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Channel log from 27 November 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<dkostousov>
Hi.
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<alkisg>
Hi
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<dkostousov>
How I can manualy logout user from server?
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<alkisg>
Do you have italc installed? It has such a function.
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<dkostousov>
Should I install italc on server?
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Hm... Fedora have no package italc
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<alkisg>
In Ubuntu all you have to do is install the italc-master package. Then you can see the client screen, log them out, execute commands on them etc.
02:06
http://italc.sourceforge.net/
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<dkostousov>
hm...
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<sep>
dkostousov, kill his processes. pkill -u might help you
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<dkostousov>
thx
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<alkisg>
Isn't that too brutal?
02:12
I.e. might mess with the filesystem?
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<sep>
user processes does not access the filesystem directly. and regular kill (iow without -9) is more a "hay process. can you please quit now, pretty please) :)
02:15
the user will loose unsaved data ofcourse !
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<alkisg>
And doesn't the order of killing the processes matter?
02:18
E.g. what happens if you kill the ssh process first?
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<ftherese>
the wiki.ltsp.org documentation upstream seems to be down
03:34
what documentation should I look at to get a network scanner working on ltsp?
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<cyberorg>
ftherese, https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Main_Page
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<ftherese>
cyberorg: "Scanners (Page does not exist)"
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<cyberorg>
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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<ftherese>
I've looked through the documentation and cannot find mention of network scanners for ltsp... please help
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<Appiah>
the documentation is being moved
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try google cache or looking in the /usr/share/ltsp-docs?
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<ftherese>
anything I can look at for the time being? I have already searched through the documentation here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ltsp/files/Docs-Admin-Guide/LTSPManual.pdf/download
04:34
I can't find any mention of scanners
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<Appiah>
what are you trying to do?
04:34
scanner attached to thin client?
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<ftherese>
network scanner
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<cyberorg>
ftherese, that has nothing to do with ltsp, just follow instructions about network scanning, configure ltsp servers as client for scanner, all ltsp clients will be able to use that
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<vicd>
i'v got 2 scanners working in my network
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attached to clients
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<sbalneav>
ftherese: I added some hooks for network scanning a few months ago, don't know if they've made it into release
08:54
Morning all
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<[R]>
hey
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<nicku>
hi
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<[R]>
so i'm trying to get this working... and in the ubuntu init scripts it makes a call to 'ipconfig'
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and it hangs and all i see in wireshark are a million dhcp requests and my server isn't doing anything with them
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<[R]>
if i force the params to ipconfig then i can make it work... but i dont want to have to do that
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is there somerthign configured wrong in my dhcp server?
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<alkisg>
version?
14:22
(ubuntu version)
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[R], also post your dhcpd.conf to pastebin:
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!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
14:23
<[R]>
oh its ubuntu 9.10
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and i'm actually using dnsmasq as my dhcp server
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<alkisg>
Ah, then your dnsmasq.conf misses some entry. Can you post it to pastebin?
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<[R]>
http://ltsp.pastebin.com/m49a9092
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<alkisg>
See this for an example: cat /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/dhcpd-dnsmasq
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Are you forcing ipconfig to be used? ubuntu 9.10 by default uses udhcpc...
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<[R]>
in the init scripts
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it runs ipconfig
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right after it does the udhcp
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which is a little wierd
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i did check out that exmaple, and added everyhting from there i dindt have, but that didnt seem to fix it
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<vagrantc>
typically, ipconfig is run from the initramfs, not from init scripts...
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<alkisg>
How do you see that it runs ipconfig?
14:27
Can you post the exact messages?
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<[R]>
i mean initramfs
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well i was sticking echos and such in the initramfs code
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but if i must... lemme get the message
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<alkisg>
[R]: ok, if you tried putting echos, can you point me to the code where it calls ipconfig after udhcpc?
14:30
Because that shouldn't happen in *any* case...
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<[R]>
hrm
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well i'm actgually using hte mythbuntu stuff
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maybe that has a bug in it then
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<alkisg>
mythbuntu has a different initramfs than ubuntu?
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<[R]>
for he mythbuntu diskless stuff
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they have their own script that runs instead of the regular nfs one
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i mena the regular nbd* one
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<alkisg>
Ah, I don't know about that then, maybe there's some incompatibility between the two
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<[R]>
i could probalby just use the normal ltsp scripts instead of the special mythbuntu ones
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but if i'm looking at scripts/ltsp_nbd
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<alkisg>
The ltsp initramfs also gets lts.conf, and some other ltsp-specific stuff
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<[R]>
the first thing it does is call configure_networking
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<alkisg>
How would you pass lts.conf with the mythbuntu initramfs?
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<[R]>
mythbuntu doesnt use lts.conf
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oh i see... in configure_networking if the interface is alreayd configured... it doesnt do the ipconfig call
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<alkisg>
Erm.... so this isn't an ltsp setup? It's a mythbuntu thing?
14:34* alkisg has never used mythbuntu
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<[R]>
well it uses the ltsp stuff
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but i'm just gonna try a regular ltsp and see how it goes
14:34
another question though
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my ROOTSERVER is being set to my dhcp server's ip
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i can't figure out what i need to put in my dhcp config to make it put out the ip i want
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is that part of the lts.conf?
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<alkisg>
You can put nbdroot= as a kernel parameter
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(that's in pxelinux.cfg/default)
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<[R]>
yeah, tahts what i'm doing now
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i want to avoid that if i can
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<alkisg>
Can you paste that line from your pxelinux.cfg/default?
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And, why would you want to avoid that?
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<[R]>
because it should figure everyhting out automatically
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without me telling it what to do
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<alkisg>
You mean that you'd like to be able to put nbdroot in dhcpd.conf instead of pxelinux.cfg?
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I don't see much difference there...
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<[R]>
technically there isn't
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maybe i'm just being stupid
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lol
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anyway, thanks for the info
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i think i'm good
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<alkisg>
I didn't see any code that would take a different ROOTSERVER from dhcpd.conf
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<alkisg>
But what kind of option were you thinking to send from dhcpd.conf? A custom one?
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<[R]>
well the dhcp server is setting ROOTSERVER from some value
14:38
is it always just its ip?
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<alkisg>
Yes, it's the ip of the dhcp server
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<[R]>
oh... ok
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well, thanks
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<alkisg>
np :)
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<alkisg>
How "cross-distro" is ConsoleKit? Would calling its `restart` d-bus method be cross-distro enough?
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<kaos01>
hi, how do I go about rebuilding the initrd image ?
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<sbalneav>
kaos01: initrd? or ltsp image?
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<kaos01>
initrd which gets loaded from teh tftp server
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<kaos01>
as im having problems in the network side gettign a DHCP address, so i like to modify it
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<sbalneav>
then use the initramfs-tools in the chroot
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<kaos01>
its the initrd in the PXE process i think i need to modify, as my clients can DHCP, download image via tftp, but than the second DHCP never succeeeds
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can i just expand initrd with cpio, make changes than re-assemble it with cpio ?
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all i want to try is to place a sleep before dhcp happens
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<sbalneav>
I'd use the tools.
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
21:35* vagrantc waves
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<sbalneav>
Hey vagrantc
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: when you hosting a hackfest in winnepeg? :)
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<sbalneav>
I could, if people were interested. I haven't got anything cool like my own business or freegeek, though. :(
21:48* vagrantc spent a couple days in winnepeg last millenia in february or so
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<sbalneav>
heh, bad time to spend in Winnipeg. :)
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