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Channel log from 8 January 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<Ryan52>
0.o
00:16* Ryan52 tries to figure out how the code vagrantc just pushed works
00:16
<Ryan52>
+ myGroups=$(echo ${myGroups},${myGroups1} | sed -e 's/^,//g' -e 's/,$,,g'
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that looks wrong.
00:17
no closing ")"
00:18
and the second part of the sed errors..
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<alkisg>
[non-ltsp-related, just need an experienced opinion]: I reboot my laptop e.g. 5 times per day. The default max-mount-counts (from tune2fs -c) is e.g. 25, so fsck runs about once every 5 days. Should I increase that, and to what number? (e.g. every 150 mounts=about once per month?)
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<cyberorg>
alkisg, i would disable it permanently and just let it run when there is abrupt shutdown
03:04
<alkisg>
cyberorg: wow, thanks! I've put a grub entry for manual fsck checking, so I'll disable it and use that when I open the laptop and have the time to wait for it... :)
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<alkisg>
!lts.conf
04:20
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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<alkisg>
Is CONFIGURE_X needed for the new XRANDR_* lts.conf options?
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<alkisg>
Hm... xrandr doesn't support setting color depth = 16 bit... :(
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<edyBUNTU>
Good morning!
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<xet7>
Moi :) Täällä Valamossa ollaan :)
06:09
<HaXeri>
Kansainvälinen kanava -> #ltsp-paja
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<jackli>
hi,everybody.
07:31
Hi,alkisg
07:31
<alkisg>
Hey jackli, what's up?
07:32
<jackli>
alkisg:hehe.
07:33
I run /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server manually everytime.what's simplest way to let it run automatically?
07:33
rc.local or add the script to session or others?
07:34
<alkisg>
Goto menu system => administration => services and see if it's enabled
07:35
<jackli>
alkisg:ok,thank you.I'll check it.
07:36
alkisg:In my ubuntu 8.10 box,It cannot save the ethernet settings.do you have this question?
07:36
I use netmanager 0.7.
07:38
<alkisg>
jackli: there were some known problems with networkmanager not saving the configuration, is this the ltsp server? If so, and it has a static IP, the simplest thing would be to uninstall nm...
07:39
<jackli>
alkisg:Yes,it is in ltsp server.
07:39
<alkisg>
So you don't really need the network manager, do you?
07:40
You could just put you static ip in /etc/network/interfaces...
07:40
<jackli>
alkisg:yes,but I found networkmanager is so simple to set the ip address.
07:41
<alkisg>
OK, look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/284298
07:42
So you should just use a newer version, which is not available in the standard repositories yet, so you should use a ppa.
07:43
<jackli>
alkisg:ok.
07:43
alkisg:I'd like to know one of your ltsp server supports how many clients?
07:43
I decide to buy a pc and make it as ltsp server.
07:43
<alkisg>
It depends on the usage. For OpenOffice, one simple server could support many dozens of clients (e.g. 50), but for multimedia applications it could even be less than 10.
07:44
How many clients do you have, and what usage do you expect?
07:44
<jackli>
30
07:45
<alkisg>
And typical usage? Any multimedia applications, like flash?
07:45
<jackli>
After I boot 10 clients,the speed is so slow.
07:45
<alkisg>
Do you have gigabit networking? Is your network max'ed out? Or your CPU?
07:45
<jackli>
yes,students use firefox.
07:46
I installed the ubuntu box in VMware workstation.
07:46
<alkisg>
E.g. if 10 students go to yourtube, you'll have CPU problems, flash is very badly implemented in linux
07:47
Well, try "iptraf" or "iftop" to monitor the network bandwidth, "top" to monitor the CPU/RAM usage etc. and to find out which is your bottleneck.
07:47
Did you set LDM_DIRECTX=True in lts.conf?
07:48
<jackli>
alkisg:I cannot find the lts.conf?
07:48
<alkisg>
You need to create one.
07:48
!lts.conf
07:48
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
07:49
<jackli>
Thank you,alkisg and ltspbot.
07:49
<alkisg>
jackli: ltspbot is a program, not a person.
07:49
<jackli>
alkisg:hehe.
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<jackli>
alkisg:talk with you,I learn so much,thank you very much.
07:50
<alkisg>
You're welcome, good luck!
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<cliebow>
jackli, you will get "birdy overload" if you listen to much
07:51
<alkisg>
cliebow: some help for non-native english speakers? What is "birdy overload"?!!!
07:52
<jackli>
cliebow:Maybe you are right,but I dont think so.because I also known much about the linux.
07:52
cliebow:just not much about ltsp and italc.
07:54
cliebow:I did the tests and read some materials on internet.and then communicate with dear friends.
07:57
cliebow:hehe,if you'd like to help others,you'll be happy and kind.
07:59
<_UsUrPeR_>
'morning all
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<cliebow>
jackli i was just thinking..there is so much information here you might get overwhelmed..but you sound pretty savvy!
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<jackli>
cliebow:I see your opnion.but I cannot agree with you.
08:09
cliebow:Everyone can express himself freely,and everyone can help others freely.
08:09
<cliebow>
8~)
08:10
<jackli>
cliebow:don't you think so?
08:11
and I dont know what you mean.so I copy your 8~)
08:18
<Ahmuck>
alkisg: birdy overload = information overload
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<alkisg>
Ahmuck: ah, ok, couldn't find it in google, thanks
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<cliebow>
guess no one else has parrots..give em too much stimulation they go berserk..therefore "birdy overload"
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<Guest62686>
Hi
08:27
Does someone here know how ldm/ltspfs creates the socket /var/run/ldm_socket... to enable usb device to be mounted ?
08:29
<Gadi>
Guest62686: it happens upon login through ldm
08:29
it runs: ssh -Y -M -S $LDM_SOCKET ....
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<alkisg>
Gadi: hi, two questions, please? (1) is CONFIGURE_X needed for all those new XRANDR* lts.conf entries? and (2) Can I set the color depth to 16 bit with xrandr?
08:32
<Gadi>
1. No (in fact, CONFIGURE_X should be false, I believe
08:32
hmm...
08:32
wait, which code?
08:32
latest ltsp-trunk?
08:32
<alkisg>
Yeap...
08:32
<Gadi>
lemme look
08:32
<alkisg>
Or is it in testing phase?
08:33
<Gadi>
in latest, you shouldn't have to set CONFIGURE_X at all
08:33
it sets itself
08:33
<alkisg>
Ah!!!! So that's why it worked!!! :)
08:33
<Gadi>
but, lemme check one thing
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<walter>
You guys
08:33
<alkisg>
(I've tried X_MODE_0 without CONFIGURE_X and it worked, and I wondered why...)
08:33
<Gadi>
btw: the answer to #2 is that XRANDR cannot set color depth
08:33
<Guest62686>
gadi : That's ok, but it don't know how to make the file /var/run/ldm_socket... be a socket
08:33
<alkisg>
So X_COLOR_DEPTH is needed...
08:34
<Gadi>
yeah
08:34
<alkisg>
Thanks Gadi
08:34
<walter>
I got an Ltsp setup of about 11 computers, and I am thinking what the best way is to recognize hosts (Ip Address or MAC and Hostname?)
08:34
<Gadi>
to force a color depth
08:34
<walter>
Currently I am binding IP address to Mac in dhcpd.conf, and MAC addresses to printers in lts.conf
08:34
<Gadi>
Guest62686: you dont
08:34
ldm does
08:34
<walter>
Would it be better to use a standard dhcpd.conf file, without binding, and using Hostnames instead of IP Addresses?
08:35
<Gadi>
walter: using mac addresses in lts.conf is usually the best as there is no ambiguity
08:35
<Guest62686>
Gadi : In fact, I need to use freenx instead of ldm (because of network bandwidth unsufficient for 60 clients
08:36
I looked at ldm sources, but don't find which commands and variables are nedded to create this socket on this file.
08:36
<Gadi>
Guest62686: have you tried setting NETWORK_COMPRESSION in lts.conf? (not sure if it works, but I think it is a param)
08:36
<alkisg>
walter: I think you can also map the printers to IPs with /etc/ethers
08:37
<Guest62686>
(after this, I think ltspfs_entry will work
08:37
<Gadi>
Guest62686: ssh creates the socket
08:37
<walter>
Gadi I'm doing just that. But Cups will ask me a specific IP Address or hostname for a specific printer. Right now I'm giving it an IP Address, which is binded in dhcpd.conf. Should I give it a hostname instead, use a standard dhcpd.conf, without binding? But then again, how do I bind a hostname to a Mac address?
08:37
<Gadi>
so, you would have to hack "nxssh"
08:37
<walter>
alkisg last message applies to you too ;)
08:37
<cyberorg>
Gadi, i've got a good news and a bad news, which one you want first :)
08:38
<Gadi>
walter: keep doing what ur doing
08:38
if you want to map ips to hosts, do so in DNS
08:38
but, no need for printers
08:38
<Guest62686>
Do you know the command line to attach the socket to this file ?
08:38
<Gadi>
unless you expect to change IP addressing aroound more
08:39
Guest62686: ssh -M -S <filename> ...
08:39
Guest62686: that will create the socket file
08:39
<walter>
Gadi No, I amn't expecting to change Ip addresses. It's just, dhcpd.conf gets overwritten at times, in KIWI-Ltsp, and I was wondering if hostnaming and dns is better than using binded Ip Addresses
08:40
<Guest62686>
Gadi : what are the ... ? (sockets are something really new for me)
08:40
<Gadi>
walter: do you want dhcpd.conf to be overwritten?
08:40
you can always make it immutable
08:40
:)
08:40
<walter>
cyberorg this was all started by you suggesting to stop binding IP Addresses, by the way ;)
08:40
<Gadi>
Guest62686: ... just means the rest of the ssh command
08:41
<cyberorg>
walter, we agreed to carry on doing that as there is no other alternative?
08:41
<walter>
Gadi No I really don't want to, but it happened twice already, and I'm a little tired of replacing it and restarting dhcpd
08:41
<Gadi>
so, say you ssh into localhost
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<alkisg>
Gadi: how can I make /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default immutable? It gets overwritten... :)
08:41
<Gadi>
ssh -M -S /tmp/blah localhost
08:41
creates a socket file in /tmp/blah
08:41
<cyberorg>
walter, use chattr to not let dhcpd.conf get replaced by mistake
08:41
<Gadi>
alkisg: chattr -i
08:41
or +i
08:41
hmm...
08:41* Gadi is getting old
08:42
<walter>
cyberorg but I started thinking. How about I use a standard dhcpd.conf, and bind a Mac Address to a Hostname? How could I do that? Would it be better?
08:42* alkisg has a lot to read about linux... :(
08:42
<cyberorg>
walter, no, binding mac in dhcpd is good enough
08:42
<Guest62686>
Gady : but ssh needs a password (and in this case root password). I think it's not a good idea to put it in a file
08:43
<Gadi>
Guest62686: ok. lets take this slowly
08:43
ldm collects username and password
08:43
<walter>
cyberorg awright, but generally speaking, if I wanna bind Hostnames too, should I just use /etc/hosts, or use a nameserver (probably no real need to), or anything else?
08:43
<Gadi>
then executes ssh -M -S ... to create an ssh tunnel and corresponding socket file
08:43
<Guest62686>
gadi : ldm doesn't collect anything... that's nx
08:43
collect nothing, sorry
08:43
<Gadi>
I am telling you what ldm *does*
08:43
<Guest62686>
ok
08:43
<Gadi>
and what you would need to make nx *do*
08:44
<cyberorg>
walter, just copy over lts.conf from one of the clients to the server
08:44
<Gadi>
I cannot help you hack nx
08:44
:)
08:44
I can only tell you what ldm does
08:44
<Guest62686>
I can try t do it (wa can hope !)
08:44
<Gadi>
and what you are trying to reproduce
08:44
<cyberorg>
walter, sorry /etc/hosts from the client
08:44
<Gadi>
cyberorg: whats the good news?
08:44
<walter>
cyberorg How does that? Yeah, awright. /etc/hosts. Makes more sense ;)
08:45* Gadi needs coffee....
08:45
<cyberorg>
Gadi, everything you have done worked fine :)
08:45
<Gadi>
ok, whats the bad news?
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<cyberorg>
it works as expected on vista rdp, the bad news is linux xrdp does not recognize disk:drive thing
08:46
<Gadi>
hmm... well, I guess that becomes an xrdp bug
08:46
Yay!
08:46
:)
08:47
<cyberorg>
no, that feature is not implemented yet
08:47
<Gadi>
ah, ok
08:47
<cyberorg>
and it looks like it wont be, that is why we would have to use ltspfs
08:47
<Gadi>
Guest62686: what distro are you on?
08:47
<walter>
Gadi cyberorg Thanks you guys. See ya later ;)
08:48
<Gadi>
cyberorg: wont be?
08:48
why?
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<cyberorg>
Gadi, and another bad news is that none of xinitrc.d run when using rdesktop
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<Gadi>
did you check ltsp-common-functions for run_parts_list
08:49
?
08:49
<cyberorg>
Gadi, i checked xrdp-devel archive, two people asked about it and there is dead silence, it is quite dead there
08:49
<Gadi>
thats never good
08:49
<cyberorg>
yes it has that
08:50
<Gadi>
how do you know it does not run?
08:50
<cyberorg>
LTSPFS_TOKEN, PULSE_SERVER etc is not set
08:51
<Gadi>
how did you check it?
08:51
they should only be set within the X environment
08:51
<cyberorg>
xprop -root | grep LTSP
08:51
<Gadi>
ah
08:52
from a shell do: export DISPLAY=:8; /usr/share/ltsp/xinitrc
08:52
and see if it returns an error
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<cyberorg>
Gadi, flooded your PM
08:56
<ltsppbot>
"cyberorg" pasted "Gadi: sh -x /usr/share/ltsp/xinitrc" (420 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/163
08:56
<cyberorg>
thats more interesting
08:59
<Gadi>
cyberorg: ok, just pushed a commit to silence that stuff
08:59
can you pull ltsp-trunk?
08:59
lets see if that fixes the xinitrc stuff for you
08:59
<cyberorg>
what about the reason for those scripts not being executed?
08:59
<Gadi>
it could be related
09:00
<cyberorg>
ok
09:00
<Gadi>
if a sourced file ends with a nonzero return, it causes the whole thing to fail
09:00
thats why you see || true in these kinds of scripts
09:00
<cyberorg>
yeah was just about to say that :)
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<zerocool>
i'm using rdesktop from the SCREEN_02 and on the windozz server i've set the screen saver not to turn on but after 10 mins the thin clients turn off their screens.
09:09
does anyone have addition data on this?
09:09
<cyberorg>
Gadi, one error is fixed, but still no LTSPFS_TOKEN
09:09
<zerocool>
i checked the ltsp wiki but the DPMs settings which are supposed to be enter in the lts.conf don't do a/t
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<cyberorg>
Gadi, got it, everything runs as expected and LTSPFS_TOKEN is also set, but xprop in rdp session is not reading root window
09:23
DISPLAY=:8 xterm, and from there xprop -root | grep LTSP shows it set
09:24
is rdesktop client running on another root window?
09:27
Gadi, strangely DISPLAY=:10 xterm on the server launches xterm on the client
09:28
<alkisg>
wow, I'd like to be able to do that on purpose... :)
09:29
<cyberorg>
alkisg, use italc ;)
09:29
<alkisg>
Yeah, I do, but still, it would be nice... :)
09:32
It would enable scripting, e.g. stream a video to all clients with vlc, just by right clicking on it and selecting a nautilus script
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
09:40
<cyberorg>
moin sbalneav :)
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
sbalneav!
09:55
<sbalneav>
Hello CAN-o-SPAM !
09:55
<CAN-o-SPAM>
get my e-mail for the contest?
09:55
<sbalneav>
Yes I did!
09:55
Any submissions yet?
09:55
<CAN-o-SPAM>
well one ... it's posted
09:55
hopin for more :)
09:56
<sbalneav>
WHat's the link again?
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/contestlogos.html <- to see submissions
09:57
<sbalneav>
I had an idea for one long ago, but my drawing skills are next to nothing.
09:58
You'd probably have to have someone with some useful art skills "fix it up", but I'll see if I can find it.
09:59
<CAN-o-SPAM>
ok let me know
10:05
<cyberorg>
CAN-o-SPAM, can you put some "how to submit" information on that link?
10:06
<CAN-o-SPAM>
sure, the how to submit info is also posted on wiki.ltsp.org & http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/ltspContest.html
10:06
cyberorg: do u have any SuSE art lists that might be interested?
10:06
<cyberorg>
ok then just a link to that page
10:07
<Gadi>
ogra: ping
10:07
<cyberorg>
CAN-o-SPAM, there are few artists who should be sending logos :)
10:07
i can't find them online atm
10:08
<CAN-o-SPAM>
ok great, thanks
10:10
<Gadi>
hey - does anyone know if there is a limit as to the number of cores Ubuntu can recognize (ie, will a dual-quad core system show 8 cores with the stock kernel or server kernel?)
10:13
<CAN-o-SPAM>
cyberorg: that pages is updated.
10:13
page*
10:13
<cyberorg>
cool thanks
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<_UsUrPeR_>
is anyone in here competant in setting up xrandr in an xorg config/udev rule?
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<Gadi>
stgraber: ping
10:34
_UsUrPeR_: do you mean the new XRANDR_* lts.conf params?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi: no, this isn't an ltsp client issue. I have a laptop I want to consistently use an external monitor, but the only way I can get it to come on is with manual xrandr commands :/
10:36
I've tried setting a udev rule for it, as well as rc.local
10:36
neither seems to have an effect
10:43
<Gadi>
dont use udev
10:43
or rc.local
10:43
this is an X thing
10:43
it must be set within your X session
10:44
use the desktop tools
10:44
or add your xrandr commands to a session startup script
10:45
<_UsUrPeR_>
the problem is that the ubuntu screen resolution option will not detect the second monitor until I do the following: "xrandr --output TMDS-1 --auto"
10:45
gadi: ahh, that could work
10:45
the session startup script, that is
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<krish>
hey all. I just got the link for logo contest
10:50
i may try it out. any expections/ideas?
10:50
<cyberorg>
CAN-o-SPAM, here is the artist :)
10:50
<CAN-o-SPAM>
ok cool
10:51
<krish>
cyberorg: oh, I just read the rules. they want svg or eps
10:51
heh
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<cyberorg>
inkscape it is then :)
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<krish>
well gimp can export to eps
10:51
<Gadi>
zerocool: what distro and version?
10:52
<krish>
but if you strictly want inkscape - shona is the one
10:52
<Gadi>
zerocool: you may want: X_BLANKING = 0
10:52
<cyberorg>
krish, both of you can send in three each :)
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
krish: LTSP has some associations with Lobsters? Penguins (from Linux)?
10:52
<krish>
heh, i dont think we will do 3. shona is crashing her head on blender and I am doing the same on pencil and synfig
10:53
CAN-o-SPAM: lobsters what?
10:53
:)
10:53
<CAN-o-SPAM>
krish: Also some associations with thin client network diagram, thats my best ideas
10:54
<cyberorg>
krish, ltsp devs are lobster hogs
10:54
<CAN-o-SPAM>
heh
10:54
<krish>
something similar to this http://picasaweb.google.com/das.srikrishna/Distros#5269108609235327010
10:54
cyberorg: lucky they. dont find good lobster in here
10:55
<cyberorg>
krish, there you go lobster, tux, thin client, and network together, lots of ideas to play with ;)
10:55
<krish>
ltsp wants a logo not a mascot isnt it
10:56
hehe
10:56
cyberorg: hope ltsp doesnt have gnu components. I might have to put in hurd then
10:56
hurd eat lobster and penguin. lol
10:57
<CAN-o-SPAM>
lobster (represent a server) holding penguins (represent thin clients) in the lobsters claw?
10:57
claws*
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<krish>
CAN-o-SPAM: how do you manage to read my mind?
10:58
<zerocool>
s/o have an idea on the screen blanking on rdesktop connections?
10:58
<CAN-o-SPAM>
krish: can't tell, it is a very careful process
10:58
<krish>
i was thinking almost the same. but lobster was the network medium between server and thin client
10:58
<CAN-o-SPAM>
sounds cool
10:59
have to go to meeting. thanks for participating krish! i look forward to seeing your design(s)
10:59
<krish>
okay
10:59
thks to cyberorg
10:59
<CAN-o-SPAM>
thnx cyberorg
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<Gadi>
(11:51:09 AM) Gadi: zerocool: you may want: X_BLANKING = 0
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<zerocool>
gadi: kool, leme check that.
11:35
Gadi: That didn't work... is this s/t u have seen b4?
11:41
Ubuntu 8.0.4 LTSP ver 5
11:42
<Gadi>
zerocool: sure - we added support for that variable only in the past few months - it may not be in that version
11:42
if you want to fix it, you can do this:
11:42
(fix it for your version, that is)
11:43
edit: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop
11:43
oh wait
11:43
ur on hardy....
11:43
ok
11:43
do this.
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<zerocool>
yeah, that's right
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<Gadi>
actually, can you paste: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop
11:44
!pastebin
11:44
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "pastebin" is try !pastebot
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<Gadi>
!pastebot
11:44
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<zerocool>
!pastebot
11:46
<ltspbot>
zerocool: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
11:48
<ltsppbot>
"zerocool" pasted "gabi wanted this..." (49 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/164
11:50
"Gadi" pasted "place in: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/local/bin/rdesktop and: chmod 755 /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/local/bin/rdesktop" (22 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/165
11:51
<Gadi>
do that, and then change the line in the script you pasted from "/usr/bin/rdesktop to /usr/local/bin/rdesktop
11:51
and: sudo ltsp-update-image
11:51
does that make sense?
11:56
<zerocool>
kind of... not tracking with the "change the line in the script you pasted"...
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<Gadi>
so the: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop
11:56
<zerocool>
yeah
11:56
<Gadi>
in that sript, there is a line that starts with "xinit"
11:56
and has:
11:57
/usr/bin/rdesktop
11:57
change that to read: /usr/local/bin/rdesktop
11:57
<zerocool>
tracking...
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<Gadi>
that way it will call the new script that you are adding
11:57
which will both disable dpms (based on X_BLANKING) and run rdesktop
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<zerocool>
ok grt. leme do that right now. one sec
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<zerocool>
ok, the beast came back up. so MF is waiting 10 mins to see if it dies.
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<Gadi>
if it still does, check the screensaver setting in your Windows session
12:04
10 mins seems awfully long for dpms
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<zerocool>
ok good. yeah, i did check that. in group policy i turned off the screensaver & it does not time out when i connect from a normal desktop so don't think that's an influence.
12:08
one think, kind of odd but when my rdesktop session was resumed it had "-f" in the username. I guess it's somewhere in the script u gave me that the username is past of "-f"
12:08
doing a man of rdesktop "-u" does this.
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<Gadi>
oh, yeah
12:09
sorry
12:09
in the screen.d script, remove the line with -u ''
12:09
and add the: -u '' to the rdesktop line in the new script you added
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(unfortunately, the -u '' needs to be inline with the rdesktop call
12:10
when passed as an argument, it drops the ''
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so, it reads: -u -f
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which sets the username to -f
12:10
:P
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<zerocool>
and that would be on the last line?
12:11
before the $*
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?
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<Gadi>
right
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<zerocool>
alright man, it worked!!! 13 mins and counting - still seein the screen
12:22
<Gadi>
cool
12:25
zerocool: you can adjust the blanking interval now, too with X_BLANKING (0 = never)
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<_UsUrPeR_>
quick question about F9's DHCPD server: why is it that on boot, it will not start properly (error says no subnet specified for eth0) yet it will start normally with no problem if I do it manually after boot or in rc.local.
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<Guevara>
hi
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<rootchick>
Gadi, I figured out why that xsession.d script for rsyncing my home directories made the x session crash--it was obliterating the .Xauthority file. Once I excluded that, it worked fine! Thanks!
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<Guevara>
Gadi: i try put smbd: ip_users for block access internal network, but the system no block
14:06
i put in the hosts.deny file in /etc/hosts.deny
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<rjune>
rootchick, w00t!
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<rootchick>
yes, indeed!!
14:09
is there a way to run an xsession script after logout? Back when I used kdm, there was xreset.
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<Guevara>
howPendrive when a plug on the server it appears in all terminals, how can I prevent this?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
warren: where is the documentation for the whitelist functionality in Fedora?
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<Guevara>
Pendrive when a plug on the server it appears in all terminals, how can I prevent this? sbalneav
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<jammcq>
hello #ltsp
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<rootchick>
hello
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<johnny>
Guevara, don't ask the same question twice
14:19
it is annoying
14:19
Guevara, make sure your users are not all members of the same group
14:19
your members must have themselves as the primary group
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<Guevara>
yes
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<johnny>
so user foo, must be in group foo, as the main group
14:20
that is how it works in ubuntu by default
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<Guevara>
each user is in your group
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<johnny>
but is that their primary group?
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<Guevara>
when user is create the group is the user
14:21
user pc01, group pc01, tou understand?
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you*
14:22
users is not in the group of the server
14:22
but pendrive appears in all terminals
14:24
i post this http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-12/msg02597.html
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<sbalneav>
Guevara: Can you run the command "id" on two of the users, and paste the results to the pastebot?
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!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<Guevara>
I'm at home, the LTSP this in college sbalneav
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<johnny>
then you will have to do it when you go there..
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<Guevara>
but the ids is fuse=107
14:30
the group is the same name as the user
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=/
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<johnny>
it must be the primary group..
14:31
not just be in the group
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<Guevara>
what would be the primary group?
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<johnny>
that is why you must paste the result of the command!
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<Guevara>
=/
14:33
ok, when you get there what should I look for or change in the permissions?
14:33
i
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<johnny>
just paste the result when you get there???
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<Guevara>
ok
14:34
I also tried to block access to internal network putting smbd: all in hosts.deny file and did not work
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<alkisg>
Guevara, yesterday rjune gave you the iptables line to prevent access to smb shares. You may find it at the logs.
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<Guevara>
not burn logs here alkisg
14:37
<alkisg>
Look at the channel topic, there's a link to the logs
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<Guevara>
where the link?
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<alkisg>
IRC logs at: http://www.nubae.com/logs/,
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<rjune>
iptables -m owner --help
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iptables -m owner -A OUTPUT -j DROP --gid-owner STUDENT_GID
14:39
From a security perspective, you should do this:
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iptables -m owner -A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT --gid-owner TEACHER_GID
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iptables -m owner -A OUTPUT -j DROP
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<Guevara>
but users still accessing the Internet? rjune
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<rjune>
that way only people in the TEACHER group can see the world
14:40
You might need to add --dport 138 or whatever smb is
14:40
the -m owner bits should be the strange parts. basic iptables usage is easy to find.
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<Guevara>
i can't access the logs
14:43
i found
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<nubae>
which ones?
14:44
ah wait... I haven't cycled the 2008 ones
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I'll have to put those up... right now since its a new year there is only 8 days... let me go fix that
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<Guevara>
ok
14:45
i found the log
14:50
<_UsUrPeR_>
does anyone know where the ltsp-localapps whitelist documentation is located?
14:51
<johnny>
there probably isn't any
14:51
<_UsUrPeR_>
d'oh :/
14:51
<Guevara>
run locate ltsp-localapps in the terminal _UsUrPeR_
14:51
<johnny>
_UsUrPeR_, that's a warren specific question :)
14:51
Guevara, that won't work
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<Guevara>
why?
14:51
<johnny>
_UsUrPeR_, you're gonna have to look at the code
14:51
cuz it doesn't really exist
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<Guevara>
=/
14:52
<_UsUrPeR_>
johnny: ok, I'll take a look
14:52
<rjune>
warren and somebody else was working on that
14:52
<_UsUrPeR_>
johnny: ltsp-localapps does not open any feedback on the client when run
14:52
<rjune>
I forget who was doing it with him
14:52
<_UsUrPeR_>
err... guevara ^^
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<johnny>
_UsUrPeR_, and?
14:53
you sure expect alot
14:53
<_UsUrPeR_>
johnny: was clarifying for guevara
14:53
I know you knew that :)
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<johnny>
he's saying you could find the docs by locate
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<rjune>
look in LTSP_ROOT/etc
14:53* _UsUrPeR_ does that
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<rjune>
see if there's something which is obviously the config file in there
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<johnny>
_stink_, the whitelist is set in lts.conf, you must look n the code to see how it is handled
14:55
look ltsp-trunk/localapps and grep around
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ahh
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<vagrantc>
Guevara: type /topic
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<_UsUrPeR_>
semi-docs are in ltsp-localappsd :)
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<vagrantc>
Guevara: nevermind.
15:08* vagrantc was caught in the past.
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
sbalneav, ping ping
15:10* vagrantc notices ltsp-trunk/COPYING differs from ltsp-trunk/localapps/COPYING
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<vagrantc>
one of them has the old FSF address.
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<vagrantc>
and one of them has an exception for bash
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<kc8pxy>
i just did a fresh layman -S ltsp; emerge ltsp-server; i've not gotten it to work before, should i expect success, or failure?
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ok, looks like faliure.
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ok, i think i know why it's failing, but i don't know the cause for the reason.
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<johnny>
huh?
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after you have emerged ltsp-server then you should do
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ltsp-build-client --quickstart-verbose --quickstart-debug
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<kc8pxy>
did that
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pastebin comming up
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http://slexy.org/view/s2iZLSZDbV
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<johnny>
that's not very helpful..
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add --debug to the mix
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oh.. maybe that won't help
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<kc8pxy>
http://slexy.org/view/s2081U6ni5
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i see somethign conspicuous.
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fatal=1
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why is that set?
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one thing that it seems to hate is "i haven't set a stage uri" even thought #
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stage_url=http://www.funtoo.org/linux/x86/stage3-x86-current.tar.bz2
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ideas?
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i need to get this deployeed soon(ish). the sooner, the better.
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at least SOME sort of working client.
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<johnny>
uri.. not url
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oops
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i just noticed that
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<kc8pxy>
fix comming??:)
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<johnny>
done
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see if that works
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<kc8pxy>
layman -S ltsp : emerge ltsp-server; ??
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layman -S ltsp says it's up to date
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<johnny>
just emerge ltsp-server
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i didn't touch the ebuild
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just the bzr repository
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<kc8pxy>
kk
17:51
same difference
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<johnny>
did you merge your config files?
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<kc8pxy>
DOH
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<johnny>
it should have told you to?
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<kc8pxy>
gears are turning now
17:53
amd64 server, 32-bit client, assumed?
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<johnny>
that's the default
17:53
like fedora
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<kc8pxy>
32-bit client uless proven 64?
17:53
:)
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<johnny>
on ubuntu i think it's default to the server arch..
17:53
yeah..
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i do something like linux32 $(uname -m)
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<kc8pxy>
it's grabbing a funtoo stage?
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<johnny>
yes
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since he generates nice symlinks for me
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<kc8pxy>
hehe
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<johnny>
so it will grab the most current
17:56
i realize one more thing i need to change
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i had to remove the forcing of portage 2.2, since we don't actually need it
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i need to go ahead and test ldm without ubuntulooks, since that has changed not to require it
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<kc8pxy>
I'll be back.. got an error.
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<Lns>
For anyone interested, I filed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/315300
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<johnny>
filling there?
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shouldn't you be filing upstream?
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especially since that isn't an ubuntu bug
19:19
that's a general bug with ooo
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<Lns>
I probably will, and will triage them
19:20
good point
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<vagrantc>
this pixmap caching issue just keeps resurfacing
19:22
<Lns>
vagrantc: i know :(
19:23
even with nbdswap enabled its just too much for the poor clients to handle all at once
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<vagrantc>
first, firefox ... and that was somewhat dealt with? then openoffice documents, which was also somewhat addressed ... now openoffice presenter ?
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<Lns>
and those are just the most used apps
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<vagrantc>
*sigh*
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<Lns>
im sure its all over the place really
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<vagrantc>
we need a propaganda campaign to discourage pixmap caching
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<Lns>
or a mechanism to disallow it.. /ducks
19:24
<vagrantc>
or somehow get hooks into the libraries that implement that sort of thing, and optionally disable it
19:24
<Lns>
that would be sweeeet
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<vagrantc>
anyways, off i go...
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<Lns>
bye!
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<kc8pxy>
heya johnny
19:50
i ran into this issue
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[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/portage/layman/make.conf' in /etc/make.conf
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<dberkholz>
sounds like you set up your layman to use a directory other than /usr/local/portage
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<johnny>
dberkholz, the default changed.. many people seem to have the pre change version
20:09
i did force the version since the change
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but seems like many have not merged their config files either
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kc8pxy, you need to move layman to /usr/local/portage/layman, as the newer versions suggest
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<kc8pxy>
bbiab.. leaving the shop.
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: do i have to manually do that?? layman doesn't move things/reinstall in the new dir?
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<zer0c00l>
hi room, is there any build_initramfs script available to build initramfs for ltsp 5
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<zer0c00l>
how can i make custom kernel for ltsp5
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<Ryan52>
put it wherever your tftp stuff hides ("/var/lib/tftpboot"?)
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there should already be one there.
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don't overwrite it, i think it's automajically put there...:p. so put it somewhere else and update your syslinux/whatever configs.
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<zer0c00l>
i need to add some wireless network drivers to the ramdisk.......how can i do that
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<kc8pxy>
zer0c00l: imho, i would not trust a ltsp client to run it's link on wifi
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<alkisg>
zer0c00l: I *think* you put them to /opt/ltsp/i386/share/initramfs-tools/modules and then run chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ && usr/sbin/update-initramfs
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<Ryan52>
isn't there some ltsp-update-blah script that you gotta run or something? (/me is clueless, btw)
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<zer0c00l>
kc8pxyo:i am not going to use boot from lan,
23:53
alkisg: ok
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<alkisg>
Ryan52: I think for the kernels ltsp-update-image is not needed
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<zer0c00l>
let be try
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<alkisg>
There is ltsp-update-kernels that copies them to /var/lib/tftpboot...
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<Ryan52>
ya, that's what I was thinking of ... is that needed? :p
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<alkisg>
Yep... to copy the kernels from the chroot to the tftp dir, you're right
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<zer0c00l>
what i have done so far is i copied the kernel and ramdisk of k12 ltsp and put them inside /tftpboot directory also used the i386 of k12 ltsp
23:57
it work for me......
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but i am lot able to login
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i enabled xdm through kdm
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and using X -query <ip> :1
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command to get the kdm
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from ltsp client
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<zer0c00l>
i checked the i386 folder and i am not able to find share folder you mentioned also i can't find out update-initramfs script
23:59
<Ryan52>
alkisg, oh, did anybody ever tell you why SSH_ASKPASS won't work? :)
23:59
<zer0c00l>
do i miss something
23:59
<alkisg>
Ryan52: yeap, I saw it... :(
23:59* Ryan52 nods :(