IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 5 October 2012   (all times are UTC)

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00:40
<garymc>
Hi Guys, ive had to change my internet router. My LTSP server has internet but my Fat Clients no longer have internet access, what could be wrong?
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<dtrask>
any BTS folks here?
00:49
<garymc>
no any help with my issue would be great
00:50
<dtrask>
sorry...just arrived...cannot see any history
00:51
most of the devs are at a dev sprint in Maine right now...
00:51
I join them tomorrow
00:51
was simply trying to see if any are online, but I suspect they are at dinner
00:57
<garymc>
yeah i just installed a new router cos old one failed
00:57
now none of my FAT clients have access to internet
00:58
but If I plug right into the server it has internet
00:58
I dont know what to do I need it ready ASAP
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03:55* alkisg wishes people at BTS to have a very good time there, unfortunately I won't be online much during the BTS...
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<ltspuser_17>
Bonjour, y a t'il des personnes française sur ce channel LTSP ?
08:40
hello, I'm not English! you know how to mount a iphone as a thin client ltsp ?
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<ltspuser_17>
hello, I'm not English! you know how to mount a iphone as a thin client ltsp ?
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<Mava>
ltspuser_17: that is impossible
08:50
or can you.. not sure to be honest
08:51
well, same way than you would do with regular linux
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<garymc>
Hi anyone here?
09:05
<ltspuser_17>
this is really a big problem for my client not able to mount iphones! there really is no solution to? it will probably be supported in other update? My clients can not retrieve their photos?
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09:10
<garymc>
Hi guys I have an LTSP server setup using Ubuntu. I changed the router for internet access because the old one failed. Everything is working fine but my FAT clients dont get internet access after booting up
09:11
what will be causing this?
09:11
NAT? IPROUTE?
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09:18
<ltspuser_17>
vos client léger ont internet ?
09:18
your thin client have internet?
09:23
<garymc>
nope
09:23
they do when I plug the old router back in
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but not with the new router
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so im thinking IP route or NAt
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<ltspuser_17>
Very dificille to solve the problem or see at a distance for me ... I think more iproute! Quick question: Have you tested your iphone connect a thin client? You can access the photo file it
09:27
?
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09:35
<garymc>
no i havnt
09:36
not something that would interest me though
09:41
If I change router and the actual server has internet do I need to update the FAT client image?
09:41
Copy DNS and Repository information from server to fat client to sync updates.
09:53
<ltspuser_17>
no update needed
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<jimjimovich>
anyone know what the updates are in the ltsp-pnp repos? i see new ltsp updates
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<garymc>
no one in here today that can help by rthe looks
11:24
ltspuser : no update needed? you refering to me?
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<garymc>
any experts in here today?
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12:00* gvy uses a different distro
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<Hyperbyte>
garymc, that's a very bad question "any experts in here"
12:15
For one, you aren't asking the -real- question, but also someone requires an ego to answer that.
12:16
If I'd say "Hi Gary!" it'd mean I'm proclaiming myself to be an expert... I don't though, so I'm not answering.
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<garymc>
haha ok
12:19
But Hyperbyte you have helped me before
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<Hyperbyte>
Well
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!ask
12:24
<ltsp>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
12:25
<Hyperbyte>
Or is this about the fat clients not having internet?
12:25
<garymc>
exactly
12:25
<Hyperbyte>
Ah
12:25
Pastebin output of these commands, when ran on fat client:
12:25
ifconfig
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ip route
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<garymc>
one problem It wont let me do that on a FAT client
12:26
I can do it if Im on the server
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like in the server room
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but I cant do it any other way
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even if I ssh it wont accept my password
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<garymc>
Hyperbyte : With current config that works or when the system doesnt work?
12:29
Sorry, current router that alows internet to FAT's or the NEW router which doesnt?
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<garymc>
Hyperbyte : If I change router and I differnt IP on the subnet is passed to the server do I need to Copy DNS and Repository information from server to fat client to sync updates? Will this then work
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<garymc>
Cos when I change router the Server does have an internet connection
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<garymc>
its just the FAT clients that dont
12:36
so update the FAT image?
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<Hyperbyte>
... gone
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Why do people leave 2 minutes before I want to answer them? :(
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<knipwim>
why do you wait for answering after they've gone :)
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<elias_a>
It is much nicer that way.
12:54
:P
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<Hyperbyte>
garymc!
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You're back!
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<Hyperbyte>
14:26 <garymc> one problem It wont let me do that on a FAT client
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<Hyperbyte>
You can't get a terminal on a fat client to type two commands?
13:01
Because if that's the case, you have bigger problems than internet not working.
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<Luizcezar>
anybody uses the thin client connec ez610 with ltsp? is it good?
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<Hyperbyte>
Generally speaking: if it's hardware is supported by Ubuntu and if it supports PXE, it'll work with LTSP.
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<Luizcezar>
ye Hyperbyte, just dont know if its supported by Ubuntu ;)
13:18
i have an old client FIC and gives me kernel panic all day!
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<garymc>
Hyperbyte : I cant open terminal just cant do ifconfig cos it asks for password and it doesnt work on a fat client
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sorry
13:30
*I Can open Terminal
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<Hyperbyte>
...
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What on earth are you running on there? Distro/version?
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<Luizcezar>
hahaha
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<Hyperbyte>
Also, clarify this. You log in to the fat client, go to Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal and it asks for a password?
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<elias_a>
:O
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<garymc>
Hyperbbyte
13:35
no
13:35
it only asks when i type ifconfig
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it says user privaleges not admin to see ifconfig
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so I type sudo ifconfig
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i type password and it says password is wrong
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but i fi do it directly on the server logged in as the same user (ME) then it works when i put my password in
13:38
Ok 1. Right now with OLD Bt router all systems are go with the LTSP
13:38
When I change to the NEW Draytek router everything works great accept the FAT clients have no internet
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Do I need to do something to the DNS on the LTSP server and copy the new settings the DRAYTEK is passing to the server into the FAT image?
13:39
or am i completely on the wrong track?
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<garymc>
SIGH
13:48
:(
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<garymc>
Hyperbyte : can you help?
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<Hyperbyte>
garymc, stop
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I didn't ask you to run it on the server, I asked you to run it on the client.
13:54
If you're using fat clients, these are completely different things.
13:55
And I've never heard of 'ifconfig' not working for regular users.
13:55
Again I ask - what distro/version are you running?
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<garymc>
how do I find that out?
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<Hyperbyte>
You don't know what you installed? :o
14:02
<garymc>
ubuntu
14:02
it was a while ago
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<Hyperbyte>
cat /etc/issue
14:02
Then you've probably messed around with the system to disable ifconfig for regular users, yes? :-)
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<garymc>
possibly
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<Hyperbyte>
Great
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<garymc>
LTS \n \l
14:04
whoops
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<Hyperbyte>
So undo that, then run ifconfig and ip route and move that to pastebin
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<garymc>
10.04.3
14:04
ok Hyperbyte but this config works
14:04
its when i plug the new router in
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I cant do that right now cos people are working on FAT clients
14:05
Undo what?
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<Hyperbyte>
Have you considered just logging in to the web interfaces of both routers and having a look?
14:05
Compare settings, etc?
14:05
I mean, this isn't rocket science.
14:05
I also think it isn't ltsp related.
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<highvoltage>
!bts
14:08
<ltsp>
bts: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/ByTheSea_2012
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<garymc>
ok
14:11
two totally differnt routers t be honest
14:12
Ok so why does my Actual server have internet Access via eth0 but the FAT clients dont
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<frankblax>
printer icon disappears from app (gedit). how i can properly set smb,.
14:17
printer icon disappears from app (gedit). how i can properly set smb
14:17
printer icon disappears from app (gedit). how i can properly set smb.conf?
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<garymc>
Hyperbyte : What do you think it is related to?
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<Hyperbyte>
Hahahahaha
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That frankblax guy just made my day. =D
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<Hyperbyte>
garymc, anything. Debugging networks is a piece of cake though, ifconfig and ip route help a lot.
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<ltspuser_05>
hello
14:29
i need help
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:)
14:30
i`m trying to config
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ltsp server
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<garymc>
right but I cant get ifconfig to work on the fAT . Althuogh I can get ip route to
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<ltspuser_05>
i`m using to nic
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<garymc>
OMG i cant get anywhere with this
14:38
anyone got any time to help me sort this?
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16:02
<Gadi_eeepc>
test
16:04
<Hyperbyte>
ERROR ERROR ERROR
16:04
<mgariepy>
hey Gadi_eeepc !
16:05
<ogra_>
woo
16:05
<Gadi_eeepc>
and here I thought someone turned off the internet
16:05
:)
16:05* Gadi_eeepc tips hat to all in #ltsp - ltns
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16:40
<dtrask>
how come I never see jammcq or sbalneav in here any more?
16:40
Gadi...you in here?
16:40
anyone...anyone? Bueller...Bueller?
16:42
<highvoltage>
dtrask: are you going to come over today?
16:43
<Gadi_eeepc>
dtrask: present
16:44
<ogra_>
past and future
16:44
:)
16:44
<dtrask>
yes....I'll be there prolly around dinner time....so wait for me. Maybe earlier...hoping to leave here at 2 and be on the road by 3....I'm a couple hours away
16:44
ogra_: LOL
16:44
\So who's there?
16:45
<ogra_>
not me :(
16:45
<dtrask>
I already know about highvoltage, ogra_ and Gadi
16:45
is there a wiki page this year of attendees? couldn't find anything
16:45
LO
16:45
LOL
16:46
anyone still sober?
16:46
Scotty and Jim there? (assuming)
16:47
ogra_: you're not at BTS? or are you?
16:48
highvoltage: I was hoping the weather would hold so I could bring my motorcycle...at which point I'd be there much sooner ;-)
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16:48
<highvoltage>
dtrask: what kind of motorcycle?
16:48
<dtrask>
Suzuki C50T
16:48
Boulevard
16:49
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/Boulevard%20C50/2013/C50T.aspx
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16:50
<dtrask>
highvoltage: may get one of these next year http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/v-rod.html but not sure...don't want to be a sheep (and follow the herd)
16:51
<highvoltage>
dtrask: you have way too much money :)
16:51* highvoltage gets some lunch
16:51
<dtrask>
highvoltage: thinking also of a BMW dual sport adventure bike or possibly a Suzuki V-Strom
16:51
<ogra_>
dtrask, nope
16:51
<dtrask>
highvoltage: Did I mention it's a 2007? LOL...
16:51
<ogra_>
next year
16:52* dtrask loves how highvoltage thinks he has too much money
16:52* dtrask little does he know
16:52
<dtrask>
ogra_: dang!
16:52
ogra_: was hoping to see you....been a while
16:53
<ogra_>
yeah :/
16:54
<dtrask>
Gadi_eeepc: let Jim and all know to wait for me before heading out for dinner...I want to join ya'll
17:11
<stgraber>
dtrask: dinner tonight will be pizza at the motel, we'll try to keep some for you ;)
17:12
<knipwim>
@BTS, have fun guys!
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<dtrask>
stgraber: Try? ;-)
17:22
stgraber: do ya'll need more beer? I can stop and get some on the way
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17:37
<Gadi_eeepc>
dtrask: will do on dinner. Just came back with beer should be good for a bit
17:37
<vagrantc>
Gadi_eeepc: HI!
17:38
<Gadi_eeepc>
vagrantc: !!
17:38
<dtrask>
There's an awesome beer shop local...I can bring some VERY cool craft beers ;-)
17:38
vagrantc: Long time no see....in fact...I think it's been since Sevilla
17:38
<highvoltage>
where does one get Moxy again?
17:40
<vagrantc>
dtrask: indeed. was hoping to see you last year, but you know how that went.
17:42
<dtrask>
vagrantc: sorry
17:42
vagrantc: you there this year?
17:42
<vagrantc>
dtrask: a bit too far at the moment, i usually eat up all my vacation time for the annual debian conference
17:42
<dtrask>
highvoltage: I will bring you some Moxie
17:42
highvoltage: 2 Liter?
17:43
<Gadi_eeepc>
dtrask: you'll be the tenth man here
17:43
<vagrantc>
so, sorry i can't be there folks
17:43
<dtrask>
highvoltage: or smaller bottles
17:43
<highvoltage>
dtrask: smaller would be nice, I just need to taste it again while I'm here :D
17:44
<dtrask>
highvoltage: almost any convenience store has it, but if you can wait until later, I'll bring some
17:44
<highvoltage>
yeah just checked at the liquor store but they didn't have, will check elsewhere to find some to take back home too :)
17:45
<Gadi_eeepc>
mmm.... fermented Moxie...
17:45
<mgariepy>
Gadi_eeepc, lol should we try to make moxie wine ?
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17:59* vagrantc ponders the interaction of ltsp_config.d/01-getltscfg and 01-ltspconfig-cache
18:00
<vagrantc>
we really need to overhaul all that code... it's so confusing.
18:01
<dtrask>
how about moxie and rum?
18:02
I'm headed home and on the road in a few....see you guys later this pm
18:03
<vagrantc>
mgariepy: moving the ltsp-update-kernels call after the image is built will mean that the generated tftp configuration will be out of sync with what's in the NBD image...
18:04
or at least, could be out of sync
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18:07
<highvoltage>
moxie and rum sounds like something that might work.
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18:08
<vagrantc>
to fix tftp issues and configuration handling?
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<Gadi_eeepc>
vagrantc: is that a big deal?
18:10
i mean, you are worried about the modules in the image?
18:11
(just trying to understand)
18:16
<vagrantc>
Gadi_eeepc: not sure. alkisg had worked on code to have ltsp-update-kernels pull the files from the NBD image itself.
18:16
so clearly he had a use for that
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<mgariepy>
vagrantc, doint it before means that until the image is completed you cannot boot a thin client on the network when you have a kernel upgrade.
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<vagrantc>
yay! i may have a working NBD backport, so i could backport ltsp to squeeze!
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<vagrantc>
hrm. ltsp-update-image and ltsp-config nbd-server on debian seem borked... :(
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ltsp-update-image seems to have problems with ionice on squeeze
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