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Channel log from 30 October 2012   (all times are UTC)

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07:40
<alkisg>
!nbd-client
07:40
<ltsp>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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10:03
<sunson>
I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients. I used to run thin clients. I built the fat client in /opt/ltsp/fat386 and modified /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to use "/ltsp/fat386" instead of "/ltsp/i386". Now the fat clients show login screen but auth fails. In a flicker, the login screen reappears. how do I debug?
10:03
I run edubuntu 11.04
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10:11
<Apostolis>
καλημερα αλκη εισαι μεσα
10:11
<alkisg>
Καλημέρα Apostolis
10:12
<Apostolis>
εχω ενα μηχανημα server που δεν ξεκινανε οι client mporeiw να βοηθησεις
10:12
<alkisg>
Ναι μισό τηλ
10:13
<Apostolis>
οκ πεσμου οταν
10:14
<alkisg>
Apostolis: δεν ξεκινάνε καθόλου; κάνε ένα vnc από τον server
10:14
x11vnc -connect plinet.ioa.sch.gr
10:14
<Apostolis>
περιγραφη: κανω τωρα δημοσιευση σκληρου δισκου με τα μεχρι τωρα δεδομενα, εχει ομως να κατεβασει 400ΜΒ με ενημερωσεις θα το κανω μετα
10:16
<Mava>
aha
10:18
<alkisg>
Apostolis: join #ts.sch.gr so that we don't write greek in this channel, it's english only :)
10:18
<Apostolis>
το πρωτο ξεκινισε
10:19
<gvy>
apostolis axios? :)
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10:59
<sunson>
is there a limit to nbd image file size? I built a fat client. The image is ~774MB. I see a message in syslog "size of export file/device is 809943040" followed by a "Disconnect request received".
11:02
<alkisg>
No, no limit
11:05
That message is normal, it's checking for newer versions of the image
11:05
<sunson>
alkisg: oh, but auth fails.
11:05
<alkisg>
Check ssh keys and available/selected sessions, e.g. unity 3d might not work
11:05
If auth fails, check the password :)
11:06
<sunson>
alkisg: i know the password is right :)
11:06
alkisg: also the log (auth.log) shows that auth succeeded :)
11:06
<alkisg>
Then auth succeeds, it doesn't fail
11:07
Check the available sessions
11:07
<sunson>
alkisg: but i get login screen again. something flashes (too fast to read) and then it doesn't work anymore.
11:07
<alkisg>
E.g. from the ldm preferences button, select unity 2d or so
11:07
<sunson>
its back to log screen
11:07
<alkisg>
That means that xorg crashes
11:07
(usually)
11:08
<sunson>
weird. this happens only from my VM. the real clients login to desktop fine.
11:08
<alkisg>
VMs don't support unity3d
11:09
<sunson>
alkisg: i tried with other sessions also (including failsafe). how do I see X log on the fat client?
11:11
i have some basic doubts about whether my client is booting into thin or fat. how do I differentiate?
11:13
<alkisg>
!screen_02
11:13
<ltsp>
screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
11:13
<alkisg>
Or, from a real client that logs in, open a terminal and check the output of `hostname`
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11:32
<sunson>
don't know what I did... (did too many things :( ) but it works for only one user - "me". All other users ldm fails to start X session (as seen in client's ldm.log)
11:32
the coincidence in /etc/passwd is that a 'test' account I created, happens to have the same uid as what "me" user has on server.
11:35
btw, http://www.epoptes.org/installation is throwing a 404.
11:35
the home page works fine. just installation page is gone.
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<ltspuser_98>
hi!
13:07
<andygraybeal_>
hi
13:07
<ltspuser_98>
I'm having two problems...
13:07
I am working with an Ubuntu 12.04 chroot and I need to know 2 thing
13:08
first my KRDC app doesn't work
13:08
even if I put this app like a local app
13:08
my terminal freezes...
13:08
and another one is if I put my firefox running like a local app the theme is lost...
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which package do I need to install to have Ubuntu themes on firefox?
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14:41
<sbalneav>
Morning all
14:45
<dead_inside>
morning sbalneav
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<ltspuser_98>
13:07] <ltspuser_98> I'm having two problems... [13:07] <ltspuser_98> I am working with an Ubuntu 12.04 chroot and I need to know 2 thing [13:07] <ltspuser_98> first my KRDC app doesn't work [13:08] <ltspuser_98> even if I put this app like a local app [13:08] <ltspuser_98> my terminal freezes... [13:08] <ltspuser_98> and another one is if I put my firefox running like a local app the theme is lost... [13:09] <ltspuser_98> which p
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<lovepoptes>
hi
14:54
people
14:54
i am using epopte in a childcare instituation ... i got a problem with the muting function
14:54
when i try to muts my LTSP clients cothing happens ... rest of the features seem to work
14:55
i really need that feature couse the kids love to play on the volume
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15:29
<alkisg>
lovepoptes: doesn't mute lower the volume to zero?
15:31
sunson: http://www.epoptes.org/installation works for me
15:42
<lovepoptes>
well it works ... but no muting
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<lovepoptes>
it should lower it to 0 ... but it des nothing
15:44
hmmm ok ... suddenly it does work ... but i am not able to unmute... but thats fine
15:44
<ogra_>
mute usually doesnt change the volume at all
15:44
it sets the mute switch
15:44
<alkisg>
lovepoptes: unmuting is an alsa bug, let me find it..
15:44
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/1026331
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15:48
<lovepoptes>
good .. thx for poitning that out
15:48
alkisg :)
15:49
think I will live with that ... I gues the kids will do the unmute :D
15:51
<alkisg>
Unfortunately we haven't found a good method to permanately lock the volume, but it's in the TODO list for when we do find a better way
15:51
Writing a pulseaudio plugin was the only real method I could find so far
15:52
<ogra_>
you could abuse alsa ucm
15:52
s/ab//
15:52
:)
15:56
<alkisg>
ogra_: this one? http://www.slimlogic.co.uk/2009/02/alsa-use-case-manager/
15:56
When I tried changing alsa volume levels, users could change them back using pulseaudio...
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16:15
<lovepoptes>
any way to make the preview thumbs of the desktops larger?
16:15
<alkisg>
lovepoptes: there's a setting in a config file for that,
16:16
<lovepoptes>
sweet
16:16
<alkisg>
or you can wait 10 days for the next epoptes version which will have that in the UI
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<lovepoptes>
even better :)
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16:16
<alkisg>
lovepoptes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/epoptes/+bug/984901
16:19
<lovepoptes>
ok ... works gr8 thx a lot
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16:50
<alkisg>
!learn alkisg-todo as fix/revert r2396
16:50
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: so, sometimes using printf "%b" gives warnings with checkbashisms, sometimes not... :(
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: for r2396, this would also do it: printf "$replace\n" >> "$file"
18:10* vagrantc wonders what the need for all the substitutions is
18:11
<vagrantc>
alkisg: is there any reason not to always include the variable directly, rather than through %s or %b?
18:11
<alkisg>
Multiple subnets == multiple lines == \n in the $replace string
18:11
Yes
18:11
For example:
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If one wants to replace: This line contains %b which should not be interpreted, and \n which should be
18:12
...then that "%b" in the $replace line will be processed by printf in this case: printf "$replace"
18:12
...while it won't, in this case: printf "%b" "$replace"
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But for the limited dnsmasq/ranges case, we don't mind, we shouldn't have any %b or other format specifiers there anyway
18:15
<vagrantc>
so that covers server/ltsp-config, what about client/share/ltsp/screen-x-common?
18:16
<alkisg>
I think r2398 is fine for that, we don't expect any escape sequences in $1 there, do we?
18:16
So there's no need for %b there
18:16
<highvoltage>
it's weird seeing alkis online st nigjt:)
18:17* highvoltage likes this timezone
18:17
<alkisg>
highvoltage: back home?
18:17
<vagrantc>
alkisg: ok.
18:18* vagrantc suspects checkbashisms has a faulty check
18:18* vagrantc will add some tests to debian/rules once wheezy is release
18:18
<highvoltage>
denmark for uds
18:18
<alkisg>
Ah right
18:19
<highvoltage>
on phone via ssh so talk l8r
18:19
<alkisg>
An ssh phone? Wow some people really need private communications... :D
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19:51
<mikec>
is there a way to completely clean out an ltsp-cluster-lbagent installation? For some reason my cluster doesn't want to see this machine I've reinstalled. On ubuntu 12.04 LTS, apt-get remove ltsp-clusterlbagent doesnt seem to be do the trick
19:51
when i re-install the package, there are config files in /etc/ltsp
19:51
namely lbaconfig.xml or accountmanager.conf
19:52
there are *no config files in /etc/ltsp
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<mikec>
and I get this a lot in the logs
20:11
Cannot retrieve node '<appservername>', error:<class 'socket.error'>
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<ltspuser_36>
Can anyone speak Spanish fluently?
20:48
Hello
20:48
<elias_a>
ltspuser_36: Not on this channel as far as I know.
20:52
<ltspuser_36>
Well, thanks anyway and good luck.
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