IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 12 September 2013   (all times are UTC)

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06:41
<yure_>
Hi! LTSP seems great to me for my sales team, but is there a guide how to config different apps there (like mail client and pidgin) for them on deployment?
06:41
on ubuntu that is
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07:28
<zend>
Hi, all. Help me, please... After reboot of the terminal server, thin clients can't log-in anymore :(
07:28
But... The problem is not with authentication
07:30
After entering the password i got the log-in screen again
07:31
<muppis>
Did you reboot clients as well?
07:31
<zend>
Yes, of course...
07:32
<muppis>
Runned ltsp-update-sshkeys ?
07:33
<zend>
Yes.
07:33
And ltsp-update-image too
07:33
After that
07:33
From auth.log:
07:33
Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3909]: Connection closed by 172.16.9.74 [preauth]
07:33
Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3911]: Connection closed by 172.16.9.74 [preauth]
07:33
Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3915]: pam_krb5(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname=user uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=xxx.office.lan
07:33
Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3913]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 172.16.9.74 port 38204 ssh2
07:33
Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3913]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user user by (uid=0)
07:33
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 groupadd[1535]: group added to /etc/group: name=sambashare, GID=998
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Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 groupadd[1535]: group added to /etc/gshadow: name=sambashare
07:33
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 groupadd[1535]: new group: name=sambashare, GID=998
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1543]: add 'user' to group 'adm'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1543]: add 'user' to shadow group 'adm'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1548]: add 'user' to group 'cdrom'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1548]: add 'user' to shadow group 'cdrom'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1553]: add 'user' to group 'dip'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1553]: add 'user' to shadow group 'dip'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1561]: add 'user' to group 'fuse'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1561]: add 'user' to shadow group 'fuse'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1569]: add 'user' to group 'lpadmin'
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Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1569]: add 'user' to shadow group 'lpadmin'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1574]: add 'user' to group 'plugdev'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1574]: add 'user' to shadow group 'plugdev'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1579]: add 'user' to group 'sambashare'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1579]: add 'user' to shadow group 'sambashare'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1584]: add 'user' to group 'sudo'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1584]: add 'user' to shadow group 'sudo'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1589]: add 'user' to group 'user'
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:22 ltsp sshd[4051]: subsystem request for sftp by user user
07:34
<muppis>
Hold your horses. Paste to pastebin that long.
07:34
<zend>
Sep 12 10:26:28 ltsp sshd[4051]: Received disconnect from 172.16.9.74: 11: disconnected by user
07:34
Sep 12 10:26:28 ltsp sshd[3913]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user user
07:34
All is ok :(
07:34
And any errors in syslog
07:34
I am using Ubuntu
07:34
Sorry.
07:36
<muppis>
pam_krb5(sshd:auth): authentication failure; -- That's the problem. Can you login at server as this user?
07:36
Locally.
07:36
<zend>
I have two authenticating types
07:37
LDAP and local users
07:37
At this moment i trying to log-in as local user
07:37
" Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from"
07:39
<muppis>
Open root shell to client and try to login to the server with ssh from there.
07:43
<zend>
No problem with this.
07:43
Logged as AD user from thin client's console to LTSP server
07:43
By ssh.
07:43
As local (on ltsp) users can log-in too.
07:45
<muppis>
Then problem is it can't start selected GUI for that user. Backup users home dir and recreate empty one with proper permissions so you see is there any glitch in settings.
07:46
<zend>
One moment...
07:50
I just created a new empty user, and, unfortunately, any changes
07:51
<muppis>
!gnome-failsafe
07:51
<ltsp>
Error: "gnome-failsafe" is not a valid command.
07:51
<muppis>
!gnome
07:51
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'gnome', but I do know about these similar topics: 'gnome-wm', 'gnome-panel', 'gnome-shell', 'gnome-classic', 'lock-gnome3', 'gnome-fallback'
07:51
<muppis>
!gnome-fallback
07:51
<ltsp>
gnome-fallback: Unity, compiz etc are sometimes slow or buggy. To select gnome-fallback as your default session, install the gnome-session-fallback package, and put this in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback"
07:51
<muppis>
Tried that one?
07:52
<zend>
I am using xfce and ldm :-)
07:52
Not gnome.
07:53
In syslog i have an errors: Sep 12 10:49:23 ltsp74 kernel: [ 86.162922] nbd9: unknown partition table
07:53
Sep 12 10:49:23 ltsp74 kernel: [ 86.168067] block nbd9: NBD_DISCONNECT
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Sep 12 10:49:23 ltsp74 kernel: [ 86.169509] block nbd9: Receive control failed (result -32)
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Sep 12 10:49:23 ltsp74 kernel: [ 86.169565] block nbd9: queue cleared
07:53
It is normal?
07:55
the nbd-server is running.
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<muppis>
First one is normal and can be ignored, but I'm not sure about rest. I think no.
07:59
I'm little bit out of suggestions now. Sorry.
08:00
<zend>
:-) Thank you!
08:00
<muppis>
Be welcome.
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08:57
<zend>
Still can't solve my problem :'(
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09:37
<rickogden>
hey, are there any command line tools for listing booted up clients and logged in users (sort of like Epoptes does)?
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09:45
<administrateur>
bonjour
09:45
il y a quelqu'un?
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09:58
<vilas>
hi
09:59
i want to take remote desktop of ltsp client ? How can I do this ?
10:01
I tried "xrdp" but it ask userner and password, when I typed username and password it dispay the error that "login failed"
10:15
<workingcats>
rickogden, if you use ssh for the clients' home dir or anything like that then "who" should show logged in users
10:15
vilas, try the clients' local root password. not sure but that might work
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10:19
<vilas>
I can login through ssh as a "root" user remotly and then "su - <username>"
10:21
but I want to take whole desktop remotly
10:22
because of user have some issue in GUI mode or some time they want to help
10:22
<workingcats>
try entering root&password in xrdp...
10:23
<vilas>
yes root&password work but it's give gui terminal
10:25
when i search in deeply i found that username is showing /etc/passwd file but in /etc/shadow file username is not showing there
10:25
there fore login is failed
10:26
<workingcats>
because the clients log on via network on the server
10:26
are you sure xrdp can even do what you want?
10:26
<vilas>
yes correct
10:26
<workingcats>
some such tools can only open new sessions
10:27
but if you're using thin clients that shouldnt even be necessary i dont think
10:28
<vilas>
there are one tools given for thin clients "Epoptes"
10:28
this is the best tools
10:28
we can help user remotly
10:29
<workingcats>
so why not use that?
10:29
<vilas>
but this tool sometime work and sometime not works
10:29
currently i m using this tools
10:30
<workingcats>
i would try to figure out how to make epoptes work reliably
10:30
or look whatever epoptes uses for remote control, and directly try that
10:30
<vilas>
i want to alternet for this tool
10:31
<workingcats>
don't know i'm afraid
10:31
<vilas>
why ?
10:31
<workingcats>
hm?
10:31
i dont know alternatives
10:32
<vilas>
ohhh
10:32
<workingcats>
but if you like epoptes i would suggest trying to fix it. your decision ofc :)
10:33
<vilas>
okey, i will try to fix it
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12:06
<zend>
Here is my problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcsnQcuKxBE
12:06
As i see that :)
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12:12
<zend>
Syslog messages: http://pastebin.com/uuMnMHCH
12:14
Xorg.log from thin client: http://pastebin.com/xp5rUZ4H
12:16
ldm is not starting?
12:17
Look... If i trying to start ldm from console, i see the errors:
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(process:2555): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion `string != NULL' failed
12:17
No such file or directory: No such file or directory
12:17
date: invalid date `+%s'
12:17
/usr/share/ldm/ldm-script: 2: [: Illegal number:
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bs=1024, sz=1200889856 bytes
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<vilas>
zend - in ltsp chroot - check your tmp folder permission - it should be drwxrwxrwt
12:21
<zend>
Yes, permissions is 777
12:23
<vilas>
not 777 - it should be 1777
12:23
sticky bit
12:23
<zend>
Yes, bit tmp is set.
12:23
drwxrwxrwt
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<zend>
On ltsp client i see that directory "ltsp-localapps-user-nQy5QR" appears, but disappears after a few seconds (when I see a black screen)
12:30
In tmp directory
12:30
On thin client
12:31
Trying to disable local apps...
13:06
No
13:06
Disabling local apps does not help me
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<zend>
Strange, but with root account i can log-in and all work fine
13:35
but which permissions is unsufficient...
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<matthias_android>
I ran apt-get dist-upgrade in chroot. And now i get always an error with the kernel when im installing software via apt-get. I already ran apt-get install -f but still the same issue. The second thing are java applets in firefox on fat clients. Im using ubuntu 12.04lts ltsp
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16:13
<zend>
Guys
16:13
Can i build the xubuntu thin client image from the ubuntu ltsp server? :)
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<AndChat|517376>
zend normal and then install xubuntu-desktop into that image i think
16:56
<||cw>
well, you normally don't install a desktop in the client image at all
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17:57
<matthias_android>
I ran apt-get dist-upgrade in chroot. And now i get always an error with the kernel when im installing software via apt-get. I already ran apt-get install -f but still the same issue. The second thing are java applets in firefox on fat clients. Im using ubuntu 12.04lts ltsp
17:58
<alkisg>
Put the error in pastebin.com
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18:53
<matthias_android>
I will do tomorrow because im.not at school
18:54
<alkisg>
matthias_android: it's very likely that the error is that grub couldn't be installed, try with ltsp-chroot -m apt-get dist-upgrade
18:54
A kernel upgrade triggers update-grub
18:55
<matthias_android>
One more question. I installed dropbox and if i start dropbox on my client it wants to download dropbox again
18:55
<alkisg>
Thin or fat?
18:55
<matthias_android>
I will test. Fat clients
18:55
<alkisg>
You need to install dropbox in the chroot
18:56
<matthias_android>
I did so. I read the instruction on dropbox.com
18:56
Is there a way to do a full install?
18:56
<alkisg>
Full install for dropbox? I don't know...
18:57
Better ask again when in school, to see error messages, installed files etc
18:57
<matthias_android>
Ok im just a student who wants the school switch from winXP to linux
18:59
Last question. Are you familiar with Privoxy?
18:59
<alkisg>
Nope
19:00
<matthias_android>
I don't know, is ubuntu one preinstalled?
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<bennabiy>
alkisg: Would SSD in a server make for a better client experience?
19:25
No fatclients
19:25
<alkisg>
Sure, 300 mb/sec are always better than 50 mb/sec :)
19:26
<bennabiy>
thought so
19:26
<alkisg>
Although mostly for the first program launch, if SSD contains only the system and not /home
19:27
<bennabiy>
I am probably going to finish my changes and then upload them. I will send out a re-request for review once that is done... I have been very focused on other things this week.
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<alkisg>
Since caching would make the second run (of e.g. libreoffice by another user) mostly the same
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<bennabiy>
Yes. I have set up a couple of servers to do that. Offload /home and /tmp and a couple others to either RAM or a HDD
19:28
If on a gigabit lan, would the bottleneck of getting an image to a client be in the network, or the I/O of the HD?
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<alkisg>
First client => HD, second+ clients => network, very old clients => cpu too, for decompressing
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<digitalirony>
sup
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