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Channel log from 6 October 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<acp_>
hi I'm using k12ltsp centos version, and my thin-client are i getting kernel panic. here is what I got from my message log 'Oct 6 13:59:44 server in.tftpd[3989]: tftp: client does not accept options' any idea why? is there a paste bin so I could paste my dhcpd.conf?
01:09
<loather>
acp_: that error is normal for most PXE stacls
01:09
err, stacks
01:09
acp_: try adding noapic to your kernel command line in pxelinux.cfg/default
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<acp_>
hi loather here is my dhcpd.conf http://pastebin.com/d1b0b167f where should I place noapic?
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<Ryan52>
acp_: in your pxelinux.cfg
01:17
that'll be somewhere in /var/lib/tftpboot, probably. run "find /var/lib/tftpboot | grep pxelinux.cfg" to help you figure out exactly where.
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<acp_>
found it let me try that, thanks
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<acp_>
Hi, me again same issue even I add the noapic in /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.cfg/default. here is the exact error I get when my workstation bootup http://pastebin.com/m6159b10b
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<acp_>
can any one direct me to a doc that would fix this error http://pastebin.com/m6159b10b, I been googling and I could not find any solution that is for k12ltsp-centos,please bare with me Im new to rpm base.
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<johnny>
which ltsp is included in that acp_ ?
02:49
<acp_>
I used iso from http://k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/DownLoad/K12LTSP-5.0.0EL-32bit-dvd.iso so Im not sure
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<johnny>
i don't know what the means
02:50
you'll have to use rpm or yum to figure out what you got
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<acp_>
mm, I run rpm -q ltsp seem that is not installed
02:54
<johnny>
it's not called ltsp
02:54
but ltsp is part of the name
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<acp_>
johnny, your asking me what ltsp version Im using?
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<johnny>
yes
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<acp_>
I think its ltsp-5 its included in k12ltsp iso
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<johnny>
ok.. good
02:56
just making sure
02:57
what network card do you have?
02:57
it sounds like a problem specific to k12 ltsp
02:57
that you should post to their mailing list tho
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since none of the fedora folks are about
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and i'm not very familiar with their initramfs setup
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and what cards are.. and are not included.. nor how to modify it
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i just know they use mkinitrd..
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<acp_>
One on-board its a nVidia Corporation MCP61 and and the other one is Realtek RTL-8138/8139C/813C (Server) on-board its a nVidia Corporation MCP61 (Clients)
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<acp_>
I'll do that and post my issue with k12ltsp
03:09
johnny, may you could help me with one more the reason why Im trying k12ltsp is that Im having problem with the sound in ubuntu using ltsp5 also. the sound in my client is to low I could not any more adjust the volume I already post this issue to the ltsp mailing list they said its a bug is there a patch that I could try?
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<johnny>
there's no official patch, but it might be easy to make oen
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or just wait til the end of the month and get the new ubuntu :)
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<acp_>
ok, thanks
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<v-pro>
is there a current documentation for lts.conf
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up to date I mean
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<johnny>
the next release will include more up to date lts-parameters
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the current one in ubuntu docs is slightly out of date
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<monteslu>
acp_, ltsp5 is not part of k12ltsp
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<cyberorg>
low sound issue is already fixed, warren committed improved Gadi's patch that allows setting levels using lts.conf variables
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how is it going johnny ?
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<johnny>
cyberorg, it is going OK
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could be better
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<acp_>
thanks for the info
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<monteslu>
acp_, should be part of what is "k12linux" though
03:39
does anyone know if 8.04 just uses gdm for the server login by default?
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i thought the thin clients used ldm
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gdm is hanging on me still
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<johnny>
server is gdm
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clients are ldm
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<monteslu>
i wonder if just backing up and replacing that binary with a simple echo "hello world" type script will get me to finish booting up
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<johnny>
huh?
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<v-pro>
johnny: is there a draft or something then?
03:42
<johnny>
v-pro, it's in bzr
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<monteslu>
johnny, gdm is hanging on boot for me, so i can't finish loading all services
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<johnny>
no.. replacing the binary won't fix anything
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<monteslu>
if I replace the gdm binary or edit its init script i can get passed it
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maybe
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<johnny>
really?
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it should break it
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<monteslu>
probably
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i don't know why anything is dependent on it
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or why the thing doesn't time out
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<v-pro>
johnny: I haven't used that :)
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<monteslu>
i cant even log in on tty1 when that thing is hanging
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or tty2
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tty1 actuallly has the init script messages :)
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upstart is killing me. It was easier when I could hit "I" durring the boot process and say y/n to individual services
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<franhp>
Hi! I'm having some trouble with a kernel (2.6.26) that I compiled using the ltsp_kernel_kit's initramfs script. it boots correctly till the point it has to run the dhcpd client, it just says "Error! dhcpd failed!" and though it has detected the network card, it just stops with a kernel panic, attempted to kill init.
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I'm running ltsp 4.2 in an opensuse based distro
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<cyberorg>
franhp, use ltsp5 please
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http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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franhp, you need openSUSE 11.0 for that
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<franhp>
I just started looking at it, but i'd like to solve the problem with 4.2 because the distro i'm using comes from the govt
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<franhp>
and it is quite old
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<cyberorg>
franhp, development on 4.2 has long stopped, lots of security issues among other things, it is unlikely you'll find someone who can help with that
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<Hyperbyte>
Hi... can anyone help me with getting sound working with LTSP5 under Fedora 9?
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<franhp>
cyberorg: ok, i'll just kill the catalan government :P
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<cyberorg>
franhp, :) what version is it based on>?
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<Hyperbyte>
I was told it should work out of the box, but everytime I try to play some sound using Gnome it tells me "failed to connect to stream: Invalid argument"
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<franhp>
cyberorg: Suse Enterprise Desktop 10 SP1 - though we call it Linkat
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<cyberorg>
franhp, http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/SLED10
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use ltsp5
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<v-pro>
Hyperbyte: which program did you use for testing?
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<franhp>
thanks cyberorg :D
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<cyberorg>
franhp, please add to that page with anything extra you need to do for getting ltsp5 working on linkat
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<Hyperbyte>
v-pro: Totem Movie Player it picks by default
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<franhp>
cyberorg: sure!
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<v-pro>
Hyperbyte: try testing with gnome sound config (preferences->sound)
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<Hyperbyte>
v-pro: also error. this time: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
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<v-pro>
did you try pulseaudio?
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<Hyperbyte>
It's set to auto-detect, but setting it to pulseaudio produces the same rror.
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*error
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(PulseAudio is default in Fedora 9)
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v-pro, anyway, I'm guessing there's something wrong with PulseAudio daemon and/or settings on the client... server seems fine to me...
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But I have no idea how to go about debugging pulseaudio. :)
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<v-pro>
http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Feisty/HOWTO:_PulseAudio
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I have used that as my check list
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<v-pro>
I had to add gstreamer plugin for my system. But I am just guessing here
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<Hyperbyte>
So should I do these settings on the client or on the server? =)
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<v-pro>
I did not do any changes to thin clients
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besides enabling the sounds from lts.conf
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but I guess that was by default
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<Hyperbyte>
Oh, it specifies paths as /opt/ltsp/ for client... sorry, I didn't read carefully enough.
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Bah... no luck.
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I can play sound on the client (from terminal using aplay), I can play sound on the server...
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It all -seems- fine, but apparently isn't.
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<v-pro>
have you checked you have all the necessary glue between pulseaudio and alsa
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<Hyperbyte>
Well, I wish I knew how to check this. :)
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<v-pro>
like pulseaudio alsa plugin
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<Hyperbyte>
This is the first time I use pulseaudio... have no idea how to debug anything...
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How do I check if it has that? It does have a package pulseaudio-compat-esound
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<v-pro>
I have only worked with Ubuntu so I cannot give that good help :(
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libasound2-plugins
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that is in hardy at least
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<Hyperbyte>
Hmm
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<v-pro>
but I have to go for lunch now, sorry
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<Hyperbyte>
Okay...
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<moldy>
hi
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my clients suddenly drop into busybox
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how should i approach debugging this?
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<moldy>
brb...
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<stgraber>
ogra: ping, you around ?
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<ogra>
stgraber, yep, any news from slangasek ?
06:57
(your list looked fine to me)
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<stgraber>
ogra: did you look at the two bugs I opened on LP ?
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<ogra>
yep, looked very clean to me
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just nominated them for intrepid and milestoned both
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<Hyperbyte>
mhm....
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<stgraber>
cool
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<moldy>
hi
08:06
my clients booted into busybox (i think mounting the root fs failed). a server reboot fixed it. any ideas what the cause could have been?
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<stgraber>
ogra: ping
09:11
can you upload: http://www.stgraber.org/download/ubuntu/italc/ ?
09:11
that's the same upstream but some additional fix for LTSP so shouldn't be a problem
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<stgraber>
ogra: hey, I know you are around :) can you look at that iTalc upload ? :)
09:44
<ogra>
yes, doing now
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sorry, had some compiz probs :)
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<stgraber>
great, thanks
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<nubae>
why would pulse audio not connect to its server with a access denied message?
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<sbalneav>
Morning all!
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<highvoltage>
morning sbalneav!
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<stgraber>
hey sbalneav
10:20
nubae: I pushed a fix for that (for the localapps)
10:20
nubae: try with: PULSE_SERVER=127.0.0.1 <application>
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<nubae>
stgraber: thanks, I managed to fix it adding default_driver=pulse in .libao
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<stgraber>
yeah, just saw that in #edubuntu :)
10:22
<nubae>
heh
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<ogra>
stgraber, i still dont get that, pulse was initially set to create a local unix domain socket, did anyone patch that out ?
10:23
local apps should automatically use local transport
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<stgraber>
ogra: I don't know but firefox didn't work out of the box and setting PULSE_SERVER=127.0.0.1 solved it so ...
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ogra: it's like if only the tcp module was there, not the unix one
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<nubae>
yeah I had the same problem in my fat client and its new, because it worked before
10:23* ogra checks the code branch
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<ogra>
-L module-native-protocol-unix \
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still there ... strange
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<stgraber>
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --exit-idle-time=-1 --disable-shm --no-cpu-limit --resample-method=trivial --high-priority -L module-detect -L module-esound-protocol-tcp auth-anonymous=1 -L module-native-protocol-tcp auth-anonymous=1 -L module-volume-restore -L module-rescue-streams -L module-native-protocol-unix -n
10:26
and seems to run on the thin client
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root@ltsp:~# paplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
10:28
Connection failure: Access denied
10:28
root@ltsp:~# export PULSE_SERVER=127.0.0.1
10:28
root@ltsp:~# paplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
10:28
root@ltsp:~#
10:28
if anyone has an idea what's going on :)
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<nubae>
heh, so there are at least 2 fixes
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<ogra>
probably module-native-protocol-unix what i think it does
10:29
*is not doing what
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<cyberorg>
stgraber, i had sent a patch for adding PULSE_SERVER=127.0.0.1 some time back
10:30
it must be somewhere on the ML, i needed to do that for localapps
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<monteslu>
hey, cool ubuntu people here this morning. I need some help
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<stgraber>
cyberorg: it's now fixed in ltsp-trunk
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<monteslu>
I'm stuck on "Starting Gnome display manager", been down for a week
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<cyberorg>
stgraber, fixed as in it does not require that variable or its added now?
10:31
<stgraber>
cyberorg: the variable is now always set to 127.0.0.1
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<cyberorg>
stgraber, cool :)
10:32
<monteslu>
looks like gdm is hanging, and it's keeping the thin clients from booting
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<stgraber>
monteslu: yo shouldn't need gdm at all
10:32
<monteslu>
I'm here at the lab, so if anyone has a minute to help me troubleshoot,
10:32
<stgraber>
*you
10:32
<monteslu>
stgraber, agreed
10:32
but upstart doesn't finish without it
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<stgraber>
you can try to: update-rc.d -f gdm remove
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<monteslu>
stgraber, cool. I'll try that
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<nubae>
monteslu: on the server or client?
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<nubae>
ah keeps thin clients from booting probably means client...
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<monteslu>
nubae, server
10:35
the server is hanging on starting gdm
10:35
thin clients on hanging on "negotiation:"
10:35
<ogra>
stgraber, i'd rather see us using the right plugin
10:35
<nubae>
ok... I sent an email to the list about where to look
10:35
<ogra>
than exporting PULSE_SERVER on the client
10:36
<nubae>
well setting .libao to use pulse fixes it too
10:36
<ogra>
both is wrong
10:36
pulse should just properly listen locally
10:37
without either workaround
10:38
<nubae>
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866965 - that has quite a lot of stuff about pulseaudio in intrepid, its where I found teh fix I mention
10:38
<ogra>
which i always thought the unix domain socket plugin would do
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<monteslu>
isn't it funny that you have a running count on how many things you've tried when working on a problem...
10:43
drive /dev/sda1 is checking for errors apparently i've mounted it 23 times
10:44
this is the 2nd or 3rd time I've seens this in the last couple of weeks :)
10:46
<nubae>
have u looked at .xsession-errors?
10:47
<monteslu>
Gonna do that next
10:47
was that your email?
10:47
<nubae>
yeah
10:47
<monteslu>
oh, thanks
10:48
which user would have those if gdm doesn't launch?
10:48
is it root?
10:48
<nubae>
no the user u try and launch with
10:48
u can get to gdm right?
10:48
or not at all?
10:48
<monteslu>
nope the service hangs
10:48
booting was stuck on "Starting gnome display manager"
10:49
<ogra>
is /var/run properly mounted ?
10:49
iirc gdm uses that
10:50
<monteslu>
not sure
10:50
I can't check. I can't even log in with tty2
10:50
it authenticates me, but never gives me a prompt
10:51
and the thin clients are stuck on "negoatiation:"
10:51
<ogra>
sounds like you are out of diskspace or some such then
10:51
<nubae>
or /tmp has the wrong permissions
10:51
<monteslu>
don't think so. I'll boot back to root prompt safe-mode whatever
10:52
what permissions should /tmp have ?
10:52
<ogra>
drwxrwxrwt
10:52
<monteslu>
what is dns-d avahi?
10:53
on restart that shows fail to shutdown
10:53
<nubae>
do u have a local dns server?
10:53
<ogra>
you mean mdns ?
10:53
<monteslu>
not on that box
10:53
right
10:53
mdns
10:53
message went by quickly
10:53
<ogra>
thats for local LAN discovery
10:53
<monteslu>
could that be a problem?
10:54
<ogra>
if you know the hostname in a net where avahi runs on all machines you can ssh hostname.local
10:54
it will automatically resolve
10:54
no, unlikely to be related
10:55
the gdm prob is likely due to gdm not being able to create its sockets or pid files
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<ogra>
which can happen due to a full disk, broken permissions on /tmp or /var/run or a readonly mounted filesystem (due to fs errors)
10:56
<monteslu>
/tmp is good, and I've got 72gigs free on /
10:56
lemme check /var/run
10:56
<ogra>
note that nowadays all systrms have: errors=remount-ro for /
10:57
<monteslu>
/var/run is drwxr-xr-x root, root
10:58
<ogra>
and is it mounted ?
10:58
<nubae>
I cant figure this out... I've got a file in cron.hourly, its got the right exec permissions and crontab has run_parts cron.hourly but the cronjob doesnt get executed
10:58
<ogra>
(its a tmpfs)
10:58
<monteslu>
yup
10:58
to varrun
10:59
<nubae>
the script thats in cron.hourly works fine when executing it and does what its supposed to, but crontab seems to ignore it, any ideas why?
10:59
I asked on #ubuntu and got no answer =)
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<monteslu>
i was thinking maybe X had something to do with this since gdm was failing, but startx worked fine from the root prompt
11:04
<nubae>
and when doing startx, u get a prompt and can login?
11:05
<monteslu>
just logs me in as root
11:06
<ogra>
how about doing /etc/init.d/gdm start at that prompt
11:06
<monteslu>
this is when I'm in recovery mode
11:06
<ogra>
what errors do you get ?
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<monteslu>
fired up
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<ogra>
so find the difference :)
11:07
<monteslu>
right.....
11:08
i have no idea which services are running in this recovery mode
11:08
I can try firing them up one by one
11:09
<ogra>
disable gdm and reboot in normal mode
11:09
<monteslu>
tftp must not be because the thin clients arent getting an image
11:09
<ogra>
then start it up manually
11:09
and see what errors it spits out
11:09
<monteslu>
I did that, but it can't log in even with gdm down
11:09
gdm disabled i mean
11:09
not even to tty2 or 3
11:09
<ogra>
sounds really like a filesystem layer prob
11:10
<monteslu>
could be
11:10
<nubae>
or permissions
11:10
<monteslu>
just which i knew why the filesystem seems ok in recovery mode
11:10
well, i'm root in recovery mode, so that might be a difference
11:10
<ogra>
right, that doesnt tell you much about normal mode
11:11
watch the boot closely (make sure to have quiet and splash off)
11:11
watch out for any errors during start
11:12
<monteslu>
I've updated the chroot and rebuild the image to hopefully get around the nbd junk that was pouring out into var/log/messages
11:12
just had the shcool shut down any thin clients
11:12
we have a lab of 30 and 4 in each class
11:13
<sbalneav>
nubae: Ugh! What happened to all the indenting in the manual?
11:13
<monteslu>
ogra, do you know the last service should be to fire up?
11:13
without gdm, the last thing in tty1 is cron launching
11:14
but I can't log in to see anything in var/log
11:14
<sbalneav>
monteslu: you'll probably want to set a root password for your chroot.
11:15
<ogra>
sbalneav, thats on the server afaik
11:15
not on a client
11:15
<sbalneav>
Right, you set the root password on the server, in the chroot.
11:15
<ogra>
(if not your chroot is horribly broken, there shouldne even be a cron installed)
11:16
monteslu, after cron there should be a message about rc.local
11:16
monteslu, could it be that you put any cron stuff up yourself ?
11:16
<monteslu>
it doesn't get to that
11:16
nope
11:16
this is pretty much a vanilla 8.04 install
11:17
<sbalneav>
Oh, he's having trouble getting the server up.
11:17
<monteslu>
sbalneav, right
11:17
<ogra>
"Running local boot script
11:17
s (/etc/rc.local)"
11:17
thats what S99rc.local writes if you are not in quiet mode
11:17
<nubae>
sbalneav: I've been editting it with oxygen office, did it mess up formatting?
11:18
<monteslu>
i took out quiet and splash
11:18
<ogra>
monteslu, looks like your cron is stuck with anyting
11:18
<monteslu>
are there any cron jobs by default?
11:18
Q-FUNK,
11:18
.oops
11:19
<sbalneav>
nubae: Yup, I just tried a merge from my copy about 4 weeks ago, to the current, and it's essentially "the entire manual conflicts"
11:19
<ogra>
yes, a bunch
11:19
<sbalneav>
There's no formatting to the XML at all now.
11:19
<nubae>
ooops... I did edit in xml format, but guess open office killed it
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<ogra>
monteslu, also can you paste your fstab to the pastebin
11:20
<nubae>
sbalneav: how were u editing?
11:20
<sbalneav>
VI
11:20
<monteslu>
wtf?!?!
11:20
it booted up
11:20
i didn't fix anything
11:20
<sbalneav>
monteslu: got any nfs mounts?
11:20
<nubae>
well, maybe u are out of ro mode ?
11:20
<monteslu>
sbalneav, nope
11:21
<nubae>
sbalneav: ok, I'll stick to vi then, just thought open office would be easier and would be ok, but obviously not
11:22
<monteslu>
there's a pastebin for this channel?
11:22
its not in the topic
11:22
<nubae>
pastebot.ltsp.org
11:22
<sbalneav>
!pastebot
11:22
<ltspbot`>
sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
11:23
<sbalneav>
nubae: It's ok, I'll just manually bring over the stuff I changed.
11:23
I'll branch off the current docs.
11:23
Gimme 20 minutes.
11:23
<ltsppbot>
"monteslu" pasted "etc/fstab" (9 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/20
11:24
<nubae>
ok
11:24
<sbalneav>
So, how do YOU edit it, I can do it the same way. What's oxygen office
11:24
Where does one get it?
11:25
<nubae>
openoffice on steroids, but open office has the xml docbook filters too
11:25
<monteslu>
maybe the thin client with the bad nbd stuff were killing the server with the i/O errors?
11:25
stab in the dark
11:25
<ogra>
looks ok
11:25
i really think you had a bad fs
11:25
or still have it due to a disk hw error ...
11:25
<monteslu>
ogra, then I wonder if I still do
11:25
brand new dell server
11:25
<ogra>
check dmesg
11:25
<monteslu>
3 disk raid 5
11:26
<nubae>
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop
11:26
<ogra>
monteslu, software or hardware raid ?
11:26
<monteslu>
ogra, hardware
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<ogra>
could easily be a wonky controller/driver
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<monteslu>
tons of stuff in dmesg, though nothing is screaming error to me
11:27
could I paset that?
11:27
paste
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<ogra>
the pastebot has no limitation afaik
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<nubae>
sbalneav: let me know what u think of the content too, that its written ok, and correctly
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<ltsppbot>
"monteslu" pasted "dmesg" (658 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/21
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<monteslu>
41 k worth of text
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<ogra>
sata ?
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<ogra>
i thought you said hardware raid
11:30
<monteslu>
it is a sata raid
11:30
<ogra>
ugh
11:30
<monteslu>
those bad?
11:30
<ogra>
well, software raid is usually faster and safer
11:30
depends on the controller though
11:31
<monteslu>
the dells have usually been good to me, but first time for everythign
11:31
<ogra>
but i havent seen many i would use in production other tan for speeding up a build machine in raid1
11:31
what chipset is that ?
11:32
<sbalneav>
eurgh, I'm not going to download an entire custom version of openoffice. I'll just deal with the lack of formatting in vi.
11:32
<monteslu>
not sure, I've been trying to gather hadware info, but the service tag is just giving me part nubmers
11:32* ogra recommends #ubuntu-server to monteslu for better expertise though
11:32
<monteslu>
should it be in lspci
11:33
<nubae>
sbalneav: normal open office has the docbook xml filter too
11:33
<ogra>
they usually know a lot more about server HW than i do
11:33
<ltsppbot>
"monteslu" pasted "lspci" (34 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/22
11:33
<ogra>
and might be able to judge if thats a good setup or not
11:34
07:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Dell PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 5
11:34
there it is
11:34
<monteslu>
might not be, but it was cheap for 8 cores and 16gb or ram
11:34
<ogra>
no idea about it
11:34
<monteslu>
but my time has countered it
11:34
<ogra>
well, ask the server specialists :)
11:34
they are better at that then me
11:34
describe the prob
11:34
<monteslu>
will do
11:35
but at least I can go to work now that the school is back up
11:35
nightmare of a week :)
11:35
or 3
11:35
i'd love to do this full time though
11:36
its the working 60 hours than dropping by here to help that kills me
11:37
well, thanks for all the help guys. I'll research that raid controller. If its the problem, I'll try switching to software
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<sbalneav>
Oh, criminy, it's changed from a book to an article... all the copyright headers have been removed. Crud. It's completely screwed up.
11:39
nubae: That openoffice filters garbage.
11:39
<nubae>
ok, I'll use vi :-)
11:40
<monteslu>
no mroe nbd stuff in /var/log/messages by the way
11:40
this should be promoted or whatever https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/277331
11:40
<sbalneav>
How much did you add under the openoffice?
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<nubae>
a lot
11:40
<sbalneav>
sigh
11:41
<nubae>
but I'll fix it, since I messed it up
11:41
<sbalneav>
hold on, lemme look at the revisions here...
11:41
<nubae>
ok
11:42
wasnt aware openoffice would mess it up like that, I thought doc book was standardised
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<sbalneav>
uff. What a mess. OK, got any outstanding changes you haven't pushed to ltsp-docs-trunk?
11:45
<nubae>
no
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<sbalneav>
Okiedokie, I don't want you to re-do all the work you did, so here's what we'll do.
11:46
I'll re-format the xml of the current docs, get it back into book format, and then merge in my schtuff.
11:47* vagrantc thinks sbalneav is *real nice*
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<sbalneav>
it's gonna take me a few hours, and it's just about time for lunch so I'm gonna bugger off for something to eat, then repush a branch.
11:47
Eh, not that hard. Formatting's easier to fix than re-doing content
11:48
I'm surprised openoffice does such a bad job of managing the XML
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<sbalneav>
Changed it from a boot to an article, COMPLETELY removed the copyright section. foop.
11:48
<vagrantc>
don't forget "append_revisions_only = True" in ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf
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<vagrantc>
should prevent most, if not all, of the accidental revision history rewriting
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<sbalneav>
okiedokie, set.
11:49
<nubae>
yeah I thought it looked strange in open office, but I just figured their xml implementation would be correct
11:49* ogra wonders ... sbalneav is changing boots into articles ? wow :)
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<sbalneav>
OK, off for lunch, no worries, we'll fix it up.
11:50
<vagrantc>
pretty soon we'll be documenting our sandals.
11:50* ogra saw people turning boobs into articles ... but shoes ?
11:50
<Gadi>
"a boot" is Canadian for "about" ;)
11:50
<sbalneav>
I'm certainly not against using a wysiwig editor, not everyone should be old school like me, but we should find a wysiwig XML editor that DOESN"T completely reformat the XML
11:51
Sorry, s/boot/book/g
11:51
:)
11:51
OK off for munchies.
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<stgraber>
ogra: any progress with iTalc ? :) (sorry but I'd really like to get rid of that PPA for my local setup)
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<jammcq>
hello friends
12:26
<warren>
stgraber: were ubuntu patches for italc submitted upstream?
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<warren>
stgraber: I heard from fedora packager that ubuntu has patches for auto-discovery
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<ogra>
warren, its just our package recommending/depending on the right things
12:27
warren, stephane works upstream on itlac stuff usually
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<warren>
no patches then?
12:27
<ogra>
ogra@osiris:~/Devel/packages/italc-1.0.9.1$ ls debian/patches/
12:27
00list 01_simplify_ui.patch 02_forcevisible.patch 03_username.patch 04_autoarrange.patch 05_fixdemo.patch
12:27
all UI level
12:27
stgraber, uploaded btw
12:28
warren, upstream 1.9x shoulod have full avahi support
12:28
(which adds what you call auto-disovery)
12:28
i think even 1.8x had it
12:35
err
12:35
1.0.9x and 1.0.8x
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<stgraber>
ogra: thx
12:37
warren: our current avahi support is done through a launcher script (python)
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warren: I'm waiting for upstream's plugin support to include that upstream
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<ogra>
ah
12:38* ogra wanst aware
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<sola>
some body help me..we are preparing a thin client n/w with ltsp on ubuntu server...the image prepared is with gnome desktop..any way to prepare client image w/o GUI..ie no gnome/kde desktops but devel packages like gcc,g++,mysql etc
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<jammcq>
hello friends
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<nubae>
sola: u can probably do that by editting the chroot with chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
13:02
and then removing/adding whatever it is u need
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<ogra>
grrr ... quilt ... grrr
13:06
<sbalneav>
Back from lunch
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<nubae>
so sbalneav, can u think of a wysiwig solution that wouldnt kill xml formatting?
13:14
perhaps gvim?
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<ogra>
whats differet to vi/vim there ?
13:15
<nubae>
it runs in a gui :D
13:15
<ogra>
apart from frames with gtk buttons around it ?
13:15
:)
13:15
xml should just die
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<nubae>
well if its never standardised i dont see the point either
13:16
<ogra>
but sadly the tools we use to produce ourput for the docs need it
13:16
*output
13:16
<nubae>
to convert to html I suppose?
13:16
<ogra>
you can generate html/pdf/ps/whatever from it
13:16
see the makefile
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<sbalneav>
Well, XML is standardized, and docbook's standardized, but if you have a tool that randomly converts from one dtd to another... :)
13:19
<ogra>
yeah
13:20
<sbalneav>
I'm just figuring out wether it'll be easier to pull stuff from your docs into mine, or completely re-tag all your docs.
13:20
hmmmmm, decisions, decisions
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<ogra>
http://www.vsubhash.com/writeups/multiboot_os.asp
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<ogra>
in case you didnt know yet :)
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<nubae>
lol
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<jammcq>
8 out of 10 terrorists use Linux
13:32
that's the crap that Microsoft is saying
13:32
<rjune_>
what?
13:32
<jammcq>
go to that multiboot site that ogra just pasted
13:32
there's a MS advert showing that
13:32
and if you use GNU/Linux system, you are supporting terrorism
13:32
<ogra>
jammcq, its a hoax
13:32
<jammcq>
ah
13:33
<ogra>
(a funny one i must admit) :)
13:33
as it *could* be real
13:33
<jammcq>
well, it wouldn't surprise me if terrorists did use linux
13:33
<rjune_>
jammcq: getting worked up are we?
13:33
<jammcq>
heh, just for a minute
13:33
<rjune_>
of course not, like everbody else, they want reliable computing
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<Q-FUNK>
monteslu: ?
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<monteslu>
Q-FUNK, dropped the keyboard and somehow autocompleted you're name :)
13:54
s/you're/your
13:54
can't blame the keyboard on that one
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<ogra>
it fell on the "Q-FUNK panic" button at the top right :)
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<sbalneav>
OK, got all the bad characters removed, now to fix up sect1 -> chapter sect2->sect1 etc.
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<sbalneav>
nubae1: Did you yank out then entire theory of operation section?
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<sbalneav>
Hmmm, well, got something that compiles.
14:13
Lots of formatting errors...
14:13* sbalneav digs in
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<sbalneav>
Criminy... whaaaaaaa
14:52
All the <screen></screen> elements are gone.
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<nubae1>
no theory of operation was moved
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<nubae1>
thought networking stuff should really come first
15:02
<sbalneav>
Ah, I see it now.
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<nubae1>
actually expanded that a bit I belive
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<sbalneav>
Anyone know how I can delete a branch of mine on LP?
15:19
I had a branch of the docs called ltsp-docs-sbalneav
15:19
I've created a new one called the same thing
15:19
I just want to hose the old one, and create a new one.
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<stgraber>
ogra: heh, cool. Just got the mail from Mark for upload rights to main let's just wait for the other :)
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<rjune_>
jammcq: you about?
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<loather-work>
hi
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<stgraber>
evening sbalneav
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<sbalneav>
Evening stgraber!
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<stgraber>
sbalneav: We have started testing one of these all new Atom-based thin clients with LTSP and Localapps, it just rocks !! :)
22:17
customers are just like "When can we get that working ???" :) (Flash fullscreen is something they are waiting for ... since they have thin clients basically)
22:18
<sbalneav>
Where can I buy one?
22:18* Lns_ sometimes wonders how Adobe got to have the "standard" web video/animation platform
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<stgraber>
we ordered the various parts on ncix.com
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http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30092&vpn=BOXD945GCLF&manufacture=Intel for the motherboard
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then you take a mini-itx case and a standard DDR2 RAM and you're done
22:19
ours cost something like 200$ with shipping
22:20
<sbalneav>
Hmmm, do any of the intel atom processors run fanless?
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<stgraber>
haven't found one yet, thought the fan on this one is a Pentium-1 like fan so nothing we could heard once it's in the case :)
22:21
<loather-work>
with a big enough passive radiator it'd be possible to run it fanless i guess
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<stgraber>
I'd think so yes
22:24
<Lns_>
Has anyone tried pico-itx w/ltsp?
22:25* sbalneav slowly gets the manual back in shape
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<loather-work>
yeah, i built an ltsp box out of an amd geode box
22:27
it wasn't fanless :\
22:27
it otherwise worked amazingly well
22:29
<stgraber>
oh, so you were lucky :)
22:29
the Geode based thin clients I have at the office don't work that well
22:29
clearly lacks of RAM (128MB shared with the video card), CPU really slow (64kb L2 IIRC ?) and the video driver I had to make a xorg.conf only for it so it works
22:30
the intel-based just boot and works, not a single setting to do for these :)
22:30
<loather-work>
this was a newer geode
22:30
had 512 MB RAM
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although i do remember having to hax xorg.conf
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<stgraber>
yeah, 512MB of RAM would be welcome, it'd probably make X to stop crashing with these :)
22:32
at the moment, you go to google maps, zoom-in a couple of time and X is no more
22:32
<loather-work>
ugh
22:32
but yeah, 128MB is tiny
22:32
<stgraber>
yeah, especially with 32 taken for the video :)
22:33
<loather-work>
pain :(
22:33
<Lns_>
stgraber: network swap doesn't help, eh?
22:34* Lns_ has an ltsp term 1220 pxe (via) and a koolu (geode) in his office
22:34
<loather-work>
1220s are great until you get them hot
22:34
i have a couple dozen of them in a warehouse in new jersey
22:35
lately i've been getting norhtec microclient sr. units
22:35
they're quite nice.
22:35
a little slow on the CPU side, but very capable units nonetheless
22:35
i still have to see if the sound is supported on it
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<Lns_>
loather-work: are they geodes?
22:36
<loather-work>
no, they're via C3s
22:36
512 MB RAM though
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selectable framebuffer size
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(i set mine to 128MB and main memory to 384MB)
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<Lns_>
wow, nice
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<loather-work>
http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcsr/index.html
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<Q-FUNK>
ogra: :D
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<Lns_>
loather-work: heh, already had that page up ;)
23:12* Lns_ kinda likes this mibbit.com irc client
23:15* sbalneav whimpers
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<Lns_>
sbalneav: docs giving you crap still?
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<sbalneav>
nubae: hey, still a loooooong way to go, but have a look at my branch.
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