IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 29 September 2014   (all times are UTC)

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13:48
<Leolo_3>
Hello. I have just upgraded an office to LTSP 5
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I'm having an issue with some of the computers
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they can see the xdm window (Welcome to $(HOSTNAME)) but not the login part
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that is, PasswdPrompt and namePrompt aren't being displayed
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the real WTF is that some computers it works, some computers it doesn't work
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14:32
<Leolo_3>
ok, now I know what the problem is
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Xorg was using 8 bit colour depth
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the intel driver (82845G chipset) isn't working properly
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now to force the vesa driver
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do things like XSERVER and X_COLOR_DEPTH still work
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15:10
<bennabiy>
Leolo_3: Can you please give a little more information about the distribution and such you are using? can you please pastebin the output of ltsp-info?
15:11
!pastebin | echo Leolo_3
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<ltsp`>
Leolo_3 pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
15:15
<Leolo_3>
the problem is intel_drv.so is setting itself up for 8 bit
15:15
if I move that driver out of the way (mv intel_drv.so intel_drv.so-NOT) it uses vesa_drv.so and it works
15:16
<bennabiy>
Leolo_3: what distro?
15:16
<Leolo_3>
Red Hat 6
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XSERVER=vesa doesn't work
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X_COLOR_DEPTH=24
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doesn't work
15:16
<bennabiy>
ah. I am not sure what happened with the one who was supporting Red Hat / CentOS. Someone was doing some work on it, but has not been around in about a year
15:17
<ogra_>
there were several over the years
15:17
<Leolo_3>
actually CentOS 6.5
15:17
yeah, red hat is a orphan distro it seems
15:17
<bennabiy>
ogra_: yes, but I was thinking of Josh (I think that was his name)
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enslaver
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!seen enslaver
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<ltsp`>
enslaver was last seen in #ltsp 46 weeks, 3 days, 13 hours, 43 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Enslaver> can't complain too much, better than my last one
15:18* bennabiy has no motivation to run LTSP on RedHat
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<ogra_>
since warren togami was pushed out of doing it by his employer we only had people drop in like: "oohh i want this to work ond fedora/redhat" then they implemented the basics of it and vanished
15:18
happens every other year
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<bennabiy>
heh, sounds like me
15:19
<ogra_>
sadly it means that it never completely works on RH
15:19
bennabiy, nah, you are still here, arent you ? :)
15:19
<Leolo_3>
well, it "works" on RH except for a few bits that don't
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<bennabiy>
here, yes, but I only get time to work on code which affects my setup, unless the rare opportunity comes up to help out
15:20
<Leolo_3>
doen't work : nbd, RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES, X_COLOR_DEPTH
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<ogra_>
right, the basics work
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<bennabiy>
Leolo_3: you can always take a stab at being the RH / Cent developer :)
15:21
<ogra_>
:)
15:21
<bennabiy>
vagrantc did a wonderful presentation on maintaining code you do not understand... I highly recommend it ;)
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15:25
<Leolo_3>
I wouldn't know where to begin
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ere's a question : where does lts.conf get transformed into an xorg.conf (for instance?)
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<bennabiy>
You can get on launchpad and look over the last couple commits and merge requests for RH support
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in the client scripts
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if I recall correctly
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<Leolo_3>
"client scripts"
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where do these live and where are they called from?
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<ogra_>
Leolo_3, the scripts the ltsp-client packages installs when it gets installed inside the client chroot
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*package
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<bennabiy>
Leolo_3: I would download the latest source (if you can bzr pull it ) and pick through it
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<Leolo_3>
S85ltsp-core
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hmm... what I want is probably in the initrd
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nope, can't find it
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where is lts.conf downloaded?
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aha! init-ltsp!
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<ogra_>
but it is onl processed later in the boot
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<rkwesk>
Hello. I wish to add some updated material to ltsp wiki concerning Debian. Can anyone help?
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<vagrantc>
which wiki?
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<rkwesk>
whichever is more appropriate. Debian Lenny is referenced whereas with your help we have stuff for wheezy and jessie
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<vagrantc>
what do you need help with? it's so outdated and littered with poor advice, i'd welcome someone to update it
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i think it's an open registration wiki on wiki.debian.org
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<rkwesk>
I have registered an account but it seems confusing how to use it to add or update stuff
17:01* vagrantc has never found wikis to be very intuitive
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<rkwesk>
if it is okay just to try and try different ways to upload pages i don't mind trying
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<vagrantc>
upload ages, rather than edit them?
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<rkwesk>
well sure i can try to edit if that is permitted
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<vagrantc>
rkwesk: i'd suggest starting out by creating a sub-page like wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Jessie and experimenting with it
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i don't have the most reliable internet connection today, so may drop out at any moment
17:03
<rkwesk>
okay i will try that. by the way i refer to the steps i wrote and you commented and i redid etc
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<vagrantc>
ah, that was some pretty specific stuff.
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ltsp-pnp and all that
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<rkwesk>
so you thonk it inappropriate for the wiki?
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<vagrantc>
which could really use improvements
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inappropriate as generic documentation
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but would be good supplimental docs
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<rkwesk>
what about a general description of some variants like pnp vs not and nfs vs nbd
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<vagrantc>
ideally, first document the defaults, then document the additional features
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i.e. on debain default is thin client with NFS...
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a section titled NBD, Fat Clients, PNP (i wish we had a better name for that)
17:08* vagrantc draws blanks every time
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<vagrantc>
i guess it's "building a fat client out of the server os"
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<rkwesk>
so i can write up some sub page and try to upload it or can submit it to somewhere else for review first. which is preferred
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<vagrantc>
not exactly catchy, but descriptive
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rkwesk: the other thing is to update ltsp-docs in bzr
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<rkwesk>
okay i can look ther also
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<vagrantc>
code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp-docs, maybe
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code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/
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should be findable from there, at least
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<rkwesk>
okay i will have a look
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<vagrantc>
that's a bunch of xml or something
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but is meant to be distro-agnostic
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but it contains no mention of ltsp-pnp style things
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rkwesk: thanks for taking a stab at it
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<rkwesk>
okay that seems a good place to start with general stuff. it seems you imply i just go ahead no review first?
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<vagrantc>
rkwesk: for wiki.debian.org, sure.
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rkwesk: for ltsp-docs, you'll need to make a bzr branch and submit a merge request
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but it'd be good to get ltsp-docs updated in the next week or two so i can update the version in jessie
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<rkwesk>
okay iwill take a stab and if i get stuck i will come back here to ask for help again. Thank you for your valuable input.
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<bennabiy>
vagrantc: What are your thoughts on the bash bug?
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