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Channel log from 27 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<lapinmalin>
Hello, I use LTSP4.2 and Local Device. When i insere a usb stick it is recognise by the WS and a directory is created in /tmp/drives/ but this new directory is empty. I've triedtwo usb stick.
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<lapinmalin>
new test : if on the WS i do a "mount -a" the usb stick is mounted !!! Why the mount isnt do automatically ?
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<fantomas>
Hi. Would someone recommend a minimal linux distro which is good for booting remote stations. Except LTSP.
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I don't need client-server functionality - just need linux to run some linux tests and games
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I've created one from my Debian etch installation but its no way a minimal one :)
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And making it was a pain
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<fantomas>
nice
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<lapinmalin>
Hello, I use LTSP4.2 and Local Device. When i insere a usb stick it is recognise by the WS and a directory is created in /tmp/drives/ but this new directory is empty. I've tried two usb stick.
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new test : if on the WS i do a "mount -a" the usb stick is mounted !!! Why the mount isnt do automatically ?
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<mistik1>
I am no localdev specialist but I believe the drives only mount when you access them from the desktop side
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the daemon checks every few secs for mount request
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I believe the docs say as much
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<Jenna>
lapinmalin, : add the user to "fuse" group before using any usb drive
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<_EXP>
which would be better for ltsp server: 2x3GHz Xeon FSB800 or 2x3GHz Xeon dual core FSB677?
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<envite>
Hello everybody! I'm back home, at last
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so
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¡Hola a todos desde España!
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<cliebow_>
envite1
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<envite>
Hello cliebow
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<lapinmalin>
thanks Mistik1. But, for each WS i have two screens : one for a X server et one for a RDP connection. And if i want my usb stick on Windows, i need to mount it on ws.
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I only test it on WS and on RDP connexion. Because i've got aonther pb for that : i use FREEBSD for the Applications Server
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<cliebow_>
s/1/!
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<Jenna>
lapinmalin, there is a package available that lets u mount usbs/them in windows as well
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<lapinmalin>
Jenna, where can i find this package and what is his name ?
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<Jenna>
ltsp.org
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<Jenna>
wait lemme get u the name
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Gadi developed it
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lapinmalin, LTSP-RDP-localdev.tgz
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lapinmalin, http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/symbiont/LTSP-RDP-localdev.tgz?download
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<lapinmalin>
Thanks Jenna. I try now...
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<Jenna>
ur welcome
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<erdinc>
hi everyone
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<Jenna>
hey erdincy
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<a5benwillis>
G'morning everyone
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<Jenna>
hey a5benwillis
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<a5benwillis>
Jenna: Hello
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<lapinmalin>
Hello a5benwillis
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<a5benwillis>
So what's everyone up to today? Im still working on LTSP issues.
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<cliebow>
a5benwillis, i got a "cough" windows server to put in at Trenton..last of six to run mms...a sparc server to test out
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<cliebow>
check backups in 12 schools
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<a5benwillis>
ooh windows fun today
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I sopent six hours in a school yesterday afternoon doind packet traces to find out why we were having slow logins. Fun afternoon :-)
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<lapinmalin>
I try... After install, i've got a new directory in the WS : /Drives. But when i insert USB Stick, the name of the key is always a directory in /tmp/drives/ Nothing on the RDP connexion (yes i modifie the lts.conf)
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<a5benwillis>
lapinmalin: Sorry I cant help, I havent started using devices in LTSP yet
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<cliebow>
a5benwillis, so novell directory server?.i like ldap because the logging can be so profuse..
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lapinmalin, id guess sbalneav and Gadi will be around shortly..Gadi i thin has done the seminal work on usb sticks and sound via rdesktop
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<a5benwillis>
I wouldnt mind LDAP. Infact I use it on the novel side already for contextless login. But to use it to authenticate linux I'll have to populate each user with a unix uid, gid and home directory attribute. I have over 16,000 user accounts.
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<cliebow>
a5benwillis, i script those things
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<lapinmalin>
clebow, thanks. I use the sound via RDP and it's working. "Only" the usb key problem
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<a5benwillis>
cliebow: Do you script during account creation? Please elaborate.
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<cliebow>
yes..pretty simple really..i build a csv with username year of graduation..password using perl or bash to create it ..then run the cvs through a script that uses a known good ldap record as a base..with one common password for all students...because
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smbPasswdMustChange is set to 0 it forces pw change at first login
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from windows..i also have a piece that inteerupts linux login if that same field is set to 0 and prompts for password change
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<a5benwillis>
cliebow: Sounds pretty slick. I also have all of these accounts in AD
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Cliebow: But the users home directories allexist on novell servers. So I could authenticate against AD but I would still need to log into NDS to mount the HD.
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cliebow:Im still testing xdmcp this morning. Hopefuly I can get it working soon.
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<cliebow>
Hope so..Has to be something trivial
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i know squat about mounting nds
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
Morning
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<envite>
Morning
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<a5benwillis>
morning jammcq and sbalneav
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<Lumiere>
hi jammcq, sbalneav
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<jammcq>
hey Lumiere
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how ya doing?
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<cliebow>
Lumiere:!!! hi!
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<ogra>
sbalneav, pingediping .... about your jetpipe changes for serial printing ... beta release gets nearer and i'd like to merge that in if you have anything
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<sbalneav>
ogra: jammcq and I are meeting on Thursday. I'll get that stuff to you this weekend.
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<Lumiere>
hi cliebow
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<Lumiere>
I've been sick all weekend
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<cliebow>
yecch:it s going around here too
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<Lumiere>
I was supposed to be at pycon this weekend
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<cliebow>
usually a fun time?
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<MoL0ToV>
hi to all! i have a set of client that not have pxe boot eprom on the network controller. exist a way to make a partition of some megs that contains pxe spefific for my network card, load and run it?
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<Lumiere>
working the sprint for schooltool/cando
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<ogra>
sbalneav, thanks a lot, i wouldnt like to have to point out regressions in the release notes :)
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<sbalneav>
:)
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<Lumiere>
my old school district has it's high school students writing competency tracking software
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and it's seriously impressive
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cando.schooltool.org
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<lapinmalin>
morning
09:08
I come back with my usb stick problem : when i insert a usb stick in the WS it's recognise with a new directory in /tmp/drives/ but this directory is empty. From RDP connexion i see this empty directory. From X applications server (FreeBSD) ican see anythink !
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<sbalneav>
lapinmalin: So, it works from X?
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<a5benwillis>
sbalneav: Im reinstalling my server this morning to try xdmcp, again.....
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:-)
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<sbalneav>
Why re-install?
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<lapinmalin>
no, it doesn't work from X !
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<sbalneav>
Have you followed the checklist?
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!checklist
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "checklist" is The checklist for debugging problems with local device access is at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting. Please work through all 12 steps, record the results, and paste the results to the pastebot at http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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<a5benwillis>
since I never could get xdmcp to workI figured I would reinstall afterall of the changes I had made trying to get NDS authentication working.
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<lapinmalin>
it's ok til point 6
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Resume points 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 OK
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point 7 : how i install fuse with FreeBSD
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<sbalneav>
Dunno.
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That's for YOU to figure out.
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I don't even know if fuse is supported under FreeBSD
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<lapinmalin>
Other test : if i do : mount -a on WS, i can see the content of the directory ON the WS and on RDP connexion
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<zald>
how do i bind the ltsp workstation ipaddress per user account?
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<sbalneav>
I don't support local devices over RDP
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Mainly because I don't have any RDP stuff here to try it out on.
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<lapinmalin>
ok, so how can i do a mount -a automaticaly when a usb stick is insert ? Or is it stupid ?
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<sbalneav>
Well, you'll have to get fuse working first.
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But all of the binaries on the web page for the ltspfs stuff have been compiled for linux, so you'll have to re-compile those as well.
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This page: http://fuse4bsd.creo.hu/ seems to indicate that fuse is available for FreeBSD in the ports collection, whatever that is.
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<lapinmalin>
On freebsd port, i can install fuse
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so i've to wget ltspfs to freebsd and compile it ?
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For RDP connexion, i use gadi tar.gz : ltsp-rdp. Any help ?
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<sbalneav>
Yes, you'd have to pull the ltspfs sources down from cvs, and re-compile them.
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As for gadi's rdp stuff, you'd have to talk to him about it: I've got no way to test any of it here, so I just ignore Windows RDP :)
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We don't use any windows here at work, so Bill Gates doesn't affect me at all :)
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<lapinmalin>
I prefer to use Linux/UNIX but in our french school, some exam must be on BillSoftware :-(((((
09:22* jammcq just bought 2 dell desktop machines WITHOUT the microsoft tax :)
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<lapinmalin>
When ltspfs is compile, what i have to do ? How can i check ? With the list ?
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<a5benwillis>
sbalneav: Must benice to be fully liberated.
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<cliebow>
arrrrrrgh..w 2003 server Sucks
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<a5benwillis>
cliebow: Whats wrong?
09:24
Cliebow: Just open the cd tray and insert an envelope addressed to Bill Gates andit should work fine :-)
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<sbalneav>
lapinmalin: Follow the ltsp4.2 localdev page. I know absolutely nothing about FreeBSD, so I have no idea where you'll need to insert start-up scripts.
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<a5benwillis>
Oh, dont forgetto inclose money.
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<sbalneav>
I'd personally recommend the following:
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1) If you're planning on sticking with FreeBSD, do without local device support
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<lapinmalin>
sbalneav : Thanks very much !!! I'll try now
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<cliebow>
a5benwillis, arerrrrrrrrrrgh!!
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<lapinmalin>
why whithout local device ?
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<sbalneav>
2) If you need local device support, ditch FreeBSD and move to a linux platform that's supported.
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<a5benwillis>
cliebow: What's wrong?
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<sbalneav>
Because you're going to have to do a LOT of work to get it working.
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and I won't be much help throughout it, as I don't know much about FreeBSD.
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<lapinmalin>
I understand
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<cliebow>
ooohhh.nothing really...i have to set mea testing and it is a pos java app that w2k3server doesnt want to play with...in the interest of SECURITY
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<a5benwillis>
What a pain.
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<cliebow>
well i should go down there..nx is logey from there..refresh is laggy
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<ogra>
lapinmalin, ltspfs will need uved, is bsd using that anywhere ?
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<cliebow>
vedu?
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<lapinmalin>
i dont know
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<ogra>
devu :P
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<lapinmalin>
uved ?
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<cliebow>
voodoo
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<ogra>
udev indeed :)
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<lapinmalin>
i search immediatly udev
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<cliebow>
2.6 kernel?
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<ogra>
it cares for all the magic on the client, you will need it
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<envite>
going home for lunch
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bye!
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<lapinmalin>
Gadi, i've tried your package LTSP-RDP for USB Stick, but i can't see the content of the directory on TS till i do a mount -a on the WS
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<a5benwillis>
very slow around here today
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<zald>
how do i bind the username to the ltsp thin client ?
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<erdinc>
hi everyone
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hi to all
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can i tar all my /opt/ltsp-4.2 and copy at other server and have the clone server?
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<erdinc>
yes you may
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but copy /etc/ltsp.conf to the server too
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cause ltsp-utils packages looking this to make updates and so..
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
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what more have to check to tar then?
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<erdinc>
copy exist /etc/ltsp.conf to the backup server tar the /opt/ltsp dir and extract in the the new server with the same path
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok thanxs :)
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<erdinc>
you're welcome
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<ramsys>
if i will be using ltsp with virtualization (windows as a guest ),xp or vista what will be /should be min hardware requirement
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<Gadi>
lapinmalin: are you using LTSP 4.2?
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<Gadi>
lapinmalin: if yes, did you add these lines to lts.conf:
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RCFILE_01 = lbussd_bg
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SCREEN_01 = "rdesktop -r disk:drives=/Drives <IP>"
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?
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<lapinmalin>
Yes i do
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yes i use LTSP 4.2 and i add the two lines in lts.conf
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when i insert a USB Stick, nothing append in /Drives on the WS, BUT the key name append in /tmp/drives/
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<cliebow>
lapinmalin, is that stick partitoned?
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<lapinmalin>
yes with one partion
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If i do a mount -a on the WS, i can see the content of the key in /tmp/drives/NAMEOFTHEKEY
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<Gadi>
did you reboot the thin client?
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after applying the package
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also, drop into a shell on the thin client and make sure "lbussd" is running
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(sounds like it isnt)
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<lapinmalin>
Another test : if i insert my key, a directory /tmp/drives/RemovableStick is created and is empty. Then i go to Windows 2003Server, and i see the directory RemovableStick under drives. But it's empty ! If i create a directory on the TS, i see it on the TS !!
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Yes i reboot
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yes "lubssd" is running
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<zald>
cool i was been able to bind the username to ltsp thin client :)
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<Gadi>
lapinmalin: is lbuscd running?
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<lapinmalin>
yes lbuscd is working, BUT i verify and lubssd isn't working !
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<Gadi>
you checked: ps |grep lbussd on the thin client shell?
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<lapinmalin>
yes i do ps -ax|grep lbussd
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12:08
<lapinmalin>
i'm arriving : i've got pb with the screen. i've lots
12:08
i've lost RDP connection and shell !
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<lapinmalin>
OK after the reboot, no more lbussd with ps
12:17
And in /.lbussd.out a new line
12:18
DISPLAY has gone away, it's to quit the loop
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<lapinmalin>
I've to leave. Gadi, when can i meet you tomorrow
12:32
<a5benwillis>
Anyone have an easy fix for the grub error 18 problem after install in Vmware???
12:32
Booting up live cd now to see if I marked the wrong partition bootable when I built the system.
12:33
<Gadi>
lapinmalin: i should be around
12:33
I'm in EST (GMT -5)
12:33
<lapinmalin>
I'm in France
12:33
<Gadi>
bonsoir
12:34
<lapinmalin>
Before leaving : i tried to lanch /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/lbussd and it's seem the WS has lost its DISPLAY
12:34
Vous parlez francais ? :-)
12:34
<Gadi>
me no
12:34
:(
12:35
<lapinmalin>
ok, i've to improve my english
12:35
<Gadi>
un pequito espanol
12:35
y piu meno italiano
12:35
<lapinmalin>
no espanol
12:35
<Gadi>
ok
12:35
:)
12:35
<lapinmalin>
my girlfriend speak italian
12:36
why the program say it's loosing the DISPLAY ?
12:37
<Gadi>
do you run rdesktop on display :0?
12:37
or *some* graphical desktop on SCREEN_01?
12:38
<lapinmalin>
no rdesktop is on SCREEN_02 in lts.conf
12:38
<Gadi>
startx/rdesktop
12:38
<lapinmalin>
yes i use SCREEN_01 for startx
12:38
<Gadi>
ok. make sure you ctrl-alt-f1 so X initializes on screen_01
12:38
my lbussd script is kinda stupid
12:39
and requires a valid display :0
12:39
br b
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<lapinmalin>
yes ctrl-alt-F1 i found X
12:40
<a5benwillis>
gadi: Couldyou help my get xdmcp working on edubuntu?
12:40
<lapinmalin>
on ctrl-alt-f2 rdesktop and shell on f3
12:44
I verify : it's seem with ps -ax that Xorg is :1.0 ???
12:46
Gadi : I've to leave. See you tomorow. THANKS for your help. THANKS very much
12:51
<Gadi>
lapinmalin: im back
12:51
sorry
12:51
if Xorg is on :1, that's an issue
12:51
you need a graphical display on :0
12:51
or modify /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.d/lbussd
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<Gadi>
a5benwillis: sure
12:52
login as your admin user. Go to System > Administration > Login Setup
12:53
go to remote tab
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change to Same as Local
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then log out of gnome
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ctrl-alt-f2 to get to a console
12:53
login as admin user
12:53
sudo /etc/init.d/gndm restart
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sudo netstat -anp|grep :177
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if you dont get a response, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart again
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(gdm can be flaky)
12:55
<a5benwillis>
what about the lts.conf file?
12:57
<Gadi>
SCREEN_07 = startx
13:00
<a5benwillis>
thanks. as soon as I recover from this grub error 18 I'll giveit another go.
13:00
<Gadi>
grub error?
13:01
<a5benwillis>
reinstalled edubuntu
13:01
gotan error 18 when booting
13:01
<Gadi>
and you got a grub error?
13:02
<a5benwillis>
yes, Its in vmware
13:02
I have to create a small 100mb partition at the beginning of the disk.
13:02
<Gadi>
right
13:03
the BIOS cant find thekernel
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<a5benwillis>
redoing grub now..
13:18
Gadi: Well %%&%& that didnt work. Guess I'll reinstall,again///
13:18
takes hours to reinstall in a VM to. Mayhave to wait til morning.
13:19
<Gadi>
a5benwillis: no need to reinstall
13:19
not for grub
13:20
what steps did you take?
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<a5benwillis>
I booted thelive cd
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ran gparted
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marked sda,2 bootable
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mounted my filesystem
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ran grub-install
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/dev/sda
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<Gadi>
is sda2 at the end or beginning?
13:21
<a5benwillis>
middle
13:21
Ihave this layout
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<Gadi>
it needs to be in the beginning of the disk
13:21
<a5benwillis>
sda1(100mb), sd2(15gb etx3), sd3(600mb swap)
13:21
<Gadi>
good
13:21
then 1 should be bootable
13:22
sda1 = bootable
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<a5benwillis>
sda1 isunformatted
13:22
<Gadi>
format with ext3
13:22
then, mount it and copy /mnt/sda2/boot/* /mnt/sda1
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or rather copy /mnt/sda2/boot /mnt/sda1
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<a5benwillis>
I'll give that a try
13:25
the live cd boots slow as christmas to lol
13:25
<Gadi>
a5benwillis: the idea is you need to boot from sda1
13:25
beacuse sda1 is iwithin the first 1024 cylinders
13:25
<a5benwillis>
oh ok
13:25
<Gadi>
some BIOSes (and evidently vmware) only see the first 1024 cylinders
13:26
so on large drives, if you installed the boot info after everything else, and you have 1 huge partition, the bits could be past the 1024th cylinder
13:26
and the BIOS doesnt see it, so grub doesn't find a kernel
13:27
by partitioning, ur forcing the boot info into the first 1024 cylinders
13:27
<a5benwillis>
makes sense. havent seen it explained that way.
13:27* Gadi shrugs - engineers aint the best communicatators
13:27
<Gadi>
:)
13:27
<a5benwillis>
lol for sure
13:27
<Gadi>
PS: most modern BIOSes don't have this issue
13:27
<a5benwillis>
<--- supposed to be a network engineer lmao
13:28
at least thats my title.
13:28
hehe
13:28
<Gadi>
:)
13:28
if you ever get into booting from USB stick, you learn a lot about BIOSes
13:28
<bricode>
Gadi: cheers to that.
13:28
<a5benwillis>
Iplayed around withit a few years ago
13:28
knoppix?
13:29
<bricode>
Gadi: booting from usb sticks is the devil.
13:29
<Gadi>
bricode: but the devil is a sweet mistress
13:29
<ogra>
Gadi, network filesystems rarely have cylinders, i think that excuses him as network engineer
13:29
:)
13:29
<a5benwillis>
VMWARE needsto usgradet heir bios then :-)
13:29
<bricode>
Gadi: true story. It was painful getting the OLPC stack to do what I wanted on a usb key.
13:29
<Gadi>
ogra: to BIOSes, *everything* has cylinders
13:30
even USB sticks! lol
13:30
<ogra>
heh
13:30
<a5benwillis>
orga speaks!
13:31
<ogra>
my GF would object that ...
13:31
<a5benwillis>
one day, when I get this ltspstuff working, I need to ask you guys about my multi grup boot issue. On my workstation :-)
13:31
<bricode>
What's a GF? ')
13:31
;)
13:31
<ogra>
heh
13:32
you are right, at least i spoke enough in my life to get one :)
13:32
<a5benwillis>
matty her, then you'llnever need to talk again ;-)
13:33
marry
13:33
<ogra>
right to prevent that situation i refused to marry yet ;)
13:33
<a5benwillis>
<-- looks around for his wife.
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<a5benwillis>
mistik1: Good afternoon
13:38
gadi: Well Im about to leave for the day. I'llgive this another try. Hopefully can get it to boot.
13:39
<Gadi>
its easiest when you know the theory
13:39
and now you know the theory
13:39
:)
13:39
biggest diff between Linux and Windows
13:39
in Linux, we dont gloss over the theory
13:39
whether you like it or not
13:39
:)
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<bricode>
Gadi: Adventure, excitement, a linux hacker craves not these things.
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<cliebow>
Balls:missed all he god stuff 8!(
15:13
8~)
15:13
<jammcq>
nope, the good stuff is just about to start
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<cliebow>
wait til i get home then..
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<Lumiere>
lol
15:18
<cliebow>
Lumiere: have you been to ltsp-by -the sea? having trouble putting face and name together..
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<Lumiere>
no
15:19
I was at the booth lwce-sf
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in.....?
15:19
<jammcq>
Lumiere: pre-dates BTS
15:19
<astroboy>
Hi, I've got ltspcfg showing 'yes' everywhere but eth1 is duplicating eth0 values. I'm stumped - can anyone suggest where to look ?
15:19
<jammcq>
hmm
15:19
<cliebow>
ok..just feel like i know you from somewhere..
15:19
<jammcq>
astroboy: what distro?
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15:20
<astroboy>
Etch ..
15:20
<jstraw>
hi?
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<jammcq>
cliebow: Lumiere == jstraw
15:20
blast from the past
15:20
astroboy: on the server, run: ifconfig -a
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<jstraw>
Registered: 5 years 37 weeks 4 days (18h 50m 52s) ago
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<jammcq>
and see what it reports for IP address for each NIC
15:20
<jstraw>
that's just scary
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<cliebow>
ahhhh!i Know you from the old ltsp.org site then
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<jammcq>
Lumiere: how do I see when I registered?
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<Lumiere>
do /ns info jammcq
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<jammcq>
don't work :(
15:21
<ogra>
on etch you really should use ltsp5
15:21
<Lumiere>
... /msg nickserv info jammcq then
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<astroboy>
jammcq: ifconfig eth0 shows correct values but eth1 has no inet, Bcast, or Mask .. previously had them ..
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<cliebow>
give me a good excuse to do lwsf 8~)
15:23
other than th two jobs im holding down summers
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<astroboy>
jammcq: /etc/dhcpd.conf has eth1 with subnet 169.254.65.14 .. don't know why they dropped out of ltspcfg ..
15:28
Hmm .. I'll have to shew on it ..
15:28
chew ..
15:29
<ogra>
astroboy, how did you install this ltsp on etch ?
15:30
<astroboy>
apt-get .. ltspadmin .. http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/docs/ltsp-4.1-en.html#AEN320
15:31
<ogra>
jammcq, appratently debian recently added the ltsp-utils package .... you will get a lot of confusing support stuff with etch
15:31
:(
15:31
<astroboy>
yep .. ltsp-utils
15:31
didn't see any ltsp5
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<ogra>
no, ltsp-server and ltsp-server-standalone are the ltsp5 packages ...
15:32
you shouldnt mix them with ltsp-utils (which is 4.2)
15:33
<astroboy>
OK .. I'll apt-get them in ..
15:33
<ogra>
we dropped the 4.2 package from the ubuntu arechive last release because it caused so many problems ...
15:33
<astroboy>
heh .. heh
15:33
<ogra>
now debian adds it at dawn of debians first ltsp5 release ... history repeats ...
15:34
and they dont even have the main/universe distinction so clever users could find out about it
15:35
<zald>
how do i setup my local printer on ltsp workstation? i already included the PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0 on /opt/ltsp/i386/ltsp.conf, but still no luck
15:38
PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
15:38
<astroboy>
/etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf line 22: semicolon expected.
15:38
subnet
15:38
^
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<ogra>
zald, try /dev/usblp0
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<astroboy>
.. should that be 'subnet:' ?
15:39
<ogra>
zald, and /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf is the right path ...
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<astroboy>
ogra: I've just migrated form Ubuntu to Etch .. very similar in some ways.
15:40
<zald>
ogra: yes thats where i edit the configuration
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<zald>
by the way the way i setup the printer when im logon to the workstation it by using the Application->System Setting->Printing under GNOME environment, still cannot detect any local attached printer
15:42
my printer is usb hpdeskjet3820
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<astroboy>
I don't think 'subnet;' is the right syntax .. but why a colon ( : ) ?
15:55
apt-get remove ltsp-utils ?
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<astroboy>
'ifconfig eth1' .. fixed it
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<Gadi>
zald: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Printers
16:04
the wiki is a wonderful resource
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<astroboy>
ogra: I now have on old ltsp on WS01 * ltsp5 on server .. compatibility issues ?
16:06
*an old ltsp on WS01 & ltsp5 on server*
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<KeepWalking_>
hi
16:14
where can i create boot disk for my nic?
16:15
<jammcq>
Lumiere: 5 years 49 weeks 1 day
16:16
<KeepWalking_>
whats the where i can choose the network card and create a .bin to boot?
16:17
<jammcq>
KeepWalking_: http://www.rom-o-matic.net
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<KeepWalking_>
jammcq thank you very much
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
well well... navigation room .. works cool.. he
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<KeepWalking_>
why i cant boot with a rtl8029?
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<cliebow_>
8029as?
17:57
ive had probs with that
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<a5benwillis>
ping ogra
18:31
<astroboy>
ping ogra
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<a5benwillis>
good evening mistik1
18:54
<mistik1>
hey a5benwillis
19:01
<cliebow_>
mistik1:8~)
19:08
<a5benwillis>
still working on my grub boot loader error 18. I think someone has it out for me this week.
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<davidj>
Oh mistik1, how are you?
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<mahesis>
hi
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<mahesis>
i need programmer apps for cyber with ltsp
20:31
i am learning python to programmer control cyber in python
20:31
i need voluntary
20:33
<davidj>
mahesis: What do you need?
20:44
<Lumiere>
what is cyber...
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<davidj>
mistik1: hey
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<mistik1>
hola
20:54
<jammcq>
hey mistik1
20:55
<mistik1>
sup bro
20:56
I'd like to report sucess on my little project of remote XP via Qemu
20:57
<jammcq>
remote XP ? have you gone to the dark side?
20:59
<davidj>
mistik1: Hola!
20:59
jammcq: Hola!
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<mistik1>
jammcq: No sir, But I must supports clowns that wont leave it
21:02* davidj plays "Send in the Clowns" slowly, with sadness.
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<jammcq>
they're already here
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<mistik1>
hehe
21:03
<davidj>
jammcq: HEY, WHO ARE YOU CALLING A CLOWN?
21:04
<mahesis>
hi davidj
21:04
you know python
21:04
i need a control cyber for ltsp5
21:05
<davidj>
mahesis: What's a "control cyber"?
21:11
<mahesis>
counter timer for clients
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davidj: counter timer for clients
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<davidj>
ah, you mean you want to time clients so you know how much to charge them?
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<KeepWalking_>
who is on dev team?
21:28
<davidj>
KeepWalking_: There are several people on the dev team. Why do you ask? ;-)
21:30
<KeepWalking_>
davidj: i want to translate a doc, to spanish that it is not avaiable
21:31
i want to know what steps i have to follow
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<davidj>
Which doc?
21:32
KeepWalking_: Which doc is missing?
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<KeepWalking_>
sorry
21:34
im back
21:35
davidj: i want to translate a doc, to spanish that it is not avaiable
21:35
i want to know what steps i have to follow
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davidj: can u help me?
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<davidj>
KeepWalking_: Yes, I can help. I'm supposed to maintain the translations
21:35
KeepWalking_: Which doc is missing>
21:36
<KeepWalking_>
there is nothing in spanish, and i like to translate
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<davidj>
KeepWalking_: ¿Cúal es el documento que buscas?
21:37
<jammcq>
davidj: i've received a new french translation of the docs, you want it?
21:37
<KeepWalking_>
davidj: me referia a en la pagina no hay en espa;ol, y me gustaria traducir yo, o ya hay?
21:39
<davidj>
jammcq: Oui, si'l vous plait.
21:39
(hope I spelled that right :-)
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<jammcq>
yeah, like I would know
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<KeepWalking_>
davidj:
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<davidj>
KeepWalking_: Creo que hemos traducidos todos los documentos al español. ¿Qué documento falta?
21:40
<mahesis>
KeepWalking_: do you speak spanish?
21:40
<KeepWalking_>
si si
21:40
soy argentino
21:40
<mahesis>
xD
21:40
davidj: tu hablas español?
21:41
xD
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<davidj>
21:41
<mahesis>
xD
21:41
<astroboy>
Hi, I'm getting "Searching for server (DHCP)" on WS01 .. I've posted lts.conf on http://pastebin.ca/375260 & /etc/dhcpd.conf on http://pastebin.ca/375262 .. shouldn't there be a kernel entry in ther somewhere ?
21:41
<mahesis>
davidj: sobre que distribucion estas?
21:41
<KeepWalking_>
debo estar ciego, hoy estaba mostrando la pagina, y no vimos los docs en espa;ol
21:41
<davidj>
Centos (clónico RedHat)
21:41
<KeepWalking_>
q papelon
21:41
<davidj>
je je
21:42
<astroboy>
Non habla Espanol, Senores !
21:42
<mahesis>
KeepWalking_: : sobre que distribucion estas?
21:42
<davidj>
astroboy: Hey, we try to help anyone here.
21:42
<KeepWalking_>
mahesis: debian sarge
21:42
<astroboy>
Cool ..
21:42
<KeepWalking_>
astroboy: we can try english
21:43
<davidj>
KeepWalking_: Dejame saber si hay errores en la documentación.
21:43
<KeepWalking_>
davidj: te juro q hoy no vi la documentacion en espa;ol
21:43
<astroboy>
I have a nephew riding a Kawasaki from SF to Rio .. last heard of in La Paz, Mexico
21:43
<KeepWalking_>
estoy presentando un proyecto
21:43
en la universidad q trabajo
21:43
hoy mostre la pagina
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y mostre todo en ingles
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<astroboy>
OT, I know ..
21:44
<KeepWalking_>
q tarado
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<davidj>
KeepWalking_: Te juro que no he cambiado nada de nada en esa página en más de un mes.
21:45
KeepWalking_: Let us know how your university project goes. We would be glad to help if necessary.
21:45
<KeepWalking_>
davidj: habre mirado mal, un papelon
21:45
davidj: yo queria ayudar pero ya esta hecho...
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<jammcq>
davidj: I've installed the updated french documentation
21:46
<KeepWalking_>
davidj: es un proyecto interesante, podria conseguir unos 300 terminales para clientes, y varios servidores
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<davidj>
jammcq: Thanks for posting that. Is it in cvs, too_
21:47
jammcq: Thanks for posting that. Is it in cvs, too?
21:47
<jammcq>
hmm, no, not in cvs
21:47
I suppose it needs to be there, eh?
21:47* davidj can't seem to remember if he's using an american or spanish keyboard tonight.
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<davidj>
jammcq: It would be nice ;-=
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<KeepWalking_>
se;ores me retiro.... buenas noches
21:48
<davidj>
KeepWalking_: Buenas noches
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<astroboy>
Hmm ..
21:57
I might try the list ..
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<davidj>
What list?
21:57
'night all
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<astroboy>
Ltsp-discuss
22:00
Actually, I think I've just spotted something .. recursive problem-solving .. [chasing one's tail]
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<jammcq>
hey vagrantc
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: evenin
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<jammcq>
hey, we'll be putting a tarball of the ubuntu bits up on the ltsp download site, for people to grab and install on any distro. I'd like to put a Debian tarball there as well. do you have such a tarball ?
22:04
or... maybe I can just build my own
22:04
<vagrantc>
i could build one, i suppose. though etch is still kinda a moving target.
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<astroboy>
I'm enjoying Etch ..
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.. it borrows a lot from the Ubuntu gui
22:15
I'm a bit confused, using /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386/etc but having installed pkgs from ltsp5 such as ltsp-server ..
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<vagrantc>
astroboy: merely installing the packages won't do anything, you need to run ltsp-build-client, and it won't overwrite your /opt/ltsp-4.2 directories or anything, but you'll have to configure it to use /opt/ltsp/* instead
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<astroboy>
OK .. I've done this before but it seems a long time ago ..
22:27
running ltsp-build-client now
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<astroboy>
impressive, a whole new distro .. which kernel is is using ?
22:47
<vagrantc>
actually, its not a new distro- that's the whole point!
22:48
on a debian system, the LTSP environment is a debian system, on an ubuntu system it's an ubuntu LTSP
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<astroboy>
Woops .. "error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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" due to "Temporary failure resolving 'http.us.debian.org'
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"
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<jammcq>
on on Suse, well...... it's either a debian or ubuntu ltsp :)
22:48
<vagrantc>
ltsp 4.x and older were effectively their own distros ... and that's a lot of work.
22:48
jammcq: yes, well... :)
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<jammcq>
and at this point, on Fedora..... it's debian or ubuntu ltsp :)
22:49* vagrantc has hope for gentoo
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<jammcq>
yes, that'll be the 3rd one
22:49
fedora will be 4th
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<astroboy>
I might have to run it in the morning - my time - when connections are better.
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<vagrantc>
astroboy: so, to answer your questions regarding the kernel, it's using the debian kernel :)
22:58
<astroboy>
Thanks. I've been impressed with ltsp for a long time .. its just good to get it running and keep it stable.
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<vagrantc>
well, the whole ltsp5 is adding a little instability for the moment...
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<astroboy>
I've got a demanding 82 yr old client who is hard to impress ..
23:06
W: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz was corrupt
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.. on next attempt
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<vagrantc>
you might want to pick a specific mirror ... http.us.debian.org is sometimes a round-robin DNS and all the mirrors in the pool may not be perfectly in sync.
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<astroboy>
I'm just running 'ltsp-build-client
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'
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Bye for now ..
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<vagrantc>
and i'm saying you might want to consider running "ltsp-build-client --mirror http://some-specific-mirror/debian
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"
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<astroboy>
Thx
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<vagrantc>
in fact, i usually build a local mirror using "reprepro" with only the packages i use :)