IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 9 July 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<sbalneav>
Morning all
08:42
<highvoltage>
morning sbalneav
08:42
<Lumiere>
!s
08:42
<ltspbot>
Lumiere: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:43
<_UsUrPeR_>
morning
08:43* _UsUrPeR_ yawns
08:45
<Vonor>
ok, this is going to be ridiculous, building the ltsp chroot failed and without a resome option i have to do it all over again? it took me from yesterday 10pm til now (3.45pm)
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<ogra>
Vonor, its getting tiring to repeat that several times a day, yes, you have to
08:46
<sbalneav>
Vonor: Better way to do it is to use an alternative cd.
08:46
<ogra>
Vonor, probably johnny has a reciepe to work around it on gentoo
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<Vonor>
ogra, i know, if you read again i did not ask if there's a way to resume this time :)
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<sbalneav>
Oh, this is on gentoo?
08:47
<ogra>
sbalneav, he uses gentoo, so compiles the world ...
08:47
<sbalneav>
ah
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<ogra>
might be that its possible to do resuming on gentoo, i dont know when or how configuration is done
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<Vonor>
it totally sucks, virtualbox 3 being rediculous slow, it took even hours to build the kernel
08:48* Lumiere avoids gentoo like the plague for production...
08:48
<Lumiere>
compiling is a pita
08:48
<ogra>
the prob in the binary distros is that configuration is done all the time, if gentoo builds first and does config later it might be possible to stop/start in the build phase
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<Vonor>
well, johny isn't there right now, so i'll wait for him
08:50
Lumiere, nothing wrong with getoo for production, usually you run it on real hardware and not on virtualbox. compiling takes a little longer than a binary install, but having he packages optimized for your needs and your hardware is imho worth it...
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<Lumiere>
Vonor: I don't like the idea of compiling anything while a box is in production
08:51
<Vonor>
Lumiere, then compile it on another box and tell emerge to use the binary package you created, not much of a hassle either
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<Vonor>
to be honest, i eventually wouldn't install gentoo on a client's box when migrating them to linux, simply for the time it takes to set it up. i'd be afraid of losing that client if it takes too long. however, on my systems, production or not, i use gentoo and nothing else :)
08:54
other distros only in virtualbox
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
hi #ltsp
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<Lumiere>
hi
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<johnny>
testing a patch
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<Guest66373>
testing
09:25
yay.. i can tab complete
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<bieb>
Anyone here have CrossOver installed on their LTSP server???
11:03
<Blinny>
Sorry, nope. Use OOo.
11:03
(I mean, I use..)
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<sbalneav>
bieb: Have you tried to set it up yet?
11:05
<bieb>
Scott.. I have .. I was just curious if people are pushing it out as a local app.. and if there are any things to watch out for
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<sbalneav>
Ooooh, I doubt anyone's tried that as a localapp.
11:06
I'd leave that on the server anyway.
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<bieb>
ok
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<sbalneav>
unless you've got high powered workstations.
11:07
<bieb>
not yet
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<sbalneav>
then you DEFNINITELY don't want to try running a wine app locally
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<bieb>
I will reinstall it on the new server today.. I had mentioned to you the other day that I thought it put the files in an odd spot.. and you had suggested possibly having to install it for each user..
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<sbalneav>
Possibly, but I suspect you could set up a common "Program Files" heirarchy to put it in, and just create symlinks in the users drive_c dir
11:10
I know I did that for Quicken and ChildView here.
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<bieb>
ohhh
11:10
you running Wine for Quicken?
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<sbalneav>
Yes.
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Quicken and ChildView
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<bieb>
what does ChildView do?
11:12
<ogra>
watching yor kids ? *g*
11:12
<sbalneav>
http://www.childview.ca/
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<bieb>
ok.. cool.. I know in some law schools they have "time management" programs for clinics, and the last school I worked for had a Child Advocacy program.. so wasn't sure if Childview did something like time management..
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<maginot>
good afternoon =)
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<GGD>
hello i hav a question about fedora's ltsp
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can someone show me the way as a young very young jedi
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i have a f10 box and i would like to confiure the LTSP for it
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<bieb>
sbalneav: Scott you around?
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<GGD>
is anyone arond :D
13:38* Lns wakes up
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<GGD>
sorry lns
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<vagrantc>
GGD: i haven't seen warren around as often lately, but he's the main ltsp fedora developer.
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<treyh>
hey gyys
13:46
*guys
13:46
I'm trying to get a couple dell optiplex sx270's to work with my ltsp server
13:46
anyone have any experience with them? i found a lot of links requiring special config for them with ltsp 4.x but nothing with 5
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<GGD>
roger that vagrantc
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<sbalneav>
bieb: I am now
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<treyh>
anyone around?
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<treyh>
i have a unit that came up in 640x480 resolution using the vesa driver, I tried increasing it to 800x600
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but wouldn't come up
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any other drivers you might suggest for me to try
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it's a dell sx270
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<johnny>
that doesn't help
14:07
it's the video chipset that matters
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<treyh>
I'm trying to crack the case open now, it's a mini and proving to be difficult lol
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<johnny>
that wo'nt help
14:07
just do lspci
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or lshw .. which will give more details
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install it in the chroot and then boot off of it
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after updating the chroot
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either that.. or use a livecd
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<treyh>
ok I get it
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<treyh>
find the video chip
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find the drivers
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install the drivers in the chroot
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try booting again
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<johnny>
the drivers are probably already there
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but we won't know
14:09
the only drivers MOST people have to install in the chroot are nvidia and/or ati
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<GGD>
question for anyone here
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<johnny>
most other drivers are actually in the kernel
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<GGD>
could i "build" a boot OS to specific specs?
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<johnny>
altho not all f course
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uhmm.. sure
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why not
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but for what purpose
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<GGD>
you mean me johnny?
14:10
<bieb>
sbalneav: I just sent you an updated sabayon error file..
14:10
<treyh>
johnny: are there any other generic ones I could try for intel?
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<johnny>
yes GGD
14:11
treyh, look for the chipset please
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first
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before anything else
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that is most important
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<GGD>
well i have a f10 server that i want netboot a OS that enccompases that server and the apps that are on it
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<sbalneav>
bieb: Still crashes?
14:11
<johnny>
GGD, sure.. just serv / then :)
14:12
<bieb>
sbalneav: I have Crossover installed.. then installed Office07... the options for office dont show on the clients.. there is a .cxoffice dir created in the users home dir
14:12
<johnny>
and edit the boot menu
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<GGD>
what do you mean?
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<bieb>
sbalneav: yeah it still crashes
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<johnny>
err build a pxe boot menu from the pxe docs
14:12
GGD, you can build whatever you want
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<GGD>
oh ok
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<sbalneav>
bieb: which user did you install it under?
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<treyh>
johnny intel 845
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<bieb>
sbalneav: the ltspman user that I created in my AD, he is an admin
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<johnny>
treyh, then the intel and/or i810 drivers should do it
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that is all the drivers there are
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are they loaded?
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<johnny>
i810 got renamed to intel in more recent distros
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<treyh>
johnny: so are those drivers already loaded? should i set xserver = intel ?
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<treyh>
I'm running jaunty
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ubuntu jaunty
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<johnny>
treyh, check the xorg.conf
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err Xorg.0.log
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treyh, usually don't have to do anything.. it should load the proper drivers
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<johnny>
if it doesn't, you're gonna have to go to console and read the log
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and see what driver it is choosing
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<treyh>
intel
14:17
!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
treyh: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<johnny>
is it choosing intel?
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<ltsppbot>
"treyh" pasted "root@ltsp:/var/log# cat Xorg.0" (195 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/440
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<johnny>
this seems to be the problem
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go look this up
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(WW) intel(0): Unable to find initial modes
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<treyh>
k
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<sbalneav>
bieb: And if you log in on a thin client as him, is it there?
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otavio: Boa Tarde
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<treyh>
johnny: darn it, same problem is fixed in fedora 11 but not ubuntu 9.10
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<johnny>
well get their fix :)
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<treyh>
the issue is that instead of hooking directly to the unit with a monitor using a dvi connection, I used an adapter from dvi-to-vga converter
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<johnny>
ah
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<treyh>
you have to pass a kernel boot option lol
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<johnny>
ok at least you know what is wrong
14:33
so good for you
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<treyh>
:P
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<bieb>
sbalneav: I am back
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<Lns>
Hey guys over in #debian their bot can be /msg'd for pastebins...we should do that too!
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<vagrantc>
Lns: what do you mean?
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<Lns>
vagrantc: basically someone could " /msg dpkg biglongstringoftext" and the bot would paste it directly to a pastebin and reference the link in the chan
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so you wouldn't have to go to the pastebin site yourself
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<vagrantc>
ah, nice.
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<Lns>
yeah, thought that was cool
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<sbalneav>
hm
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Ours is a supybot
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Wonder if there's a plugin
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<johnny>
Lns, i prefer stuff like wgetpaste
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cat somefile | wgetpaste
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doin it myself
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actually i think it can take files directly
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<Lns>
neat
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<stgraber>
pastebinit does it too
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"something | pastebinit" or "pastebinit <somefile>"
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supports a few of the most known pastebins
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(and it's in Ubuntu)
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<atomic007za>
hi
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is there a way to let agroup/user login with certain programs/icon showing and another group not?
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in LTSP on ubuntu?
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<Lns>
atomic007za: try searching for edubuntu-menus
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<atomic007za>
will do
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thx
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<bieb>
Later peeps
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<sbalneavbb>
Cripes, now I have irc on the blackberry.
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I better be careful, I'm gettin' all Web 2.0 here.
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<sbalneav>
Can I see myself?
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<stgraber>
sbalneav: got yourself a blackberry ?
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<sbalneav>
Had one for far too long :(
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<jammcq>
hey friends
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<sbalneavbb>
let's see if irc works from the cottage
22:34* vagrantc waves to sbalneavbb
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<sbalneavbb>
hey hey
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<vagrantc>
bb?
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<sbalneavbb>
the dorkberry strikes again
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blackberry
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<sbalneavbb>
I downloaded an irc client for it
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