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Channel log from 4 October 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<osl>
hi all , i am having this error: ""cannot open root device"<NULL"> or uknown bloack(3,70). Please append a correct "root" boot option .Kernel Panic - not syncing : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknow-block(3,70)"
06:23
can anyone help ?
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<osl>
??
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<ogra>
what distro/ltsp release is that ?
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<osl>
orga , it's mille-xterm , a project built on ltsp
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<ogra>
well apparently your initramfs doesnt know it should netboot
06:47
block(3,70) is surely not on the network ... thats what it searches for
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<osl>
orga , where can i start looking for a solution then ?
06:50
<ogra>
it the code that creates your kernel/initramfs or bootconfig
06:50
and check your dhcpd config
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<osl>
orga , the root path in dhcp.conf ir correct
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<cdealer>
hi
07:43
[ogra]:: the ltsp logs are under /var ?
07:44
<ogra>
depends
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<cdealer>
[ogra]:: and its possible to have a tmp folder separeted for each user ? like /tmp/user1 /tmp/user2 ...
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
08:00
cdealer: That's really not an LTSP issue, just a general linux setup issue.
08:01
cdealer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMPDIR
08:01
So, you can set something up in /etc/environment like mkdir /tmp/${USER} ; TMPDIR=/tmp/${USER}
08:02
but there's no guarentee that all programs will respect it.
08:06
<cdealer>
[sbalneav]:: Hmmmm thanks for the tip... its because we are having some annoyng issue with some tmp files permission
08:06
[sbalneav]:: I will give a try
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<cdealer>
sbalneav its normal to appear in env like this TMPDIR=/tmp/${USER}
08:26
<sbalneav>
No
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<sbalneav>
You've done something wrong.
08:28
<cdealer>
[sbalneav]:: I just add to the /etc/environment TMPDIR="/tmp/${USER}"
08:28
maybe without quotes
08:29
no work
08:31
<sbalneav>
Doesn't look like /etc/environment does variable substitution
08:31
stick it in /etc/profile then.
08:32
<cdealer>
sbalneav im addiing in /etc/profile
08:32
yep
08:33
worked now =)
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<sbalneav>
Odd that /etc/environment doesn't do variable subst
08:34
<cdealer>
sbalneavyeah, i didnt know until now
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<sbalneav>
Well, easily solved. :)
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<cdealer>
yeah
08:41
[sbalneav]:: but doesnt seen the ltsp is respecting the tmp dir set ed in the env
08:42
the files orbit-user and hsperfdata-user are still being created under /tmp
08:43
<sbalneav>
Like I say, that's absolutely nothing to do with ltsp.
08:43
log in on the console, you'll have the same problem.
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<sbalneav>
not all programs respect the TMPDIR variable.
08:44
<cdealer>
[sbalneav]:: hmmm
08:45
<sbalneav>
if they hardcode paths in the program to /tmp/whatever, as opposed to checking the $TMPDIR variable and respecting it, that will be the result.
08:45
I'm probably guilty of that in some of my programs.
08:46
The thing to do would be to sort out which program creates the orbit-user and hswhatever files, and file bug reports against upstream versions asking them to respect the $TMPDIR variable.
08:47
It'd be an easy fix for any program.
08:47
few extra lines of code.
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<sbalneav>
for instance:
08:50
the /tmp/orbit-* files are owned by the bonobo-activation daemon.
08:50
Lemme grab the source and have a look.
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<cdealer>
sbalneav yeah, im giving a look here and trying to config to the right paths
08:54
<sbalneav>
yeah, it's got things like this in it:
08:54
while (!g_file_test ("/tmp/orbit-go", G_FILE_TEST_EXISTS))
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So, that's a hardcoded /tmp path.
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<cdealer>
[sbalneav]:: this is not the big deal, at least it creates a folder identifing the owner, I hope other problems respect the path because some of day just create a generic file with only rw permissions for the owner(root) and this is the problem... I will look to see if this problem get solved now or I will have to dig into the code
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<cdealer>
the ltsp.conf file is read after rebooting the client or just need to logoff and logon again ?
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<Blinny>
cdealer: _I think_ just logoff/logon - A logoff restarts the XServer, and that's when lts.conf is read.
09:53
cdealer: I may be incorrect on that though.
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<cdealer>
[Blinny]:: ok, thanks
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<Blinny>
cdealer: Try it both ways and see.
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11:59* vagrantc nudges ogra to update the gutsy-ltsp branch
12:22* vagrantc notes that the TODO file hasn't been edited since 2005-12-05
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<cyberorg>
vagrantc, perhaps too many things to do so no time for TODO :)
12:34
<vagrantc>
i think many of the TODO items have been resolved since ...
12:35
and the ChangeLog has been edited *once* :)
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<joebob777as7_>
ogra or sbalneav you on? i'm having boot issues. taking me to a /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off screen
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<sbalneav>
on all machines?
13:04
Or just one?
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<joebob777as7_>
well i set up one as per ogra's instructions i don't have the rest of my machines yet. I made an nvidia chroot to install video drivers for this box on but the machine won't boot. I got it to boot from the right chroot though.
13:06
<sbalneav>
Well, no. Usually that message is from the initramfs not being able to mount the chroot.
13:06
So, I don't think you're mounting the chroot.
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<joebob777as7_>
oh ok...
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<sbalneav>
You're just sitiing in the initramfs
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<joebob777as7_>
so do you think my dhcpd is wrong?
13:07
<sbalneav>
Sorry, my crystal ball's out for repair.
13:07
But if you'd like to post it to the pastebot....
13:08
I could look at it :)
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<ltsppbot>
"joebob777as7" pasted "dhcpd.conf" (29 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/328
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<vagrantc>
joebob777as7_: can you manually mount /opt/ltsp/nvidia on the server ?
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<sbalneav>
ok, what's your inetd.conf file look like? And your "default" file in the pxelinux.cfg dir in the custom kernel you seem to be booting.
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/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/nvidia/pxelinux.0
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<vagrantc>
oh yeah, this isn't NFS ... that's why i backed out :)
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<ltsppbot>
"joebob777as7" pasted "inetd.conf" (45 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/329
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"joebob777as7" pasted "default" (1 line) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/330
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<sbalneav>
nbdport=${PORT}${PORT}?
13:14
THATS a problem
13:14
What's the ip address of your server?
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<joebob777as7_>
i haven't changed a thing... 10.0.0.1
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<sbalneav>
try setting nbdport=2001
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in the default file.
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<joebob777as7_>
sweet worked!
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<joebob777as7_>
thanks sbalneav !
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<sbalneav>
np
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<joebob777as7_>
sbalneav, i have another question: I have another server that is having some issues... It doesn't allow users to log off and only some users can print. this system is about a month old running gutsy but has been updated. should i just reinstall the whole thing or should it be fixable?
13:21
sadly i'm an hour away...
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<sbalneav>
Once again, my crystal ball is broken. What processes are running when the user logs out?
13:23
You can, I assume, ssh into this box?
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<joebob777as7_>
no haven't had a chance to set up dyndns yet. they can't log out at all when they click the log off button nothing happens. I know you probably can't solve it without me down there just wondering what i should check when i get there?
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<sbalneav>
I could type out about 50 things you could check. But there's little point. Better to wait until you get network access set up, or are on site.
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<joebob777as7_>
ok sounds good. thanks
13:25
you going to be on tomorrow about this time?
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<sbalneav>
I'm at work, but as a sysadmin, I don't know if I'll be at my desk or not. Ping me and see if I answer.
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<joebob777as7_>
ok sounds good thanks
13:32
sbalneav, do you know why when i try to enable compiz on this system it says no whitelisted driver found? i know you aren't into compiz just wondering?
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<cdealer>
[ogra]:: what you think about FreeNX, honest
14:26
no one ?
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<sbalneav>
What do you mean?
14:27
It does what it was designed to do ok.
14:27
It's not particularily well suited to LTSP.
14:49
<otavio>
vagrantc: uploaded simple-cdd
14:51* vagrantc wonders how many people in #ltsp have a clue what simple-cdd is :)
14:52
<otavio>
vagrantc: sorry
14:52
;P
14:53
<sepski>
cdealer, bloated comes to mind, :)
14:53
<cdealer>
well, Im studing all the possibilities and today a friend come withe the nx ideia, saying to be better them ltsp, so I hope that you could give me a true opnion about this
14:54
<sbalneav>
Well, better for what?
14:54
Better for accessing a machine on the other side of the planet, or better for a class full of 30 workstations?
14:55
<cdealer>
both
14:55
what he said
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<sbalneav>
He's set up a server with 30 machines doing NX into them?
14:56
<cdealer>
what he said is that he have a client running 100 clients
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<cdealer>
well, I have to ggo now... but later i come back so we can talk abotu this
14:57
thanks for now
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<sbalneav>
Don't bother
14:58
I don't care either way. Use his or use ours. I don't feel the need to compete :)
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<cdealer>
no no
14:58
isnt a competition
14:58
I want a techinical opnion
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<sbalneav>
No, you want me to either say his is better or mine is better.
14:59
All of this stuff is free: why don't YOU try both, and see what fits YOU better?
14:59
I know my solution, I don't know his, so I can't render an intelligent opinion on it.
15:00
If his works better, great. If mine works better, that's great too.
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<cdealer>
yeah, is what im going to do anyway, because i have to... but if I know that nx isnt better so I wont go to deep in nx
15:00
well, I like ltsp, spended a lot of time on it so far
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<sbalneav>
You may like NX more.
15:01
The whole point to Free software is choice :)
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<cdealer>
sure
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well
15:01
thanks anyway you are all very helpfull
15:01
cya later
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<sbalneav>
NP
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<sbalneav>
Heh, "Mr. Ford Dealer, I wonder if you could tell me if a Chevvy is better than your product or not?"
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What we cheifly need is for someone to sit down and make a head to head comparison between 40 workstations running stock ltsp, and 40 workstations running nx.
15:05
then any time this comes up, we could just point people at that.
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What would be best is if it was done by a disinterested third party.
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<rjune_>
!s
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<ltspbot>
rjune_: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<lns>
is there a specific place on the server client system logs are kept, or are they all kept on the clients in ramfs?
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
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<robbie>
hi jim
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<jammcq>
hey robbie
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