IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 4 March 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<insegnante>
hi, I'm trying to update chroot (kubuntu maverik 10.10) but I get the following error
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Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
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is installing dbus
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<alkisg>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/552404
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<insegnante>
hi, I'm markit from school
02:47
you are TOO fast dude
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<alkisg>
Hi, see the bug report, bbl, bb
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<insegnante>
ok, thanks a lot to alkisg, the fix worked fine, I would have been in real troubles
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(next time better backup chroot FIRST)
03:08
see you
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<jtwood>
Hello everyone, good day.
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<elias_a>
G'day!
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<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
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<vvinet>
good morning
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<damasceno>
I'm using Debian + LTSP. How can i enable the LTSP clients to use usb device, with flash drivers?
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My clients need to use flash drive in Thin clients... how can i enable this?
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<alkisg>
It should work automatically
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<damasceno>
alkisg, really? When i put the flash drive on usb, don't say nothing, and nothing work. I saw lsusb, and the flash drive device is not listed.
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<sameerthahir>
hello all, I am trying to use ltsp with debian squeeze, I am using a local mirror for access but am unable to specify multiple local mirrors using --mirror option, kindly help, thanks
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I am using ltsp-build-client script
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<alkisg>
I think they're separated with commas?
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<sameerthahir>
alkisg, thanks let me try
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alkisg, : nope not commas
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<alkisg>
sameerthahir: from Debian-functions:
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add_mirrors() {
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# feed a list of comma-separated or enter-separated mirrors,
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# add them to the chroot's sources.list
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<alkisg>
So it is indeed comma separated
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<alkisg>
What's your exact command line?
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<sameerthahir>
alkisg, one second
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<sameerthahir>
alkisg, http://pastebin.com/7wNpjrUQ
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<alkisg>
sameerthahir: I see you only pass one mirror, not many. And are you completely sure you have the ltsp-client package in your local mirror?
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<sameerthahir>
alkisg,
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alkisg, one second
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<pmatulis>
is there any way to limit a runaway client-invoked process other than by used memory (X_RAMPERC)?
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<alkisg>
sameerthahir: maybe you're looking for "--early-mirror add a mirror, which takes priority over the default mirror"
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<sameerthahir>
alkisg, let me try
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<sameerthahir>
alkisg, : It Worked !!! thanks
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alkisg, : thanks a ton :D
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alkisg, : LTSP client installation completed successfully \o/
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<alkisg>
;)
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<pmatulis>
is there any way to limit a runaway client-invoked process other than by used memory (X_RAMPERC)? specifically CPU usage?
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<Gadi>
pmatulis: http://linux.die.net/man/5/limits.conf OR http://ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html
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<pmatulis>
Gadi: wouldn't that (cpu) effectively give a process a lifetime? the process will still be able to suck up cpu usage. i.e. no peak usage can be set?
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<m4xx>
i'm some times getting the error "tftp: client does not accept options"
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<vagrantc>
never seen it cause a problem
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<m4xx>
the client gets the error "busy box unable to connect to the server"
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or something
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<vagrantc>
sure would be nice to figure out how to get it to stop making noise, since when people have other problems that's what we hear about :(
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m4xx: that "or something" would be nice to figure out :)
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<m4xx>
so you think that's a different issue all together
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sorry, it's hard to induce the error
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<vagrantc>
m4xx: the tftp client thing is just noise
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<m4xx>
it happens when it wants to
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<vagrantc>
?
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<m4xx>
that's what i've read, it's from getting the file size
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i guess
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wasn't sure if it was part of the issue
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if i'm understanding what i read, it connects to get the file size of the image or something, then cancels the connection resulting in that error
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<m4xx>
in googling i've found the error "Error: failed to connet to nbd server"
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<alkisg>
m4xx: you get busybox via tftp (along with the kernel + initrd)
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So the tftp part is done successfully
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Then it's network modules, nfs problems etc, but not tftp
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<m4xx>
in the same post it says to check that the ports in pxe conf and inetd.conf are the same
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they are
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<vagrantc>
the lts.conf is downloaded via tftp as well, no?
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: sure, I left that out intentionally to not get m4xx confused :D
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<m4xx>
any idea why i would receive that error then it goes away after i reboot the client?
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<alkisg>
What's the *exact* error message on the client?
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<m4xx>
error: failed to connect to the ndb server
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and drops to a shell
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<alkisg>
Then it's an nbd server problem
12:23
Are you using nbd or nfs? I thought you were using debian...
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<m4xx>
debian
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<alkisg>
By default it uses nfs
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Did you intentionally switch it to nbd?
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<m4xx>
i didn't change it to use nbd
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<vagrantc>
what did you change?
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<m4xx>
i installed nxserver
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*freenx
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<m4xx>
yes
12:41
i followed the wiki
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<vagrantc>
should've pulled in the nfs-kernel-server dependency
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dpkg -l 'ltsp*' nfs-kernel-server
12:42
which wiki?
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<m4xx>
error: /script/nfs-bottom/ltsp: line 47: cant create /root/etc/hostname: read-only filesystem
12:45
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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i followed everything after Installing on top of an already running desktop system
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<vagrantc>
m4xx: if you're using debian, you might consider following documentationm for debian :P
12:49
!debian
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "debian" :: is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
12:50* Gadi appreciates vagrantc's marketing
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<Gadi>
:)
12:51
<alkisg>
How much RAM did LTSP 4 need? Did it work with 16 MB? With 32?
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: 16MB, it hink
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<m4xx>
i'm using ubuntu
12:52
10.04 server
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sorry, it was wrong of me to say yes when you asked if i was using debian
12:52* vagrantc sighs and smiles
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<alkisg>
Cooool, I think I'll try to set it up some time
12:52
<vagrantc>
Gadi: what market?
12:52
alkisg: plan to become an expert retroactively?
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<alkisg>
Nah, just to reuse some labs with 32 MB RAM that we have
12:53
A wubi disk in their windows 95 installations => bam, instant ltsp clients :P
12:54
Erm. Never mind the wubi thing.
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<vagrantc>
heh
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<m4xx>
so eh
12:57
any ideas on how i can keep from getting this error?
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<alkisg>
m4xx: do you constantly get that error, or only some times?
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12:58Nick change: Ltsplogger -> ltsplogbot
12:58Possible future nick collision: ltsplogbot
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<m4xx_work>
even changed the location ie taking off one desk and putting it at another with an already working client
12:59
did you get my previous 2 messages?
12:59
<m4xx> yesterday we had a single client that it would happen to
12:59
<m4xx> no matter what
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<alkisg>
No, last think I have is:
12:59
(09:57:55 PM) m4xx: any ideas on how i can keep from getting this error?
12:59
(09:58:20 PM) alkisg: m4xx: do you constantly get that error, or only some times?
12:59Nick change: m4xx_work -> m4xx
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<m4xx>
i move the thinclient to another desk that already had a working connection as to rule out a faulty cable. that particular client continued to have the problem
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<alkisg>
And that client worked before?
13:01
<m4xx>
yes
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<alkisg>
And when did it stop working? After some update?
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<m4xx>
only security updates
13:02
they are both the same make/model thinclients though
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<alkisg>
It stopped working after a security update?
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<m4xx>
no
13:02
<alkisg>
When did it stop working?
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(how)
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<m4xx>
yesterday
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afaik
13:03
that's when it was reported to me
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<alkisg>
Was that after you run ltsp-update-image / ltsp-update-kernels?
13:04
Or it just stopped working, without you modifying the chroot?
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<m4xx>
stoped working with out midifying the chroot
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*modifying even
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<alkisg>
OK. Can you try some commands on busybox?
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nbd-client 1.2.3.4 2000 /dev/nbd0
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where 1.2.3.4 == server ip
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<m4xx>
grr why do i keep droppin
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ctrl+alt+fx to a shell to do that?
13:12
alkisg ?
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<vagrantc>
on the client where it's failing
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<m4xx>
i cant regularly reproduce the error. had them bring it back here and i tested it. it happened once but after a power cycle it seemed to work.
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<alkisg>
m4xx: then it might be an udev related issue, where nbd-client is called before the NIC is initialized
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We added some code to ltsp_nbd to try more times if the card is not initialized
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If you see it happen again try the commands above
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<m4xx>
will do
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thank you sir
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<pingpangqui>
hi alksig, hi Gadi and everyone else
13:45
I solved my login problem via ldm
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<pingpangqui>
I deleted the file .Xauthority .Xauthority-l and .Xauthority-c
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and everything was nice
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strange enough the -l and -c files were not created again
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but will still be created when I use the old .Xauthority file
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so if someone wants my old .Xauthority file for further investigation regarding the actually problem just tell me
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<m4xx>
alkisg awake?
14:31
Negotiation error server closed connection\n Error: failed to connect to nbd server ...
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#nbd-client 192.168.1.3 2000 /dev/nbd0 \n Nbd0 unknown partition table
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<markit>
hi ppl :) hi alkisg, your suggestion about the dbus updaet issue with related fix saved me this morning (you quitted before I could thank you)
14:38
btw, at school one client (before the upgrade) had a problem, this time I was present even short in time to investigate. The pc "froze", not black screen, just frozzen. In your experience, what is usually due to?
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(thin client with swap activated over NBD)
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