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anyone know how to install firefox addons globaly in chroot?
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anyone know how to install firefox addons globaly in chroot?
chroot as in firefox as a local application?
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I've read some mozilla docs on making settings work globaly
you should follow them, there are no special things you have to do just beacuse you're running LTSP
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so if I run "firefox --global-install addblock.xpi /firefox/addons" that will work?
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Every once in awhile I boot one of my fat-clients, and it never comes up. What I see on the screen (because I took out quiet and entered nosplash), is the following two lines repeating peridocially:
INFO: task lspci:400 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
"echo 0> /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
Now, I don't mind disabling the message, but I'd rather the system boot properly :)
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hi alkisg :) will you be online tomorrow morning? I will bring back the server to school and try again the login of clients. Would love have your help in the unfortunate case it does not work
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Is there a way to run smartcard readers on LTSP clients?
markit: hi, we've just uploaded the new sch-scripts so you may tell dgroos to update his version if you want
I'll be online for some hours...
it's 22.36 here, what time is it there?
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ok, what time is better for you tomorrow?
I mean, feel free to do whatever you want, just to know when I've the most probability to meet you and not busy
After 15:00 local time I'll be online, mostly...
I'll be writing a sch-scripts presentation so no problem, ping me whenever you want
oh, I'll be at school in the mornint (11.00 of your time), at 15.00 I probably will be happy or have committed a suicide, lol
...but remember that there are others here that can help too :)
sure, but I'm not good in making new friends.. ;)
alkisg: in any case, as far as I've understood, having disable nbd-proxy can never be the reason of login troubles
I may be around before that too, just not sure...
I've tried here at home with also a gbit switch in between, and boots and logs like a charm
so I'm optimistic
Yeah, nbd doesn't have anything to do with logins
alkisg: btw, are you aware of any way to force ssh to send traffic in clear, just for debugging purpouse?
would love to wireshark the traffic and see exactly what the client sends when tries to log
but is, of course, crypted
There once was a "null cipher" patch that could be applied to ssh, but I've never tried applying + compiling it
ok, I dreamed about a "ssh_clear" package or something like that
But even that was after the login, so it wouldn't help you...
ok, I'll see what will happen tomorrow
k, good luck
alkisg: btw, dgroos never sent me the email with the translation... do you have his email to give me in private?
so I can ask him for the new version translation
It's on that mailing list link I sent you a while ago...
I don't have it handy
ok, don't worry, I will find him
keep the good work on sch-scripts without further distractions ;)
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Nah, end of day here, I've finished half an hour ago :)
any "what's new" I can understand?
is it a bugfix? New features? KDE support? ;)
No, KDE is out of the question :)
One "easy to understand" is mass user creation: http://users.sch.gr/alkisg/tosteki/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3005.0;attach=1896;image
+automatic packages installation for primary, secondary etc education levels
is user list loaded from a csv file or entered directly in the application?
It's autogenerated, the teacher just provides the names of the classes + the number of pcs
and does "promote" students from first class group to second etc. when needed?
We have another tool for importing/exporting users to .csv
Nope, that will be done in future tools - we have until the next september for that :)
alkisg: don't remember if I've already asked you, do you use ACL and some dir with rw permissions for teacher and students as well?
and also, do you have only one "teacer" account like I have (the "administrator" for ubuntu), or one for each teacher?
The teacher has 2 folders for each class, one read only where it puts assignments, and one read-write for the kids to collaborate
The students see those on their desktops with symlinks
One for each teacher, but in 90% of the cases there's only one teacher...
mmm how can you provide "superuser" power to multiple accounts? is there an easy way in ubuntu?
sure, just make them administrators from the user management tool
It's users-admin on gnome, I think kuser on kde?
I've only command line
sudo usermod -a -G admin teacher2
does this "management tool" be in ubuntu?
oh, I see theacher belongs to multiple groups
plugdev lpadmin etc
so is just a matter to add to all those groups and add also in the sudoes list?
No need to modify the sudoers list
Just add the teacher to the admin group either with kuser or with the usermod command I wrote above
and is the teacher able to read/write student's home folder, or the student have to "push" his work in tha shared, common folder? there is the risk another student can modify/erase...
I think that have many teacher's account is a good idea, so no one can mess other's work
teachers are not very proof in IT here
For the teacher to modify the students files, he'd need to use his admin rights (e.g. sudo etc)
Or, you could change the umask appropriately and put him on the students groups
alkisg: home dir are created with the group with the same name of the account
there is no a "students" group
as primary group of the student account... I have to understand this stuff much better I guess
never really used GNU/linux as multiuser until now, only some basic (shared) samba stuff
There are many ways to organize those things, read up a little and choose whatever suits you better
I think Lns had written some wiki or blog page about ACLs, they worked for him
I've found a wonderful video in ubuntu ltsp page about acl, just have to try it
I don't use them, I don't have need for them yet
but your experience is invaluable to "how to do the right things"
Nah, I'm fairly new to linux, only 3 years experience
alkisg: not for the shared folder? I'm surprised
Others here have been using it for decades...
because if a user created a file, it's rw-r-r
With the default umask yes, but you can change that
sure, but this messes ALL the created files, not only in the shared folder
that's where ACL comes in, since you can define in a "folder" basis
Right, and sometimes it's a good thing
E.g. some teachers don't want the students to be able to see each other's files
So, they use rw-rw----
that's good, right
...and the teacher has write access through the group
as I said, I've plenty of things to learn from you :)
I'll try this solution asap, thanks
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alkisg: rw-rw---- seems not correct, since all students belong to the same primary group "students", with that mask everyone can read/write other's files
did you meant rw-------?
Well, one easy way is to add those students as the teacher secondary group
So each teacher has access to the students he teaches
Another way would be to use the class group as the student primary group, but then the other students of the same class would also have access - you probably don't want that
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markit: so, student "user1class1" has primary group "user1class1", and the teacher has secondary groups for all those students "user1class1, user2class1 etc"
maybe I've not clear the role of secondary groups... because I think that if students belog to "teacher" group, the risk is that they can read/write where only teachers should be allowed to
That's one way to do it... there are million others
alkisg: I would love to do as you do, in the beginning :)
No, the teacher would belong to the user1class1 group. Not the other way around.
I've to make it work soon, and many time to make it better, but a wrong start means a lot of work (and upset users) later
yes, misunderstood your "add those students as the teacher secondary group". But add maybe an hundred of students(group) to teacher seems not fine to me
It works though :)
(since each student has also a group with the same name, correct? or you just create with "students" group directly as primary group?
The way I said it above, no, each user keep his own primary group
If you put all of them to the same "class1" group, then they'll have access to each other's files
or, the teacher would need to use admin rights to access them
sorry, missed those lines, was deepling thinking about abstract consequences
now I read carefully
ACLs make group organization much easier, sure, that's why they exist
was thinking the same thing
I.e. give access to the teacher but not to the students
I'll try them tonight
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What I'd like is the teacher to NOT have access to rw------ files on the students dir (e.g. ~/.ssh, passwords etc)
I don't know if ACLs can do that..
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hmm, why is it that the automatic boot just keeps counting down over and over without booting?
by the way, kiwi ltsp
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Is there anybody out there?
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