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Channel log from 22 September 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<gnunux>
hi
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<muppis>
I've asked before this, but already forgot it.. Need to add driver for touchscreen and settings for X. Is all done under chroot?
02:25
OKey.. Hmm.. Damn teachers.
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<muppis>
How to set local printer as default?
06:42
Shared via server.
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<Appiah>
muppis: what else is default?
07:44
<elias_a>
muppis: Back to yesterdays question....
07:45
muppis: Are you really able to open PDF files directly from a browser that is being run as local app?
07:47
I do not have an LTSP server here but from what I've read about this issue it seems to be the case that no software is able to open a PDF directly from the browser if the browser is run as a local application.
07:52
<Appiah>
if you have a pdf viewer as a local app it should not be a problem?
08:05
<elias_a>
Appiah: AFAIK it is a problem.
08:06
Appiah: No - wait. It should work...
08:06
http://marc.info/?l=ltsp-discuss&m=127561903232468&w=2
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<Appiah>
well one solution is not to open pdfs
08:16
but to save them to homedir
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<Appiah>
and then open on the server ^^
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<mnemoc>
hi, where does the tftp server log?
10:18
in ubuntu 10.04 ltsp
10:20
<Gadi>
mnemoc: syslog
10:20
mnemoc: you may want to add: -vvv
10:20
mnemoc: to the command in inetd.conf
10:20
to get more logging
10:20
<mnemoc>
thanks for the hint, i was only using one -v
10:20
but i see no trace of it...
10:20
<Gadi>
did you restart inetd?
10:21
<mnemoc>
uhm... mine is stand alone.. /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa
10:21
<Gadi>
that's the problem
10:21
:)
10:22
check inetd.conf
10:22
<mnemoc>
it wasn't me... it was automatically installed that way
10:22
<Gadi>
ah - well, do you not have an inetd.conf entry for it as well?
10:22
<mnemoc>
ldminfod and nbd* only
10:22
<Gadi>
most likely the init script is not used
10:23
<mnemoc>
i'll make it use inetd then
10:23
<Gadi>
tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
10:23
or in your case: tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot -vvv
10:24
<mnemoc>
weee... now i see the NAKs :)
10:24
thanks! :)
10:24
<Gadi>
np
10:26
<mnemoc>
btw, do you know any good-for-ltsp and cheap thin client unit? (not refurbished pcs, but very small cute boxes)
10:27
most i have seen make you "inquire"... but i wont inquire if it costs US$500+ per unit like HP's
10:29
and in aliexpress or ebay i didn't find any pxe-capable :(
10:31
<ogra>
look, a Gadi !
10:33
<Gadi>
mnemoc: Our company only sells thin client units as accessories to our boot products. If you are looking for just thin client units, you chould check out DisklessWorkstations.com or talk to _UsUrPeR_
10:33* _UsUrPeR_ tips his hat
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<Gadi>
ogra: !!!
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<ogra>
:)
10:36
<mnemoc>
_UsUrPeR_: url? :)
10:38
<_UsUrPeR_>
http://www.disklessworkstations.com
10:38
<mnemoc>
ah, ok
10:39
<_UsUrPeR_>
any questions about the units, post in here or PM me
10:39
<mnemoc>
initially i understood that site and you were two different options :)
10:39
<_UsUrPeR_>
nope, we are one-and-the-same
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<Kyle__>
Gadi: I mean no offense whatsoever here, but I look at that page, and all I can think is, the cheapest is still over $250. What's the advantage there to going with those vs buying a cheapo pc and using it as a thin-client?
11:25
As someone whos actually thought about buying them for both work and home.
11:25
<RicardoPerez>
hi! i've a little problem. my ltsp fat clients are unable to mount their local hard disks. when i click on Places->hard disk, a dialog appears asking me for the root's password
11:26
<Kyle__>
RicardoPerez: You need to mount the local HD in the setup scripts.
11:26
<RicardoPerez>
the ltsp client user is already member of plugdev, cdrom and fuse groups
11:26
Kyle__: may I mount it hacking the setup scripts by hand?
11:27
<Kyle__>
RicardoPerez: Yes, if you included a user on the fat-client image.
11:27
RicardoPerez: I made a localadmin user inside my fat-client image, with sudo access of course. If you did something like that, you should be able to.
11:28
<RicardoPerez>
Kyle__: thank you... Is there a way to have any user able to access to the local hard disk?
11:28
I mean my students
11:29
so when the students log into the ltsp fat client, they could access to the local hard disk
11:29
<Kyle__>
RicardoPerez: Yes, I think there is. I have VMs on the local hd, and my users can access them. But that partition is mounted by my starts scripts.
11:29* Kyle__ nods
11:30
<RicardoPerez>
Kyle__: great, that's what I would like to achieve
11:30
<Gadi>
Kyle__: first, I have no affiliation with them, so address your pricing concerns to _UsUrPeR_ :)
11:30
<RicardoPerez>
Kyle__: could you please tell me what start scripts I need to hack?
11:30
<Kyle__>
RicardoPerez: are you running any scripts via RCFILE in your lts.conf?
11:30* _UsUrPeR_ tips his had again
11:30
<Kyle__>
Gadi: Ah, I mis-read, I thought that was the co you worked for, not _UsUrPeR_
11:31
<_UsUrPeR_>
pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
11:31
<RicardoPerez>
Kyle__: no, i don't. I only have a LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS=False
11:31
<_UsUrPeR_>
how can I help? :)
11:31
<RicardoPerez>
but doesn't work
11:31
<Kyle__>
OK, same Q to _UsUrPeR_: what's the advantage to that vs a cheapo nettop thats about ~200?
11:31* _UsUrPeR_ reads above
11:31
<Gadi>
Kyle__: second, I will say that built into that price is thorough testing of the product to work with LTSP, as well as support for an LTSP small business that supports the community, as well as a company to scream at when things go wrong
11:31
Kyle__: anyone can build their own anything
11:31
:)
11:32
<Kyle__>
RicardoPerez: edit /etc/rc.local to mount that drive, and then in lts.conf, put in a line RCFILE_01=/etc/rc.local
11:32
RicardoPerez: Then it's done.
11:32
<RicardoPerez>
Kyle__: great, i'll try it
11:32
Kyle__: thank you very much!
11:32
Kyle__: i wonder why the LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS=False doesn't work
11:32
...
11:33
<Kyle__>
Gadi: That's a fair argument. I'm asking since I've seen thin-clients before and wondered that. But I haven't had someone affiliated with one of those companies to poke with the question before!
11:33
RicardoPerez: I dunno. But hang around the channel, someone who knows may show up!
11:33
<Gadi>
RicardoPerez: the ltspfs localdev system is not used with fat clients, afaik
11:33
RicardoPerez: and that parameter only affects the ltspfs system
11:33
<RicardoPerez>
Gadi: oh, what a pity!
11:34
<Kyle__>
RicardoPerez: Mention it to alkisg when he wakes up.
11:34
<RicardoPerez>
so the only way to achieve it is to use the startup scripts, ok
11:34
<_UsUrPeR_>
Kyle__ Couple other points aside from what Gadi said ... No fans, no moving parts, long shelf life, small form factor, etc ... Either way, people have been purchasing them for over 10 years. In respect to the channel, we should move this conversation elsewhere
11:34* alkisg is awake! It's afternoon here :D
11:34
<Kyle__>
Ahhah!
11:34
<RicardoPerez>
Kyle__: ok, i'll do it :)
11:34* alkisg reads up...
11:34
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg, hi, good afternoon :)
11:35
<alkisg>
Hi RicardoPerez, the local hard disks are accessed as if you had a local installation,
11:35
<Kyle__>
_UsUrPeR_: No problem. Like I said, I've always wondered that, so I figured I'd hit someone affiliated with those with that question :)
11:35
<_UsUrPeR_>
Kyle__ Could you contact us at sales@disklessworkstations.com or PM me? We'll get all your questions answered.
11:35
<alkisg>
that is, members of the "admin" group can mount them automatically,
11:35
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg, hi, my ltsp clients are fat ltsp clients with windows & ubuntu installed in their respective partitions
11:36
alkisg, so a user belonging to the admin group could mount any local partition, right?
11:36
<alkisg>
RicardoPerez: but users not in the admin group would have to provide an admin username/password, and passwords are not there on the thin clients, so no authentication can occur
11:36
Right
11:36
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg, great! however, a user belonging to the admin group is an administrator...
11:37
alkisg, could it be a problem with the sudo command?
11:37
<alkisg>
sudo needs authentication, which again can't be done out of the box on fat clients
11:37
RicardoPerez: you can customize this behavior by editing your policykit settings
11:37
E.g. you could allow any user to mount/unmount disks...
11:37
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg, however, the user could log into the ltsp server and it has admin privilegies...
11:38
alkisg, oh, the policykit thing sounds good...
11:38
alkisg, do you know where may I need to touch?
11:38
(sorry about my horrible English)
11:38
<alkisg>
Np mine are not better either :D
11:38
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg :D
11:39
<alkisg>
/etc/polkit-1/something in the chroot
11:39
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg, mmm great!
11:40
I'll look at it
11:41
maybe the rc.local tip could be a faster & easier way :)
11:43
<alkisg>
About the localdev stuff, as fat clients do not use ltfpfs, it doesn't work. Maybe it should...
11:44* alkisg checks if he put in any way to automatically mount the local disks for fat clients...
11:45
<RicardoPerez>
mmmm great, thanks :)
11:46
<alkisg>
Nope, only for unmounting any disks mounted by the previous admin user on logoff.
11:47
<RicardoPerez>
well, i'll try with the policykit way. thank you very much, Kyle__, Gadi & alkisg! :)
11:47
<alkisg>
Gadi, what do you think? LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS=False should mount the local disks on fat clients?
11:47
<Gadi>
alkisg: I thought you disabled LOCALDEV for fat clients
11:47
<alkisg>
RicardoPerez: if you can't find it, ping me, I've done it before.
11:48
Gadi: yes, I mean mount them in fstab
11:48
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: +1 :)
11:48
<Gadi>
ah
11:48
well, it kinda mixes systems
11:48
because it is weird to say LOCALDEV=Fasle, but.... LOCALDEV_BLAH still does something
11:48
<alkisg>
Right... still, what RicardoPerez asks isn't a rare use case... I think we should make it easier for him...
11:49
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: if you did it before, please look at :)
11:49
<Gadi>
yeah, but fat clients are full of things you have to do special
11:49
and in a fat client kind of way
11:49
<alkisg>
So we leave it up to polkit, and just document it in a wiki?
11:49
<RicardoPerez>
i need to go, thank you, bye!
11:49
<alkisg>
Bye
11:50
<Gadi>
yeah, I think document it
11:50
<alkisg>
OK, ty
11:50
<Gadi>
because it is something that a user of a regular Linux PC might ask, too
11:50
<alkisg>
Righ
11:50
t
11:50
<Gadi>
and it would be done in the same way
11:50
which prolly means it is already documented... somewhere
11:50
:)
11:51
I guess the only twist is that our fat clients are single-image
11:51
and you may want that behavior only on selected clients
11:51
<alkisg>
It is, but the ubuntu wiki is a chaos due to the polkit => polkit-1 upgrade :(
11:52
<Gadi>
that's a general Linux problem - everybody keeps changing the subsystems
11:52
:)
11:52
<alkisg>
Polkit only allows per-user customization unfortunately...
11:52
(or per-group)
11:53
<Gadi>
yeah - why they can't just copy windows group policy structure is beyond me
11:53
:)
11:53
damn stubborn Linux devs
11:53
<alkisg>
:D
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<RicardoPerez>
anybody knows if there's a precompiled iTALC 1.0.11 Ubuntu package?
14:16
<alkisg>
I don't think so
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<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: actually, 1.0.9 shipped with Lucid works OK for me
14:17
<alkisg>
Nice, it almost always hangs for me :)
14:18
<RicardoPerez>
alexqwesa: :D
14:18
alkisg: sorry :D
14:18
<alkisg>
E.g. if I try to broadcast my screen 2-3 times, at the end of the teaching hour I only have 2-3 PCs left, the others are either locked up or just ignore the broadcasting :)
14:19
<RicardoPerez>
oh, I didn't try broadcasting yet... I'll take a look and i'll see if I can reproduce your issue
14:19
1.0.11 seems to be some improvements and bugfixing... maybe it worth a try
14:20
is there any way to "auto-reorganize" the client's screens on the italc-master?
14:21
sometimes I have many tiny windows over other tiny windows and reorganize them it's a pain...
14:25
<alkisg>
There's a button to automatically reorganize the clients
14:25
In the toolbar
14:26
I've had that issue in 4 out of 5 labs, and for many italc versions, so I just stopped using it..
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<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: I have very little user experience with iTALC... by now, it works well for me, but I only use it for look at the client's screens and not much more... Is there any iTALC alternative?
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<alkisg>
No, I had to make my own, but it's not available for international use yet.
14:51
There's controlaula which is worse than italc :)
14:51
<markit>
hi alkisg :) (no questions tonight)
14:51
alkisg: oh, italc, you are provoking me, lol
14:51
<alkisg>
Hi markit, heh, nice, time for me to rest :D
14:52
<markit>
hehehe
14:52
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: mmm... controlaula seems to be an Spanish project (from the Linex team, I think)
14:52
<markit>
I've some work problems to solve (Zimbra installation), I have to go back to school's server asap, but can't tonight
14:53
RicardoPerez: I have the problem of having something like italc, but working
14:54
<alkisg>
I hope italc 2.0 is sometime published, I think the way he's going to reimplement it will also make it more stable
14:54
<markit>
I will try, as soon as I have time, to use alkisg scripts with english translation of the master interface, I think
14:54
<RicardoPerez>
markit: so it seems to be no other "working" alternative, right?
14:54
<markit>
alkisg: are you sure that the need to serve also M$Crapware is not the achille's heels of italc?
14:55
<alkisg>
markit: no, because I tried x11vnc (which italc uses internally) and it worked fine in all of my labs
14:55
<markit>
RicardoPerez: I've tried italc of kubuntu 10.04, and using it "gently" I've been able to crash it all the 2 times I tried it
14:55
<alkisg>
It's just badly tested
14:55
<markit>
alkisg: tested or debugged?
14:55
<alkisg>
tested, debugged, patched... whatever :D
14:55
<markit>
RicardoPerez: and if italc crashes, you can't make it work rerunning it, at least the way crashed to me
14:55
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: used? :)
14:56
<alkisg>
The developer isn't really cooperative in accepting patches...
14:56
<markit>
RicardoPerez: I know an italian teacher that first told me italc is bad, he submitted some patches to italc creator but none were integrated, or email replied
14:56
<RicardoPerez>
markit: so I'm lucky by now... I didn't see any crash... yet :)
14:56
<markit>
alkisg told me his experience was the same
14:56
this is not good for a Free Software project
14:56
RicardoPerez: what version?
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<RicardoPerez>
I'm using 1.0.9, the version supplied with Lucid
14:57
<markit>
I tried mainly with "publish teacher screen" functionality
14:57
<alkisg>
RicardoPerez: usually the "ica" service is the one that crashes, so you can still watch the user screens, but can't broadcast nor view them full-screen
14:57
<markit>
RicardoPerez: me too... how many clients?
14:57
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: that sounds reasonable, because until now I didn't any broadcasting
14:58
markit: around 30
14:58
<markit>
alkisg: yes, that is what crashes, teh "client part"
14:58
alkisg: do you know how can be restarted without restart the ltsp server?
14:58
<RicardoPerez>
markit: the "client part" is the service installed on clients, right?
14:58
<markit>
urgh, I promised not to bug you tonight :(
14:58
<alkisg>
You need to run ica-launcher on each client
14:59
Heh, don't worry, if I'm busy I don't reply :)
14:59
<markit>
alkisg: so "no way", except for some magic script
14:59
RicardoPerez: I think so, I mean the "teacher" quits abruptly
14:59
<RicardoPerez>
markit: no replying to sending patches is not a good policy, sure :(
14:59
<markit>
you re-run it and tells that "the other part" (sorry, can't test here and write the exact messages) don't work
15:00
<alkisg>
Well, one could make such a script (and ica-launcher already tries to rerun ica), but on faster labs I saw ica crashing every 2 secs, which wouldn't be pretty...
15:00
<RicardoPerez>
markit: I'll try to stress iTALC tomorrow on the classroom
15:00
<markit>
well, if crontab granularity is 1 sec... ;P
15:00
<RicardoPerez>
I'll tell you my crashing experience :D
15:00
<markit>
RicardoPerez: yes please, and if you find some workaround please tell me
15:01
I give you my email in private chat, if you want
15:01
<RicardoPerez>
markit: sure
15:01
<markit>
RicardoPerez: would be better find the way to join forces and, since alkisg solution seems much more stable, internationalize it
15:01
<RicardoPerez>
I'll try to do broadcasting, remote control, full-screen and similar
15:01
<markit>
but seems is not trivial
15:01
<alkisg>
It's also much slower than plain x11vnc, maybe because of the encryption, I don't know, but broadcasts about 1 fps, while x11vnc about 5
15:02
<RicardoPerez>
what's the alkisg solution, btw?
15:02
<alkisg>
http://wiki.ubuntu-gr.org/sch-scripts/screenshots
15:02
<RicardoPerez>
mmmmmm taking a look...
15:02
wow... looks good! (and Greek ;))
15:02
<alkisg>
It's not ready for wide use yet, it's for our local needs only
15:03
<RicardoPerez>
besides that, looks very good, congratulations
15:03
<alkisg>
Thanks
15:04
<RicardoPerez>
i wonder if it could be tested in another environment different to yours
15:04
<alkisg>
dgroos translated the interface to english and he's using it in his classrooms
15:04
Works OK for him, he prefers it over italc
15:05
(I think he's the only non-Greek user of the app :D)
15:05
<RicardoPerez>
lol
15:05
alkisg: can I test it, then? I would love it!
15:05
<alkisg>
It has a lot of things that italc doesn't, e.g. live ltsp client autodetection, low ram usage, and a lot of ltsp or classroom specific things like thin/fat chroot generation + update through the menus, mass user creation etc etc
15:06
Sure, contact dgroos for the english version
15:06
<RicardoPerez>
great, thanks :)
15:07
<alkisg>
The greek ppa is there: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ - but you'll need the english .glade file
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<alkisg>
Here he is :)
15:08
<RicardoPerez>
dgroos: oh, hello! pleased to meet you :)
15:08
we're talking abot the english version of the alkisg italc-like tool :)
15:09
<dgroos>
RicardoPerez, mucho gusto!
15:09
<markit>
hi dgroos :)
15:09
<RicardoPerez>
dgroos: el gusto es mío :)
15:09
<dgroos>
Yes, I can post it on my site or, alkisg, is there a better place?
15:09
Howdy markit!
15:09
<alkisg>
I could push it to the bzr branch in launchpad...
15:09
But maybe a post in your site would be better :)
15:10
<dgroos>
alkisg: Both is fine, I think. Did you get that copy I sent?
15:10
<alkisg>
Yup
15:10
<RicardoPerez>
dgroos: could you please provide me a compiled binary version of the alkisg tool? if not, don't worry, thank you!
15:10
<alkisg>
dgroos: did you update it to the last version?
15:11
<dgroos>
(I might need to leave without warning if the parent of the student with whom I'm to meet arrives, could be any moment)
15:12
I've not updated it yet, I'll do that first then post to my site and send off a copy...
15:12
<alkisg>
That'd be best
15:12
I think we won't be making any other UI changes for 10.04
15:13
<dgroos>
RicardoPerez I'm afraid compiling is beyond my limited capacities, alkisg, can you make a UI-translated-to-English version available?
15:13
<alkisg>
Sure
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<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: oh, thank you very much, then :) compiling is not my big point, neither :(
15:14
<alkisg>
(bzr branch lp:sch-scripts; copy the glade; debuild -b -tc)
15:14
But it's python, so copying files over /usr/share/sch-scripts is also a choice :)
15:15
<dgroos>
alkisg: For Sure! (whatever he said ;))
15:15
<alkisg>
As soon as dgroos sends me the last version of the .glade file, I'll upload the .deb to some ppa.
15:16
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg, dgroos: zillions of thanks :)
15:16
<alkisg>
np
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<dgroos>
alkisg: so no luck with the sorting clients by user groups?
15:18
mucho gusto, again :)
15:18
<alkisg>
dgroos: no, but I think phantomas sorted the clients by hostname on the newer version, which is a good first step
15:18
(you can declare the client hostnames in lts.conf)
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<dgroos>
I'll get on the translation...
15:18
That sounds like a work around? :D
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<alkisg>
You only do that once per lab though, it's worth the work :)
15:19
<dgroos>
Excellent!!! Thanks you guys!
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<alkisg>
It's nice to have the clients named in the order they're located in the classroom
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<dgroos>
For sure. How exactly would I enter the lines in the lts.conf file?
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<alkisg>
[01:02:03:04:05:06]
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HOSTNAME=pc1
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(you can see the mac address from the properties dialog of the clients, inside sch-scripts)
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<mnemoc>
where/how can I alter the template used to generate ltsp/$arch/pxelinux.cfg/default ? i need it to prefix ltsp/$arch before vmlinuz and initrd...
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<alkisg>
mnemoc: distro/version?
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<mnemoc>
unbut 10.04
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ubuntu
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<alkisg>
BOOTPROMPT_OPTIONS in /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.conf
15:23
Oooh sorry
15:23
Those are the kernel parameters, not the path
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<mnemoc>
it's :)
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err
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s/it's//
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<alkisg>
Why would you need to change the path? Isn't it correctly autodetected?
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<mnemoc>
i'll have amd64 and i386 terminals
15:24
and i want dhcp to direct them all to a single pxelinux.0
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<alkisg>
You'll have 2 ltsp/$arch dirs then, each one with the correct path there
15:24
Ah
15:25
And how are you going to tell pxelinux to load different cfg for each arch?
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<mnemoc>
it's easier to play with symlinks in pxelinux.cfg than messing with dhcp config
15:25
default -> ltsp-i386 ; ltsp-i386 -> ../ltsp/i386/...
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and exceptions MAC -> ltsp-amd64
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<alkisg>
Well, you can leave the default file as it is then, and just make the exceptions...
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<mnemoc>
ltsp-update-kernels will make $arch default look for kernel and initrd at /
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<alkisg>
That's relative to the pxelinux.0 dir, so it's not at /
15:28
You can still make exceptions with ../../ltsp/amd64/vmlinuz there afaik
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<mnemoc>
yes, but pxelinux.0 dir is at the base
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<alkisg>
You're using a custom setup?
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<alkisg>
Isn't it at /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 ?
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<mnemoc>
it is
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and the other at /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/
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but i don't want to deal with that at dhcp level
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<alkisg>
So, if you make /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/01-mac-address files, can't you point them to ../../ltsp/amd64/vmlinuz ?
15:30
<mnemoc>
i can also ignore the generated default file totally
15:30
<dgroos>
alkisg: so the mac address goes on one line and under it is HOSTNAME=pc1 then under that is the next mac address (in brackets) and under that HOSTNAME=pc2 and so on?
15:30
<mnemoc>
but it's ugly
15:30
<alkisg>
dgroos: right
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<mnemoc>
and i loose the nbdport
15:31
how is that calculated?
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can i rely it wont change?
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<alkisg>
From ltsp-update-image, it won't change if you don't add/remove chroots...
15:31
(and run ltsp-update-image --force...)
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<mnemoc>
my idea was to pass /pxelinux.0 from dhcp, there do the balancing to the different ../ltsp/$arch/blah
15:33
but if nbdport wont change spontaneusly i can write my own ltsp-i386 and ltsp-amd64 :)
15:33
<alkisg>
If you're looking for the best solution, I think the last syslinux has code to detect 64bit clients, and load different configs for them
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<mnemoc>
:o
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<alkisg>
(it says it's experimental, but works - I haven't tried it)
15:35
<mnemoc>
2:3.63+dfsg-2ubuntu3 .... pretty old :) but i can kidnap the .0 anyway... thanks for the enlightening! :)
15:37
wow.... syslinux has gained lot of power since the last time i looked
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<RicardoPerez>
i'm going to leave now. see you! alkisg, will you put the english version of your italc-like tool under https://edge.launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ ? thank you!
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<alkisg>
RicardoPerez: no, not there, somewhere else where it won't interfere
16:09
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: ok, good. so i'll ask you next week or so, if you don't mind :)
16:09
<alkisg>
Sure, no problem
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<dgroos_>
RicardoPerez just to let you know, it works great!
16:10
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: thank you very much :)
16:10
dgroos_: great! i can't wait! :)
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<dgroos_>
I'm off as well.
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<RicardoPerez>
see you! bye!
16:11
<alkisg>
Bye all
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<resnick>
hi, can anybody help me?
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<resnick>
is there anybody?
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<Lumiere>
just ask
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<resnick>
i have installed the ltsp server
20:38
and i have trouble with login on terminals
20:38
<Lumiere>
I haven't used ltsp
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in 10 years
20:38
<resnick>
omg
20:39
ok
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<johnny>
!ask
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<ltspbot`>
johnny: "ask" :: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
21:05
<johnny>
resnick, you hae to explain your problem
21:05
don't force us to ask you again
21:08* Lumiere is just 'enforcement' here
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21:09* Lumiere is now sleeping too ;)
21:12
<resnick>
hey
21:12
i m having unable to login due to unknown user id
21:12
on the terminal
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<resnick>
i can log in console
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21:15
<resnick>
but i can't login on ldm
21:18
<johnny>
is there that user on the server?
21:18
<resnick>
yes
21:19
it say too No response from server, restarting
21:25
<johnny>
and your server has a desktop environment installed? like gnome?
21:25
can you ssh to it form the console
21:25
ssh youruseronserver@server
21:26
<resnick>
yes
21:26
i can loggin too
21:26
i m using gnome
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<johnny>
via ssh?
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from your terminal
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<elias_a>
Lumiere: Well - I just woke up. It is 07:45 here. Folks on this channel live on different continents.