IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 26 February 2019   (all times are UTC)

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06:45
<quinox>
you can use a remote desktop solution
06:45
SSH, VNC, TeamViewer
06:45
and just run any of the non-fragile systems; OSX and Linux work fine
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06:46
<quinox>
My mother uses OSX with a backup drive which she connects when the Mac asks for it; once the hardware breaks she buys a new Mac, I plug in the harddrive and click on "restore" and she can resume whatever she was doing
06:47
I also know a guy who's mom uses Ubuntu, he does SSH / VNC when he needs to do any maintenance
06:48
I refuse to help my father, he runs Windows and keeps installing weird stuff breaking everything
06:57
If you stick to Ubuntu LTS you have 4 years before you need to perform a dist-upgrade
06:58
<alkisg>
(dist-upgrade means "a normal update"; while do-release-upgrade is the one that gets you a newer ubutu)
06:58
They renamed dist-upgrade to full-upgrade recently, to avoid that confusion
06:58
<quinox>
ah yeah, my bad
07:00
OSX can be fully controlled over VNC, including the login; I maintain an OSX machine in a datacenter on the other side of the country over VNC
07:00
anyway, my 2 cents
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20:58
<alkisg>
vagrantc: context = possible new name for ltsp... (liveclone)...
20:58* alkisg hasn't seen any answers from ltsp-developer in ages now...
21:07* vagrantc would propose nettleboot :)
21:11
<vagrantc>
e.g. netboot, but with a sting!
21:13
hrm... there's already "nettle" used in the cryptography namespace
21:14
<mwalters>
starboot?
21:14
asteriboot for alkisg ?
21:14
:)
21:15
(invoking imagery of a star topology for server and clients)
21:23
<quinox>
it's more than just booting
21:27
<vagrantc>
star topology is a nice metaphor to invoke
21:30
alkisg: liveclone, while touching on important aspects, seems a bit ... sterile
21:33
<alkisg>
What was the other one... boottwin or something
21:33
vagrantc: true; unfortunately all the good names are taken :D
21:33
<vagrantc>
looks a bit too much like boot-win
21:34
<alkisg>
Organization names and user names in github get nice github.com/name pages, so they're all taken
21:34
And it's really not nice to have e.g. github.com/alkisg/ltsp, the project name in the second "subdir" there
21:35
<vagrantc>
indeed
21:35
<alkisg>
And projects don't get ltsp.github.io pages either, only organizations do; so ... all taken
21:35
I tried from "masi" maintain a single installation to any 4 letter combination with "template" or "desktop image" or something, .... all taken
21:35
<vagrantc>
asterinet sounds good too
21:36
<alkisg>
Yet ltsp was free, so I got it :D
21:36
<vagrantc>
heh
21:36
<alkisg>
That reminds me of asterisk
21:36
<vagrantc>
alkisg: so, domain availability keeping ltsp high on the list? :)
21:37
<alkisg>
asterinet => free!
21:37
vagrantc: I don't know... there's nooooo feedback from any of the ltsp.org folks
21:38
And it would take months to clean up all the old stuff that needs to be deleted, and not just code, but teams and repositories and all
21:38
Too much work for little benefit; people see ltsp.org and say "ah, abandoned since 2013"
21:38
<vagrantc>
i hear ya
21:39
there is asteri.net ... which is some shopping site
21:39
<alkisg>
mwalters: I reserved asterinet in github :D
21:39
How did you know that star is asteri in greek?
21:40
I'd like a name that would focus on "this project is about maintaining one image; we don't care if it's cached in local disk or if it comes from the net etc etc"... but... good names are really difficult
21:45
Btw, liveclone vs ltsp, adds 3*7 additional letters = 21 more characters in the kernel cmdline, with 255 being the limit... eh, hopefully we'll keep cmdline short
21:49
Another idea was .... some devs are starting to use village names for projects, like wayland, weston, dracut... so... syrrako, a nearby village here :D
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<quinox>
I prefer Syrrako over *boot
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<josefig>
one question, if I do the installation of the chroot fat clients, can it be possible to view home directories among all fat clients? between them.
23:59
I installed chroot ltsp fat clients, but among them they cannot see other users' home directories.