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Channel log from 18 July 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<avlis>
Hi!
05:57
someone can give a help finding what are the best (best price quality) thin client's for ltsp?
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
08:52
<cliebow_>
Hey!!
08:55
<sbalneav>
Hey cliebow_
08:55
Saw yesterday you didn't get a job. You not working at the school anymore?
08:55
<cliebow_>
i am still..
08:56
but getting disgusted
08:56
i had my oar in at College of the Atlantic
08:56
<sbalneav>
What's up?
08:56
<cliebow_>
but they say they found someone "more qualified
08:56
"
08:56
<sbalneav>
If you don't mind my asking?
08:57
<cliebow_>
they are trying to consolidate schools to "save money"
08:57
our superintendent already jumped ship
08:57
and left the state..
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<cliebow_>
state subsidy for ellsworth is short now about a million so everything seems to bre on the block
08:58
<sbalneav>
ah, yeah. "The Axe". Lots of atrocities get perpetrated in the name of the almighty dollar.
08:59
<cliebow_>
i am at a standstill with ltsp here..the donated terminals wont run a 2.6 kernel..and there is no money to replace
08:59
i thought id lost the entire lab ..
08:59
but i guess at least that survived
08:59
<sbalneav>
What terminals are these?
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<cliebow_>
netvista pos
09:00
perfect size
09:00
require an uncompressed kernel;
09:01
<sbalneav>
Will an older ltsp version work?
09:01
<cliebow_>
yes..4,1 works fine
09:01
<sbalneav>
Stick with that for the moment then.
09:01
<cliebow_>
but i cant justify to much dev work on ltsp 5 8~(
09:01
<sbalneav>
:)
09:01
<cliebow_>
so i have a little test network..but no mandate to deploy
09:02
<sbalneav>
So, no-ones gotten a 2.6 kernel to work on a netvista?
09:02
<cliebow_>
college of the Atlantic is big on zero carbon footprint..i thought it would be perfect place for ltsp
09:02
no one has..
09:02
on a 2200 that is
09:02
the 2800 will work
09:03
that ibm guy worked on it
09:03
<sbalneav>
Well, you can still just put ltsp4.1 on edubuntu. What's the diff between a 2200 and a 2800?
09:03
<cliebow_>
ummm..pbranger
09:03
2800 has a bios that willpxe
09:04
2200 is proprietary..
09:04
scottie..i just havnt the justification to rebuild..
09:05
<sbalneav>
Hmm, bummer.
09:05
I can see why you want out. So what are they suggesting? Just not have a lab at all?
09:05
<cliebow_>
our tech coordinator booked it as well..he was a champion for ltsp
09:05
yeah..just ;leave the the two windows labs
09:06
also apple is pushing hard to be the os for Maine schools
09:06
<sbalneav>
Does the school division have a "old machine return policy"? Maybe you can get a bunch of abandoned old dell desktops or something for nothing.
09:07
<cliebow_>
just now decided to augment the laptop initiative
09:07
i have bunches of old dells..and etherboot cards going begging for a place to deploy
09:08
COA looked like a real great place to deploy ltsp
09:08
<sbalneav>
Why not toss them in?
09:08
<cliebow_>
i have already where i can..
09:09
<sbalneav>
But you can't sub for the netvistas?
09:09
<cliebow_>
it becomes a space problem too
09:09
yeah it could be done..
09:10
this job is becoming apple-centric..
09:11
<sbalneav>
Well, lets put it this way. Given the choice between being forced to work with Apples and being forced to work with MS, I know which one *I'D* choose as being more sane :)
09:12
<cliebow_>
yeah i guess..but im actively looking for some unix..jackson lab does a fair amount of unix
09:13
and better than 30 grand a year
09:14
<sbalneav>
Well, if you ever need a reference for your committment to Linux/Free Software, let me know!
09:14
<cliebow_>
sbalnev:Thanks!!
09:14
ill keep you posterd..
09:14
err posted
09:15
<sbalneav>
I'd mutch prefer it if you kept me plastered. :)
09:17
<cliebow_>
feeling is mutual..i'm trying to give up cigarettes..so that sounds not half bad..
09:18
<sbalneav>
Giving up cigs is like giving yourself a couple thousand dollar a year raise.
09:18
And that's AFTER TAX money, too.
09:18
<cliebow_>
yeah i know..but just one wouldnt hurt anything now would it...
09:19
<sbalneav>
Fight the urge.
09:19
Have a nice, cool glass of water.
09:19
<cliebow_>
getting tired of chewing..
09:20
you'd think after two weeks the gremlins would go away
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<avlis>
someone can give a help finding what are the best (best price quality) thin client's (machines) for ltsp?
09:26
<ogra>
avlis, disklessworkstations.com is a good starting point
09:26
<avlis>
ok thanks ogra!
09:26
<cliebow_>
avlis:some of us are biased cause diiskless directly supports ltsp
09:27
<Q-FUNK>
avlis: you can also try www.linuterm.com
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<McDutchie>
Hi all. I'm trying to use `xlock' on an LTSP terminal in order to password-protect an active login session. When I enter the `xlock' command in xterm, it does nothing but give the error message: "xlock: can not lock ws101.ltsp's display". Using LTSP 4.2 in combination with Slackware 11.0. Any ideas?
09:38
<avlis>
ok thanks all!
09:38
<sbalneav>
Who are you running the xlock as? The user logged into the terminal?
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<McDutchie>
sbalneav: yes, correct
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<sbalneav>
Not sure then.
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<McDutchie>
k, thanks anyway :)
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<cliebow_>
brb
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<MrChicken>
Hello
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<MrChicken>
I'm trying to get Icewm running... I've added exec /usr/bin/icewm-session to /etc/X11/Xsessions and so far I have had no luck
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any suggestions / ideas what to do now?
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<MrChicken>
I get the login screen, I log in correctly and then I get the terminal
11:12
staring at me
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<sbalneav>
Which terminal? An xterm? Or does X die?
11:14
What distro are you on?
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<MrChicken>
Xdies
11:16
Ubuntu 7.04
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<sbalneav>
Well, I know that's not what you're supposed to do.
11:22
I'm just poking around here, to see how to specify the default session
11:23
so undo whatever you did to /etc/X11/Xsession.
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and gimme a sec to figure out the right way.
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<MrChicken>
ok
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<sbalneav>
ok
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<ogra>
try:
11:24
<sbalneav>
here's what you want to do
11:24
<ogra>
sudo update-alternatives --install x-session-manager x-session-manager /usr/bin/icewm-session 50
11:24
<sbalneav>
lol, ok ogra, go
11:24
yeah
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<ogra>
;)
11:24
<sbalneav>
you beat me to it :)
11:25
<ogra>
and revert what you did manually
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<MrChicken>
I'm getting an error
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<ogra>
tell us
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<MrChicken>
it says something about syntax
11:29
says
11:29
--install needs
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link name path priority
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<ogra>
weird
11:29
works fine for me here
11:30
<MrChicken>
I'm calling a bash script
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<sbalneav>
Calling what bash script?
11:30
<ogra>
?
11:30
<MrChicken>
I installed lookxp
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which is nothing but icewm with a theme
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so I should run /usr/bin/lxp-startup
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<MrChicken>
:S
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<sbalneav>
MrChicken: What happens if you enter the line at the shell prompt exactly as ogra gave it?
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<MrChicken>
update-alernatives --install needs <link> <name> <path> <priority>
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I'm typing
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<ogra>
just copy/paste it :)
11:33
<MrChicken>
sudo update-alternatives --install x-session-manager /usr/bin/icewm 50
11:33
<ogra>
no
11:33
thats not what i gave you
11:33
<MrChicken>
oh right
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<ogra>
;)
11:34
<MrChicken>
I missed an x-session manager
11:34
d'oh!
11:34
Sorry
11:34
uhhh
11:34
:$:$
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ok that went well
11:35
It works!!
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<ogra>
indeed ;)
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<sbalneav>
So now, when you log in, you get icewm?
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<MrChicken>
yep
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<MrChicken>
ok now I need to get openoffice installed :)
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and the rest is done
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:P
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<ogra>
sudo apt-get install openoffice.org ?
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:)
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<MrChicken>
yeah I know that :P
11:40
but I do sudo aptitude
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<ogra>
fine as well
11:41
meh, building the ltsp image using a T170 as the server is somewhat slow
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but its funny serving thin clients from a thin client *g*
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<MrChicken>
:|
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<Gad1>
ogra: do you know if there is a pulseaudio dpkg for dapper?
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<ogra>
no, there isnt
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probably in backports
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<Gadi>
?
11:59* ogra points to http://packages.ubuntu.com/
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<Gadi>
ah
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doesn't look like it
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<ogra>
but it seems there isnt
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackportRequestProcess
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<Gadi>
:)
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<ogra>
pulse should be good for backporting
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i wouldnt know why not :)
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though i'm not sure you can get it into dapper since it wasnt in edgy
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12:05* Gadi looks into the (gak!) source... ;)
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<ogra>
:)
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<joebaker>
Pulse and Hal arent' getting along in the 2.6.20 kernel so I've heard. I've seen the problem on my Ubuntu Feisty laptop. Particularly after a suspend/resume.
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<joebaker>
It has something to do with detecting sound cards.
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<mike_>
hi all
12:20
we have a error on the client that says 'rpc failed :2
12:20
this is just after Running /scripts/nfs-premount
12:20
could anyone suggest anything please?
12:20
<joebaker>
Oh, I just enabled "Assistive Technologies" on one of our LTSP clients (Ubuntu Feisty (Rigged for XDMCP)) Now the user's desktop has problems opening some programs and not others. Firefox opens, but it's print dialog doesn't.
12:21
mike_ Is there any chance you're using ldap authentication?
12:21
<mike_>
no
12:21
<joebaker>
Sometimes if our LDAP hiccups, other wierd things happen.
12:21
Is portmap running?
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<mike_>
yes
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<joebaker>
Is there a chance your system has different names in DNS than /etc/hosts?
12:23
The thin client system/machine that is.
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<Gad1>
mike_: try restarting nfs
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and then type: showmount -e
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<Gad1>
and make sure it is exporting the ltsp dirs
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<mike_>
Gad1, Ok will do - thanks
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<mike_>
this is my /etc/hosts/ http://pastebin.ca/624954
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<mike_>
showmount e http://pastebin.ca/624956
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<mike_>
Gadi, does that showmount look correct?
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<Gadi>
that looks right for LTSP 4.2
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but, nfs-premount is an LTSP5 thing
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perhaps you "crossed the streams"? ;)
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<ogra>
*ZONK*
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<mike_>
I have been following http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto for 5.0...
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<indradg>
hi... i'm using LTSP 4.2 (on Fedora 7)... i'm having trouble in getting local cd-rom to work for me.... USB sticks (partitioned ones) work nice
12:36
what should be my checklist... ?
12:36
<ogra>
Gadi, ltsp-utils is still in debian ... i bet he used that together with ltsp5
12:37
<Gadi>
mike_: was there an earlier ltsp4.2 install on that machine?
12:37
<ogra>
!checklist
12:37
<ltspbot>
ogra: "checklist" is The checklist for debugging problems with local device access is at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting. Please work through all 12 steps, record the results, and paste the results to the pastebot at http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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<ogra>
indradg, ^^^^^
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<mike_>
no
12:38
just 5.0
12:38
<indradg>
ogra, copy that! will do it at office tomorrow :)
12:41
ogra, thanks for the cluestick! :P... IIRC, i think STEP 5 is where i'm getting it wrong... methinks the BIOS entries for IDE devices were set to NONE :P
12:42
ogra, will check back and confirm
12:42* indradg hates myself for missing such an obvious one :(
12:42
<ogra>
indradg, sbalneav is rather your man fr the details, i'm not relly familiar with the old ltsp
12:42
<indradg>
ogra, ok
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<mike_>
This is the dhcp.conf that i copied from a 4.2 install and edited for 5.0, does it look correct please? http://pastebin.ca/624969
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does anyone have any suggestions please? is it possible to run 5.0 on Debian?
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<sbalneav>
Back from lunch
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<Q-FUNK>
:)
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<sbalneav>
indradg: Have you worked through the checklist?
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!checklist
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "checklist" is The checklist for debugging problems with local device access is at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting. Please work through all 12 steps, record the results, and paste the results to the pastebot at http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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<Q-FUNK>
is there any place where we can put the boot options we want to pass to the kernel being bootstrapped e.g. vga=791 ?
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<sbalneav>
Q-FUNK: If you're on Debian or Ubuntu, you can put them in the pxeconfig file.
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<Q-FUNK>
something that would apply to both pxe and etherboot
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<sbalneav>
/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
13:13
No, etherboot you'd have to do from the dhcpd.conf
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<Q-FUNK>
ok
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<sbalneav>
It's been a long time since I did anything with etherboot. I remember you had to set some options. Check the mailing list archives, it'll be in there somewhere.
13:16
I replaced any stuff I had that was using etherboot about 5 years ago, so I'm rusty now :)
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<indradg>
sbalneav, was away !
13:19
sbalneav, we did check through most... except i think we didn't check the IDE status in the BIOS
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<sbalneav>
If the cdrom's there, you should be able to see it with dmesg on the terminal
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<indradg>
ok
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<MrChicken>
Hello... me again sorry
13:27
I'm having a strange problem when trying to boot from a DELL Optiplex GX50
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it seems like the kernel loads with no problem... but
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it reaches a point where it says ready (just before the ldm screen appears)
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and it just stays there forever and never changes
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(just did the test during the last hour and I never got the ldm screen)
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<MrChicken>
hello =)
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<jammcq>
ogra: ping
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<MrChicken>
I'm having trouble booting PXE from a Dell Optiplex GX50
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it reaches right before the ldm screen is shown
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<vagrantc>
jammcq, sbalneav: when do y'all hit portland ?
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<jammcq>
I'll get there at about noon on sunday
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sbalneav won't be there :(
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<vagrantc>
oh no!
13:37* vagrantc pouts a little
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<jammcq>
any idea when Ogra is getting there, and departing from there?
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<vagrantc>
saturday evening
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no idea on departure
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<joebaker>
What's happening in Portland?
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<vagrantc>
ubuntu-live and oscon ... a few LTSP folks likely getting together
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<whiprush>
should be fun!
13:49
ogra: sbalneav: My turn to buy beers!
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<vagrantc>
so, lessdisks.net expires tomorrow! :)
13:50
i've gotta celebrate by replacing all of freegeek's installations with LTSP :)
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: what was that you were saying about freegeek?
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<sir_veja>
hi guys
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need some help
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: freegeek's still running lessdisks ... i'm hoping to have it replaced with LTSP within the next couple weeks :)
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<sir_veja>
is it possible to run ltsp without dhcpd?
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: ah, cool
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<jammcq>
sir_veja: no, it's really required
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<sir_veja>
welll
13:56
For what?
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I have the boot rom running
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I have the server going
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<jammcq>
to get the IP address, and to get the filename of the kernel to download
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<sir_veja>
But i have the file there
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<jammcq>
and to get the path to mount as its root filesystem
13:56
where ?
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<sir_veja>
rom-atic has static ip address working
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<jammcq>
how is the thin client going to know its own IP address ?
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<sir_veja>
and the machine botts
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throug kernel parameters
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I know that's possible
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<jammcq>
that's fine for the bootrom, but once the Linux kernel starts running, it's going to use DHCP to go get the IP address again
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<sir_veja>
where can i change the boot parametr?
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<jammcq>
you'd have to muck with the initramfs, to tell it to NOT use dhcp
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why not just go ahead and use dhcp ?
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<sir_veja>
I'll Explain
13:59
I want to put the kiosks behind 3 routers
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and dhcp is not routable
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I really need static IPS!
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<vagrantc>
have fun.
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<jammcq>
sir_veja: what version of LTSP ?
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<sir_veja>
4.2
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everything was working fine
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until the school told me
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<jammcq>
well, you'd have to take the initramfs image, and unpack it. then edit the 'init' script to tell it to NOT call dhclient, and then hardcode the settings for ifconfig, and hardcode the root-path setting
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<sir_veja>
that dhcp was a no no
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14:03
can we pvt jammcq?
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<jammcq>
I've already told you what you need to do
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I don't really have time to spoon feed the answers. Like I said, LTSP doesn't support that.
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<sir_veja>
ok
14:05
but etterboot also get initramfs?
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<sir_veja>
i though that was only with pxe
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<sbalneav>
Yes, etherboot also gets the initramfs
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<jammcq>
the difference is, with etherboot, the initramfs is appended to the kernel, so only one big file is downloaded
14:06
pulling that apart is trickier
14:06
you'll need mknbi installed
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<cliebow_>
Thunder!! my /boot disappeared..
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<vagrantc>
sir_veja: what you propose to do is very complicated. if you don't already know what you need to do, and how complicated it is, and how much how work it is ...
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<jammcq>
then, you could take the initramfs and kernel from the pxe directory, modify the initramfs, then combine them with mknbi
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<sir_veja>
thank
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<Gad1>
ogra: I give up - what script is the new x config stuff in? (as it seems, ltsp-client-core no longer does it)
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<Gadi>
nm
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I see
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it moved from ltsp-client-setup to ltsp-client-core
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<sir_veja>
ok I did it
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thx 4 the tips
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<jammcq>
prpplague: hey
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<prpplague>
jammcq: hey
15:24
jammcq: whats cookin these days?
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<jammcq>
heh, just keeping busy
15:24
you in Dallas?
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<prpplague>
jammcq: sorta, Dallas/Ft.Worth area
15:25
jammcq: but yea
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<jammcq>
cool. got your whole family there yet?
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<prpplague>
jammcq: yea, donna finally got her green card last month, 3 years 8 months and 26 days after we applied
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<jammcq>
WOW
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congrats
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<prpplague>
jammcq: and they wonder why there are so many illegals in the US, people give up on doing it legally
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<prpplague>
jammcq: hows the TC biz?
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jammcq: oh, btw, ABCS got bought it
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<jammcq>
eh, it's ok
15:29
wow
15:29
by who ?
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<prpplague>
jammcq: i don't know exactly, other than it was a company that already owned several other software companies
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jammcq: its my understanding though, greg got about 50M out of the deal
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<jammcq>
so, greg's prolly cashed out, eh?
15:30
wholly crap
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<prpplague>
jammcq: yea
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<jammcq>
he could buy a few more helicopters, eh?
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<prpplague>
jammcq: hehe yea
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<jammcq>
I can just picture him flying along in his helicopter, enjoying a nice cold Dr. Pepper
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<prpplague>
jammcq: funny thing is i heard also the new owners were interested in linux based TC's but after they bought the company they realized that they'd not done any dev on the TC in years
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<prpplague>
jammcq: http://www.eci2.com/
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<prpplague>
jammcq: thats the new owners
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<prpplague>
jammcq: whats else is going on these days?
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<prpplague>
jammcq: whats ron upto these days?
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<jammcq>
he's on vacation this week. with his girlfriend up north somewhere
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<prpplague>
ahh
15:36
still speaking at conferences alot?
15:36
<jammcq>
not as much
15:36
I try to make it to Brazil every year. other than that, I pick up an occasional conf
15:37
heading to Portland for OSCON next week, but purely as an attendee
15:37
no stress
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<prpplague>
jammcq: why brazil?
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<jammcq>
umm, great conf, great people, great food. not necessarily in that order
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<prpplague>
jammcq: ahh
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jammcq: don't have any problems with anti-american issues?
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<jammcq>
well, the places I go are pretty friendly
15:39
for instance, I'm not speaking at any conferences in Beirut
15:39
err
15:39
Bagdad
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<prpplague>
jammcq: i meant more in brazil
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<jammcq>
no, brazil is incredibly friendly
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<prpplague>
interesting
15:40
i would not have thought so
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<jammcq>
scotty and I went there in april
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that was my 6th visit
15:42
we went to Paris last summer. I expected some rudeness, after all I've heard about the french. Turned out to be a wonderful trip.
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<prpplague>
jammcq: actually my bad, i'm think venezuela
15:42
jammcq: wow nice
15:42
<jammcq>
yeah, vz might be a difficult place to be
15:42* prpplague doesn't travel much anymore
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<jammcq>
I guess i've done alot of travelling lately. Spent a week in Spain back in May
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<prpplague>
jammcq: wow, nice world travel indeed
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<jammcq>
there's an Xorg developer conf in England in September. I might be there
15:44
I'm supposed to be there that is
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<prpplague>
jammcq: yea, i find alot of the conferences are more userland oriented these days
15:45
jammcq: from what i hear OLS has dropped alot since the change in the kernel summit
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<jammcq>
yeah, I didn't go, partly because of that
15:45
I might go next yr tho
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<prpplague>
jammcq: well the current rumor-mill is there isn't going to be OLS next year
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<jammcq>
wow
15:47
I know andrew hutton was really scrambling, trying to line up speakers AND attendees this year
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<prpplague>
jammcq: i was thinking of attending ESC and/or CELF
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<jammcq>
where's that?
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<prpplague>
jammcq: both are in san fran
15:52
jammcq: the arm conference is in santa clara,ca
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<jamie>
anyone tell me how to remove the logout button from gnome panel. Tried sabayon this only disables the button i need it removed.
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<mistik1>
You know its question like that which make me realy dislike the heck out of Gnome
17:54
no slight at all against you jamie, but something that simple should not have to be asked to be understood in a desktop environment.
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<whiprush>
if you remove it in sabayon it will be removed on the user's desktops
18:19
that's what I do
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<jamie>
whiprush: This is not happening for me. It for some strange reason keeps coming back. But all the other changes are there. But this.
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<whiprush>
ah, that's odd
18:40
you can probably remove it from the gconf key manually, sec, let me look it up.
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/apps/panel/general/applet_id_list
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try removing it from there with gconftool
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<jamie>
Any tell me is it possibleto use xdmc with ldm? As there is no option on the login screen.
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<jammcq>
hello all
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<joebaker>
hello jammcq
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Mozilla Advisory: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/byid?searchview&query=mozilla_20070717
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<joebaker>
hi sbalneav Scotty right?
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<sbalneav>
Yep
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<jammcq>
!s
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<ltspbot>
jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<dberkholz>
hey jammcq -- got any main hacking times in mind at oscon?
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<jammcq>
hmm, nothing setup yet
21:51
i'll be in tuturials all day monday and tuesday
21:51
but i'll be around all afternoon sunday, and monday/tuesday eve might be good
21:51
<dberkholz>
i won't even be there yet till wednesday, or tues night at the earliest
21:52
<jammcq>
hmm, i'm trying to find out when Ogra will be leaving
21:52
he's there for UbuntuLive, which goes through tuesday
21:52
so he might be leaving before you get there
21:52
<dberkholz>
if people are already leaving by then, i might be able to make a special trip on sunday
21:52
just for the day
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<jammcq>
I'll be there until about noon on friday
21:53
<dberkholz>
kinda odd to not stick around for oscon if you're already there, though
21:53
<jammcq>
and i've got something to do from 5-7pm on wednesday
21:53
<dberkholz>
only party i can't avoid is thurs night 6-8:30. other stuff is flexible
21:54
i might just try to get some work done during the day whenever there aren't any incredible sessions going
21:54
<jammcq>
yeah, but oscon is expensive, and i'm sure that canonical hasn't paid his admission to that
21:54
which one's thursday night?
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<dberkholz>
the exhibit hall is free, and the "hallway track" of course
21:54
open source lab
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<jammcq>
heh, "hallway track" is often the best one
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<dberkholz>
i'm not paying admission. i'm looking into a press pass, but if not i'll be just doing that
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<jammcq>
sourceforge is having a party thursday evening too
21:55
<dberkholz>
oh yeah? i don't really know anyone running it, so probably not gonna get an invite
21:56
i'm doing osl thurs, and maybe sun wednesday
21:56
otherwise doing some hacking wednesday
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<jammcq>
i'm sure that Randall Schwartz will be having one of his parties, so i'm gonna try and make sure i'm available for that
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<iMav>
do many people here run thin clients from disklessworkstations.com?
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I'm planning on setting up some thin clients for my kids when I get home (currently in Iraq).
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