IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 28 August 2012   (all times are UTC)

00:17
<markit>
just for record, the porblem with my bonding was... heat! With the case open, and the video board just below the 2 nics, after some time they started behave mad... at least, this is the current conclusion, lol
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04:37
<qwebirc7673>
anybody online? I'm having trouble with setting SCREEN_xx=rdesktop -f hostname All I get is a black screen with a white mouse pointer.
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04:37
<qwebirc7673>
No idea what the problem is, or really how to debug it.
04:38
<knipwim>
qwebirc7673: what does the -f option do?
04:38
<qwebirc7673>
full screen
04:38
I have SCREEN_02=xterm and from that xterm I can run the rdesktop command no problem.
04:39
I can ping the Terminal Server etc... but when I set SCREEN_03=rdesktop I get nothing (just the blank screen)
04:47
<dead_inside>
i think there are some rdesktop config variables
04:47
one sec
04:49
leave SCREEN_03=rdesktop
04:49
set RDP_SERVER=ip.of.the.rdpserver
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04:50
<dead_inside>
qwebirc7673 ^^
04:51
if u need to pass the options
04:51
RDP_OPTIONS = "-f -u xxxxxxx -p xxxxxxx -k en-us"
04:53
<qwebirc7673>
As best as I can tell you don't have to set RDP_OPTIONS or RDP_SERVER if you include all of it in the SCREEN_XX="xfreerdp <options> <hostname>"
04:54
I just took the screen.d/xterm script, made a copy and hacked it to work with xfreerdp and that's working just fine.
04:54
<dead_inside>
lol cool, cant say i have ever actually used rdp, just found the config online
04:54
<qwebirc7673>
Maybe a bug in the screen.d/xfreerdp script? Perhaps something that doesnt' work on CentOS? Not sure, but I have it working now
04:55
That said, I'm gonna try setting the RDP_ variabbles in lts.conf and seeing if that makes those scripts work.
04:57
<alkisg>
qwebirc7673: what ltsp version does centos have?
04:58
<qwebirc7673>
5.2
04:58
Am I fighting a losing battle trying to run LTSP on CentOS6?
04:58
<alkisg>
Yeah I think at that point there were some bugs at xfreerdp script...
04:58
<qwebirc7673>
I know Ubuntu is the most typical distribution
04:58
<alkisg>
Well if you've gone so far, it shouldn't matter now
05:00
<qwebirc7673>
Hopefully someone will release an updated ltsp package for CentOS6 at some point
05:06
<knipwim>
qwebirc7673: CentOS uses the fedora packages right?
05:07
<qwebirc7673>
yip
05:07
are the Fedora packages still being maintained?
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05:10
<knipwim>
not at the moment I believe
05:10
but I heard warren was training a replacement for him
05:11
don't know if that includes the ltsp packages
05:13
qwebirc7673: btw, here is the most recent xfreerdp script (same as rdestkop)
05:13
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/view/head:/client/share/ltsp/screen.d/xfreerdp
05:14
<alkisg>
!learn qwebirc as If you're planning to join this IRC channel via web multiple times, it might be a good idea to set some username by typing e.g. "/nick john123", so that channel members can identify you and remember your use case / previous questions etc
05:14
<ltsp>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
05:15
<dead_inside>
lol
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05:15
<dead_inside>
he needed his own command
05:15
!ask alkisg
05:15
<ltsp>
dead_inside: Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
05:15
<alkisg>
It's true though, at first I got puzzled by the many qwebirc users, I thought he was the same one getting disconnected!
05:15
<dead_inside>
!alkisg
05:15
<ltsp>
dead_inside: alkisg: The LTSP oracle. Our beacon of hope in the world of LTSP. With the guidance of this divine emperor, we shall prevail.
05:15
<dead_inside>
there we go
05:15
<alkisg>
:P
05:15
<zeut>
sorry 'bout that, never been much of an IRC guy...
05:16
Thanks for the link to the latest script. Gonna give that a shot in a few min.
05:16
<dead_inside>
its all good zeut, just giving u a hard time :D
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05:17
<zeut>
no worries...
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05:19
<knipwim>
alkisg: btw I checked the break at 50-fstab, but it seems the initramfs is remounting rw
05:19
so my debugging will be concentrated on that
05:20
<alkisg>
knipwim: and by remounting it ro at that point, did you see any improvement?
05:20
mount -o remount,ro /
05:21
<knipwim>
no, it might be a good idea to do this manually in the initramfs
05:21
and see what happens
05:21
<alkisg>
I think you could also try that in the 50-fstab shell, and see if it makes some init scripts behave differently...
05:22
<knipwim>
smart!
05:22
<alkisg>
So now basically the problem that's left is the ssh/login problem?
05:22
...and /home/username mounting?
05:22
<knipwim>
i guess, the ssh to the server
05:23
it authenticates on the server, but then logs in on the client
05:23
<alkisg>
It'll boot as a fat client by default though
05:23
And also, we'll need some way to specify if we want a local /home or not
05:23
<knipwim>
yes, the ltsp.server parameter really worked!
05:24
<alkisg>
The current code logic is "if /home/username is on a different partition than /, it means that the sysadmin mounted it via other means, and we don't want to use a server sshfs mount"
05:24
But that logic isn't always sound
05:24
We could hide the local /home if needed in some cases...
05:25
<knipwim>
where is that logic located?
05:26
in which file
05:26
<alkisg>
in the login script that does the su / sudo part, let me check...
05:26
./client/localapps/ldm-rc.d/X01-localapps
05:27
I think that we still need a way to override the defaults, but the current logic is sane, i.e.:
05:27
local boot with /home/username existing: it should be used, to save bandwidth
05:28
...and to reuse the account data (if I'm logging in to some ltsp server from my laptop, I'd like to have my home mounted, not a new server home created for me)
05:28
local boot with /home/username missing: mount it from the server
05:29
Although there are still cases where I'd want to use the server /home/username even if a local one exists, hence the need for overriding this...
05:29
<knipwim>
bbiab
05:30
<alkisg>
So maybe PREFER_LOCAL_HOMEDIRS=True/False
05:31
Or, LOCAL_HOMEDIRS=one of "ALWAYS_LOCAL, PREFER_LOCAL, ALWAYS_SERVER"
05:32
And of course local homedirs only make sense for fat clients, not thins
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05:53
<knipwim>
alkisg: cool, i'll look at it later, my workday starts first :)
05:53
<alkisg>
knipwim: sure, have a nice day
05:55
<knipwim>
thx, you too
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06:09
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: why not put "ltsp_user[0-9]" instead of qwebirc as the user name, like we do with epoptes_user[0-9]?
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06:10
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=ltsp_user.&channels=ltsp&prompt=1
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<vagrantc>
Boo
06:12
Meh it shouldn't allow getting an irc name that's registered...
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07:28
<ltspguest56>
o hi
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07:51
<markit>
alkisg: hi, probably my bound problems were due to.... HEAT!
07:51
with the case open, the video board was "burning" the 2 nics above
07:52
since I booted with the old, sure working config, and everything was messy too
07:52
(btw, I've also update the switch firmware in the meantime, lol)
07:53
Witht the system cooled down, at least the old config was workinf fine, today (I've sleept too few hours) I'll try with the 12.04 one
08:15
<alkisg>
Hehe, stupid heat problems... I'm using my laptop as a desktop pc, with an external monitor etc. And in order to have a completely silent environment, I'm putting the laptop in a ...drawer. This made my previous laptop's nvidia card overheat + burn a few years back.
08:15
Since then, I'm putting a completely frozen bottle of water in the drawer twice a day, and everything's fine!!! :D
08:21
<markit>
alkisg: one hw question, one software: hw, I've moved the video card 1 slot below, the pc works, but wondered if is ok, or the "video pci-express" slot that MUST be used is the one near the cpu, the other only for SLI or whatever is called
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08:22* alkisg prefers onboard cards for the server, they don't need extra drivers and they don't overheat :)
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08:22
<markit>
the software one: I've no understanding of the sshkeys and certificate stuff. If I change the IP of the nic that faces the clients, do I have to ltsp-recreate-ssh? and what about epoptes and the certificate?
08:23
<alkisg>
There are some differences in pci-e slots, some are x16, some x1 etc, but I haven't caught up with hw advances since the i386 era... if it works it should be ok
08:23
<markit>
ehm, onboard card for "real" server has been a nightmare for me.. so unpower that were unable to manage the fullhd res screen of the teacher
08:23
maybe you don't have the teacher use the server :)
08:23
<alkisg>
We do
08:24
<markit>
oh, fujitsu server I had in a school had a miserable on board video, and no video slots :(
08:24
<alkisg>
About the sshkeys: in newest ltsp versions we allow the server to change IP without having to run ltsp-update-sshkeys, I'm not sure if 12.04 contains that newer code or not (our ppa does)
08:24
About the epoptes keys: no ip checking is done
08:24
<markit>
I had to put a nvidia card in a pciexpress 1x slot, really slow but much better than the "on board", in any case does not work fine. So next buy I asked for a "workstation" and not a server
08:25
<alkisg>
For HD resolution, you can usually force that with xrandr
08:25
<markit>
alkisg: oh, is there a way to have an updated ltsp with easy? Your ppa? Only in greek?
08:25
<alkisg>
It contains the debian wheezy ltsp version
08:26
Don't update your ltsp installation with that, the newest ltsp has incompatible configuration files with the one shipped with 12.04. It's only meant for new installations.
08:26
<markit>
alkisg: well, resolution and color depth, was so underpowered that you coudl not have both, and in any case was slow like hell in moving windows etc
08:26
"incompatible configuration files" urgh
08:26
<alkisg>
PPAs don't have "languages", they have "packages"...
08:27
<markit>
yep, I mean with only greek language support
08:27
<alkisg>
It's upstream LTSP, not some special localized version of it...
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10:06
<jimjimovich2>
is there a way to access the variables in lts.conf in a bash script?
10:06
on the client
10:09
<knipwim>
jimjimovich2: getltscfg -a
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10:17
<jimjimovich2>
knipwim: that's not working for me
10:18
<knipwim>
are you logged in on a booted client
10:18
<jimjimovich2>
yeah, as root
10:18
<knipwim>
via a localapps xterm or something?
10:18
<jimjimovich2>
the command prints all the variables then exports them
10:18
<knipwim>
ah
10:18
<jimjimovich2>
via Epoptes
10:18
but then when I echo the variable, i get a blank variable
10:18
<knipwim>
that's what you asked right? a way to access the variables?
10:18
<jimjimovich2>
yes
10:19
<knipwim>
i don't think the command actually exports them
10:19
then you have to eval the getltscfg command
10:19
<jimjimovich2>
how would one use them in a bash scrip?
10:21
never mind, i figured it out
10:21
the documentation was a bit confusing
10:22
<knipwim>
eval $(getltscfg -a 2>/dev/null)
10:22
is actually used in ltsp to get the variables
10:23
if you use that in a script, you have the variables there
10:23
<jimjimovich2>
thanks!
10:23
<knipwim>
np
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10:41
<sha_>
hey, i don't get how to login to a windows-server from ldm. is this possible? at least there is a "select backend..."-box where you can select rdesktop, but how do you specify the server/rdp-session? I tried adding it to LDM_SERVER and don't have another idea
10:42
(i'm aware of additional rdp-sessions/scripts on another VTs...)
10:46
<knipwim>
sha_: you specify the rdp server in your lts.conf
10:46
<Hyperbyte>
sha_, SCREEN_07=rdesktop <arguments>
10:46
:)
10:46
<knipwim>
for instance, SCREEN_05="rdesktop -u wim 192.168.0.20"
10:47
!rdesktop
10:47
<ltsp>
knipwim: Error: "rdesktop" is not a valid command.
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10:48
<knipwim>
this calls for a wiki page :)
10:49
<sha_>
but this would replace ldm, right?
10:49
<knipwim>
not necesarily
10:49
depends on what you want
10:50
by default, the tty goes to tty7, which is configured with ldm
10:50
<sha_>
i want to be able to choose within ldm between a linux- and a windows-session
10:50
<knipwim>
when you set rdesktop to SCREEN_05, you can ctrl-alt-f5 to view the rdesktop screen
10:50
<sha_>
yes
10:51
<knipwim>
within ldm, i don't know
10:51
<sha_>
but i'm really confused why there is a "select backend.."-box where you can choose rdesktop, when it's not possible to choose a rdp-session
10:51
<knipwim>
Hyperbyte: ^^^ ?
10:51
sha_: it's probably possible, but i don't know it
10:51
<sha_>
so what is this "select backend" used for?
10:58
<Hyperbyte>
That's a very good question. :-)
10:59
<sha_>
hmm :)
10:59
<Hyperbyte>
Maybe one of the developers can answer that. :)
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11:00
<Hyperbyte>
What exactly do you want to do with rdesktop?
11:00
Do you want to let your users choose if they want to work on Windows or on Linux?
11:00
Or do you just want to make certain Windows applications available via rdesktop?
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11:02
<sha_>
no, just let the user choose. it'd be really nice to have that option while testing and migrating users to Linux, and also for a fallback for some time.
11:03
it would be much more elegant to let the user choose that from ldm instead of rebooting or to teach ctrl+alt+fn
11:04
especially since i disabled ctrl+alt+fn because the windows users are used to ctrl+alt+fn for their windows-app...
11:04
s/for/in/
11:05
<Hyperbyte>
sha_, you could use a PXE menu I think
11:05
So during boot you can choose if you want rdesktop or ldm session
11:05
<sha_>
i do that, but that still means rebooting
11:05
<Hyperbyte>
But I suppose it's possible to select rdesktop backend via ldm to choose Windows session somehow
11:05
Thing is... I've never done it, and neither has knipwim from the looks of it. :)
11:06
<sha_>
so yes, when it's not possible, that's the way to go... i'm just confused from the "select backend" box
11:06
<Hyperbyte>
You need someone with experience with that, or a developer to tell you if it works and how.
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11:06
<sha_>
yeah, _if_ it's possible, it seems completely undocumented
11:08
<Hyperbyte>
I'm also not convinced the menu screen script would require a reboot
11:08
See /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/menu
11:09
It may even be the most elegant (from a user standpoint) way to do this, but also no experience with it.
11:12
<Bootless>
hi i face currently the problem that our ltsp root server got unusable and i am setting up a new one but i get stucked at the point where the thinclient boots up. it says that it cannot find the image. i checked every config where a wrong path could be and found nothing. i checked the pxelinux.0 path too. i hope someone can give me a tipp. thanks
11:19
<Hyperbyte>
Bootless, ls -al /opt/ltsp/images/
11:19
<Bootless>
just gives the i386.img file
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12:31
<Bootless>
okay i found the problem. it was that i specified the path in the dhcp config and not just the filename
12:31
but now i am facing the problem that the root server choose himself as the appserver and not one of the configured ones. has anyone an idea?
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14:16
<cliebow>
how can i get rid of a stale nfs mount gracefully?
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14:43
<Hyperbyte>
cliebow, mount -f
14:43
Or rather
14:43
umount -f
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<cliebow>
much obliged!
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15:50
<importudo>
hi there
15:51
I just upgraded my lucid ubuntu to precise 12.04.1 but ltsp-build-client is anormal without giving any tip of what's happening
15:52
<alkisg>
Can you paste the whole output to pastebin?
15:52
!pastebin
15:52
<ltsp>
alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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16:26
<knipwim>
alkisg: is ubuntu using server/configs/lts.conf ?
16:26
cause i like to use it as default for gentoo
16:26
<alkisg>
knipwim: we're using it with `ltsp-config lts.conf`
16:27
I.e. manually, not as part of any postinst
16:27
We can override that too with distro specific lts.confs, if needed...
16:27
But we can also just talk about the default one, if different needs are expressed
16:27
<knipwim>
the services in RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES are not generic
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<alkisg>
Ah yeah :(
16:28
<knipwim>
so i'd like to comment them
16:28
same for RM_THIN_SYSTEM_SERVICES
16:28
else the file is fine
16:28
<alkisg>
Hmmm...
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<knipwim>
i was also thinking of a better way to deal with these services cross distro
16:29
<alkisg>
$ dpkg -L ltsp-server|grep lts.conf
16:29
/usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/lts.conf
16:30
<knipwim>
like having a canonical services list, from which the specific distro versions can be looked up
16:30
<alkisg>
So, we could make the existing lts.conf a "cross distro" one, and override it on debian/ubuntu from Debian/share/doc
16:31
<knipwim>
in the meantime that would be a good one
16:31
<alkisg>
I'm not sure if ltsp users would like that... let's compare services and see how different they are
16:31
<knipwim>
gentoo has a Gentoo/configs btw
16:32
<alkisg>
$ ls /etc/init /etc/init.d | pastebinit
16:32
http://paste.ubuntu.com/1172110/
16:32
What services do you have in gentoo?
16:32
<knipwim>
http://dpaste.com/792650/
16:34
a lot are the same
16:36
<alkisg>
I don't have those, but of course I don't have e.g. xinetd installed etc: http://paste.debian.net/186070/
16:37
So, let's see, can we map any of those to debian/ubuntu services?
16:37
If not, there's no point in trying to do cross distro service mapping...
16:39
I think only a few, syslog etc, probably not worth the additional documentation + lookup overhead...
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<knipwim>
true
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<brandont>
Where can i find a full list of what can be done with lts.conf? man lts.conf seems incomplete
16:40
<knipwim>
some are one-to-many i think
16:40
or even many-to-many
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16:40
<alkisg>
Yeah... fuse / mountall, no mapping there
16:40
<knipwim>
brandont: what are you missing?
16:41
<thebwt>
knipwim: not sure I managed to find cups_server via random googling, that made life easier
16:41
knipwim: I'm just wondering what other arcane insights I can glance from it
16:41
<knipwim>
alkisg: btw, you put them in /doc because they're examples and not (yet) actual configs?
16:41
<alkisg>
knipwim: so I'd vote for RM_*_SERVICES to be distro-specific... do comment out RM_*_SERVICES from the existing lts.conf, or only leave some "common" services there, and we can override it in debian/ubuntu in the next release
16:41
knipwim: no, the idea is that we don't want a config by default
16:42
So we ship examples, and when the sysadmin runs ltsp-config lts.conf, ltsp-config dnsmasq, ltsp-config dhcpd, then we copy them to actual locations
16:42
And we're presumably supporting localized configuration files even
16:42
<knipwim>
yeah, i was looking at the code, the examples are put into /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples
16:42
<alkisg>
E.g. for greece, the sch-scripts package ships its own lts.conf, in greek, but we're still using ltsp-config lts.conf to install it
16:43
<knipwim>
cool
16:43
localized packages
16:44
<alkisg>
thebwt: whatever's not in lts.conf, can only be found by looking at the code or mailing lists or googling, but every one you find that's not in lts.conf is worth a bug report so that we include it
16:44
<thebwt>
alkisg: understood, thanks!
16:44
<alkisg>
*in the man page, I meant
16:44
<thebwt>
i figured
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<alkisg>
knipwim: do you think it's a good idea to put the documentation for the lts.conf variables inside the code itself (where each one is defined/used), and have a tiny script generate the lts.conf manpage?
16:54
Another idea is to only have a small header inside the docs, e.g. # LTSVAR: xxx, TYPE: yyy, DEFAULT: zzz
16:55
This can give us a complete variable list, but we still need to manually document them
16:56
<knipwim>
document each use of a variable seems like a lot of duplicate code
16:56
for instance, SERVER gets used a lot
16:56
<alkisg>
No, not each use, only once
16:56
The first time where it's used/defined
16:57
<knipwim>
how do you know if it's defined or not?
16:57
<alkisg>
There are a few variables that get used a lot, but I don't think we'll have problems selecting one place to document them
16:57
Most variables are used in only 1 script, though
16:58
<knipwim>
it seems like a lot of work
16:58
and we have to be 100% thorough to catch them all
16:59
<alkisg>
E.g. I'd document SERVER in ./client/share/ltsp/init-ltsp.d/04-server
16:59
<knipwim>
or else we're just as complete as the current solution
16:59
<alkisg>
True, but the good thing is that then when we introduce new variables, we'll always document them, as it doesn't need a separate push in ltsp-docs
17:00
<knipwim>
ah, i got a nice one, NBD_ROOT_HOST at the start of 03-kernel-cmdline
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<knipwim>
isn't defined anywhere
17:00
as far as i can tell
17:00
<alkisg>
We can also create a small script that greps for `set_lts_var`
17:01
Or for CAPS=
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(although that's supposedly the wrong thing to set a var...)
17:01
*way
17:02
<knipwim>
isnt there a bashdoc syntax or something?
17:02
<alkisg>
And yet another idea is to ditch ltsp-docs and maintain the list in the wiki, along with the ltsp version/distros where each var is supported, and then extract the manpage out of the wiki page
17:04
In the future, I want to develop an lts.conf editor, so the vars list + type + default + documentation will be handy there
17:04
<knipwim>
i like the code idea better, like the help2man idea you had
17:04
with that solution the ltsp-build-client man page was really distro specific
17:04
<alkisg>
Or, I could maintain them in the editor, and extract the manpage out of the editor code...
17:04
Yeah help2man and scripts are very handy in those cases
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<knipwim>
dinner is almost ready here
17:07
we'll probably continue this discussion later :)
17:07
<alkisg>
Have a nice appetite :)
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<alkisg>
ogra: any recommendations for an arm-based *fat* client LTSP lab?
17:51
(i.e. >= 1 Gb RAM...)
17:51
Does this sound ok? http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox/
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<ogra>
alkisg, still hard to get anything with >1G
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<alkisg>
=1 gb is good enough, I saw some in http://raymii.org/cms/p_Small_Linux_PCs_overview ...
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<alkisg>
ogra_, we won't have trouble netbooting them, will we?
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<ogra_>
for =1G i woudl go with pandas or the mx6 sabrelite
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<ogra_>
and netbooting really depends
18:03
the pandas and mx6 boards surely can do it ... but it depends on the HW (do you actually have a proper NIC, usually its just USB etc )
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<alkisg>
We want to do a pilot program with a school lab consisting of one amd64 server and 12 arm clients...
18:03
<ogra_>
ah, nice
18:03
i think wyse (or now dell) produces some actual arm thin clients
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<alkisg>
Oooh 2 Gb RAM, 4 max: http://www.wyse.com/products/cloud-clients/thin-clients/D50D
18:09
<ogra_>
"with a dual-core AMD 1.4 GHz"
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<knipwim>
or the raspberry pi, but that has far less mem http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=558
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<ogra_>
LOL
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<ogra_>
you realyl dont want to run a fat client on a RPi
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hell, you dont want to run *more than one app* on a RPi
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<alkisg>
Yeah it sounded more of thin client material
18:11
<ogra_>
RPi is crappy overly expensive HW that you can use to build harddis recorders
18:11
<alkisg>
That looks reasonable... though a bit expensive, like all wyse thin clients...: http://www.wyse.com/products/cloud-clients/thin-clients/T50
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<ogra_>
if you want something for an equivalent price but actually use it, get a beaglebone
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<ogra_>
alkisg, look which OS it comes with ;)
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<alkisg>
;)
18:14
<markit>
I've to move a dir in almost all accounts .tuxpaint/saved/ to a new location, i.e. Images/saved, any easy to do loop?
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<markit>
btw, I blanked /etc/passwd by mistake, thanks God a passwd- existed
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<alkisg>
markit: is that dir root-owned or inside the user home dir, user-owned?
18:16
And, move it or copy it?
18:17
<markit>
alkisg: I'm acting as sudo, I've "migrated" the accounts and the home dir, but now I've changed the default save dir of tuxpaint, and want to move the content
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from "old default position" to the new one, preserving ownership and ACL
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<alkisg>
So, from /home/username/.tuxpaint/saved to /home/username/Images/saved ?
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<markit>
mabe I should master the find and {}whatever command
18:18
exactly
18:18
for all users, dir could also not exist
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(i.e. teachers maybe have none)
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<alkisg>
Something like this: sudo -i; cd /home; for dir in */.tuxpaint/saved; do user=${dir%/.tuxpaint/saved}; echo mv $user/.tuxpaint/saved $user/Images/saved; done
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Remove the "echo" part if you see proper results
18:21
Btw it's much easier to do such stuff from autologin scripts
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You don't mess with loops that way, and you even have $XDG_* variables available, in case you want to move something to Documents, and you have multilingual students, so it can be e.g. Έγγραφα for them...
18:23* alkisg wishes english folders were used in all cases, and nautilus localized them, instead of them being localized in the file system...
18:23
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, 100% agreed
18:24
<markit>
autologin to move files? never used autologin scripts so far, I'll have a look
18:24
alkisg: btw, thanks a lot for the above script
18:25
<alkisg>
Erm sorry not "autologin", just "login" scripts
18:25
That check for pending sysadmin-related jobs, and if any exists, run them
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<alkisg>
(from inside the user session, not as root)
18:27
Adding settings and bookmarks, moving files etc can be easily done this way
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<markit>
I know kde has something like that that can be done in javascript (sigh) and are of 2 flavours, one done each login, the other only once and then no more
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20:14
<jammcq>
hey friends
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20:17* vagrantc waves to jammcq
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<alkisg>
!j
20:17
<ltsp>
alkisg: j: jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:17
<jammcq>
:)
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<Hyperbyte>
Hey jammcq :)
20:30
<jammcq>
hey Hyperbyte
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20:31
<Hyperbyte>
How's things? :)
20:32
<jammcq>
things are good. busy as always
20:32
<Hyperbyte>
Good. :) You gonna make the meeting thursday?
20:33
<jammcq>
yeah, i'll be around
20:33
<Hyperbyte>
Awesome. :)
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<elias_a>
Meeting? IRL? You gotta be joking! :D
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