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Channel log from 29 June 2016   (all times are UTC)

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05:21
<komunista>
hi all
05:22
alkisg: some progress now
05:22
the oldest clients complains about missing PAE
05:22
the new one complains about NFS
05:28
when I switch to kernel without PAE, the old one tells /sbin/init not found and then kernel panic
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07:42
<vagrantc>
ugh.
07:43
i had word that my overlay fs issues with NFS are over... turns out overlay fs isn't working for NFS or even NBD+squashfs in debian at the moment
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08:50
<alkisg>
...where *is* it working?!!!
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13:19
<vagrantc>
ok, the fundamental problem is a lack of /sbin/init ...
13:19
that was one assumption we made that i would have never imagined to cease to be
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13:37
<vagrantc>
systemd-sysv or sysvinit-core need to be installed
13:42
of course, ldm doesn't start...
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14:11
<vagrantc>
ok, ldm didn't start because the it doesn't appear to support qxl video... but with a more conventional video setting, it worked.
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14:27
<alkisg>
"the it"?
14:28
<vagrantc>
alkisg: ldm
14:28
or rather, xserver-xorg-video-qxl didn't work with ldm
14:28
<alkisg>
In kvm?
14:28
<vagrantc>
changed the video used by virt-manager to cirrus and everything was fine.
14:29
<alkisg>
Cool... btw I think some backports would also be nice
14:29
<vagrantc>
proxydhcp is working with virt-manager's default networking ... but not very well.
14:29
<alkisg>
Maybe some little fixes, one release + backports, and then on to adding new features like multiseat
14:29
<vagrantc>
alkisg: yeah, i was planning on doing some backports, or possibly getting a new DM to help with them. :)
14:30
<alkisg>
I think that'd be a great start for my DM career :D
14:30
We'll probably switch a school to Debian/LTSP this year, as a test drive
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14:39
<vagrantc>
alkisg: so, i've got ltsp working with NFS+overlay fs again ...
14:39
<alkisg>
Yey!
14:39
Any issues left?
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14:42
<vagrantc>
alkisg: it requires adding an option that wasn't introduced in the kernel till january of 2016
14:42
no sure if that will cause problems with older versions of ubuntu
14:42
<alkisg>
Which option?
14:43
<vagrantc>
wait a minute
14:43
i think it doesn't require the option at all.
14:43
ah, qxl fails with 16-bit color depth
14:43
separate isseu
14:44* vagrantc checks the overlay issue
14:45
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i'm tempted to switch back to nfs only...
14:45
well, nfs by default
14:45
alkisg: i suspect it will be your job to convince me not to :)
14:45
<alkisg>
vagrantc: with fat clients, the "5 times faster" is a big deal...
14:45
<vagrantc>
true true
14:45
<alkisg>
Haha, sure
14:48
<||cw>
nfs++
14:49
be nice if someone could make kernel server perform better without using async
14:49
<alkisg>
vagrantc: also, ltsp-pnp will probably be unsafe with nfs
14:49
But it would make a good default for ltsp in general
14:49
(can't run the cleanup.d phase with nfs, at least not without snapshots...)
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19:16
<professor_>
oi
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19:51
<vagrantc>
ok, so ltsp-client-core just needs to depend on "init" hah.
19:51
<alkisg>
To chain to /sbin/init?
19:52
What does the kernel do, check for multiple files there?
19:52
<vagrantc>
it ensures that /sbin/init exists
19:52
it's just a chain of dependency packages
19:52
<maldridge>
one of the very few checks that will lead to an automatic panic if it fails
19:52
<vagrantc>
which ensures that /sbin/init points to something
19:53
the short of it is that "init" was removed from the "essential" set of packages
19:54
and so debootstrap --variant=minbase didn't install it
19:56
<alkisg>
Ah so no systemd at all there, ok got it
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19:57
<vagrantc>
well, 2 out of 3 times
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