IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 8 July 2012   (all times are UTC)

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<VectorX>
hi, where can i find instructions on isntalling on fedora 17
03:25
keep ending up with k12linux for fedora
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<VectorX>
hi, where can i find instructions on isntalling on fedora 17, keep ending up with k12linux for fedora
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04:03
<VectorX>
hi, where can i find instructions on isntalling on fedora 17, keep ending up with k12linux for fedora
04:03
also from what im reading ltsp doesnt work in fedora 17 is that correct ?
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10:50
<muppis>
Is 40 MBps good for ltspfs in 1 Gbps network?
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19:58* vagrantc ponders alkisg
20:03
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: so, i'm pondering the best approach to install ldm-themes ... could have a --themes commandline option and default to ldm-themes if ltsp-client is installled
20:03
well, if ldm is installed ... and a --no-themes option to override
20:04
no matter how i look at it, it's ugly.
20:04
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: that actually sounds more or less reasonable to me
20:04
<vagrantc>
could just blindly "apt-get install --no-install-recommends ldm-themes gtk2-engines-murrine
20:04
" if ldm is installed
20:05
or could install gtk2-engines-murrine with --no-recommends and let everything else sort itself out.
20:05
it's early in the freeze cycle... hopefully these could actually get through the release team.
20:07
hmmm... looks like gtk2-engines-murrine has more dependencies than i thought.
20:08
i've got another important bug regarding the udev rules for sound support being installed even when not running as an LTSP environment
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<highvoltage>
vagrantc: ok
20:17* vagrantc builds a chroot to play around with ideas
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20:38
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: what about having ldm-themes hard-depend on gtk2-engines-murrine, and then apt-get install --no-install-recommends gtk2-engines-murrine?
20:39
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: run "apt-get install --no-install-recommends gtk2-engines-murrine" before installing ldm-themes that depends on gtk-engines-murrine? sounds ok.
20:40
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: if ldm-themes depends on gtk2-engines-murrine, we can install it "apt-get install --no-install-recommends ldm-themes"
20:40
sorry, i mistyped
20:40
(the first time)
20:40
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: ok
20:41
vagrantc: I see what you mean. ok
20:41
<vagrantc>
although it's not so much worse to "apt-get install --no-install-recommends install ldm-themes gtk2-engines-murrine" until of course, ldm-themes depends/recommends a different engine
20:42
also need to handle if ldm-themes isn't available
20:42
i.e. squeeze-backports
20:43
ugh. what a mess.
20:43
all because of one wrongtious recommend.
20:44
two wrongs could make a wright. Breaks: murrine-themes
20:45
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: or... I just switch the ldm themes to not using murrine-themes anymore and try to find an alternative way of making them look nice?
20:45
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: that sure would be nice... given all the above mess
20:47
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: would I need a freeze exception for those changes? I guess it can be considered bug fixes right?
20:47
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: you'll need a freeze exception for anything to make it to wheezy at this point
20:48
<highvoltage>
ok
20:50
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: i can try and see if i can't make anything sane, too.
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<highvoltage>
vagrantc: turn off your dhcp server :p
21:18* vagrantc would be really surprised if that leaked onto the network
21:18
<vagrantc>
though it wouldn't be the first time
21:19
<highvoltage>
there was just an announcement asking whoever's running a dhcp server to please shut it down. I thought you might have heard it so I was joking :)
21:19
<vagrantc>
well, yeah, i did look :)
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<highvoltage>
stgraber: for my "add a preseed option so that ltsp-build-client can be called with --fat-client in d-i" work item, at least there's an introduction to d-i talk at debconf so it should help for that :)
22:52
<stgraber>
highvoltage: sure, though I doubt you'd need that ;) that work item is really just about adding 5 lines to debian/ltsp-client-builder.templates and 2 lines to debian/ltsp-client-builder.postinst :)
22:52
(defining a new key in debian/ltsp-client-builder.templates and calling db_get + if-statement in the .postinst)
22:53
<highvoltage>
stgraber: ah
22:54* highvoltage copies and pastes that into a tomboy note anyway
22:56
<stgraber>
highvoltage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081969/
22:56
haven't tested, so you'd at least need to test it and make the description look nicer :)
22:57
oh, and propbably check what it does when you don't have internet access, in theory it "should" work, but would be best to ensure it doesn't depend on anything that's not on the media
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<highvoltage>
stgraber: ok
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23:16
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: any progress on reworking the ldm-themes ?
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23:17
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: "yes"
23:19
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: oh!
23:19
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: well, "yes" as in, I'm setting up a VM to do it in :)
23:20
<vagrantc>
heh
23:20
highvoltage: anything in the gtk2-engines package would be ideal, since ldm already pulls it in
23:21
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: ok, cool
23:22
<vagrantc>
so there are a handful of engines to choose from
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<highvoltage>
vagrantc: "mist" is very simple but I think it looks good
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<vagrantc>
highvoltage: with these joy based themes the stuff in the lower corners are hard to read...
23:59
highvoltage: i.e. the clock, the "hostname" thhe preferences menu
23:59
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: really? it's almost white on black!
23:59
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: i seem block on dark grey
23:59
black on dary gray