
sounds like it
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<cyberorg>
you guys go buy usb stick and show off at the hackfest
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<cyberorg>
captain_maGNUs, a lot of cleaning work for you to do, i have made a mess of scripts
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ogra, got usb stick working :)
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<gbolte>
:)
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<gbolte>
japerry, so I just plugged in esmaels pc and its acting fine now
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lol
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<japerry>
gbolte, hmm
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but it was broken at his desk eh?
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<gbolte>
yeah
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yeah
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but now its fine
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blah
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<japerry>
lol what happens when the password expires when you log in?
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<japerry>
gbolte, ^^^
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<gbolte>
hu?
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<dberkholz>
anyone know where i could find a list of which files ltspfs installs on a client vs a server?
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<japerry>
if a user has an expired password, does it prompt now, or does it lock up the system?
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<gbolte>
I think its still gonna break the system
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<japerry>
like it locks up?
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<gbolte>
prolly
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thats what it used to do
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so unless it got fixed
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yes
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:D
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<ltsppbot>
"ogra" pasted "old setup ltspfsd (thin client) install targets for dberkholz" (10 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/39
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<japerry>
gbolte, LDM now supports SSH messages
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<ltsppbot>
"ogra" pasted "old setup ltspfs (server) install targets for dberkholz" (7 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/40
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<gbolte>
oh ok
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cool
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brb
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<japerry>
kk
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<dberkholz>
thx ogra
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<Ryan52>
vagrantc: how do I get the debian packaging stuff? I lost all of my LTSP checkouts...
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vagrantc: not how, but where's the bzr branch...thought it was http://bzr.debian.org/pkg-ltsp/ldm/ldm-debian-packaging/ , but that didn't work...
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<vagrantc>
Ryan52: https://code.launchpad.net/~vagrantc
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oh, that could work too
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Ryan52: that URL looks right to me ...
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Ryan52: might just be intermittant network issues
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<Ryan52>
lp must likes me better than alioth :)
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I'm checking it out on my home system...
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<johnny>
it'd be nice if obsolete branches were shown as such
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<Ryan52>
vagrantc: is there any reason why you don't have the controlgen script being ran in the postinst...I should be able to just checkout and run debuild.
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
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<vagrantc>
Ryan52: postinst ?
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<Ryan52>
err, rules :)
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<vagrantc>
Ryan52: can't do that, as it will mess with autobuilders
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<Ryan52>
vagrantc: can you explain?
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<vagrantc>
Ryan52: can't have anything in debian/rules that runs automatically that could potentialyl change debian/control
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as it'll mess the buildd's up
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<Ryan52>
It wouldn't even help at all because dpkg-buildpackage read control before debian/rules...nevermind!
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vagrantc: why don't you run autogen.sh in rules?
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<vagrantc>
Ryan52: similar basic reasons
18:41* Ryan52 wonders what they are.
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<dberkholz>
warren: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libnss-extrausers
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<Gadi>
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ltsp-localapps
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<dberkholz>
http://dev.inversepath.com/openssh-lpk/ has patches for ssh auth via ldap, fwiw
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<rjune>
Gadi: ?
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<Gadi>
rjune: hey
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<rjune>
what are you donig around?
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<Gadi>
heh - Shabbat starts later on the left coast ;)
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<jammcq>
Gadi: what time does it start?
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<Gadi>
a very good question
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:)
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I waas gonna keep an eye on the sun
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lemme look it up...
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<jammcq>
kinda hard, when it's behind you
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<rjune>
Gadi: you're gone at 1700 every day, shabbat or not
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<Gadi>
oooh: 8:29 PM
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thats even later than back home
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rjune: Im in Portland
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<rjune>
Jews on the west coast are more laid back.
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I assumed you went home to spend time with your family as opposed to anything religious
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<Gadi>
heh - no family on the left coast
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:)
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<rjune>
you don't have a family on both coasts?
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<vagrantc>
ogra: https://code.launchpad.net/~vagrantc/ltsp/ldm-debian-packaging
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<Ryan52>
vagrantc: deb http://rsn.no-ip.org:4000/dev/ unstable/
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vagrantc: in sources.list
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