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Channel log from 19 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<slipttees>
:(
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jammcq, ping
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arrgg :@
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dawnnnnit**
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<knight>
so you restarted
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and nothing happen
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<slipttees>
notting
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nothing*
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:"(
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<knight>
damn
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did you build the ltsp from scracth
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<slipttees>
???
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rene@debian:~$ netstat -apn | grep ":177 "
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(Nem todos os processos puderam ser identificados, informações sobre processos
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de outrem não serão mostrados, você deve ser root para vê-los todos.)
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udp6 0 0 :::177 :::* -
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rene@debian:~$
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:(
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rene@debian:~$ sudo netstat -apn | grep ":177 "
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udp6 0 0 :::177 :::* 7362/kdm
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rene@debian:~$
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<knight>
well my friend
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you seem to know more of the problem than I do
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<slipttees>
:(
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<knight>
sudo ltspadmin
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take a look at the running services
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and if you can configure the xdmcp from the option
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<slipttees>
xdmcp Yes Yes Yes gdm, kdm Using: kdm
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<knight>
I believe you are able to set some options for XDMCP
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<slipttees>
where?
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believe that the XDMCP is being blocked for one firewall
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package = iptables
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<knight>
or is portmapper working properly
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<slipttees>
* Stopping portmap daemon... [ ok ]
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* Starting portmap daemon... [ ok ]
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this?
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<knight>
ok
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cool
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try it now
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<slipttees>
nothing :'(
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<knight>
ok
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so its the iptable setting
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<slipttees>
where?
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<slipttees>
:(
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jammcq, ping
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sh*t ! :'(
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<knight>
lol
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<knight>
try checking if the port is opne
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<slipttees>
knight, where?
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<knight>
f the Display manager is definitely running, and it is listening for requests from remote workstations,
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it may be a simple problem that the display manager is unable to map the IP address to a hostname.
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The workstation either needs to be listed in the /etc/hosts file, or it needs to be correctly setup in
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the DNS tables.
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so if the port is being listened to
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that means that it is just not mapped ipaddress
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<slipttees>
i dont understand! :(
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<knight>
you are able to turn on the thin client right
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it just stops when loading the X display
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try this command
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netstat −ap | grep xdmcp
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tell me what you get
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<slipttees>
noyhing
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nothing*
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:(
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<knight>
you dont get a result
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that means that Xdmcp is not being listen to
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<slipttees>
nop
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<knight>
ok
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<slipttees>
http://klomdark.servebeer.com:8081/MessageBase2/ReadMessage.aspx?MsgNum=1967
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<knight>
now if only I was able to take a look at the conf file
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<mathesis>
hi
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i have not xdmcp , i have entrance
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<slipttees>
ya
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<mathesis>
i want config entrance for login start
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slipttees: speak spanish?
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<knight>
hablo espanol
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que paso
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<slipttees>
portuques bazil
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:D
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<knight>
I speak spanish
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anything you want to say
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<slipttees>
eu falo brasileiro
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<knight>
je parle francais
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<slipttees>
;)
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<knight>
:)
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<slipttees>
yo parlo italiano!
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:D
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<knight>
jejejeje
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<slipttees>
ehehe
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<knight>
cornuto
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<slipttees>
:S
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<knight>
na i dont know what I said
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lol
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<slipttees>
shit xdmcp mutha##&@ker
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<knight>
jajaja
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ok
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/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess is the older version of X
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<slipttees>
:)
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XDM rox
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<knight>
did you try to set it up on the lts.conf file
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<slipttees>
にします。これは意味を理解してからや
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?
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<knight>
In the lts.conf file, you can have an entry which specifies the IP address of the server that is
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running the display manager.
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<slipttees>
ops
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:D
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<knight>
XDM_SERVER = 192.168.0.254
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<slipttees>
look look
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http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/tutoriel/comment_creer_un_terminal_x_ou_recycler_une_vieille_machine
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:D
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<knight>
you found it
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lol
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<slipttees>
:)
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<knight>
there is your answer
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(...)
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[Xdmcp]
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Enable=true
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Willing=/etc/kde3/kdm/Xwilling
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Xaccess=/etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess
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do you understand it
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????
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<slipttees>
Ensuite éditez le fichier /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess
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kdesu kate /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess
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Ajoutez-y simplement l'adresse ip ou le hostname du client
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192.168.1.3
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:D
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<knight>
well does it work
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<slipttees>
moment
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i wont restart
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<slipttees>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :@
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<mathesis>
knight: conoces el gestor grafico de sesiones entrance
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puede funcionar entrnace con ltsp?
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<knight>
Gestor grafico de sesiones entrance
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que distribucion usas
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<slipttees>
knight, :S
00:56* slipttees kill myself bah! bah! bah!
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<knight>
sliptteess
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he has an issue with something and he feels confortable talking about it in spanish
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<slipttees>
ta
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ya
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jammcq, ??
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<knight>
mathesis tienes algun website de referencia a ese tema
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<slipttees>
knight,
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http://www.starnet.com/KB/connection/new_host.asp
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<knight>
cool
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but again
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If only I was able to take a look at your files
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taht would help alot
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now
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are you using ssh
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????
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<slipttees>
i do known
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why?
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<knight>
did you install ltsp from the tar file
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<mathesis>
enlightenment usa entrance como gestor de sesiones
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<knight>
or just apt-get
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<slipttees>
apt-get
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remove ssh?
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<knight>
no
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did you install ltsp from spt -get
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<slipttees>
woops
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<knight>
from apt-get
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<slipttees>
i am no using ssh
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no installed
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<knight>
ok
01:06
did you install Ltsp server from the apt-get commanf
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command
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<slipttees>
yes
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<knight>
well there you go
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<slipttees>
a using ltspadmin for install
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<knight>
ok
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<mathesis>
Starting DHCP server: dhcpd3 failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics
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knight: conoces ese error del dhcp3 server
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<slipttees>
mathesis, check dhcpp.conf
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mathesis, check dhcpd.conf
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<mathesis>
ready
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<knight>
chequea el dhcpd.conf
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<mathesis>
ya esta listo gracias
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<knight>
dhcp server no se ha iniciado
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ok
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bueno ya lo haces bien ???//
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now slipttees
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<slipttees>
woops
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<knight>
did you use his command
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udo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone
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to install the ltsp servre
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<slipttees>
nope
01:13* slipttees using lts.p4.2
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<mathesis>
/opt/ltsp 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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<slipttees>
/opt/ltsp/i386 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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<mathesis>
knight: la ip de la nic por donde escucha dhcp es 192.168.0.1
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es correcta la linea que paste es de /etc/exports
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<knight>
ok
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<mathesis>
?
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<knight>
oh ok
01:16
bien
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<mathesis>
/opt/ltsp/i386?
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<knight>
nop
01:16
no esta bien
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tiene que tener el IP de 192.168.0.1
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por que de ahi vas a recibir los directorios
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<slipttees>
knight, ??
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<knight>
ahi es que trabaja NFS
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yes
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i see you are using ltsp 4.2
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and that means you did not use ssh
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to connect the thin clients
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<mathesis>
ok
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<knight>
to the server
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<slipttees>
kdm run only ssh?
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<knight>
which still means that you might need to go to lts.conf
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no
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what happens is that the builtin version of ltsp
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on ubuntu
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runs the sessions with ssh
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for more security
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and if that was the case then
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you just might have to update your ssh jeys
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keys
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but that is not the case
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Or I believe its not
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and I might be wrong
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<slipttees>
aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrhhhhhh :@
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<knight>
I just have a year working with UBUNTU
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<slipttees>
jammcq, ping
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<knight>
I guess Jammcq is taking a nap
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sliptteess what is the error message againa
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<slipttees>
yes
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:@
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aarrrhrahhrharhrharar :@:@:@:@
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ssshhhhhhhhhhh******TTTTTTT :@
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<sep>
slipttees, dont panic
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<slipttees>
:(
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<sep>
i dont even understand your error with that language,
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<slipttees>
XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling
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<sep>
try export LANG=C
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<slipttees>
?
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<mathesis>
i have a kernel panic in the clients
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<slipttees>
mathesis, check nfs-kernel
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sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
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or
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sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
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:)
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<sep>
slipttees, if you set LANG i belive the error messages would be english
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<slipttees>
=/
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<knight>
mathesis
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lo tuyo es un error en nfs-kernel
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<mathesis>
si
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<knight>
si reinicia el servicio
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<mathesis>
pero como soluciono
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ya lo reinicie
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<knight>
ahora mi pregunta es
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pusiste el ip address que te dije en etc/exports
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<mathesis>
si
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<knight>
ok
01:34
sabes que
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<slipttees>
knight, news?
01:34
<knight>
reinicia la computadora
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<mathesis>
ok
01:34
voy y regreso ok
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<knight>
ok
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<knight>
slipttees
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I have nothing yet
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<slipttees>
i:(
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<knight>
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2005-07/msg00038.html
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take a look
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<mathesis>
knight: ya reinicie el ordenador ahora?
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<knight>
ok
01:37
bueno intenta de iniciar el thin client
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una pregunta mathesis
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de que nacionalidad eres
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<mathesis>
mexicana
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llevo cerca de un mes con este error knight
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<knight>
wow
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<mathesis>
con edubuntu lo solucione
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<knight>
bueno como esta el etc/host
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<mathesis>
pero no es muy de mi agrado
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<knight>
ahora
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si lo se
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y sabes que
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yo tambien tenia ese problema
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<knight>
y era por que conectaba el ordenador al internet
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<mathesis>
espera te paso el error completo
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<knight>
y luego no necesitaba el internet y ahi fue que el se comenzzo a poner asi
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si de nfs-kernel server
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edubuntu aparte de ser completa
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es un poco lento en la red
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debido al sh
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ssh
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<mathesis>
ya paso el error
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ya te lo paso
01:43
eso quise decir
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http://pastebin.ca/363190
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knight:
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<mathesis>
knight: como puedo solucionar ese error
01:45
si no fuera por edubuntu no comiera y aun no es de mi agrado es muy lento para arrancar los clientes
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tengo un cyber con edubuntu
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recuerdo que una vez instale bien ltsp4.2 sin problemas de estos
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<slipttees>
:(
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<mathesis>
y era rapidismo el arranque con kdm
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<knight>
sip
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por que no usa ssh
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<mathesis>
y el kde iba bien rapido y ese server tenia menos memoria y cpu que el que tengo ahora con edubuntu
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ltsp5 es mas lento lo he notado
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knight: de ke pais ere?
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<knight>
Dominicano
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<mathesis>
tienes la solucion a mi problema :)?
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<slipttees>
:'(
01:48
<mathesis>
o tengo que seguir ubunteando
01:48
knight: que distro usas?
01:49
<knight>
Ubuntu para mis instalaciones
01:49
lo he hecho en dos lugares
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con 8 y 7 thin clients
01:50* slipttees apt-get remove --purge kdm && apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop
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<slipttees>
:@
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<mathesis>
knight: tiene solucion este problema?
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<knight>
sip
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<mathesis>
http://pastebin.ca/363199
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mira ahi esta mi /etc/hosts
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<knight>
ok deja ver
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<slipttees>
mathesis,
01:53
http://pastebin.ca/363202
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;)
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<mathesis>
only 6 thin clients?
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<knight>
eso esta bien
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<mathesis>
knight: que esta bien?
01:56
<knight>
lo de /etc/host
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<mathesis>
no muevo nada ahi esta correcto
01:57
knight: que servidor tftp usas'
01:57
<knight>
atftp
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ese uso
01:57* slipttees usas atftpd
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<knight>
yeah
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ese
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<mathesis>
me too
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<slipttees>
or tftpd-hpa
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;)
01:58
<mathesis>
i have install and run atftpd
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tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --tftpd-timeout 300 --retry-timeout 5 --mcast-port 1758 --mcast-addr 239.239.239.0-255 --mcast-ttl 1 --maxthread 100 --verbose=5 /tftpboot
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<slipttees>
knight, any idea about problem?
02:00
tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /tftpboot
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;)
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<mathesis>
knight:esa linea esta bien en /etc/inetd.conf
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knight: estas?
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<knight>
sip
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no hay problema ahi
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<mathesis>
knight: entonces como solucionaste el problema tu?
02:06
<knight>
cambiando el ip address
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<slipttees>
mathesis, wahat your problem?
02:06
<knight>
en el etc/exports
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<slipttees>
what*
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<mathesis>
http://pastebin.ca/363190
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<slipttees>
mathesis,
02:08
http://pastebin.ca/363219
02:09
192.168.0.101 => IP tux01 => host name .tux.org.br =>dominio (check dhcp.conf) tux01 =>hosts name
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;)
02:10
estas certo?
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eheh =]
02:11
mathesis, http://pastebin.ca/363223 check this too
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;)
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PS: check this line! option root-path "192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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02:12
192.168.0.1 ip for ltsp
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<mathesis>
my hostname is:CompuEvolucion is the name
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<slipttees>
que?
02:13
mathesis,
02:13
http://pastebin.ca/363225
02:14
mathesis,
02:14
http://pastebin.ca/363226
02:17
http://pastebin.ca/363228
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;)
02:18
mathesis,
02:18
http://pastebin.ca/363230
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:D
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<mathesis>
wait i goin reboot
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<slipttees>
:)
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<mathesis>
slipttees: nothing
02:28* slipttees only kde (kdm) muth@r**fuch@r doesn't work XDMCP in the thinclient :(
02:28
<mathesis>
i have the error
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<slipttees>
qual?
02:30
<mathesis>
slipttees: not i have /etc/init.d/inetd
02:30
knight: usas debian?
02:30
<knight>
sip
02:30
ubutnu
02:30* slipttees usas kubuntu
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<mathesis>
por que no tengo el archivo /etc/init.d/inetd?
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<slipttees>
mathesis,
02:31
sudo apt-get install netkit-inetd
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:)
02:31
done, ltsp work ! :)
02:32* slipttees install gdm for controler xdmcp!
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<slipttees>
mathesis, deu cierto :)
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:P
02:35
<mathesis>
its the name package inetutils-inetd
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<slipttees>
não
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isso
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open terminal
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sudo apt-get install netkit-inetd
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cierto ;)
02:37
<mathesis>
i have other porblem
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<slipttees>
qual?
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<mathesis>
the thin client stop in Me:192.168.0.98, DHCP:192.168.0.1 TFTP: 192.168.0,1 Gateway:192.168.0.254
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<slipttees>
:D
02:39
opa
02:39
ei man
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replace this line
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tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /tftpboot
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/etc/inetd.conf
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:)
02:40
host tux01 {
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hardware ethernet 00:08:C7:2A:BF:C6;
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fixed-address 192.168.0.101;
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filename "/tftpboot/lts/vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1";
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}
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<mathesis>
Loading 192.168.0.1:/tftpboot/lts/vmlinux-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 \
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<slipttees>
mathesis,
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192.168.0,1 Gateway:192.168.0.254
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look
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tein ,
02:41
tien , e no .
02:41
:)
02:41
<mathesis>
the thin client stop in Me:192.168.0.98, DHCP:192.168.0.1 TFTP: 192.168.0.1 Gateway:192.168.0.254
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<slipttees>
check your host and dhcp
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<slipttees>
check too nfs-kernel-server it's work
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<mathesis>
wait
02:43
i going reboot
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<slipttees>
nop
02:43
man
02:43
restart only services
02:43
:)
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<slipttees>
:S
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<mathesis>
Feb 19 08:43:26 localhost in.tftpd[3042]: connect from ::ffff:192.168.0.198 (::ffff:192.168.0.198)
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slipttees: my /var/log/syslog
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<santosh>
Unable to open /etc/exports: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ltspcfg line 3271, <STDIN> line 3.
02:48
how can I solve this
02:49
<slipttees>
humm
02:49
open /etc/exports
02:49
<mathesis>
ok
02:49
now?
02:49
<slipttees>
copy e paste
02:49
;)
02:49
only line /opt...
02:49
<santosh>
there is no file in tbhis location
02:50
<slipttees>
:S
02:50
<sep>
santosh, so the error message is pretty clear, you have to create this file. :)
02:50
<santosh>
oh
02:50
let me try
02:51
it should be at /etc/
02:51
<MrDarkUser>
I'm playing with edubuntu 6.10 ltsp A few of our terminals have widescreen displays, and I'm looking at the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xorg.conf .. and it matches the /etc/X11 one... that seems wierd
02:51
<slipttees>
santosh,
02:51
open ltspcfg
02:52
<mathesis>
slipttees: you wan try to ssh in my server ltsp?
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<santosh>
hey from where should i copy that exports file
02:52
<MrDarkUser>
and, of course the widescreen (16x10) monitors don't work, I'm reading the docs but I don't see how to do it yet
02:52
(get the widescreens to detect correctly)
02:53
<slipttees>
mathesis, identify your nick
02:53
/nickserv identify password
02:53
<mathesis>
ok
02:56
<santosh>
hey i got it thanks for ur hrlp
02:56
<mathesis>
slipttees: you have a query check
02:56
<slipttees>
Ok
02:56
<santosh>
inetd: no process killed
02:56
...
02:56
The signal has been sent to start tftpd, but it doesn't appear
02:56
to be running.
02:57
how to enable tftpd
02:57
<slipttees>
santosh,
02:57
<santosh>
it is showing as installed but not enabled
02:57
so how to enable it
02:57
<MrDarkUser>
depends on distro santosh
02:57
/etc/init.d/tftpd start
02:57
<slipttees>
sudo apt-get install atftpd netkit-inetd dhcp3-server nfs-kernel-server
02:57
<santosh>
ohh okkk
02:57
<MrDarkUser>
or similar
02:57
<santosh>
thanks
02:58
<MrDarkUser>
redhat stuff... service tftpd start
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<slipttees>
mathesis, ??
03:35
<mathesis>
jai
03:35
need the mac of thin client
03:36
00:59:BF17:8F:5D
03:36
only add oe thon client fot test
03:37
add one thin client for test
03:37
mac 00:59:BF17:8F:5D
03:37
<slipttees>
fisrt?
03:41
<mathesis>
yes
03:42
only one clinet for test
03:43
now single a client adds to test, when she works we added but agreement clients
03:43
now single a client adds to test, when works we added but agreement clients
03:44
connect new
03:44
excuseme
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<mathesis>
sorry
03:49
the mac is
03:49
mac 00:50:BF:8F:5D
03:52
<slipttees>
bah!
03:54
<mathesis>
stop in Me:192.168.0.2, DHCP: 192.168.0.1,TFTP: 192.168.0.1, Gateway 192.168.0.254
03:54
<slipttees>
pvt
03:54
PM
03:55
<mathesis>
Loading 192.168.0.1:/tftpboot/lts/vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
03:56
<slipttees>
mathesis, only PM Ok
03:56
nfs doesn't work
03:57
<mathesis>
¿?
03:59
<slipttees>
bah!
04:00
<mathesis>
star client?
04:21
<slipttees>
yes
04:22
crash nfs-kernel
04:22
:S
04:22
install ubuntu 6.06.1
04:22
;)
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06:03
<CapRiCoRN^80>
hi jammcq
06:03
u there
06:03
or any one who can help me in sound issues ?
06:18
anyone there ?
06:24
<freemindx>
hi...
06:24
i'm here...
06:24
<CapRiCoRN^80>
u know how sound setting works in thin client not server ?
06:25
i have done few steps are not sure after that
06:25
<freemindx>
wait a minute...
06:25
<CapRiCoRN^80>
ok
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<freemindx>
version 4.2???
06:26
<CapRiCoRN^80>
yes
06:28
SOUND_DAEMON = esd # or nasd
06:28
i have done this setting
06:28
SMODULE_01 = "sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1"
06:29
my sound card on thin station is of tridant
06:30
<freemindx>
SOUND = Y
06:30
set Y on lts.conf??
06:31
<CapRiCoRN^80>
yes
06:31
i did that too
06:33
<freemindx>
debian??
06:34
<CapRiCoRN^80>
k12ltsp
06:35
<freemindx>
chmod +666 /dev/dsp
06:35
chmod +666 /dev/mixer
06:35
you can try this...
06:36
and verify if user are on audio group...
06:37
<CapRiCoRN^80>
listen should i do any setting in [ws117] thats my thin client name
06:38
<freemindx>
and???
06:38
<CapRiCoRN^80>
freemindx and???
06:38
<freemindx>
sorry...
06:39
look this... another example
06:39
you can try on ws117
06:39
SOUND = Y
06:39
SOUND_DAEMON = nasd
06:39
VOLUME = 80
06:39
MIC_VOLUME = 80
06:39
CD_VOLUME = 75
06:39
SMODULE_01 = soundcore
06:40
SMODULE_02 = uart401
06:40
SMODULE_03 = sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1
06:40
<CapRiCoRN^80>
wat this SMODULE_01 MEANS ?
06:45
<freemindx>
on small search...
06:45
this is the module on kernel for sound hardware...
06:45
<CapRiCoRN^80>
coz i m thinking that i have tridant sound card
06:46
so will these settings work for my card ?
06:51
freemindx : u there ?
06:52
<freemindx>
hi...
06:53
sorry...
06:53
<CapRiCoRN^80>
i asked u some thing
06:53
coz i m thinking that i have tridant sound card
06:53
<freemindx>
tridant sound card, i'm never see this
06:53
<CapRiCoRN^80>
my sound card on thin station is of tridant
06:53
will these settings works for me ?
06:53
<freemindx>
yeah...
06:54
you can try this conf for ws117
06:54
<CapRiCoRN^80>
ok i did that all
06:54
<freemindx>
but better know the module for tridant soundcard
06:54
<CapRiCoRN^80>
<freemindx> and verify if user are on audio group... how do i check that ?
06:55
<freemindx>
on shell
06:55
groups user
06:56
<CapRiCoRN^80>
wat command should i use on shell ?
06:56
<freemindx>
groups user
06:56
like...
06:57
groups lucas
06:57
lucas : lucas dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev
06:57
<CapRiCoRN^80>
i dont have any command groups lucas
06:57
<freemindx>
understand???
06:58
<CapRiCoRN^80>
no
06:58
i didnt get u
06:58
<freemindx>
what linux distribution you use???
06:58
<CapRiCoRN^80>
i told u its fedora k12ltsp
06:59
<freemindx>
u write just k12ltsp
06:59
but its ok...
06:59
<CapRiCoRN^80>
sorry
06:59
<freemindx>
fedora :-(
07:00
thinking...
07:00
<CapRiCoRN^80>
anyways tell me the exact command to check the sound group user
07:01
<freemindx>
u can try this...
07:01
adduser user audio
07:02
<CapRiCoRN^80>
ok wat next
07:03
<freemindx>
just this...
07:03
reboot your client
07:03
<CapRiCoRN^80>
ok
07:03
then ?
07:03
<freemindx>
you are brazillian?
07:03
<CapRiCoRN^80>
no
07:04
<freemindx>
ok...
07:05
<CapRiCoRN^80>
n after rebooting . wat should i do to test that it is working or not ?
07:06
<freemindx>
login with user... and open some app with sound
07:06
or try to play some ogg
07:07
<CapRiCoRN^80>
ogg ?
07:07
<freemindx>
ogg or mp3
07:08
<CapRiCoRN^80>
ok
07:09
all thing is ok but i cannot do this step <freemindx> adduser user audio . as i dont have any group audio
07:09
<freemindx>
wait...
07:10
for this, i'm love debian
07:13
wait a minute... search how create a audio group on fedora
07:14
look this;...
07:14
http://wantlinux.com/archives/2005/09/19/handy-hints-fedora-core-4-audio/
07:15
<CapRiCoRN^80>
k
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<CapRiCoRN^80>
freemindx: its not good to edit /etc/group manually
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<freemindx>
yeah...
07:28
go do this...
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07:35
<freemindx>
caprocorn ???
07:36
<CapRiCoRN^80>
yea
07:36
i m testing it
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<freemindx>
ok...
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08:09
<Capricorn^800>
freemindx: i have open some wave file in helix . helix do play it but i cannot hear the sound
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<freemindx>
helix?
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09:22
<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:22
<sbalneav>
Morning!!!
09:22
How's everyone here?
09:22
<jammcq>
can't speak for everyone, but i'm doing pretty well
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09:23
<pscheie>
happy: got a new laptop over the weekend!
09:23
<jammcq>
and there's Gadi !!!!!
09:23
<sbalneav>
Hey gadi
09:23
<Gadi>
hi, guys
09:23
how iseveryone?
09:24
Happy Presidents Day
09:24
and Happy Adar
09:24
:)
09:24
<jammcq>
yeah, happy no-checks-gonna-show-up-in-the-mail-today day
09:24
<Gadi>
what did I miss?
09:24
heh
09:24
<jammcq>
Gadi: you been gone on vacation?
09:24
haven't seen you in a week or so
09:24
<Gadi>
no - just buried so far under work that I couldnt reach the keys
09:25
<jammcq>
heh
09:25
<Gadi>
business trips included
09:25
<jammcq>
busy busy
09:25
<Gadi>
wish it were vacation
09:25
:)
09:25
not that I could afford one
09:25
<jammcq>
if you enjoyed your job as much as I do, it WOULD be a vacation :)
09:25* Gadi rolls down the window and blows chunks
09:25
<jammcq>
heh
09:26
lol out loud
09:26
<Gadi>
so, have you fixed all of the world's probs while I was gone?
09:26* Gadi guesses no, as Hillary's still running for prez... har ahr
09:27
<jammcq>
hey, at this point, i'd even settle for kucinich
09:30
<pscheie>
Gadi: pencil in June 14-15 for NCLS in Minneapolis, if you're available
09:30
<ogra>
http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ldm_cairo_screenshot.png <-- new ldm rendering interface :)
09:30
<pscheie>
you, too, sbalneav
09:30
<Gadi>
pscheie: okey dokey
09:30
ogra: is it faster?
09:30
<sbalneav>
ok
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09:30
<ogra>
Gadi, slightly ...
09:30
<jammcq>
ogra: looks nice, but I can't log in
09:31
<Gadi>
yeah, wtf, ogra?
09:32
<pscheie>
you have to login via gimp
09:32
<cliebow>
jammcq:can you answer an mgetty ?.if mgetty line ins uncommented in inittab shouldnt mgetty appear with ps aux|grep get?
09:32
<jammcq>
umm
09:33
cliebow: you talking about on a thin client? or on a real linux box?
09:33
<cliebow>
real box
09:33
all the getty lines show
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09:35
<ogra>
jammcq, try harder ... you need to press the keys hard enough to make the letters appear :P
09:35
<jammcq>
cliebow: yeah, I think it should
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<blinky_ghost>
hi can anybod tell how can i use bootsplash on ltsp5?
09:37
<cliebow>
jammcq:i thought so...cant get it to start via inittab for some reason..
09:37
thanks
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<jammcq>
I gotta pack up and head to the office. I'll see ya'll in 20 minutes or so
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09:49
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hi
09:49
tftp is make it down ?
09:50
udp 0 0 *:tftp *:* 2778/xinetd
09:50
not response? :|
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok working now
09:56
:)
10:01
1 question
10:01
why the tftpd has set '-s' flag ?
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<jammcq>
hello
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hi jammcq
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10:45
<Oz_Diver_68>
Hello All
10:47
I have installed LTSP on ubuntu and it is working fine on the standard configuration.
10:47
I want to set up auto login (i.e. kiosk mode) with each terminal being logged in as a different used. Any ideas?
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10:55
<mathesis>
i need ERROR!
10:55
http://pastebin.ca/363190
11:00
<sbalneav>
mathesis: You haven't got NFS enabled on your box.
11:01
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS
11:02
<Oz_Diver_68>
Does anyone have any experience with auto login on the terminals?
11:04
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
sbalneav: have x gray screen and mouse
11:04
<pscheie>
Oz_Diver_68: I've set it up under gnome on fc5
11:04
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
and all here is ok http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen
11:05
<Oz_Diver_68>
pscheie: Hello, Do you have the same user autologin on each terminal or a different user per terminal?
11:06
<pscheie>
different ID for each terminal
11:06
<sbalneav>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: Well, obviously everything there ISNT ok, or you wouldnt have the grey screen :)
11:06
<Oz_Diver_68>
I'm using Ubuntu at the moment.
11:06
<pscheie>
autologin should be same since you're using gdm
11:06
see http://k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/A_more_complete_How-To_for_setting_up_autologin_of_clients_using_Gnome_%26_GDM
11:06
<Oz_Diver_68>
Stunning - exactly what I want to do! Where do I start to look?
11:06
<sbalneav>
So, lets get some info first. What distribution, and version of LTSP are you using?
11:06
<Oz_Diver_68>
Thanks
11:07
<pscheie>
you can ignore the first part about getting the patched gdm
11:07
that was a fc5 thing
11:07
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
sbalneav: 4.2 debian etch
11:08
<Oz_Diver_68>
OK - stunning - I'll go and give that a try. Greatly appreciate the help. Cheers
11:08
<pscheie>
you're welcome
11:08
<Oz_Diver_68>
I knew the docs were out there somewhere - just a matter of knowing where to look. Have a great day!
11:08
<sbalneav>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: What does netstat -anp | grep ":177 " give you?
11:09
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
udp 6700 0 0.0.0.0:177 0.0.0.0:* 2547/gdm
11:10
then?
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<sbalneav>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: ok, what's the IP address of the network interface that the terminals are listening on?
11:11
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
192.168.0.1
11:11
<sbalneav>
on the server.
11:11
ok, can you paste your lts.conf file to the pastebin?
11:11
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
is by default
11:11
http://pastebin.ca/363718
11:12
<sbalneav>
You got any firewall rules set up on this box?
11:13
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
no way
11:13
nothing
11:13
<sbalneav>
iptables -L
11:13
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
all ACCEPT
11:14
<sbalneav>
Please paste the output of iptables -L
11:14
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
11:14
http://pastebin.ca/363727
11:15
<sbalneav>
cd /etc/gdm
11:15
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
11:15
<sbalneav>
grep "DisallowTCP" *
11:15
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
is Enable=True
11:15
uhm
11:16
not show nothing
11:16
<sbalneav>
should be under the [security] section.
11:16
You'll probably want to enable that.
11:16
I think it's enabled by default.
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
well. i installed ltsp-4.2 1st
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
later
11:17
installed gdm
11:17
<knight>
hii all
11:17
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
and i type enable-true
11:17
security is in black by default when i inn 1st time
11:17
what have to type there then?
11:18
<sbalneav>
Here's the contents of my gdm.conf-custom
11:18
[daemon]
11:18
RemoteGreeter=/usr/lib/gdm/gdmgreeter
11:18
[security]
11:18
DisallowTCP=false
11:18
[xdmcp]
11:18
Enable=true
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok let me test
11:19
<sbalneav>
You'll need to restart gdm after changing the settings.
11:19
<mathesis>
showmount 192.168.0.2 -e
11:19
mount clntudp_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to receive
11:19
root@CompuEvolucion[/home/mathesis]#
11:19
<sbalneav>
mathesis: sounds like you don't have portmap running.
11:20
<knight>
mathesis
11:20
did you fix your problem
11:20
yeah portmapper needs to run \
11:20
in order for nfs to work
11:21
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
sbalneav: nothing
11:21
i add daemon and security either .. but nothing
11:21
yet
11:21
<sbalneav>
How did you restart gdm?
11:22
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
/etc/init.d/gdm st[art|op]
11:23
<sbalneav>
How are these boxes connected?
11:23
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
only 1
11:23
<sbalneav>
What kind of switch or hub do you have?
11:23
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
my laptop
11:23
UTP crossover
11:23
directly to heart! :)
11:23
<sbalneav>
Hmm, well it should work.
11:23
<knight>
I have a question about usb support
11:24
<sbalneav>
knight: Sure.
11:24
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i tell you.. all 'it's fine' but not work
11:24
<knight>
it works on edgy with no prblem
11:25
that means that if I was to setup a ltsp server I should use edgy
11:26
<sbalneav>
So, what's the question?
11:26
<mathesis>
sbalneav, hi knight
11:27
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
sbalneav: what i do then? tell me other web to check
11:28
<sbalneav>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: I'd check physical connections, and try a reboot on the server. Maybe something funky's going on.
11:28
But from what I can see, it looks fine.
11:28
<mathesis>
knight, sigue el problema
11:28
ya cumplo el mes sin poder hacer andar debian cpn ltsp4.2
11:28
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
11:29
<mathesis>
i haver run portmap and show mount clntudp_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to receive
11:29
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, hola
11:29
<knight>
ok
11:29
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mathesis: que vola sigues sin echar andar eso
11:29
<knight>
mathesis necesita el servicio de portmapper
11:29
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yo lo ehce pero me cambiaron el server
11:29
<knight>
que funcione
11:29
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ando de nuevo y ya me queda poder dar el login de gdm
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
que jodedera trae esta cosa
11:30
<mathesis>
knight, portmaper lo tengo corriendo pero como puedo saber esi esta bien su configuracion de portmaper
11:30
<knight>
ok dejame ver
11:30
dame un segundo
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11:34
<jholloway>
Hello.. I am wondering how to change keymappings with ltsp?
11:34
<cliebow>
Ahh haa..edgy uses upstart..no wonder inittab makes no difference!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:34
<jholloway>
there is no loadkeys, i was wondering if there is a spot in lts.conf for it?
11:35
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, en que distro lo haces?
11:36
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, por ahora lo tengo en edubuntu
11:37
pero quiero migrarlo a debian pero ahi es donde se compica esto
11:37
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
debian etch
11:39
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, podrias ayudarme hacer eso en debian etch
11:39
yo lo he hecho pero siempre termino con el mismo problema
11:39
<jholloway>
anyone?
11:41
<knight>
bueno
11:41
no he utilizado debian
11:41
pero se que no esta muy bien estable
11:42
segun el ltsp website
11:42
a no disculpa no es debian
11:42
perdon
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mathesis: estoy haciendo un paso a paso pa bobos a ver si no molesto mas aqui al menos con debian etch y 4.2 :)
11:44
cuando este te la paso por correo
11:44
solo necesito terminal pa tener la X
11:46
<mathesis>
ok
11:47
ja ja
11:47
de esos necesito yo
11:47
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, encontre en la lista hispalinux una solucion segun que son las tarjetas de red
11:48
pero mi cuestion es la siguiente por que en edubuntu todo funciona de maravilla con las mismas tarjetas ?
11:48
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ni nidea
11:48
no he visto
11:48
esa distro
11:48
<mathesis>
ahi me funciona el ltsp pero es lento
11:50
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
sbalneav: hey nothing yet .. :| ..
11:50
still going gray screen
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<mathesis>
puede fallar una tarheta de red pero todas no descarto problemas de tarjeta de red
11:57
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, instalo debian limpiamente y regreso ok
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
12:03
<CaPRiCorN^80>
hi sbalneav
12:03
did u check ur mail today ?
12:04
<sbalneav>
No
12:04
<CaPRiCorN^80>
i hope that dont contain any html text
12:04
<sbalneav>
What does hostname give on the terminal now?
12:06
<CaPRiCorN^80>
well it was like this before i edit it
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
192.168.0.117 ws117.ltsp ws117
12:06
n i edit like 192.168.0.117 ws1117
12:06
n i edit like 192.168.0.117 ws117
12:06
but still there is problem
12:07
<sbalneav>
ok, well, what does hostname report on the terminal.
12:07
step 4
12:07
<CaPRiCorN^80>
i insert one kingston usb n i didnt recognize that usb
12:07
ws117
12:08
<cliebow>
is it partitioned?
12:08
<CaPRiCorN^80>
well one more thing as i m using fedora k12ltsp n my box was saying that 192.168.0.117 ws117.ltsp ws117 is fine
12:08
n there is no error in that
12:09
<sbalneav>
n there?
12:09
<CaPRiCorN^80>
i was reading some site of k12ltsp and it was mentioned some like same over there i.e ws117.ltsp
12:10
<sbalneav> n there? ??
12:10
<sbalneav>
Do other fuse based programs work? For example, sshfs?
12:10
Yeah, what does "n there" mean?
12:10
<CaPRiCorN^80>
sorry my boss not box
12:11
i discussed that thing with him n he said that we are using k12ltsp fedora an /etc/hosts has the entry just like that
12:12
<sbalneav> http://www.k12ltsp.org/faq.html#debug-sound
12:12
check this
12:12
as this is related to sound but echo $DISPLAY is there and u can see the output of it
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
sbalneav: i'm fix gdm :D
12:14
YES!
12:14
huuuuuuhuuuuuu
12:14
<sbalneav>
CaPRiCorN^80: What's sound got to do with your usb problem?
12:14
So, what was the problem?
12:14
sh3mh4mf0r4sh:
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
u didnt get me
12:15
u said that there is problem in step 4 and step 10
12:16
<sbalneav>
Right, the host name that the TERMINAL thinks it has, has to match the DISPLAY variable exactly.
12:16
<CaPRiCorN^80>
n when i do echo $DISPLAY it show me ws117.ltsp right
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<sbalneav>
OK, then you need to fix that.
12:16
<CaPRiCorN^80>
n hostname show ws117
12:16
it means they both are not same
12:16
n i change entry in /etc/hosts
12:16
<sbalneav>
On way or the other, when you run "hostname" on the terminal, it has to return THE SAME NAME as what's in display.
12:17
If it doesn't, localdev won't work.
12:17
<CaPRiCorN^80>
but in the site i refer u . u can see that echo $DISPLAY SHOW ws008.ltsp:0
12:18
it means fedora k12ltsp show entries like that
12:18
<sbalneav>
Okay, I don't care about that site.
12:18
what I care about is what's ON your box.
12:18
If your hostname and your display don't match, then you need to fix that.
12:19
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok as i told i fix it . but still one of the usb was not recognized by it
12:19
<pscheie>
CaPRiCorN^80: when you run 'hostname' are you doing it from the client's command prompt?
12:20
not an xterm session within gnome/kde?
12:20
<CaPRiCorN^80>
yes i check it on screen 02 which is shell
12:20
not on gnome
12:20
<sbalneav>
ok, so it's just ONE of the usb sticks that doesn't work? Others do work?
12:21
<CaPRiCorN^80>
yea
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
but on shell screen it do recognize that usb but not on gnome
12:21
<pscheie>
CaPRiCorN^80: are all your clients the same hardware?
12:21
<CaPRiCorN^80>
yes
12:21
<pscheie>
I've got a usb stick in my pocket that doesn't always work
12:22
<CaPRiCorN^80>
old pI machines
12:22
<pscheie>
seems to vary with the usb hardware of the client
12:22
<sbalneav>
ok, so it's just this ONE stick that doesn't work?
12:22
<pscheie>
but other usb sticks work on those same clients
12:22
<sbalneav>
Is it an un-partitioned stick?
12:22
<CaPRiCorN^80>
yes
12:22
<sbalneav>
Then it wont work.
12:22
<pscheie>
he need Gadi's patch
12:23
<sbalneav>
no, don't put that in.
12:23
<pscheie>
I think it was Gadi
12:23
<sbalneav>
then all sticks get two desktop icons.
12:23
much easier to just partition the memory stick.
12:23
<pscheie>
oh, right, I remember that
12:23
<sbalneav>
CaPRiCorN^80: just partition the memory stick.
12:23
<CaPRiCorN^80>
<pscheie> he need Gadi's patch ....
12:24
<pscheie>
CaPRiCorN^80: no, ignore what I said
12:24
sbalneav is right, that way lies madness
12:24
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok sir
12:25
sbalneav: i will check one more time n let u know
12:25
now my sound thing
12:25
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
sbalneav: now need how to can i activate devices locally
12:25
<CaPRiCorN^80>
as i told u i want to configure sound on thin stations
12:25* pscheie wishes I could repartition this troublesome stick, to get rid of utils it installs whenever plugged into Windows
12:26
<CaPRiCorN^80>
meanwhile i ask u some thing
12:26
<sbalneav>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: Look on the wiki, it's there.
12:26
<CaPRiCorN^80>
is there any processing on mounting usb's on windows ?
12:27
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok.. just 1 think more.. i have a basic gdm and the roll of clients will be only navigate and save at flash or cd or floppy but the menus out more application..
12:27
have an idea to edit the menu with alacarte
12:27
but server run at text mode
12:28
<cliebow>
pscheie, :is that a kingston?
12:28
<CaPRiCorN^80>
sbalneav: is there any processing on mounting usb's on windows ?
12:28
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
HOW can i edit 1 x 1 links to rest apps to can cut of menu list?
12:28
<pscheie>
cliebow: verbatim, 1GB
12:28
I used to have a 128MB, non-Verbatim, worked everywhere
12:28
<cliebow>
haa! sam thing i have..paint in the pettout
12:28
s/t//
12:29
mine works fine in ubuntu..just a big fat pain
12:29
but always have to mount manually
12:29
<pscheie>
I've got another verbatim, 512MB that seems to generally work
12:30
<sbalneav>
CaPRiCorN^80: Don't get what you mean?
12:30
<pscheie>
doesn't install utility crap when plugged into Windows
12:30
<cliebow>
sbaneav:scottie!!!!..by the way
12:30
<pscheie>
Linux is impervious to that, of course, but as mentioned, not all thin client see it
12:30
<CaPRiCorN^80>
sbalneav: i mean can we mount our usb's on windows screen
12:31
<sbalneav>
Can you mount your USB's under rdesktop do you mean?
12:31
<CaPRiCorN^80>
yes
12:31
<sbalneav>
No.
12:31
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
12:31
i wish we can soon :P
12:31
so i was about to talk about sound .. in last chat u said to have pci sound card
12:31
<sbalneav>
Gadi may have done some work on it. I, personally, have no interest in rdesktop, so I won't be working on it.
12:32
<CaPRiCorN^80>
n i got one . i got Multimedia audio controller Trident Microsystems 4Dwave Dex(rev 02)
12:32
n linux recognize it by lspci
12:32
<pscheie>
sbalneav must be fortunate enough to work in a Windows-free environment
12:33
<CaPRiCorN^80>
i have set my sound = y and sound deamon = esd
12:33
i need some help after that
12:33
<sbalneav>
Fortunate has nothing to do with it. I actively FORCED a windows free environment :)
12:33
<pscheie>
treating it like second-hand smoke? ;-)
12:34
<sbalneav>
More like carbon-tet. :)
12:34
<CaPRiCorN^80>
sbalneav: wat should i do next to configure sound on thin stations not on server ?
12:35
<pscheie>
CaPRiCorN^80: when your client boot, do you see errors when the sound modules are loaded?
12:35
<CaPRiCorN^80>
pscheie: hmm not sure about that
12:36
<pscheie>
watch the client during boot, you'll see either good messages or bad messages when the sound modules load
12:36
<CaPRiCorN^80>
pscheie n sbalneav: http://pastebin.ca/363829 . i did this setting to run sound on thin stations
12:37
pscheie: can i check it using some other way ?
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
as i told u i got Multimedia audio controller Trident Microsystems 4Dwave Dex(rev 02)
12:38
are my settings are fine ?
12:39
<pscheie>
is this a PCI or ISA card?
12:39
<CaPRiCorN^80>
PCI
12:39
shell recogzie it
12:40
<pscheie>
do you mean it appears in /tmp/info/SOUND?
12:40
<CaPRiCorN^80>
i didnt check that
12:40
i did lspci
12:40
<pscheie>
what about lsmod?
12:40
<CaPRiCorN^80>
before that pci card lspci was not got any card
12:41
hmm
12:41
i didnt used lsmod
12:41
<pscheie>
lsmod *should* show if a sound module is being loaded, I think
12:42
<CaPRiCorN^80>
i m not in office so cannot check it now :(
12:42
<pscheie>
also, watch during bootup for the messages about sound
12:42
<CaPRiCorN^80>
pscheie: u mean lsmod or /tmp/info/SOUND show me this trident card
12:42
<pscheie>
they come right before X starts, so if you boot to a command prompt you can usually catch them
12:43
lsmod will show what modules are loaded
12:43
if it recognizes the sound card, it should load a module for it
12:43
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
12:44
wat next i should if the module is loaded ?
12:44
i m asking now because i dont find any one when i m at office to help me out
12:44
<pscheie>
listen for the speakers to click when the module is loaded
12:45
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
12:45
wat about me settings ? did u check that pastebin ?
12:45
<pscheie>
if that all works, try 'esdplay somefile.wav'
12:46
where somefile.wav is a wav file on your system
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
pscheie: after doing this settings i paste u in paste bin .. i tried to play .wav file using helix player n sound works fine but i didnt hear any sound . i mean it did play it but cannot hear the sound
12:47
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, hi
12:47
you done configure LSTP?
12:47
<CaPRiCorN^80>
speakers were fine as i checked them with my laptop
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<pscheie>
right, but when the sound modules are loaded you'll usually hear a tiny click from the speakers
12:48
which is a good sign.
12:48
it's something to look for
12:48
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
12:49
did u check me pastebin ????
12:49
did u check my pastebin ????
12:49
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mathesis: yup
12:49
mathesis: pasame el correo pa pasarte las mieles ;)
12:49
<mathesis>
ya tienes el paso a paso para bobos,tontos
12:49
mathersis@gmail.com
12:49
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, acabo de hacer una instalacion de elive
12:50
<CaPRiCorN^80>
pscheie : http://pastebin.ca/363829 .
12:50
<mathesis>
quiero elive con terminales tontos :)
12:51
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
voy pa ti vividor!!!!
12:51
jajajaj
12:51
despues que me exprimi el cerebro
12:51
jaja
12:51
ok
12:51
<mathesis>
ja ja ja
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<pscheie>
CaPRiCorN^80: saw that, what about it?
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
pscheie: sorry i got d/c
12:53
i pasted u last msg <CaPRiCorN^80> pscheie : http://pastebin.ca/363829 .
12:53
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
listo fiera
12:53
<pscheie>
right, saw that; what about it?
12:53
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ws117 is my thin station where i attached that pci sound card
12:54
are my settings are ok in pastebin
12:54
<pscheie>
syntactically, they look okay
12:54
<CaPRiCorN^80>
wat this line do SMODULE_01 = soundcore?
12:55
<pscheie>
but have you tried it without the SMODULE settings?
12:55
<CaPRiCorN^80>
n SMODULE_02 = uart401 ??
12:55
<pscheie>
now that you've got PCI cards
12:55
<CaPRiCorN^80>
and last one SMODULE_03 = sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1
12:55
<pscheie>
you don't usually need to set such things with pci cards
12:55
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
pscheie: i wish that will work
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
pscheie: wat if lsmod dont load its module ?
12:59
<pscheie>
then the kernel isn't recognizing the sound card
13:00
then the best route would be to try booting a knoppix CD and see if it recognizes the sound card
13:00
if it does, get the settings from that
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
well if lspci is showing that audio device . it means its working becauce before this pci card i have built in ISA card which was not working
13:01
<pscheie>
lspci just shows the pci devices, doesn't mean a module for it was loaded
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<pscheie>
lspci is just what the pci bus reports
13:02
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
13:02
is there any doc available to configure sound ?
13:02
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, justo cuando me estaba emocionando con tu como me llega un cliente xD
13:03
<pscheie>
uh, not really; there are some pages on the k12ltsp wiki and the ltsp wiki
13:03
<mathesis>
tuve que quitar el hdd debian y poner el edubuntu xD
13:03
<pscheie>
but sound is still tough
13:03
supposed to get better in the not-too-distant future
13:03
with gstreamer and pulseaudio
13:03
<CaPRiCorN^80>
but i have to configure with in this week
13:04
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
;)
13:04
<pscheie>
best thing is to find a sound card that works, and buy a bunch of them
13:04
<CaPRiCorN^80>
i got 2 . one is that tridant and other is also pci . let see
13:05
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, your server ltsp es pra medicos vdd?
13:07
<pscheie>
Gadi: ping
13:07
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, checa esto
13:07
ip.de.la.internet ltsp-srv.sld.cu ltsp
13:08
"ltsp-srv.sld.cu ltsp" <<<<===esto es opcional
13:08
yo no tengo dominio
13:09
<Gadi>
pscheie: I actually am on my way out the door - bbiab
13:09
<pscheie>
ping me when you get back
13:09
<Gadi>
k
13:09
will try to reember :)
13:09
otherwise ping me too
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
Gadi: can we use usb's on rdesktop ?
13:12
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, donde dejaste lo de instalar nfs
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<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, en debian como start,stop,restart; inetd?
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
pscheie: one more thing . should i add user to audio group or some thing like that ?
13:32
coz someone was telling me this
13:32
<pscheie>
I don't think so; I never have
13:32
<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
13:32
can i have ur email . so that i can mail u if my problem dont solve
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<pscheie>
petre@maltzen.net
13:33
<CaPRiCorN^80>
oh petre its u
13:34
i chatted with u few days ago
13:34
<pscheie>
but checking on #ltsp is your best bet, as you're likely to find people who know more than I do here
13:34
<CaPRiCorN^80>
with same problem
13:34
<pscheie>
yeah, from work I'm pscheie but from home I'm petre
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<joebaker>
My thin client's X display is locking up.
13:35
LTSP5 Ubuntu
13:36
However I am sshed into it and ssh is responding.
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<joebaker>
I've noticed lately that there have been pauses when doing web browsing.
13:38
Maybe I corrupted memory of the X server. I was probing around in /proc and did a hexdump command of the mem file for the process.
13:40
I want to run something like x0rfbserver on a thin client. Where do I find the XAuthority information?
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<mathesis>
se sh3mh4mf0r4sh no puedo descargar ltsp-4.u2-0.iso
13:40
esta apagado tu server web?
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<joebaker>
Silly me the .Xauthority file is in the /home/username/.Xauthority file just I should have suspected. I figured there would be some local link to that file from the thin client for running X0rfbserver.
13:59
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mathesis: /etc/init.d/inetd st[op|art]
13:59
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, no tengo eso
13:59
tu lo tienes?
13:59
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
instalalo
14:00
<mathesis>
como se llama el paquete en debian?
14:00
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
inetd-superserver
14:01
<mathesis>
inetutils-inetd
14:01
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
tambien
14:01
es un od eesos
14:01
<mathesis>
no tengo el paquete inetd-superserver
14:03
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
como q no
14:03
tu actualizates el etch normal ?
14:03
<mathesis>
tengo el etch de elive
14:03
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhm no
14:03
<mathesis>
es el mismo que el debian
14:04
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
el etch que tengo aunque debe ser igual es el
14:04
testing de la fecha 5 feb de este anno
14:04
<mathesis>
haber pasame tu repositorios
14:04
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ftp.sld.cu/debian
14:04
http://webftp.sld.cu/AutoIndex/index.php?dir=debian-cd/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/
14:05
el iso que digo en el manual es el que esta en el repo de ltsp.org
14:05
<mathesis>
loading
14:05
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
pa descargar
14:05
<mathesis>
de ahi no pasa
14:05
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
esta cerrado pa cuba
14:05
<mathesis>
connectinf to ftp.sld.cu/debian
14:05
xDDD
14:06
pasame tus repositorios please
14:06
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
son locales con el debmirror que se ahce aca en el ftp contra el de ftp.debian.org
14:06
deb http://ftp.sld.cu/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
14:08
<mathesis>
oh
14:08
es algo restringido el internet aya
14:10
inetutils-inetd - Internet super server sh3mh4mf0r4sh
14:10
ese es el paquete
14:16
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
barbaro
14:16
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, que paquete de nfs es el que instalas
14:17
<mistik1>
what are you guys going on about?
14:17
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
nfs-kernel
14:18
<mistik1>
english would not work so the rest of us could at least follow
14:18
?
14:18
maybe someone else has the same problems..
14:18
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mathesis: he incrementado el how to .. ando terminando lo de los dispositivos locales pq eso no me esta pinchando aun ando configurandolo.. esa parte aun no la tengo cogia por los monnos!
14:19
<mathesis>
nfs-kernel-server cierto?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhm
14:21
si
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ese y el nfs-common
14:21
que toma por dependencia
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<mathesis>
deberia enlazarse pormap a la direccion de la interfaz de red local?
14:22
habilito
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
no solo habilitarla
14:25
yo el portmap lo toque nada mas
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para que se inicie
14:26
mas nada
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mistik1: r u there still?
14:26
sbalneav: r u there?
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<sbalneav>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: yep, I'm here.
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhm i follow this steps to plug my devices locally
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but detec perfect
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
but not show the newcarpet
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something like permision of lecture
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:|
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<sbalneav>
Sorry, I'm not getting what you mean.
14:29
What's newcarpet?
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<sbalneav>
Have you followed the checklist on the wiki?
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!checklist
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "checklist" is The checklist for debugging problems with local device access is at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting. Please work through all 12 steps, record the results, and paste the results to the pastebot at http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
14:44
was fuse module .. have to add at /etc/modules a hand!
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:)
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thanxs
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reboot and works cool!
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
sbalneav: nice!
15:00
now yes
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<slipttees>
hi all
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<freemind>
hi...
15:42
<slipttees>
hey man!
15:42
kdrmc bullshit :@
15:43
<str4nd>
you mean kdmrc?
15:43
<slipttees>
doesn't work XDMCP
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:"(
15:43
<str4nd>
thats true, i have same problem
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<slipttees>
:)
15:43
<str4nd>
ldm(?) working..
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<slipttees>
str4nd: XDMCO faltal error: Manager Unwilling Host Unwilling?
15:44
xdmcp*
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<str4nd>
noo.... brains: syntax error, i go to sleep
15:45
<slipttees>
Ok
15:48
<freemind>
use gdm or xdm
15:49
<slipttees>
why kdm no work xdmcp?
15:53
xdmcp Yes Yes Yes gdm, kdm Using: gdm
15:53
<freemind>
and??
15:53
<slipttees>
but session xdmcp doesn't work in the thinclient
15:55
i want remove gdm...
15:56
and is only with kdm
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<freemind>
try this...
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on lts.conf
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use
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SCREEN_01 = shell
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and saw if you can logon server...
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<slipttees>
Ok
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<slipttees>
bye
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Hello All... I'm just about at my wits end here.... Trying to get autologin on LTSP under Ubuntu!
16:31
Anyone had any success in this regard? :-(
16:33
<freemind>
autologin???
16:33
its possible but need some changes on inittab
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i saw this on desktop not on ltsp
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<Oz_Diver_68>
I don't mind getting into the script files (C++ programmer from way back), I just need to be pointed in the right direction~
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<freemind>
yeah... you will use a c++ program and need to do some changes on inittab
16:40
<Oz_Diver_68>
OK - that's a start. Know of any docs I could read on this?
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<freemind>
i can send to you the c++ codes...
16:42
and inittab for example
16:42
but i never do this on ltsp
16:43
<Oz_Diver_68>
I'll take anything at the moment. I've been hacking at this for a few days now and it's getting to me. :(
16:44
<freemind>
ok
16:51
i have a C code to execute autologin on linux...
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<Gad1>
Oz_Diver_68: what are you trying to do?
16:58
<cliebow>
gadi:you didn't Tell me edgy uses upstart..i spent three days playinng with inittab thinking iwas a moron for not gtting it right
16:59
8~)
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<Gad1>
heh
16:59
yeah - upstart takes getting used to
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Hello Gad1: I'm trying to get U-Edgy to automatically log in the client workstations with specific usernames per terminal.
16:59
Call it a kiosk type mode.
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<Gad1>
Oz_Diver_68: u dont need C for that
17:00
<Oz_Diver_68>
I've got the ltsp side of things going nicely - not too hard when you follow the docs, but the auto login has me stumped
17:00
<Gad1>
well, maybe this will help:
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Fair enough. What's the best way of doing this?
17:01
<Gad1>
keep in mind that the "ldm" (which I am guessing is what you are using) is really a front-end to "ssh -X ...."
17:01
and is really not much more
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<Oz_Diver_68>
I just (as in less than 2 minutes ago) realised that the clients use ldm... :(
17:01
<Gad1>
if you want autologin with ssh, that means exchanging ssh keys
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heh
17:02
<Oz_Diver_68>
I'm a bit new on the ssh side of things.
17:02
<Gad1>
see, so all this theory will spare you hacking hairs... ;)
17:02
ah, ok
17:02
<Oz_Diver_68>
But I'm a brave boy - .....!
17:02
<Gad1>
so, lets back up
17:02
ssh can work in one of two ways, in general
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<jammcq>
hey all
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<Gad1>
1. you ssh to another computer
17:02
hey, jammcq
17:02
welcome to class
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take a seay
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<jammcq>
sorry i'm late
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<Gad1>
er, seat
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:)
17:03
<jammcq>
Gad1: what's wrong with your i ?
17:03
<Gad1>
I left it at the office
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<Gadi>
thats better
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<jammcq>
much
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<Gadi>
anyhow, Oz_Diver_68you still here?
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Waiting with baited breath!
17:04
<Gadi>
ah, ok
17:04
<Oz_Diver_68>
I've spent a few days trying to get this to do what I want.
17:04
<Gadi>
so you ssh to another computer (running an ssh server) as a particular user and you get propmted with a password
17:04
<Oz_Diver_68>
I'm an old RedHat user from way back in v6 days, but now looking at the U-Edgy LTSP struff
17:05
<Gadi>
the second way, is you generate a pair of ssh keys (public/private)
17:05
copy the public to the remote computer
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Yup - done that before. In fact I can do that from my XP box
17:05
<Gadi>
tell it to allow that public key
17:05
and then from then on, you can log into that remote computer without being prompted for your password
17:06
ok, so ur good with ssh keys, right?
17:06
<Oz_Diver_68>
OK - but in ltsp land the local and remote are on the same PC right?
17:06
<Gadi>
not at all
17:06
local is the thin client
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Where do I find/create/relocate these keys...?
17:06
<Gadi>
remote is the server
17:06
hold up
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Sorry - getting all excited here!
17:07
<Gadi>
(why are students always so jumpy?)
17:07
<Oz_Diver_68>
:-?
17:07
<Gadi>
ok, now ....
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ldm is a front-end to "ssh -X ..."
17:07
BUT, it isnt written with autologin in mind atm
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so, you can forget about using ldm+ssh keys
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but, you dont really have to
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all you want to do, is exchange the keys and launch ssh -X as a screen script
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<Oz_Diver_68>
OK - then what DO we do?
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<Gadi>
jumpy jump jumpy
17:09
we're building a theory here
17:09
<Oz_Diver_68>
:-I Sorry!
17:09
<Gadi>
:)
17:09
ok
17:09
now....
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in LTSP, normally, the thin client has no knowledge of user
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only of hardware
17:09
<Oz_Diver_68>
OK
17:09
<Gadi>
so, the thin client knows its hostname, IP, MAC, that sort of thing
17:09
<Oz_Diver_68>
Sure
17:10
<Gadi>
if you want to tie a *user* to a *thin client*
17:10
...
17:10
<Oz_Diver_68>
Yup!
17:10
<Gadi>
then, you will need to consider how you would like to do that mapping
17:10
the classic way people have done it in the past for kiosks is....
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user=hostname
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Don't have a problem with that.
17:11
<Gadi>
and they create a user account for each hostname
17:11
thats usually the simplest
17:11
as it doesn't involve lookup-tables
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Which is where I was trying to go, but not getting there :D
17:11
<Gadi>
ah, ok
17:11
so, here's what we need:
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1. a user account for each hostname (ws001, ws002....)
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2. generate public/private keys for each user
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<Oz_Diver_68>
OK - test1,test2,test2.... whatever works, sure
17:12
Ah - now we're getting where I haven't been before
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<Gadi>
3. create a new screen script that will launch "ssh -X..." using xinit
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(this one is tricky for a newb)
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4. Find a clever place on the LTSP tree (/opt/ltsp/i386) to store all of the *private* ssh keys
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Drop me in it - I've done email servers, firewalls and the like, just not this...
17:14
<Gadi>
5. add the appropriate public key to the appropraite user's "authorized_keys" file
17:14
6. edit lts.conf to launch your new screen script on boot instead of ldm
17:15
OR
17:15
there is actually an easier alternative with the keys
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create just *one* pair of ssh keys
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to be used by all terminals
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<Oz_Diver_68>
OK
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<Gadi>
and simply have your screen script connect to the server as user "ws001"
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er, <hostname>
17:16
yeah, thats much easier
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so, the hardest part is writing the screen script
17:16
<Oz_Diver_68>
So you have different "users" using the same key pair. Is that right?
17:16
<Gadi>
which I would do in bash
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for simplicity
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correct
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we're not shooting for security here
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:)
17:17
<Oz_Diver_68>
Nope - it's all internal to the building anyway
17:17
<Gadi>
having private keys on an NFS server renders the whole thing insecure anyway
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Sure
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<Gadi>
now, I'm forgetting atm where edgy puts the screen scripts: find /opt/ltsp/i386|grep startx
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Sp what am I looking at for the screen script?
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<Gadi>
ah, yes
17:19
in ltsp, the "screen script" is what is run as the last thing when the thin client boots up
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you can change it in lts.conf with SCREEN_07 = "name of script and args"
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its usually a simple bash script
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and can do things like run X -query <IP>
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or "ldm"
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or "xinit rdesktop ..."
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that sort of things
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<Oz_Diver_68>
OK (said very doubtfully)
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<Gadi>
they live in a "screen.d" directory somewhere in the chroot
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find screen.d
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have a look at the files in there
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you'll get the idea
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<Oz_Diver_68>
startx was found in opt/../usr/bin
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<Gadi>
thats the server's startx
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hmm - try finding screen.d
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btw - if removqable media is not important to you, you can also do all of this with XDMCP and gdm on the server
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<Oz_Diver_68>
OK also in /opt/...../usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d
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<Gadi>
thats the older way of doing things
17:23
there it is
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take a look in that directory
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<Oz_Diver_68>
OK
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<Gadi>
if you can read bash, take a look at the files for examples
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im gonna run grab dinner but will be back in a bit
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<Oz_Diver_68>
I can muddle along in bash
17:24
Thanks for the help so far = most insightful
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<Gadi>
np -- you have arrived at LTSP at an interesting yet tumultuous time
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<Oz_Diver_68>
That sounds a bit ominous
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:D
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I really do appreciate the help./
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<Oz_Diver_68>
Good night al!
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(ip)
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: you around
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<mistik1>
jammcq: hey jimbo
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<jammcq>
hey hey
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<mistik1>
I was looking into using that system-config-display utility but what a god awefull lot of dependences
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I also compared conf files generated by both it and mkxf86config and I could actually run the latter
20:06* jammcq doesn't know what that system-config-display thing is
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<mistik1>
Its the old redhat-config-display kudzu autoconfig bleh tool
20:06
<jammcq>
what does Gentoo use for determining configuration ?
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<mistik1>
xorg
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<jammcq>
I think the goal is to use whatever the distro would normally use
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<mistik1>
Well that's the point, gentoo does not really have such a thing as it were
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<jammcq>
oh right, gentoo users need to do all that stuff themselves :)
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<mistik1>
We have tuns of stuff in portage though
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like that redhat config tool, and the knoppix cd config tools
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I choose one that was simple without a great deal of deps but dberkholz has a good point with the pci database maintainance
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<mistik1>
I did some thinking on it today though, The hwdata-gentoo is being maintained if slower than the redhat database, the xorg drivers packages are maintaining a videoaliases file for cards but at the same time this IS and ltsp environment where you can enter custom configurations for video, mouse and keyboard in the lts.conf file ....
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It may take longer to update the hwdata-gentoo tables but that will not stop the user from saying XSERVER = foobar
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the same for other Option Foo in the X autoconfig routine
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<jammcq>
well, Gentoo people should be used to fine-tuning the configuration
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so if they had to twiddle with the latest cards, cuz they weren't auto-detected, that's not the end of the world
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<mistik1>
Right
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If it was not autodetected just put the driver in the lts.conf file and we're still good
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<petre>
jammcq: ping
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<vagrantc>
so, from the little bits and pieces i've been seeing here in irc, is the ltsp5 gentoo implementation making some serious progress? :)
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<mistik1>
vagrantc: well its starting
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<jammcq>
petre: hey
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: great :)
21:14
<mistik1>
you guys are lightyears ahead so far
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<petre>
something changed from K12 ver. 5 to ver. 6 'cause the 6 isn't recognizing the sound chip in my Dell laptops anymore
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<jammcq>
petre: hmm, dunno
21:15
<petre>
but they worked with ver. 5, once I got Gadi's oss-alsa package installed and you helped me rename the module name in audiolist
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<jammcq>
didn't you have to do some mucking around to get your sound on your dell to work?
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<petre>
yeah, Gadi's package. The module was mis-named maestro3, had to rename it snd-maestro3
21:16
Gadi added that change to the latest version of his package
21:17
but when the client boots now, it says it can't find Maestro3 module
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is that just another way of saying it doesn't recognize the sound chip?
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<jammcq>
sooo, maybe it's named wrong again
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<petre>
I tried 'modprobe snd-maestro3' and that seems to load
21:18
but sound doesn't work
21:18
<jammcq>
ok, so adjust the audiolist again
21:18
<petre>
well, would the name the kernel uses have changed?
21:18
<jammcq>
umm, might have
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but if you can load 'snd-maestro3' and it works, then the module name is the same
21:19
but it sounds like the audiolist has the wrong entry
21:19
<petre>
yeah, but it doesn't work
21:19
<jammcq>
oh
21:19
<petre>
or it loads but sound doesn't work
21:19
<jammcq>
well, could be anything
21:19
<petre>
that narrows it down
21:19
;-)
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<jammcq>
you are loading the snd-maestro after it's booted. are you manually starting the sound daemon?
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<petre>
uh, no, I guess not since I don't know how to do that
21:20
<jammcq>
well, seems to me the first thing you'd want to do, is make sure the proper sound module gets loaded on bootup
21:20
then, see what happens
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<petre>
I tried making a symlink from snd-maestro3 to maestro3 but it didn't help
21:21
let me try renaming it in audiolist...
21:21
<jammcq>
no, the proper place would be audiolist
21:21
actually renaming the module or creating a symlink won't work, cuz modprobe reads the modules.dep file to figure out what to load
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and your new name won't be there
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<petre>
nope, still says
21:24
FATAL: Module maestro3 not found
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<jammcq>
then you didn't modify it correctly
21:25
it's still looking for the wrong name
21:25
<petre>
Warning: Sound driver not loaded, please specify correct sound module in lts.conf
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<jammcq>
so, maybe there's more than one 'maestro' entry in audiolist
21:25
or maybe you modified the wrong audiolist file
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or maybe you didn't save the file after modifying it
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but if the error says 'maestro3 not found', that's a pretty good clue that it's still looking for the wrong module
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<petre>
lspci identifies it as a ES1983S, but there's nothing named es1983 in audiolist
21:28
<jammcq>
just cuz the manufacturer gave it a description of 'ES1983S' doesn't mean the driver module would be called es1983
21:28
it's NOT searching for es1983
21:28
it's searching for the PCI Vendor and Device ID, and then using the driver name that it finds
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<petre>
right, cuz the audiolist in ver.5 has the same names and it works
21:29
<jammcq>
so, search audiolist for ALL occurrances of maestro3, and change them to snd-maestro3
21:29
<petre>
I just did, no joy
21:29
<jammcq>
what's the error now?
21:30
<petre>
or rather, I changed all snd-maestro3 instances to maestro3
21:30
<jammcq>
why would you do that?
21:30
isn't the actual name of the module 'snd-maestro3' ?
21:30
didn't you say you did: modprobe snd-maestro3, and it loaded ?
21:30
<petre>
yes, but that wasn't working so I tried some renaming
21:30
I'm grasping in the dark here
21:30
<jammcq>
so now, who knows what you have
21:31
the proper name of the module is 'snd-maestro3'
21:32
<petre>
okay, I changed them all back to snd-maestro3
21:33
modprobe snd-maestro3 works
21:33
<jammcq>
ok
21:33
<petre>
how do I manually start the sound server?
21:33
<jammcq>
don't, just reboot the thin client
21:33
make sure the module gets loaded on reboot
21:34
<petre>
I don't think it will, because now I'm right back where I started from
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<jammcq>
are there any entries in audiolist that just say 'maestro3' ?
21:35
<petre>
no
21:35
<jammcq>
ok, reboot, and see if the driver loads
21:35
<petre>
I did, and it didn't
21:35
<jammcq>
what's the error?
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<petre>
FATAL: Module maestro3 not found
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<jammcq>
doesn't make sense
21:36
ltsp figures out what module to load, based on audiolist, and you claim to have changed ALL 'maestro3' entries
21:37
<petre>
I agree, esp. since it used to work, with ver.5, and they're both ltsp 4.2
21:37
<jammcq>
so, either you didn't change it properly, or you changed the wrong file
21:37
<mathesis>
hola vagrantc
21:37
hi ogra
21:37
<petre>
more precisely, Gadi's package changed them all to snd-maestro3
21:37
<jammcq>
is there another audiolist file?
21:37
<petre>
in ver. 5 I had to change it by hand
21:38
yes, the one that came with ver. 6
21:38
<jammcq>
where is that ?
21:38
<petre>
sitting right next to it
21:38
I think Gadi's package looks to audiolist-alsa
21:38
<jammcq>
you "think" ?
21:38
I'd follow the sequence of events
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<petre>
I think that's what he told me; it's been a few weeks
21:39
but perhaps it's still reading the audiolist file which is sitting right next to the audiolist-alsa file
21:39
let me try modding that...
21:39
<jammcq>
so look at the rc.sound script, and SEE what it's doing
21:40
don't mod anything. UNDERSTAND it first, then mod it
21:40
<petre>
aha!
21:41
From rc.sound: AUTOPROBE=`/sbin/pci_scan /etc/audiolist`
21:41
so it is looking at the old one
21:41
<jammcq>
but... is rc.sound actually the script that is running ?
21:41
look at rc.sysinit, search for 'sound'
21:41
I'm not sure how Gadi's package integrates with ltsp
21:42
<petre>
yep, rc.sysinit calls rc.sound
21:43
I think it used to use audiolist-alsa because I recall reading or him telling me that it was 'safe' because it didn't remove the audiolist file, just ignored it
21:43
So, is the logical thing to modify rc.sound to look at audiolist-alsa or should I change it somewhere else?
21:44
<jammcq>
change audiolist
21:44
clearly, maestro3 is the wrong name for the module
21:47
<mistik1>
.
21:47
<petre>
well, progress: I renamed all the maestro entries to snd-maestro
21:48
now I don't get the 'module not found' error, but I am seeing several '/dev/dsp: no such file or directory" errors
21:48
<jammcq>
sounds like its using the wrong esd or something
21:49
seems like you need Gadi to get this going
21:49
<petre>
I started by renaming the the same module that I renamed to fix it in ver. 5, but then I still got the module not found error
21:49
<mistik1>
what does lsmod look like
21:49
<petre>
so I renamed them all, as mentioned
21:50
it looks like snd_maestro3 is loaded
21:50
<mistik1>
anything else snd-*
21:50
<jammcq>
I think there's a snd-compat that you need
21:50
<mistik1>
or snd*
21:50
<jammcq>
or something like that
21:50
<mistik1>
jammcq: that is what I was thinking
21:51
The oss compat modules
21:51
<petre>
snd_ac97_codec, snd_pcm snd_timer, snd
21:51
<mathesis>
inetd[2722]: /usr/sbin/tcpd: exit status 0x100
21:52
Feb 19 21:48:33 ltsp inetd[2722]: tftp/udp server failing (looping), service terminated
21:52
<mistik1>
petre: take a look in /lib/modules/KVER/kernel/sound
21:53
<petre>
mistik1: what should I look for?
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<mistik1>
maybe try loading the snd-mixer-oss and snd-pcm-oss
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<petre>
oops, disconnected myself
21:54
<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: estas por aqui?
21:54
<petre>
mistik1: what should I look for?
21:54
<mistik1>
I think you need those to address the sound devices with /dev/dsp with alsa
21:54
maybe try loading the snd-mixer-oss and snd-pcm-oss
21:55
<petre>
on the client?
21:55
<mistik1>
yes
21:56
you may need to change the - to _
21:57
<knight>
mathesis
21:57
<mathesis>
http://pastebin.ca/364401 check mi syslog error
21:57
<knight>
ya arregleste el problema
21:57
<mathesis>
knight: ahora tengo este problema mira el pastebin
21:57
<petre>
mistik1: from the shell prompt or within the gui?
21:57
<knight>
si eso veo
21:58
osea que no hay connection para tftp
21:58
<petre>
Gadi: ping
21:58
<jammcq>
Gadi: is likely sleeping
21:58
<mistik1>
petre: the same place you are loading the meastro3 drivers
21:59
<mathesis>
knight: como puedo hacer que haya coneccion?
21:59
<petre>
I'm loading them via the audiolist file, that's the only thing I've changed
21:59
<knight>
ok que es el 192.168.0.199
21:59
el thin client
21:59
<mathesis>
si
21:59
<petre>
or do you mean rc.sound?
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<jammcq>
petre: modify the rc.sound script to load those 2 modules AFTER loading snd-maestro3
22:00
<knight>
hi jammcq
22:00
did you happen to take a look a mathesis issue
22:00
<jammcq>
howdie knight
22:00
nope
22:00
what's his issue?
22:00
<knight>
tftp is not connecting
22:01
http://pastebin.ca/364401
22:01
can you please have a look at that file
22:02
oh and Jammcq
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<jammcq>
what is on his screen?
22:02
<knight>
let me ask him
22:03
mathesis que tienes en pantalla
22:03
cuando inicias el thin client
22:03
<mathesis>
Loading: 192.168.0.1:/lts/vmlinuz-2.6.17.3-ltsp-1 /
22:03
es la ultima linea
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<knight>
jammcq this is what appears on his screen
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<knight>
somehow connection to tftp is refused
22:05
<petre>
doggonit, keep disconnecting myself
22:06
jammcq or mistik1, what were those parts I needed to load in rc.sound?
22:06
<knight>
" petre: the same place you are loading the meastro3 drivers"
22:07
<jammcq>
22:51 < mistik1> maybe try loading the snd-mixer-oss and snd-pcm-oss
22:07
<mathesis>
knight: no tienes idea de lo que me ha costado y aun sigue dando problemas
22:07
<petre>
right, got the where, now I need the what, since I killed by xchat session and lost the history of what was said
22:07
<knight>
petre: modify the rc.sound script to load those 2 modules AFTER loading snd-maestro3
22:08
thats part of history
22:08
<jammcq>
22:51 < mistik1> maybe try loading the snd-mixer-oss and snd-pcm-oss
22:08
<knight>
mathesis que distro es que utilizas
22:08
<mathesis>
debian etch
22:08
<knight>
oh ok
22:09
que paquete instalaste para tftp
22:09
<mathesis>
atftpd
22:10
<knight>
has instalado
22:11
netkit-inetd
22:11
???
22:11
<jammcq>
atftpd is fine
22:11
is there ANY errors on the thin client screen ?
22:11
<mathesis>
solo atftpd
22:11
<knight>
que errores hay en la pantalla del thin client
22:12
<mathesis>
esta parado en
22:12
Searchin for server(
22:12
(DHCP)... \
22:12
<knight>
he mentions that it is searching for dhcp
22:12
<jammcq>
he's confused
22:13
<knight>
I see that
22:13
<jammcq>
he's already past dhcp, if he's getting tftp problems
22:13
<knight>
right
22:13
mathesis
22:13
<petre>
hey hey! Loading those 2 modules in rc.sound fixed it!
22:13
<mathesis>
Me: 192.168.0.199,DHCP:192.168.0.1, TFTP: 192.168.0.1,Gatewy:192.168.0.254
22:13
Loading: 192.168.0.1:/lts/vmlinuz-2.6.17.3-ltsp-1 /
22:14
stop here!!!
22:14
<knight>
maybe the issue is the wrong image
22:14
<jammcq>
try this:
22:14
iptables -L
22:14
knight: wrong image would give a different error
22:14
<knight>
oh ok
22:14
kernel panic?
22:15
na thats nfs
22:15
dice jammcq que intentes el iptables -L
22:15
<mathesis>
ok
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<jammcq>
hey PMantis
22:17
<mathesis>
knight: sigue igual
22:17
<PMantis>
hey jammcq
22:17
<knight>
que resultado te da el comando
22:18
<mathesis>
http://pastebin.ca/364436
22:19
<petre>
thanks all!
22:19
<knight>
jammcq those are the result of the iptables -L
22:20
<mathesis>
http://pastebin.ca/364440 <===mira mi syslog
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<alos>
anyone here in the Austin, Texas area?
22:24
<knight>
i guess not
22:25
<jammcq>
knight: iptables isn't causing the problem
22:25
<knight>
ok
22:26
mathesis
22:26
no es iptable la cause de tu problema
22:26
osea que debe de ser otra cosa
22:26
<petre>
okay, I think I found the real source of my problem
22:27
it appears that when I installed Gadi's package, which is needed, the rc.sound file from his package didn't get copied into /etc
22:27
it does point to audiolist-alsa, etc.
22:27
and it works now.
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<mathesis>
/opt/ltsp 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
22:28
knight: esta bien o sera
22:28
/opt/ltsp/i386 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
22:29
<knight>
tiene que tener el IPaddress the 192.168.0.1
22:31
<mathesis>
knight: la ruta debe ser /opt/ltsp or /opt/ltsp/i386?
22:32
<knight>
i386
22:32
seria mejor
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<slipttees>
:D
22:33
hey hey
22:33
:D
22:34* slipttees very happy
22:35
<mathesis>
slipttees: hi hombre
22:36
<slipttees>
fala ae amigo :)
22:38
mathesis: hey man!
22:38
<knight>
que tal
22:38
slittees
22:38
me falto la p
22:39
<mathesis>
tengo problem
22:39
<knight>
que paso ahora
22:39
???
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<slipttees>
knight: work kdm XDMCP :D
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<knight>
ok cool man
22:40
<slipttees>
purge kdm reinstall e configure with ltspadmin :)
22:40
<knight>
cool
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<knight>
nice now you have an answer to that one for somebody else
22:41
<mathesis>
knight: nadie usas debian?
22:41
<knight>
yo no uso debian
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<knight>
uso ubuntu que es parte de debian
22:41
<slipttees>
i too :)
22:42
<knight>
mathesis haz usado ubuntu para la instalation de ltsp
22:42
no edubuntu
22:42
<mathesis>
edubuntu
22:42
<knight>
haz intentado ubuntu
22:43
<mathesis>
tengo un edubuntu trabajando con ltsp
22:43
knight: no
22:43
<knight>
ok
22:43
<mathesis>
ltsp5 con edubuntu pero quiero migrarlo a ltsp4.2 es mas rapido
22:43
hace 3 meses lo tenia he hecho lo mismo que hace 3 meses y no me queda
22:44
<slipttees>
mathesis: install ltsp4.2 only ubuntu 6.06
22:44
<knight>
si
22:44
<slipttees>
6.10 no work because no have innittab
22:44
and yeah upstart :)
22:44
<knight>
which one is faster on setup
22:44
I mean on performance
22:47
<slipttees>
ltsp4.2 necesary innittab
22:47
<knight>
oh ok
22:47
<mathesis>
que tiene es tu /etc/default/portmap
22:48
<knight>
hablas conmigo >
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<mathesis>
si
22:50
<vagrantc>
mathesis: tiene edubuntu y debian etch?
22:50
<mathesis>
vagrantc: edubuntu its workeando perfecto
22:50
<vagrantc>
mathesis: con ltsp5?
22:50
<mathesis>
vagrantc: yes
22:50
its fine tsp5
22:51
<vagrantc>
mathesis: por que no usa ltsp5 con debian etch?
22:51
<slipttees>
mathesis: error nfs-kernel passed?
22:51
<mathesis>
my problem is ltsp4.2 in debian
22:51
slipttees: i have error new
22:51
<knight>
mathesis has a different error
22:51
<mathesis>
Loading: 192.168.0.1:/lts/vmlinuz-2.6.17.3-ltsp-1 /
22:51
stop here
22:52
<knight>
mathesis haz utilizado que version de edubuntu
22:52
el de edgy eft?
22:52
<vagrantc>
mathesis: grep filename dhcpd.conf
22:52
<mathesis>
knight: edgy
22:53
<vagrantc>
mathesis: creo que configurar por "etherboot", pero usa "pxe"
22:53
<slipttees>
mathesis: nfs no work remember!
22:53
mathesis: number kernel error
22:53
2.6.17.3
22:53
é
22:53
2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
22:54
<mathesis>
2.6.17.3-ltsp-1 vmlinuz-2.6.17.3-ltsp-1
22:55
<slipttees>
humm =/
22:55
already's 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
22:55
<knight>
yeah but he also had problem with the IP address
22:56
<jammcq>
1.9tb, not too bad
22:57
oops :)
22:57
<mistik1>
heh
22:57
<slipttees>
jammcq: currect version kernel ltsp's 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1?
22:58
<jammcq>
umm,
22:58
I don't remember
22:58
<knight>
lol
22:58
Alot of info
22:58
buffer overflow
22:58
<slipttees>
rene@kubuntu:/tftpboot/lts$ ls
22:58
2.6.16.1-ltsp-2 vmlinuz-2.6.16.1-ltsp-2
22:58
2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
22:58
rene@kubuntu:/tftpboot/lts$
22:58
<vagrantc>
see, we're trying to get past having to remember the ltsp-specific kernel versions :)
22:58
<slipttees>
:D
22:59
<knight>
lol
22:59
<vagrantc>
embrace ltsp5 :)
23:03
<knight>
jejeje
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<knight>
vagrantc you made some mayor development for the debian disttro right?
23:04
<vagrantc>
knight: a fair amount, sure.
23:05
knight: did a lot of work to make the stuff done by ubuntu shareable with multiple distros
23:05
<knight>
yeah I know I say you name somewhere
23:05
<mistik1>
vagrantc: what package provides dexconf ?
23:06
<knight>
saw
23:06
*
23:06
<vagrantc>
mistik1: in debian, x11-common
23:06
mistik1: but dexconf is a debian-specific program.
23:07
<mistik1>
I see
23:07
I know this but I still want to take a look
23:07
<vagrantc>
it's actually quite simple... i wish it would be made more generic.
23:08
really, it just gets the answers to debconf questions, and then generates an xorg.conf based on those answers
23:08
<mistik1>
what language is it written in
23:08
<vagrantc>
shell
23:09
<mistik1>
can I see if
23:09
I just want to see the type of values it looks for in those config files
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: it's fairly well commented ...
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