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Channel log from 7 May 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<X-TaZ>
Hi. I'm experiencing great difficulties to gget DHCP working. I need to setup on with NIC it should use, but i can't find how to
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<X-TaZ>
I'm experiencing great difficulties to gget DHCP working. I need to setup on with NIC it should use, but i can't find how to. Any ideas ?
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<X-TaZ>
Hi people. Got a problem : On my new ltsp installation, I have " No response from server... Restarting" when i try to log in. Whats going on ?
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<_Shane>
Bad username or password can cause that.
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<X-TaZ>
_Shane, ty, it was a problem of ssh keys
04:58
I'm getting mad with ltsp-cluster :X
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<yoshi_>
question: can i get any problems if i upgrade my basis ltsp server from 8.10 ubuntu to 9.04
07:12
<pmatulis>
yoshi_: are you having any trouble with 8.10?
07:12
<yoshi_>
no not at all
07:13
everything is working fine except sabayon
07:13
<pmatulis>
yoshi_: are there any features you need that 9.04 will give you?
07:13
<yoshi_>
but that is a know bug
07:13
ext4 i thought
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<ogra>
yoshi_, follow the normal upgrade procedure for the server side (update-manager etc), move your old chroot out of the way and run an ltsp-build-client to create a new image
07:14
that should be all
07:14
ext4 is not stable enough that you should use it in production
07:14
<yoshi_>
so the new chroot env has a new kernel with better hw support correct ?
07:15
<ogra>
that and it has changes that only apply at build time of the image ... which is why you should rebuilt it
07:15
<yoshi_>
ok nice
07:16
its because i read some problems with graphics if upgrading
07:16
<ogra>
the intel driver has some issues
07:16
<yoshi_>
but thats fixable ?
07:16
<ogra>
its listed somewhere in the release notes
07:16
it mainly manifests after suspend/resume on laptops
07:17
and you might have slowness issues with compiz
07:17
the first isnt really relevant on thin clients :)
07:17
<yoshi_>
ltsp is great but what is really misses is something like sabayon or the functionalitity to easy manage preferences for users en policies and priviliges
07:17
<ogra>
and the second only if you plan to enforce using compiz
07:17
<yoshi_>
i disabled compiz for use on thin clients
07:17
so that doesn't matter
07:17
<ogra>
then it should be fine ...
07:18
<yoshi_>
o we got another question dough:
07:18
<ogra>
just keep your old chroot and img around ... then you can revert easily
07:18
<yoshi_>
currently we are building implementation for use in a school with 140 computers
07:19
and running flash firefox and some other programs locally
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<yoshi_>
but we want to replace the big boxes
07:19
with small clients
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<ogra>
how small ?
07:19
<yoshi_>
wich thin client you propose for running apps also localy
07:19
i was lookin into wyse terminals
07:20
or building ourselfs with atom matx boards maybe
07:20
<ogra>
using localapps with less than 256M and 500MHz wont work well (i would even recommend 512M and 1GHz)
07:20
<yoshi_>
1ghz at least yes
07:20
<ogra>
right, ATOM boxes will be fine
07:20
just put enough ram in
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<yoshi_>
well than i was thinking on these EE pc's from asus
07:21
but seems there are problems also with it
07:21
<ogra>
they will be perfectly fine
07:22
<yoshi_>
Asus Nettop Eee Box B202
07:22
something like this works fine with ltsp ?
07:23
<ogra>
i have no experience with them but i would expect them to work fine
07:23
<yoshi_>
ok we will order one to test it :)
07:23
<ogra>
i know there are a bunch of people that use EEEs (though not the nettops) with ltsp
07:23
<yoshi_>
thank ogra for the help already :)
07:24
<ogra>
and if you look at disklessworkstations.com you will see that their main procudt has similar specs ...
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<ogra>
and i know _UsUrPeR_ did a lot of testing with it
07:24
so that should work with jaunty
07:24* _UsUrPeR_ 's ears are burning
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<yoshi_>
i notice them
07:25
the one with the atom cpu
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and the via cpu
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<ogra>
_UsUrPeR_, you guys really need to get rid of these e1000's
07:26
<yoshi_>
the smartcard reader is also a nice feature
07:26* ogra assumes the support costs these generate smart out the money you can make by selling them
07:26
<yoshi_>
anyone has experiance with that ? so if a user puts in his smartcard he gets logged into his desktop
07:27
<ogra>
no, ldm is missing support for it yet
07:27
you can probably hack something up for it though
07:27
<Bushmills>
yoshi_, compare the eeepc and the acer aspire one, also a netbook, about same specs. much better screen, at least compared to older eeepcs. i don't know about the most recents ones, whether they come with improved displays
07:27
<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: believe me, we're trying to :)
07:28
<ogra>
heh
07:28
Bushmills, well, he was talking about nettops, not netbooks :) the former usually come without displays
07:28
<_UsUrPeR_>
fwiw, I have heard that they will run win98 off a flash drive... competantly
07:28
<Bushmills>
(and the aspire have 2 smart card readers. one for permanent flash extension, the other as removable storage
07:29
<ogra>
_UsUrPeR_, i run mine as a router (jammcq gave me one years ago) ...
07:29
<Bushmills>
oh, sry
07:29
<ogra>
_UsUrPeR_, it takes 4mins to boot to a cmdline
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(from CF card)
07:29
<yoshi_>
Bushmills: thanks but i was indeed in the need for nettops and not books :)
07:29
<ogra>
works fine for the purpose once its up though
07:30
<_UsUrPeR_>
Yeah, we tend to point people looking for text-based terminals towardf those
07:30
<ogra>
single app kiosk setups could also work
07:31
i know jim used them for database form apps
07:32
<Bushmills>
yoshi_ do you know about the ndiyo slim client?
07:32
aka thin client
07:33
<yoshi_>
nope
07:33
<Bushmills>
http://www.ndiyo.org/systems looked interesting, a while back.
07:34
<yoshi_>
oo yes i read about that
07:34
but it's again a solution build on top of the already free solutions :)
07:35
if ltsp keep evolving it will becom a nice alternative of terminal services
07:35
and also very usefull in the coorperate enviroment
07:35
i believe
07:41
<Bushmills>
here's a video which does away with the thin client altogether: http://www.ndiyo.org/files/hubster/hubster.mp4
07:44
<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: so what makes you say we need to get rid of those?
07:46
<yoshi_>
bushmills that is a good solution in a computer lab or so but not for us because we need to go over ip
07:55
<ogra>
_UsUrPeR_, they are simply to underpowered
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: preaching to the quire ;)
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08:20* Bushmills runs an atom N270 in the mainly used machine, and disagrees with "underpowered"
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<Bushmills>
they may not be good for all tasks. video encoding is slower than real time, for example.
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<ogra>
Bushmills, we were talking about this one: http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/200110.html?id=95INuotB :)
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<Bushmills>
oh. my bad again.
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<treyh>
Good Morning
09:05
Gadi if you're around, upgrading to jaunty and install ltspfs worked very well
09:07
<Gadi>
treyh: good to hear. worked very well = in ldm and rdesktop?
09:07
<treyh>
yes sir
09:07
<Gadi>
cool
09:07
cdrom and USB both?
09:07
<treyh>
the only thing that it did that was weird
09:07
Gadi: yes
09:08* Gadi awaits the "but"
09:08
<Gadi>
:)
09:08
<treyh>
on the usb stick, after I removed it, it didn't remove the folder out of drives on ltsp
09:08
but no biggie
09:08
<Gadi>
hmm...
09:08
<treyh>
I didn't try to duplicate it
09:08
or test it
09:09
but I will today if I get a chance to upgrade this customer's ltsp box
09:09
<Gadi>
ok
09:09
thx
09:09
<treyh>
np
09:09
<Gadi>
devil's in the details
09:09
<treyh>
i think most normal users wouldn't notice but teachers are extremly picky lol
09:10
<Gadi>
well, dev's don't like the quirks either :)
09:10
usually speaks to something under the surface
09:11
<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi/treyh: About the removal of mounted USB drives from the desktop, I had the same thing happen to me.
09:11
removing worked the second time around though
09:11
<Gadi>
oh yeah? in ldm?
09:11
<_UsUrPeR_>
ubuntu 9.04 in ldm, yes
09:11
<Gadi>
hmm...
09:11
interesting...
09:12
<_UsUrPeR_>
after a server reboot I tried again. It worked that time
09:12* Gadi strokes long mythical grey beard
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<treyh>
in ldm mine always removed
09:12
but in rdesktop it didn't
09:13
I'll double check today though hopefully, have a boring sales meeting this morning, about a phone system lol
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<markit>
hi, during boot clients spend a lot of time "populating /dev" and then with messages like "hdc no response, status 0x0A, resetting driver" and then the same for hdd. What am I doing wrong? this way it takes very long to boot (2 minutes)
09:48
(thin clients without local storage)
09:53
<Gadi>
markit: is there a cdrom?
09:53
IDE cdrom
09:53
that is
09:54
if not, go into the BIOS and disable your IDE bus entirely
09:54
that may help
09:57
<_UsUrPeR_>
I has anyone made a good writeup for ltsp-localapps implementation yet? With permanent natting and IP forward and everything?
09:58* _UsUrPeR_ will embark on the project if it has not been done yet
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<markit>
Gadi: mmm it has no cdrom either.. so no fancy parameter on ltsp side?
10:04
thanks a lot, I've to run
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10:10* _UsUrPeR_ considers the silence to be indicative of a negative response
10:10
<_UsUrPeR_>
ok, I'm making a writeup :)
10:11
<ogra>
_UsUrPeR_, stgrabers blog entry is all i know
10:11
<_UsUrPeR_>
I'll be putting something in the ltsp twiki
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<alkisg>
_UsUrPeR_: NATting is explained there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowtoNAT
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<ogra>
thats pretty outdated
10:13
there should be as doc based on ufw
10:14
<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: ufw?
10:14
<ogra>
the firewall ubuntu ships by default
10:14
<_UsUrPeR_>
ahh
10:14
I'll try to integrate that
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<ogra>
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
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<stgraber>
ogra: yeah, LTSP spec approved by Rick
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<_UsUrPeR_>
what's normally used for scripting with LTSP if not bash? I want to change DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="DROP" to DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="ACCEPT" in /etc/default/ufw
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11:37* Lns wonders why 'petermatulis' has been editing the ubuntu ltsp wiki and breaking the formatting of the sections
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<Blinny>
...sabotage...
11:38
<Lns>
heh
11:38
kind of futile, given the revision history of wikis.. =p
11:39
<Blinny>
So is graffiti, given the ubiquity of more paint.
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<Lns>
you really think he was sabotaging?
11:42
looks like his intentions were good but he left it in a bad state
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<cyberorg>
ogra, tried compcache for the first time today, 64M VM client suddenly became very usable, including localapps xterm, localdev and sound :)
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<fs001>
hi all. I am using LTSP 5 in debian lenny. I cannot use pen drives in terminals. pls help.
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<fs001>
hi all. I am using LTSP 5 in debian lenny. I cannot use pen drives in terminals. pls help.
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<cliebow>
fs001, you might have to wait til you can talk to vagrantc
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<Lns>
fs001: have you read the documentation regarding setting up localdev ?
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<cliebow>
i am still in 4.2..so no..
11:54
<fs001>
ya
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<staffencasa>
it's something like /localdev in the lts.conf file
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<Gadi>
fs001: you may need lenny-backports version of ltspfs/ltspfsd
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<fs001>
I have created lts.conf and added the line LOCALDEV=True
11:55* Gadi seems to recall someone saying that here
11:55
<cliebow>
or Gadi might be a help 8~)
11:55
<Gadi>
well, vagrantc would be the authority
11:55
:)
11:55
I am just relaying what I have heard in the channel
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<Lns>
fs001: are your users part of the 'fuse' group? (is that applicable to debian?)
11:57
<fs001>
the user which I tried exists in fuse group
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<Lns>
fs001: have you checked the client's logs for clues?
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<fs001>
which log? /var/log/syslog in client?
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<Lns>
fs001: dmesg would probably have the info you need
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<fs001>
Lns: which log? /var/log/syslog in client?
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<Lns>
woah!
12:12* Lns had no idea simply CTRL+Fn would switch ttys...always thought it was CTRL+ALT+Fn
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<Lns>
At least when you're already on a text tty..
12:13
fs001: log into the TC text tty and type 'dmesg'
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<Blinny>
Lns: Don't you mean alt+Fn?
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<Lns>
Blinny: blrrrp..yes =p
12:29* Lns glares at his not-finished-coffee
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<Lns>
So weird, because i've always been in the habit of configuring my kb shortcuts to change wm workspaces w/Alt+Fn
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<Ahmuck>
firefox is crashing on ltsp clients
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it's a problem
12:48* _UsUrPeR_ touches that with a 40-foot pole
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ahmuck: care to elaborate?
12:49
<Ahmuck>
firefox is randomly crashing. happens with adobe flash more often
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Ahmuck: What environment are you running LTSP in? Also, tell me about your clients. What version of flash do you presently have installed?
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<Ahmuck>
ubuntu
12:54
latest flash
12:54
ubuntu 9.04
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<Lns>
Ahmuck: just FF crashing, or the whole TC session?
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<Ahmuck>
just firefox
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upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 ltsp to ubuntu 9.04 ltsp
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<Lns>
Ahmuck: and only when using flash?
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or "mostly" ?
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<Ahmuck>
on the clients. on the server it's fine, unless a client crashes, and then it appears to crashe all opened browsers
13:06
mostly. not entirely
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<Lns>
weird
13:06* Lns remembers something about this in hardy a while back that had to do w/entropy, but was a different situation
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<Lns>
Ahmuck: have you done the firefox optimizations described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Firefox3Optimize ?
13:08
Some of that "safe browsing" malarkey might be hosing stuff, i dunno..
13:08
Who knows what's broken in the global ff prefs in jaunty though, seems like every release something else doesn't work correctly there
13:08* Lns curses not being able to easily set default homepage for everyone through firefox.js
13:15* Blinny curses not being able to set bidi.browser.ui through firefox.js
13:16* Blinny curses not being able to set persistent print_header* and print_footer* settings through firefox.js
13:16* Blinny curses firefox.js
13:16* Lns wonders if firefox-gnome-support could help these issues
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<Blinny>
ubufox or whatever is what is screwing w/ bidi.browser.ui
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Lns: What do you mean re: firefox-gnome-support ?
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<Lns>
Blinny: well, at least if you use gnome, maybe firefox-gnome-support could incorporate some gconf magic to take care of what firefox.js barfs up on the floor
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<Blinny>
I'm ashamed to state that I've historically shunned gconf-editor
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<Lns>
You know, once you see the potential of it, it's really pretty nice to have. And it's definitely not anything like the windows registry/regedit - much, much simpler, cleaner, and extensible
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Of course, I'd much rather have the FF team fix the bugs in their global configs,...
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but I get the feeling from them that the code is so buried and scattered that it wouldn't be worth trying
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<Blinny>
*Nod*
13:26
Dude. Fiire is no more..??
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<alkisg>
Lns, sudo gedit /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/defaults/profile/user.js
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and insert: user_pref("browser.startup.homepage", "http://www.google.com/");
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<Lns>
alkisg: that gets overwritten on every update, no?
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<alkisg>
No, that's prefs.js
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I don't think user.js gets overwritten
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<Lns>
hrm, that might work then...have you done that w/success?
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<alkisg>
Works, but I'm not sure about the updates thing
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<vagrantc>
if "dpkg -S /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/defaults/profile/user.js" shows it belonging to a package, it'll get overwritten.
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<alkisg>
That file doesn't exists, it's user-created, but when firefox gets updated I don't know if it transfers it to the new firefox-3.0.x directory...
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<Blinny>
.../profile is a symlink to /etc/firefox-*
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I don't think user.js works
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<vagrantc>
ah, if profile is a symlink to /etc/, you should be set.
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<alkisg>
I've just tried with the ubuntu guest session, it works for me.
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<vagrantc>
presuming it works, of course :)
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<Blinny>
Hrm. I've just tried and no worky for me :(
13:45* alkisg has 9.04
13:46* Blinny has 8.04.2
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<Blinny>
Damn.
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<Lns>
here's a weird question that's cropped up a few times in school environments..is there a way to lock down permissions for users so that they can't *change* them (i.e. to try and lock out other users who have permissions via acl or similar), regardless of whether they own the files or not?
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<Blinny>
alkisg: painful/less upgrade to 9.04 ?
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Lns: you could always wrap chown
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<alkisg>
I've only tried upgrading once, from 7.10 to 8.04 (and it broke), ever since then I install from scratch
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<Blinny>
alkisg: Preserving /home or ..?
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<alkisg>
Yes, i've even made a small script to transfer the users
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<Blinny>
I'm more worried about some esoteric .local or .metacity or .gnome2 something that causes problems when suddenly loaded in Jaunty.
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<Lns>
Blinny: good idea. though i'm not sure if nautilus uses chown specifically
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or chmod, etc
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<alkisg>
I got a small problem with the panels (the new fusa icon) so I had to call gconftool-2 for all users to erase the panel settings
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*not with 9.04, that was with 8.10
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*with 9.04 I don't think I had any problems with local user settings
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<Lns>
it'd be cool if gnome/gconf was smart enough to detect a (drastic) version change and automatically back up previous settings
13:51
or ask the user "do you want to attempt to update your current settings, or start over?"
13:51
<alkisg>
Here's a one-liner to change the start page, that works for me: echo 'user_pref("browser.startup.homepage", "http://www.google.gr/");' | sudo tee /etc/firefox-*/profile/user.js
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<Lns>
alkisg: nice, thanks =)
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<alkisg>
But it's a "default" setting, not a mandatory one
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<Lns>
alkisg: sure...you could probably change that w/ 'user_lockPref' or whichever is correct, right?
13:53
<alkisg>
Is there such a thing? /me looks...
13:53
<Lns>
yep
13:54* Lns isn't sure if lockPref is available in all config files though
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<Lns>
anyway i'm out to save the world by installing a soundcard in the ltsp server so kids can hear sound through rdesktop. =p
13:54
crazy ms tactics
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<treyh>
Lns: you tried using local sound?
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<Lns>
treyh: whta do you mean?
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<treyh>
Lns: on the rdesktop command add -r sound:local:alsa
13:56
I believe it uses local sound on the client to be redirected to rdesktop
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<Lns>
treyh: i've done '-r sound:local' -- is sound:local:alsa supposed to emulate a sound card in windows? the windows apps themselves seem to require a sound card/driver to work
13:57
treyh: i think you need both an audio chipset and the '-r sound:local'
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<treyh>
if the client has audio hardware, it should work
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<Lns>
treyh: hmm. are you sure?
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<treyh>
all my clients are rdesktoping into a TS on vmware that has no sound card
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<Lns>
hmm, that's my setup too.
13:59
how does adding :alsa (i've seen :oss too) change things? I wrap my rdesktop command w/padsp
14:00
Well i'll test it while i'm out there..thanks for the tip treyh =)
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<treyh>
lns: I think just sound:local tries to automatically specific a driver
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using alsa or oss specifies which to use
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but remember
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the client, must have working sound hardware
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Lns: no problem, let me know if it doesn't work
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Lns: if you're still around, forgot to tell you to also add this to lts.conf
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SOUND = false
14:19* alkisg just tried putting lockPref("browser.startup.homepage", "http://www.alkisg.com/"); in /etc/firefox-*/prefs/user.js (that's a different location - lockPref didn't work in ../profile) and it worked fine, now all users have a locked homepage!!! :)
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<alkisg>
Lns, Blinny, ^^^
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<_UsUrPeR_>
hey guys
14:29
I'm having a problem with sed
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!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
_UsUrPeR_: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
14:30
<ltsppbot>
"_UsUrPeR_" pasted "need sed help" (4 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/329
14:32
<_UsUrPeR_>
woop, wait. I got that. needed a few escape characters.
14:33
namely: sed 's/\#net\/ipv4\/ip_forward=1/net\/ipv4\/ip_forward=1/' ~/sysctl.conf.old > ~/sysctl.conf
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unfortunately, it prints a blank file
14:38
never mind, I got it
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<Blinny>
alkisg: No worky for me :( -- must be a Jaunty thing
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<Goldeneyes>
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<_UsUrPeR_>
goldeneyes: most in here speak english
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<Goldeneyes>
wondered if some of you implemented LTSP to run multimedia applications much like French classes
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<treyh>
you mean like videos
15:33
?
15:33
Goldeneyes: like an application that will teach French Class?
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<Goldeneyes>
treyh yes videos and sound
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<epsas>
maybe Rosetta under WINE?
15:36
<Goldeneyes>
treyh: Yes will teach frensch class
15:40
I already have the application but this is for Windows, what I want is to implement a laboratory with 25 terminals and running this application, multimedia (video and sound), but my question is whether the performance of LTSP handle or have much traffic on the network
15:42
<_UsUrPeR_>
someone mind reviewing my ufw tables to tell me why localapps is not working properly?
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<ltsppbot>
"_UsUrPeR_" pasted "Little help with ufw? \O_o/" (75 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/330
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<treyh>
Goldeneyes: best way is to try to run the application under wine and see how it performs
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_UsUrPeR_: I would but haven't dove into ufw yet
15:49
<_UsUrPeR_>
I'm trying to make it so you'll never have to :)
15:49
<treyh>
_UsUrPeR_: perfect lol
15:50
I'm actually very familiar with firewalls, spend a lot of time with openbsd's packet filter and freebsd's IPF
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but ipchains I've never read upon
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it's weird to me how you enable commands but they aren't saved unless you put them in a file
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16:00* _UsUrPeR_ is out fo thu weekend
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<_UsUrPeR_>
woo!
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<jhaig|home>
Hi. Someone was helping me yesterday with getting a graphics on a client working. I now have it working (I changed the old CRT screen for a newer flatscreen). Now, when I move the mouse I get lines (looks like interference) across the screen. I tried using the tool in Ubuntu to detect the monitor but it says it is unknown. Can anyone help?
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<jhaig|home>
I'll try again some other time. Bye.,
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<treyh>
LNS you around?
18:06
Lns: you around?
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<Lns>
treyh: yo
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just got back
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treyh: sound=false would help how?
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It works fine for me - all my thin clients have sound chipsets. using '-r sound:local' OR '-r sound:local:oss' seems to work fine... I just took oss out
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I had no idea rdesktop could redirect so many things, pretty nifty
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<Lns>
Anyone know if you can disable sound in Ubuntu LTSP for specific users only?
18:37
It looks lke the whole 'audio' group thing is depreciated as none of the users are a member but all still get sound on the TC
18:42* Lns cheers'
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