IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 5 February 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:14 | * alkisg sees that vagrantc is still having connectivity issues... :) | |
| 06:14 | <vagrantc> alkisg: and you have the nerve to smile about it! :P
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| 06:14 | <alkisg> All the more reason to make ltsp more resilient to network disconnects!
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| 06:14 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 06:21 | <vsuojanen> that would be then very surgical thing, you need to add to ltsp package then some tape or equipment
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| 15:17 | <mnebot> hi
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| 15:17 | anyone speak spanish?
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| 19:07 | <brentb> hello everyone
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| 19:07 | <brentb> does anyone have time to assist me? I am new to LTSP
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| 19:10 | I have installed Ubuntu 14.04. I have also installed LTSP. My problem is with the client network booting to connect.
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| 19:10 | I have successfully connected to the LTSP server and was even able to log in, that was a big win for me.
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| 19:11 | The problem is that upon logging in, the entire top bar is blank at the top of Ubuntu.
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| 19:11 | I cannot logout, shutdown, view time/date
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| 19:18 | <alkisg_away> brentb: are you using the greek schools ppa?
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| 19:18 | <alkisg> !greek-schools-ppa
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| 19:18 | <ltsp> greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
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| 19:18 | <alkisg> Ubuntu/LTSP is broken without it
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| 19:18 | <brentb> I am not sure what you mean by that to be honest
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| 19:19 | <alkisg> Run this: sudo ltsp-info
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| 19:19 | And paste the result to pastebin.com
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| 19:19 | And tells us the url. This will allow us to see the ltsp version you're using.
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| 19:21 | <brentb> ah, i need to open this chat inside the vm. wont let me past from there. brb
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| 19:21 | <alkisg> brentb:
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| 19:21 | you can open a browser inside the vm
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| 19:21 | and paste it to pastebin from inside the vm...
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| 19:22 | then you'll get a small link, you can type that here
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| 19:22 | !pastebin
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| 19:22 | <ltsp> pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 19:24 | <brentb2> alright, back
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| 19:24 | the content to lstp-info is at http://pastebin.com/zNdpNArF
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> Yup, you have an old and broken ltsp
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| 19:25 | <brentb2> aww ....
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> So, you need to add the greek schools ppa to your sources
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| 19:26 | <brentb2> I am familiar with and can navigate in ubuntu, but not a pro in any way.
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| 19:26 | I followed many guides to get this far
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> Let me ask you how you plan to use ltsp
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| 19:26 | Because there's an easier way to install it
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| 19:26 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 19:26 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 19:26 | <brentb2> I am the IT support in a company of ~50 employees
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> ...depending on your use case, that ^ might be the preferred way to install and maintain ltsp
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| 19:27 | <brentb2> we want some computers for the shopt floor
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| 19:27 | I figured a terminal server should suffice, and I am a fan of linux
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| 19:27 | <alkisg> Client specs, cpu/ram, and client use, e.g. web browsing, youtube, videos...
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| 19:27 | <alkisg> And how many clients
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| 19:28 | <brentb2> No videos, very light browsing
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| 19:28 | they will be connecting to our erp software on another server
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| 19:28 | it is a client/server erp, so should not be resource heavy
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| 19:29 | <alkisg> Do you have existing clients? How much ram/cpu do they have? how many are there?
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| 19:29 | <brentb2> there are no existing clients. I will be purchasing them. but I want to do a very thin client
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| 19:29 | there will be ~10 maybe 15
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| 19:30 | right now it is proof of concept
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| 19:30 | I need to verify I can get it working before I can get anything approved
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| 19:31 | right now i am just testing with a blank vm. 1g RAM 11cpu
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| 19:31 | 1cpu*
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| 19:32 | I remember reading that ltsp could even be run on client side using something as low spec as a rasberri pi
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| 19:33 | <alkisg> The minimum specs are 128 ram, pentium II
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| 19:33 | But the user experience is lame there
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| 19:33 | It's way better *not* to use thin clients, but normal clients (always diskless in ltsp)
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| 19:33 | So you can buy a dual core "thin client" with 2 GB RAM and use it as a netbooted diskless ltsp fat client
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| 19:34 | That's the best user experience
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| 19:34 | If you do want to buy thin clients, of course you can; but note that even scrolling the erp web page won't be as smooth as with fat clients
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| 19:35 | I'd suggest that you try ltsp-pnp with a normal desktop pc as a test client,
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| 19:35 | and then, with the same client, put LTSP_FATCLIENT=False and check if you prefer it as thin or as fat
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| 19:35 | <brentb2> That will be test 2
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| 19:35 | Once i can get it running properly on my vm
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| 19:35 | <teknkik> fat clients are generally the way to go
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| 19:36 | <brentb2> I will then try on a desktop booting from network
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| 19:36 | <teknkik> if your hardware is newer than like 2000
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| 19:36 | <brentb2> where is that LTSP_FATCLIENT located?
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| 19:36 | <alkisg> If you want to try both thin and fat clients, you'd better reinstall with the ltsp-pnp method
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| 19:36 | If you want to fix and test only your thin chroot, and the ppa to your server and your chroot
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| 19:37 | <brentb2> just sudo apt-get ltsp-pnp?
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| 19:37 | <alkisg> No, read the wiki page
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| 19:37 | <teknkik> and w/ fat clients server side requirements are way lower
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| 19:37 | <alkisg> !ltsp-pnp
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| 19:37 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 19:39 | <brentb2> I will go read up on that article.
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| 19:39 | is there going to be a lot of cleanup to get rid of my current installation?
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| 19:41 | sudo apt-get --purge remove ltsp-server
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| 19:42 | I followed this guide http://blog.bobbyallen.me/2015/07/19/setup-a-ubuntu-14-04-lts-mate-terminal-server-with-ltsp/
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| 19:47 | <alkisg> brentb2: if you run this in your current installation:
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| 19:47 | sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp
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| 19:47 | sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove ltsp-server-standalone ltsp-server
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| 19:47 | ...then you can continue with the ltsp-pnp wiki page
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| 19:47 | * alkisg waves, later... | |
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| 19:49 | <brentb2> Thank you for the help. going to give this a shot.
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| 21:24 | <brent_> Hello again. I have completed the install using ltsp-pnp and was able to get connected. The bar at the top is now in tact.
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| 21:25 | This is kind of odd, but it shows the wireless connection, and shows empty. Like I do not have internet access, however I am able to browse the internet just fine
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| 23:14 | <user__> Is anyone here?
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| 23:15 | <vagrantc> !ask | echo user__
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| 23:15 | <ltsp> user__ ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 23:15 | <user__> thanks - I can't stay now, but will try again later
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