IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 24 October 2018   (all times are UTC)

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13:13
<mwalters>
OT: I know there's a few edu users here. Anyone using e2guardian for content filtering? Thoughts?
13:13
(My non-profit operates a private special education day school, looking for free/open solutions)
13:41
<Hyperbyte>
http://e2guardian.org/cms/index.php/support
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17:38
<robert45>
hi guys, I need to update firefox on my thin clients, does anyone know how to do this?
17:38
I heard something about chrooting to the client image and run the update in there?
17:38
<mwalters>
!ltsp-chroot
17:38
<ltsp>
Error: "ltsp-chroot" is not a valid command.
17:38
<mwalters>
D:
17:38
<vagrantc>
robert45: depends on what kind of environment you're running
17:39
robert45: if it's a thin client, just update on the server, if it's a chrootless client, just install it on the server and regenerate the image ...
17:39
if you've got a chroot, then you need to run updates in the chroot
17:39
<robert45>
vagrantc thanks. Im not sure, is there any easy way to find out what kind of environment Im running?
17:40
<vagrantc>
ls -d /opt/ltsp/*
17:41
<robert45>
vagrantc it shows: /opt/ltsp/i386 /opt/ltsp/i386.tar.z /opt/ltsp/images
17:41
<vagrantc>
ok, sounds like you have a chroot ...
17:42
<||cw>
and only a i386 one
17:42
<vagrantc>
ltsp-chroot dpkg -l firefox
17:43
<robert45>
vagrantc that command showed the firefox version I want to update! its there
17:43
<vagrantc>
ltsp-chroot apt update && ltsp-chroot apt upgrade
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&& ltsp-update-image
17:43
<robert45>
vagrantc that will update everything right? what if I want to update just firefox
17:44
can I run just apt-get update firefox?
17:44
<alkisg>
sudo ltsp-chroot, and then inside that shell, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
17:44
then exit and sudo ltsp-update-image
17:44* alkisg waves, btw
17:45
<alkisg>
vagrantc: so, mate doesn't kill the processes on logout (unrelated to ltsp, but it affects us on thin clients): https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-session-manager/issues/165
17:45
<vagrantc>
oh yeah, sudo... heh
17:45
<alkisg>
So I'm thinking to kill them on logout by default `pkill -u $LDM_USERNAME`
17:46
Can you think of some really down side on that?
17:46
<vagrantc>
alkisg: in the past, that caused systems to be unable to log in
17:46
<alkisg>
It does so now too
17:46
<vagrantc>
alkisg: it's been tried, and i reverted it
17:46
<alkisg>
And it even causes dconf corruption
17:46
Eh, I mean, without the kill, users are unable to login
17:46
<vagrantc>
the pkill actually caused failure to login as well
17:46
<alkisg>
With the kill, it works fine
17:46
And we do have the kill for fat clients
17:47
OK, so any other suggestions?
17:47
Of course I'm nudging people over at #mate-dev, but I'm not sure how fast a proper fix will be available
17:47
<vagrantc>
no other suggestions, just giving historical perspective
17:48
<alkisg>
Any explanations on why they couldn't login after that?
17:49
<vagrantc>
i suspect some daemons failed to shut down properly and corrupted somethingorother
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17:54
<alkisg>
vagrantc: howabout if I enable it for mate by default, and an opt-in for other flavours?
17:54
I.e. I'd check LDM_SESSION or something...
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18:08
<robert45>
I think it worked, thank you so much guys!
18:09
have a great day, bye!
18:09
<alkisg>
np
18:09
bb
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20:25
<alkisg>
It looks like a `pkill dbus-daemon -u $LDM_USERNAME` is enough for a clean logoff
20:25
That shouldn't be too bad to do by default...
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