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Channel log from 8 November 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<muppis>
I mounted hacked Lacie 2Big via nfs to server. Trying to mount those directories to nfs shared homes, but mkdir fails. Any hint?
02:40
mount --bind fails, symlink point to local directory, not to servers one.
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<muppis>
Ok, getting forward. Can put mounting nfs to thin's fstab as usually or is there any special place for this?
03:53
<alkisg>
muppis: NFS_HOME=server:/dir in lts.conf
03:54
..and NFS_HOME_OPTIONS
03:54
(if your ltsp version is recent enough)
03:55
<Trixboxer>
alkisg: hi mate
03:55
<alkisg>
Good morning
03:55
<Trixboxer>
good afternoon
03:55
<muppis>
alkisg, but does that mount for home dir?
03:56
<alkisg>
muppis: yes, you want some other dir?
03:56
<muppis>
Yes.
03:56
<alkisg>
I'm not sure if the existing fstab in the chroot is respected or if regenerated on each boot on the fly
03:56
Try it, and if it doesn't work, then you'd need to add some startup script
03:57
<muppis>
At least, file already exist. I'll try.
03:57
<alkisg>
muppis: at least on Debian/Ubuntu, I think it's regenerated:
03:57
ltsp-trunk/client/initscripts/ltsp-init-common: echo "/dev/root / rootfs defaults 0 0" > /etc/fstab
03:58
So you'd need to add or modify a startup script..
03:58
<muppis>
Ok, thanks.
04:01
<arthurl>
hi
04:01
I can't find references to configure-x.sh
04:01
is this deprecated ?
04:03
<alkisg>
arthurl: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/configure-x.sh
04:03
The CONFIGURE_X=True lts.conf directive is deprecated, but not the shell script which automatically handles that now
04:04
<arthurl>
alkisg, I can't get X_OPTION_01 to work...
04:04
alkisg, I want to force AccelMethod to xaa
04:04
<alkisg>
What do you want to put there?
04:04
Try X_OPTION_01='"AccelMethod" "XAA"'
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<alkisg>
If that doesn't work, then backslashes would be needed...
04:05
!lts.conf
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
04:05
<arthurl>
alkisg, have tried that already
04:06
<alkisg>
Another example there ^^^
04:06
<arthurl>
am using ltsp-cluster if that makes a difference
04:06
<alkisg>
So what do you get int xorg.conf now?
04:06
No idea about cluster, but check if your client xorg.conf contains what you put there
04:06
<arthurl>
i don't get any xorg.conf
04:07
<alkisg>
Try also adding CONFIGURE_X=True, but if that's needed, then it's a bug because it should happen automatically
04:07
<arthurl>
alkisg, added that too, with no effect!
04:08
<alkisg>
And maybe -cluster uses some different method to send lts.conf parameters, I've never used that but I think it's using something web-based...
04:09
<arthurl>
alkisg, am adding the properties in the web interface which gets downloaded in /var/cache/getltscfg-cluster/lts.conf
04:09
<alkisg>
So with getltscfg[-cluster?] -a in the client, do you see the setting?
04:10
<arthurl>
yes
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<alkisg>
What if you put X_MODE_0=<the mode you're already using> ? Are you getting a xorg.conf then?
04:12
<arthurl>
let me try that
04:14
still no xorg.conf!
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<alkisg>
Where are you looking for a xorg.conf?
04:15
Try ps -ef | grep -i xorg on the client...
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<arthurl>
/etc/X11/
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<alkisg>
I don't think it gets put there, I think it goes in /var/run
04:15
<arthurl>
wow
04:15
OK.
04:15
<alkisg>
Try the ps command above
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<arthurl>
/var/run/ltsp-xorg.conf
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got it
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<alkisg>
OK, so now check again without X_MODE_0
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...and paste the X_OPTION_01 line that gets there
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<arthurl>
do you know if caps on XAA matters?
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<alkisg>
No idea, I don't think so
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<alkisg>
Someone had posted a link where Finland LTSP installations showed up in a google map... anyone remembers the link?
04:34
<elias_a>
alkisg: Here: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=fi&msa=0&msid=108602642792299127542.00047c8e079f3cf3e9aa5&z=6
04:34
"I made this!" ;-)
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With a lot of help from my friends :)
04:34
<alkisg>
Thank you elias_a!
04:34
I think we'll make one for Greece, too
04:35
<elias_a>
alkisg: Please do that!
04:35
<alkisg>
Are you yourself putting all the pins? Or are the schools allowed to put their own?
04:35
<elias_a>
alkisg: The schools may put their own.
04:35
<alkisg>
Perfect!
04:35
<elias_a>
Actually - we could make a pan-European map :)
04:37
<alkisg>
Good idea! Could you provide a small how-to?
04:38
<elias_a>
alkisg: It is quite simple - you just create a map with some pointed entries and tell the folks to follow the same scheme.
04:38
I did have a mailing list that helped promoting.
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04:39* alkisg needs to go for a while, will read the backlogs later, thank you elias_a, I'll work on that soon!
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<cliebow>
sbalneav: How you doing??
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<rickogden>
hi everyone
08:50
for some reason, there is a huge lag when people are typing into the terminal when using LTSP. Has anyone come across this?
08:51
<robehend1>
rickogden: Never came across that, myself.
08:52
<rickogden>
it's strange, the resources are fine... but it's becoming near unusable when a large number of people are on it
08:52
<robehend1>
rickogden: Have you checked the LTSP server's hard disk? I've found that to be a bottleneck before
08:52
<rickogden>
I haven't, I'll do an IO/top
08:53
for some reason this only happens on LTSP though, if they use NX it's fine
08:53
<robehend1>
rickogden: Weird. You'd think it be the same between both..
08:53
<rickogden>
yeah exactly
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<robehend1>
rickogden: Is it only in the terminal, or all other programs as well
08:56
<rickogden>
it only seems to be terminal
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and it's typing
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<robehend1>
rickogden: odd.
09:02
<sbalneav>
Morning all
09:03
<robehend1>
Mornin
09:03
Say, do I have any fellow K-12 Educators in here, who wouldnt mind me picking their brains a bit?
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<mgariepy>
morning everyone
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<cliebow>
heay Mark!
09:22
sbalneav!!!!!
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<highvoltage>
morning cliebow :)
10:17
<cliebow>
hi..tou get back alright Jonathan?
10:18
morning btw!
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<highvoltage>
yep, safe and sound, had a good trip back
10:22
saw the snow get gradually more on the way back :)
10:22
everything good there?
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<cliebow>
yeah pretty good! piles of rain
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and wind
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<crazed>
what'st he best way to handle multiple ltsp servers?
12:08
i see there's som ldm clustering, is that the route i should look into?
12:10
<highvoltage>
crazed: ltsp-cluster is the way to go if you really want to go large scale
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<Blinny>
Ubuntu 8.04 Question - trying to run firefox as another user so I can muck around with their settings. Keep getting the "Cannot open display: localhost:17.0" message. How can I construct the command (sudo, su, xhost?) such that the app shows on my current TC display?
12:20
<Gadi>
xhost +; su <username> -c firefox
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should work
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<Blinny>
Bully. Cheers Gadi, thank you.
12:25
<Gadi>
bully bully
12:25
my pleasure
12:26
<Blinny>
Hrm. No love, same error. I'll read into xhost a bit.
12:26
And I'm just typing this into a standard 'ol gnome-terminal, yes?
12:27
<Gadi>
yup
12:27
but, maybe try:
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<Blinny>
Bummer!
12:27
<Gadi>
su -c 'DISPLAY=<thinclientIP>:7 firefox'
12:27
er
12:27
sorry
12:28
su <username> -c 'DISPLAY=<thinclientIP>:7 firefox'
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<Blinny>
That makes more sense. Just a local ENV. But still no love. $ xhost +; su $USERNAME -c 'DISPLAY=192.168.1.177:7 firefox' where .1.177 is my TC's IP yes?
12:30
<Gadi>
yeah
12:31
try: DISPLAY=192.168.1.177:7 xhost +
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and then repeat the su command
12:31
<Blinny>
xhost: unable to open display "192.168.1.177:7"
12:31
<AndyGraybeal>
what if i would like to cluster simply for high-availability (if one machin fails, the other own takes over)?
12:32
<Gadi>
is LDM running on screen 7?
12:33
<Blinny>
Yeh - ctrl+alt+f7 gives me my display.
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<Gadi>
Blinny: the issue seems to be in the SSH X forwarding - see: http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/ssh/ch09_03.htm
12:39
Blinny: if the user has access to your ~/.Xauthority, you could do:
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su <username> -c 'XAUTHORITY=~<you>/.Xauthority firefox'
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<Blinny>
TY ..reading..
12:48
I guess I could script a chmod in there
12:50
Ok right on. chmod'ing my home dir and .Xauthority does that trick.
12:50
<alkisg>
Blinny: alternatively, ssh -X otheruser@localhost firefox ?
12:51
<Gadi>
Blinny: keep in mind, by chmod'ing, you weaken your security, so you may want to change it back when you are done
12:51
:)
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<Gadi>
ah, alkisg bring up a very good point
12:51
:)
12:51
as usual
12:51
<highvoltage>
Gadi: I hate those web app install guides that start off with "Step 1: chmod 777 * -R"
12:51
<Gadi>
highvoltage: hehe
12:52* highvoltage know knows what Gadi's "hehe" sounds like
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<highvoltage>
*now knows
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<Blinny>
Dig the security issue
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12:53* Gadi realizes his "hehe" prolly keeps him out of the spy business
12:53
<crazed>
hm how do you get dual monitor support in ltsp5?
12:53
<cliebow>
Gadi: ever come across error 12 in openldap?
12:54
<highvoltage>
all my beeping devices keeps me out of the spy business :-/
12:54
<Gadi>
oh no! not error 12!
12:54
anything but error 12!
12:54
<cliebow>
never seen it before
12:54
<Gadi>
actually, no - cant say that I have
12:54
:)
12:55
<cliebow>
control unavailable in context..whatever that means
12:55* cliebow cliebow hears Gadi giggle 8~)
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<Blinny>
alkisg: Kickass.
12:55
Thank you Gadi, thank you alkisg
12:57
<Gadi>
crazed: what driver?
12:57
cliebow: what command did u execute to get that error
12:58
<alkisg>
Blinny: and if sometime you don't have the other user's password but you have root access, you can just copy your ssh id to his ~/.ssh
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<crazed>
Gadi: the thin clients are running nvidia
12:58
<cliebow>
it is a query from something called papercut..to sync accounts fro print services
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<crazed>
ah this is weird.. seems the default config in ubuntu has the thin client doing all the work
12:58
<Gadi>
crazed: you prolly only need to specify X_VIRTUAL in lts.conf
12:59
if it is not automagic
12:59
<crazed>
i just realized my bash prompts and various commands were running locally and not on the ltsp server
13:00
how do i change that? sorry if these are noob questions.. i got the task of migrating from our old ubuntu 7.04 system to a brand new one
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<Gadi>
crazed: u built a regular chroot or a fat client chroot?
13:02
<crazed>
should be a regular chroot
13:02
i used ltsp-build-image --arch=i386
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ltsp-build-client *
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<Gadi>
then, your gnome terminal should be on the server
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<crazed>
but the output is from the thin client
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because it's only showing 512mb of ram vs 16gb
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<Gadi>
when you type "free"?
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<crazed>
yes
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<Gadi>
that is odd
13:04
you are not in an ltsp-localapps xterm, are you?
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<crazed>
umm
13:04
how can i verify i'm not
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<Gadi>
launch a new gnome terminal from the applications meny
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*menu
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<crazed>
yeah it's definitely from the thin client
13:05
the hostname even returns the ws139 hostname
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rather than the servers
13:06
this would explain why somethings were running slowly hm
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<Gadi>
you didnt install ubuntu-desktop in the chroot, did you?
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<alkisg>
crazed: on the thin client, cat /etc/ltsp_fat_chroot
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Is there such a file?
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(or on the server, /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp_fat_chroot
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<crazed>
$ cat /etc/ltsp_chroot
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LTSP_CHROOT=/opt/ltsp/i386
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<alkisg>
No, fat chroot
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<crazed>
there's no ltsp_fat_chroot though
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<alkisg>
OK, then there's something *wrong* with your setup
13:08
You didn't install fat clients, and installing ubuntu-desktop wouldn't have caused local logins...
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<crazed>
hm
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<alkisg>
Are you using gdm with some local user?
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<crazed>
i'm using gdm
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and the user only exists on the server in the chroot
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<alkisg>
OK, that's your first problem :)
13:09
LTSP doesn't work that way.
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<crazed>
oh?
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<alkisg>
You need the default display manager, LDM
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<crazed>
it's installed
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<alkisg>
...and you don't need any users on the chroot
13:10
If you login with ldm, you login to the serer
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*server
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<crazed>
they only exist on the server then?
13:10
ah this makes sense
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<alkisg>
Yes
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<crazed>
when i first booted, it must have been ldm
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because the server user i had worked, but i had no wm installed at the time
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<alkisg>
How did you install gdm? It doesn't get installed by default...
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<crazed>
then i installed ubuntu-desktop and gdm was changed to the default
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<alkisg>
You need a WM at the server, not on the chroot
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So start again from scratch, it'll be easier
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<crazed>
just the chroot though right?
13:11
i don't need to reinstall the server?
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<alkisg>
Yes
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No
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<crazed>
good
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<crazed>
so, i need the wm on the server, not in the chroot?
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<alkisg>
Right
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<crazed>
installing ubuntu-desktop won't make gdm the default?
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<alkisg>
(unless you want to use fat clients, which is a different story)
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<crazed>
nah the thin clients aren't powerful enough for that
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<alkisg>
It'll make gdm the default for your server, but the chroot won't be affected
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<crazed>
ah! oka
13:13
y
13:13
things are making more sense now
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<crazed>
this is random and might not be possible, but how would you use nx to handle drawing X and stuff. basically i want server side compression before sending it down to the thin clients
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<Blinny>
crazed: Over a LAN? At what cost?
13:21
<crazed>
yes over a lan
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<Blinny>
Are you that starved for bandwidth?
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<crazed>
no
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i guess not
13:23
i just want things to be a fast/responsive as possible
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<Blinny>
Then you don't want nx.
13:23
Get your TCs running things directly on the server. You'll be pleased.
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<crazed>
right now it looks like i'm running everything on the tc
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should i run only certain applications locally?
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like web browsers
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<Blinny>
Right. Just stick to the defaults (everything on server), get that working, and then start experimenting.
13:24
Depends on your TC hardware and server environment.
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<crazed>
server's pretty nice, TC hardware is.. like 512mb ram and 1ghz amd athlons
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<Blinny>
I have 22 users on my local machine right now. 5-minute load is .5 I have no reason to go through the localapps hoops so I can't give a lot of info about that initiative.
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<crazed>
what's your machine look like specs wise
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<Blinny>
dual-proc quad-core machine, 8GB RAM with SCSI RAID-1 / and RAID-5 /home
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It's brilliant.
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<crazed>
nice
13:44
i got dual quad core with 16gb of ram
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raid 1, and nfs for home
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<mnemoc>
hi, where does tftpd-hpa log in ubuntu? (10.10)
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<crazed>
/var/log/daemon.log i believe
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<mnemoc>
crazed: yes! thanks :)
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tftpd-hpa doesn't follow symlinks, how anoying :<
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<alkisg>
mnemoc: there's an option to allow that
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It's not enabled by default for security reasons
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<mnemoc>
ic
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<Blinny>
crazed: With the obvious caveat of depending on how many TCs you plan to run, that server sounds like it should handle quite a bit.
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<crazed>
good to hear
13:56
probably about 10-20 per ltsp
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<Gadi>
it follows symlinks
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just need to be relative to the root
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<mnemoc>
ifcpu64.c32 -> /usr/lib/syslinux/ifcpu64.c32 was not been seen, not even when using --permissive instead of --secure
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I had to copy it to /var/lib/tftpboot directly
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<Gadi>
of course it isnt - because that's not relative
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<mnemoc>
-vv
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<Gadi>
but you could do: foo -> bar
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or foo -> ../bar
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<Gadi>
as long as foo and bar are in the same secured tftp root
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<mnemoc>
so ../../../usr/lib/syslinux/ifcpu64.c32 would have passed?
14:41
ok
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<Gadi>
if /var/lib/tftpboot is the tftp root
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then, anything under there can be symlinked to
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if you make the symlink relative
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because the client will only see /
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which is what makes it secure
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<mnemoc>
so the symlink is resolved by the client??
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<Gadi>
let's say you have:
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/var/lib/tftpboot/foo
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/var/lib/tftpboot/bar
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/var/lib/tftpboot/bar/baz
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the client sees:
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/foo
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/bar
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/bar/baz
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<mnemoc>
sure
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<cliebow>
bar/f;y
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<Gadi>
so, baz can be: baz -> ../foo
14:43
and that works just fine
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<mnemoc>
so the symlink is resolved by the client? or the server is impossible more security that what I want?
14:44
imposing*
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<Gadi>
but if you have: baz -> /some/unkown/path/outside/the/root
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then, it cannot see it
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<mnemoc>
i didn't know tftp passes symlinks as symlinks to the client
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<Gadi>
by the client
14:44
yeah
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<mnemoc>
I gave for granted it was resolved server side
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<Gadi>
the idea is that the client cannot go out of that secure root
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<mnemoc>
so baz -> ../foo will first fetch baz and then fetch foo, which is "wasteful"
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<Gadi>
I don't know that baz is fetched
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I think it will only feth foo
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*fetch
14:46
but, if you had: baz -> /tmp/foo
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you had better have a: /var/lib/tftpboot/tmp/foo
14:46
:)
14:50
<mnemoc>
it should follow symlinks regardless where they point as far as the unix permissions allow it, not try to be "over-smart" and fake a chroot
14:50* Gadi didn't write it :)
14:51
<mnemoc>
=)
14:58
<robehend1>
out of curiosity, do I have any other K-12 admins in here?
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<alkisg>
mnemoc: you'd need to remove "--secure" from the tftpd-hpa configuration file
15:21
This uses a chroot
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<mnemoc>
alkisg: I started getting "Forbidden directory" then
15:23
no idea what sort of self-castration tftp-hpa does, but the whole path is world readable
15:24
but i gave up on symlinks, copied over the files and added a line to the script that updates the chroots to keep them up-to-date
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<alkisg>
mnemoc: looks like a tftpd-hpa bug, when you don't use --secure then the client needs to specify the full path (e.g. /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf)
15:27
From the docs I'd assume it would prepend the TFTP_DIRECTORY by itself...
15:27
<mnemoc>
.oO
15:28
<alkisg>
Hmmm it does check the path though
15:28
So maybe this behavior is documented somewhere
15:28
(i.e. it doesn't allow reading stuff outside of the TFTP_DIRECTORY)
15:29
<mnemoc>
i understand that restricvtion in webservers where different people writes stuff... but tftp? that's root-only realm
15:29
<alkisg>
symlinks work fine though
15:29
mnemoc: imagine someone getting your /etc/passwd...
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<mnemoc>
only if root puts a symlink to /etc/passwd there
15:30
in that case, stupid root deserves the punishment
15:31
<alkisg>
I thought you were objecting to the directory checking... sure, tftpd-hpa does directory checking so I don't see any problems with its implementation except for the part where one needs to specify the full path
15:32
<mnemoc>
i'm ranting about the censorship to my absolute symlinks :)
15:32
<alkisg>
(which is probably just a documentation problem, not an implementation problem)
15:33
<mnemoc>
but as i wont write my own tftp, i'll have to accept hpa choices
15:33
<alkisg>
Well, using a chroot gives some additional safety in case an admin does an rsync -av or something without checking for symlinks
15:33
dnsmasq doesn't use chroots by default
15:35
Ah, there's the reason for the path thing: "Access to files can, and should, be restricted by invoking tftpd with a list of directories by including pathnames as server program arguments on the command line."
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<alkisg>
....so if it allows for multiple directories, that's why it uses full paths
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<mnemoc>
.oO
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<mnemoc>
never expected a sort of "unionfs" built-in on tftp-hpa :)
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<alkisg>
Heh, just directory checking when --secure isn't set... it makes sense after going through the docs
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<crazed>
whoops quit wrong channel
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<crazed>
how cna i change the login stuff for ldm
21:58
er.. how do i use pam_radius_auth with ldm
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oh it uses the same auth as ssh? if i'm reading this properly
22:05
another question, currently we have a system that shows available ltsp servers, you select one with the lowest load and it will connect you to that one
22:05
i have no idea what is controlling this, but would like something similar
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