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Channel log from 30 May 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<try2free>
!Partitions
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<ltspbot`>
try2free: Error: "Partitions" is not a valid command.
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<try2free>
sorry
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<moldy>
hi
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<wpgmb>
I'm thinking of running VirtualBox on my system, with a LSTP version as a guest os. Any recommendations? Hardware wise I should be okay; E8400 cpu with 8G RAM and enough HDD space.
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brb
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<Nubae>
yeah but running true virtualisation is recommended (kvm or xen) as with container VM u use aboutt 80% of original performance)
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There is something for ubuntu that is a total vm solution,, I forget the name but its like JeOS or something
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http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
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pronounced 'juice' heh
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<wpgmb>
mmm.. not sure if this is what I actually need... To clarify - currently I have my own system and a dedicated server running 8.04 LTSP server for 4-5 hosts in my home. I'd like to house the LTSP in my box as a virtual machine. Couldn't I just install a vanilla LTSP server as a virtual machine?
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<Nubae>
wpgmb: u probably could, but u are gonna run into quite a few problems
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LTSP is not meant to run virtualised
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<johnny>
what problems?
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other than resources
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<Nubae>
well generally its assumed u use an external /internal zone type setup
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that doesnt really fit with the vm model... but I guess if you seperate off the components it wouldnt be too problematic...
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but just on resources alone... it will run at about 80% of what it would do unvritualised
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<wpgmb>
"´╗┐well generally its assumed u use an external /internal zone type setup" clarify, please?
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<Nubae>
LTSP = 2 network cards
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<wpgmb>
Nubae: yes, I understand that.. That could simply be resolved by adding a couple of Nic's
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.. and dedicate those to the virtual LTSP server
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<Nubae>
theres more to take into account, those 2 nics are there for a reason, because normally its setup as internal serving dhcp to thin clients, surely those wont be virtual
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anyway, the biggest issue I think is its a waste
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and there are no benefits
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<wpgmb>
Ok - I must be missing some important point here. I was under the impression that a virtual machine can operate as if it were a stand-alone unit. Granted - some hardware is shared, but to the outside, a host connected to a virtual server doesn't know the difference, albeit somewhat performance challenged.
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<johnny>
that is true
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: ping
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<komunista>
hallo all
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I read the manual about LDM rc scripts
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I found about I, S and K scripts in this directory
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but in rd.d LDM's direcotry I found X script too
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<johnny>
/
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?
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<komunista>
please, when these X scripts are invoked?
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<johnny>
at the same time
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<komunista>
sorry, I do not understand
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I, S and K scripts are invoked in diferent time (initialization, start and stop session)
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<johnny>
oh, they are invoked last it looks like
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after start
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<komunista>
thanks
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: heya man
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<johnny>
hi
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<kc8pxy>
been quite a while. I'm trying to fix my genkernel initrd so it has not nin modules for broader support, so the nfs quits failing to mount.. but i forget how.
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nic
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<johnny>
edit the genkernel modules_load ?
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kc8pxy, i don't have a gentoo box anymore
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<kc8pxy>
really? wow.. it die?
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<johnny>
no, that machine is now ubuntu ltsp server at red emmas
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<johnny>
my laptop is too slow to run gentoo
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i'm using fedora 11
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<kc8pxy>
kk
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<johnny>
they wanted me to use ubuntu on the ltsp machine
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since we already run ubuntu on the other machine
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<kc8pxy>
MODULES_LOAD="" genkernel initrd .....??? i forget.
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<johnny>
no.. it's a file in /usr/share/genkernel
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<kc8pxy>
DOH.
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ok
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<johnny>
it's in a subdirectory therein
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: thx man. i remembered it wasin a file, but forgot which file it was.
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<grimboy>
In ubuntu, I'm booting with PXE. I've disabled the splashscreen and enabled verbose output. The ouput starts getting interesting after "IP-Config: eth0 complete (from ...)", then fixe lines of information then "Error: Connect: Connection refused". Later "mount: mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed: Invalid argument" and "mount: mounting /dev|sys|proc on /root/dev|sys|proc failed: No such file or directory". Finally "Target filesystem doesn
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What does it all mean?
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<johnny>
sounds like you're not running an essential service
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like nbd
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is nbd stuff properly in /etc/inetd.conf ?
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<grimboy>
Oh wait, yes ndb.
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I think the default configuration is broken I'll have a look.
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johnny: What port should nbd run on?
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(Since for some reason it's blank in my config)
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Hmm, my goggles aren't working too well. Anyone got a working /etc/nbd-server/config they can paste in or pastebin or what have you?
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There's /usr/sbin/nbdrootd which uses a configuration fileless nbd but it has the port set to 0
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<johnny>
it should be provided by /etc/inetd.conf
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not in /etc/nbd-server
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<grimboy>
There is an entry there. I'm having trouble understanding what's going wrong then.
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I don't know if this means anything but I get a connection refused trying netcat localhost 2000
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<johnny>
what does it say?
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is the openbsd-inetd running right now?
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<grimboy>
I'm using xinetd I think. Should I use openbsd-inetd instead?
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I know xinetd is working in inetd compatibile mode because tftp works.
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Wait, no it isn't.
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Ah, I ran that myself. So I need to install openbsd-inetd
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Works now. Whoo.