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What's a good book on LTSP?
are there any?
the documentation in the topic is all i know about
or the documentation on the ubuntu wiki
ball, ltsp is evolving too fast to write a book about it atm i think..
any book would be obsolete by the time it came out
a book written 3 months ago wouldn't have mentioned the new local applications support for example
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Hmm... I suppose that makes sense.
perhaps in the next year it will be stablilized somewhat
i'd suggest reading the docs in the topic
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what is the advantage of using LTSP 5 and not the LTSP 2
what is the advantage of using LTSP 5 and not the LTSP 4.2
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for one, LTSP 5 is supported and ltsp 4.2 isn't
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sound is much easier to get working in LTSP 5
and local devices
4.2 supported local devices
but Nubae is right that the code has been refined since 4.2
5 also will have better support for new graphic cards/chips in the clients
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5 also is now getting support for local apps
then there is local apps, fat client, ltsp-cluster
so, 4.2 is arguably simpler, but by that same token, it is less capable
I guess the biggest advantage is that ltsp 5 is now an upstream project as opposed to a distro
yes, much more easily applied to whichever distro you want to run
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how i remove ltsp 4.2 for my debian ?
because i want to install ltsp 5 now
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how i remove ltsp 4.2 for my debian ?
because i want to install ltsp 5 now
WeeD_, not sure, I'm not a debian person
the best person to ask would be vagrantc, but he's on the west coast of the US, meaning he's probably still sleeping
ok.. but i dont know purge ltsp 4.2 any distribuiton
ok.. but you dont know purge ltsp 4.2 any distribuiton?
with 4.2 much/most of the code was contained in /opt/ltsp
you might be able to just remove that
rm -r /opt/ltsp resolved?
but I think the dhcp stuff is different, so you may want to remove the dhcpd package
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but my server LTSP is dhcp server too
oh, then don't remove dhcpd package
do you have two NICs in your server?
ex 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.200
in ltsp 5, some of the stuff that used to be in /opt/ltsp gets moved to being under /tftp, which varies by distro
that may be more difficult to make work with a single NIC in 5
It is for Fedora, which I use; not sure about Debian
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for a printer attached to a client, do I need to do anything besides put a 'PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/lp0' line in lts.conf under the MAC address of the thin client?
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doh! nm, configured wrong server
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I should be able to telnet to port 9100 on the client which has a printer connected to it, right?
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stgraber, you mentioned putting NX onto a laptop or netbook and connecting over wireless to the LTSP server
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was that a custom image on the client? or just a stock version? or something else?
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you could use any distro minimal install to do that
after installing NX of course..
yeah, we have a minimal Ubuntu for that
basically a debootstrapped system with X and an init script to start X and NX
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stgraber, is that documented anywhere?
petre: nope, we don't have any customer using it so it was just quickly done as an experiment and not documented. It's basically: debootstrap Ubuntu 8.10 on a ext3 usb key, install ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard, install Xorg, install NX (binary taken from nomachine), make rc.local to do a dhcp request and start X+NX. Then setup grub and you're done.
it's very similar to a LTSP chroot actually
ok, that gives me an outline of the steps, which is good enough
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ok, back to printing: I cannot telnet to port 9100 on the client that has the printer attached
any suggestions what to look at?
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wish there was a 'lsusb' command on the clients
so put one there
actually, I did, right after I typed my lament
and it sees the printer
should I see jetpipe or similar in ps -ef on the client?
I suspect that is what is missing?
I have no clue
i've been out of the loop too long
I fooled around with jetpipe but that was at least year ago, probably longer
jetpipe being a deamon it should be running yes
I have never used it though
hmm, I have a /usr/bin/jetpipe
but when I try to load it I get an error:
"File /usr/sbin/jetpipe, line 40, in <module> import serial
ImportError: No module named serial"
do you have python-serial installed ?
or whatever it's called in fedora
no, and yum lists no such package
I've got a setserial package
for setting serial ports
but that's probably not what it's looking for
and pyserial ?
ah, pyserial looks promising
yeah, pyserial is the upstream name for python-serial
ubuntu/debian tries to call python-<the thing you import> instead of using the upstream name for all python modules
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but the upstream for python-serial is pyserial so it should be what you need
why don't they just use the upstream name?
it's easier to list all the python packages on the system looking for python-*, I suspect python-support and python-central (things used to handle python modules) also use sort of need that naming
hmm, still failed, same error
dinner time, bbiab
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how do I edit the size of the folders of users of the ltsp?
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elisboa: fala portugues?
au nao fala portugues
jammcq: pode me dar uma dica?
au fala um poco de portugues
boa noite jammcq
that's about all I know :)
jammcq: how do I edit the size of the folders of users of the ltsp?
size of folders?
folders of users
users that the system
umm, that's a basic Linux question. Maybe you need quotas
yes, i look this http://beginlinux.com/server_training/126-linux-terminal-server/1057-managing-users-in-ltsp
but, you know a front-end for this?
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Limiting Disk Space with Quotas
i need a graphical editor for this
that's what you need
how i do?
I've never used quotas
so I don't think I can help
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I'd like to know how to install soft under ltsp-thin-client
vagrantc: "release" is please mention the linux distro and release you're using :)
Now,when I using ltsp-update-image,it doesnt work
I was confused with the /opt/ltsp/i386 and the original system.
I changed the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.local file,but it does not work.
could you help me/
lbs: so you edited /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.local and ran ltsp-update-image ?
I just want to run x11vnc and let the thin-client-manager work
did that give you an error?
It gives nothing.
and I cannot connect to thin-client's x11vnc.
but in ubuntu 7.10,I did it.
I don't know whether the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.local run when logon into the thin-client.
i don't either
i use debian, which has a different init system from ubuntu
You met the same problem?
never had any such problem, debian works very differently
no ltsp-update-image, different init system, and i've never tried to use x11vnc
why?You don't need to manage the thin-client?
or use iTALC or thin-client-manager?
Who use ltsp under ubuntu?
lbs: debian still uses NFS rather than NBD, so ltsp-update-image isn't needed.
lbs: simply chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install YOURFAVORITEPROGRAM
but some soft has a service daemon,how can I run it under thin-client?
such as iTALC,a kind of classroom management tool.
It has a service daemon and use the port 5900
If I didnot apt-get install it under chroot,I also can run it manually under thin-client.
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lbs, thin-client-manager is broken
and the x11vnc part will be removed
it is broken.. and will stay broken.. italc is the preferred solution
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johnny:but Now the thin-client-manager is very simple.
it will be simpler :)
if you want to fix it.. i suppose people will be happy, but there is nobody currently interested in fixing the x11vnc problem, as the program is not maintained by anybody
but how can I install iTALC ON THIN-CLIENT?
I have read the wiki help
and I have some questions
johnny:How can I make my start_ica script to run when thin-client user logon?
Now,when the thin-client user logon. I manaually run the script start_ica.
and in the iTALC master interace,
I cannot connect to thin-client use the localhost:11168.168 is the thin-client ip.
i have no idea
i've never used either
please don't private message somebody
unless they asked you to do so
other people here use italc, but i assume they are all asleep
try coming back later
altho.. the weekends aren't the best time to get help either
usually the weekdays, during the daylight hours of usa and europe
i know many things about ltsp .. just not at all related to its educational usages :)
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dear johnny,I see,many thanks.
to you.have a good weekend.
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