IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 21 November 2019   (all times are UTC)

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07:13
<nithishsavar>
hi
07:13
<alkisg>
Hello
07:14
<nithishsavar>
i have problem in ltsp user access
07:14
i cant access sublime-text in user pc
07:14
<alkisg>
What is the error message?
07:15
<nithishsavar>
ltsp server has already installed sublime
07:15
<alkisg>
As a debian package?
07:15
<nithishsavar>
but, ltsp client not have the sublime
07:15
sublime-text
07:15
<alkisg>
How did you install it on the server
07:16
<nithishsavar>
apt -get install sublime-text
07:16
<alkisg>
What's the output of this command? apt policy sublime-text | nc termbin.com 9999
07:17
<nithishsavar>
host machine already installed the app
07:17
i can able to open a sublime in host machine
07:18
but client pc it shows like not installed
07:18
<alkisg>
Please provide the info I asked for
07:20
<nithishsavar>
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.https://termbin.com/qnjb
07:20
<alkisg>
And what is the output of the same command, on the client?
07:23
<nithishsavar>
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in script
07:24
<alkisg>
And the termbin URL?
07:24
<nithishsavar>
not showing
07:24
<alkisg>
Run just this: apt policy sublime-text
07:24
and paste the output here
07:25
<nithishsavar>
N: Unable to locate package sublime-text
07:26
<alkisg>
Did you run ltsp-update-image to send the package to the clients?
07:26
Did you reboot the clients?
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07:40
<Vladimir>
hello, is it possible to load freerdp instead of display manager in the new LTSP? Like screen.d scripts in LTSP5
07:40
<alkisg>
Vladimir: sure, see ltsp community issues on github, let me get you a link...
07:41
https://github.com/ltsp/community/wiki ==> 4 links to the right there
07:41
E.g. https://github.com/ltsp/community/wiki/xfreerdp
07:41
<Vladimir>
ty
07:41
<alkisg>
np
07:42
The chat for that wiki page is in https://github.com/ltsp/community/issues/48#issuecomment-553661573
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10:49
<alkisg>
!tftp
10:49
<ltspbot>
tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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13:54
<alkisg>
Moving ltsp.github.io to ltsp.org; don't worry if you can't access them for a while
13:54
<georgene_>
I JUST came here to ask where it went :D
13:55
<alkisg>
It was just gone for 5 minutes! :D
13:56
Ouch the web page needs to be re-published with the new url. Oh well, no noon nap :D
13:56
<georgene_>
I know! what a coincidence haha
13:56
grep grep grep
13:56
<alkisg>
Fun :D
13:57
<georgene_>
hugo is quite nice if you have not looked into it yet
13:57
I built this documentation site using hugo>> https://docs.dialing.se/
13:58
you can navigate with keyboard as well
13:59
<alkisg>
I haven't; but I need something that renders .md man pages nicely
13:59
As all the ltsp.org/man folder is just cloned from upstream man pages
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14:02
<georgene_>
hugo is perfect then as it works just with md formats
14:03
and if you want to throw a "backend" to your hugo site, you can use forestry.io, the free plan is all you need really
14:03
but im still undecided about the world of SSGs as there are new ones popping up all the time, hugo seems to have a good following and I've built a few sites with it already
14:04
it can generate 5000 pages in like 7 seconds...
14:04
<alkisg>
The idea is that I do *not* do web development :)
14:04
If someone wants to, they can do it for ltsp
14:05
So, I didn't have to install jekyll in my pc or anything
14:05
I just write .md, push, and github does the rest
14:05
If hugo can do the same, without me signing up to other servers or installing apps in my pc, great
14:05
<georgene_>
what are you currently using on ltsp.org?
14:06
<alkisg>
jekyll
14:06
<georgene_>
how are you rendering that?
14:06
ah okay
14:06
<alkisg>
It should be working now: https://ltsp.org/
14:06
<georgene_>
I mean, it's good enough, I think its nice and clean
14:06
yes its working
14:06
++
14:06
<alkisg>
Jekyll theme: just the Docs (link at the bottom)
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14:06
<Batmoine>
Hi all :)
14:06
<alkisg>
Hi Batmoine
14:07
<georgene_>
helloo
14:07
<alkisg>
georgene_: Not sure what to do with the previous URLs though... is www.ltsp.org a cname to ltsp.org now?
14:07
<georgene_>
yes
14:07
<alkisg>
OK because the github instructions were mentioning "cname to ltsp.github.io"
14:07
<Batmoine>
I'm having a little trouble in a classroom, all PCs start well on Linux, but none of them have access to the Internet
14:07
<alkisg>
...which doesn't really exist... yet that technique worked for epoptes.org. Meh
14:08
Batmoine: are you using ltsp? Which distro/version?
14:08
<georgene_>
no, its working fine, no errors
14:08
<alkisg>
georgene_: www.ltsp.org isn't working for me
14:08
Neither with http nor https
14:08
<Batmoine>
Ubuntu server 18, and the latest version of ltsp
14:08
<georgene_>
for me, it goes straight to https://ltsp.org/
14:09
<Batmoine>
Ubuntu desktop, sorry
14:09
<alkisg>
Batmoine: I'm going to guess you're using the old ltsp5, and not the new ltsp19, right?
14:10
<Batmoine>
no, it's good ltsp 19
14:10
not the 5
14:10
<georgene_>
single or double NIC?
14:10
<alkisg>
2 nic setup?
14:10
<Batmoine>
Single
14:10
and Chrootless
14:10
Based on : https://github.com/ltsp/ltsp/wiki
14:10
<alkisg>
Can I see with vnc?
14:10
!vnc-dide
14:10
<ltspbot>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
14:10
<Batmoine>
yes of course :)
14:18
<alkisg>
Batmoine: you had both ltsp19 and ltsp5 installed,
14:18
but you didn't delete the old dnsmasq file,so clients booted with ltsp5
14:18
A mixed thing
14:18
<Batmoine>
huh ?
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14:18
<Batmoine>
"Boot Failure"
14:20
ok, it boot
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<alkisg>
Hmm vnc hanged
14:21
But if it's working, all ok
14:21
Otherwise, re-run that vnc command to connect to me
14:22
<Batmoine>
ok
14:25
error, nothing more boot, more pxe :-/
14:26
ah, that's coming back
14:26
ok, it finds the PXE, but then: boot failure
14:26
<alkisg>
I'll need you to either upload a photo, or me to install virtualbox
14:27
Ah the server is a VM
14:27
Can't run vbox there
14:27
So ok upload a photo with your phone
14:27
<georgene_>
have you run 'ltsp dnsmasq'
14:27
<Batmoine>
yes
14:28
<georgene_>
can you verify that you're exporting the correct paths?
14:28
<Batmoine>
or do you want me to send the photo?
14:28
<alkisg>
Yes upload a photo while I update things
14:29
<Batmoine>
I send you the photo where?
14:29
<alkisg>
imgur.com or similar site
14:29
Reboot a client NOW though
14:29
after the updates that I did
14:30
<Batmoine>
Same error
14:31
https://www.noelshack.com/2019-47-4-1574346654-img-20191121-152737.jpg
14:31
<alkisg>
Batmoine: ok, now reboot again
14:32
<Batmoine>
same :)
14:34
<alkisg>
Batmoine: can you reboot and upload another photo now?
14:34
As now it won't be using undionly.kpxe, but ipxe.pxe
14:35
<Batmoine>
no pb
14:35
<alkisg>
Also, do you have another type of client, to try with that?
14:35
I think it's a problem with ipxe not supporting this client well
14:35
<Batmoine>
it started up before
14:36
<alkisg>
For example, I've seen clients that need this: unplug power, press power button for the capacitors to discharge, then plug power, then press power button again
14:37
<Batmoine>
ok
14:37
https://www.noelshack.com/2019-47-4-1574347039-img-20191121-153457.jpg
14:37
Same
14:39
I think I'm going to force the mayor to invest in hard drives ... :)
14:39
<alkisg>
Hehe
14:39
Do you have another type of client to test with?
14:40
<Batmoine>
unfortunately no, there are 17 machines, they are all identical
14:40
<alkisg>
Can you do the power test that I said? Unlpug power, push power button etc?
14:40
<Batmoine>
yes, but same error
14:41
I have to leave, thank you very much for your help anyway
14:41
<alkisg>
ok
14:41
bye
14:41
<Batmoine>
cya :à
14:41
:)
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14:46
<alexxtasi[m]>
Hi alkisg , a somehow irrelevant question
14:46
I ve seen here you talking about usign pelican static generator for hosting the new documentation, and now it's Jekyll...
14:46
any reason for this decision ?
14:47
(just curious)
14:48
<alkisg>
alexxtasi[m]: what is pelican?
14:48
I've never heard of it, maybe you remember something else?
14:49
<alexxtasi[m]>
a forgive me ... it was MkDocs
14:49
<alkisg>
Ah, I see it's a static generator in python... github doesn't support python
14:49
mkdocs yeah, but I'd need to run it locally and publish the result
14:49
While now I'm able to go online, edit .md files, and have the site updated, without access to my own pc to compile things
14:50
(so if others want to help with the site, it'll be much easier for them)
14:52
<alexxtasi[m]>
thanks
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15:57
<alkisg>
git-based wikies... a blessing: sed 's/ltsp.github.io/ltsp.org/g' -i $(grep -rl ltsp.github.io)
15:57
And all pages updated :)
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16:45
<alkisg>
!ltsp-image
16:45
<ltspbot>
ltsp-image: Generate a squashfs image from an image source: https://ltsp.org/docs/ltsp-image
16:45
<alkisg>
!ltsp-image
16:45
<ltspbot>
ltsp-image: Generate a squashfs image from an image source: https://ltsp.org/man/ltsp-image
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18:45
<vagrantc>
yay, we're back on ltsp.org! :)
18:50
<alkisg>
;)
18:51
It cost my noon nap, but... yey! :D
18:54
<vagrantc>
hah
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19:43
<Leolo_2>
ok, I have a strange problem
19:44
I'm running LTSP 5.4 on CentOS 6. I have a user with a fat client and a different user with a thin client
19:45
they are both opening an xterm with -fa Consolas-26. the fonts are different sizes
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<alkisg>
Do they have the same dpi?
19:51
Also, if they use remoteapps/localapps, do they get the ...other size of fonts?
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<Leolo_2>
all have same DPI
20:28
I'll have to try out remote vs local apps
20:29
question - given that xfs is no longer a thing, font rendering happens in X.org?
20:30
because the only thing I can think of is that "Consolas-26" being a truetype font, the rendering is being done differently in fat vs thin
20:30
but even then, that makes no sense
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