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Channel log from 11 October 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<oviri>
hi
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<oviri>
i'm in search for documentation to get my webcam work on a thin client (ltsp5 on ubuntu feisty)
02:09
i've take a look at ltsp mailing list but i have found nothing
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<oviri>
:s anybody had configured a webcam on a thin client with ltsp5?
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<oviri>
so, i'll ask google again, hope that i'll find aswers :|
04:36
thanx, bye
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<Q-FUNK>
guys
05:39
it seems that the Ubuntu LTSP HOWTO skips one important step: configuring DHCP.
05:39
instead, it syas that everythign should work out of the box on Edubuntu
05:41
<ogra>
Q-FUNK, nope
05:41
read again :)
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<ogra>
"Configure your spare interface for the thin clients to have the IP 192.168.0.1, then follow the instructions below." ....
05:42
"Note that if you want to use another IP than the above, you need to edit the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file to match the IP values and restart the dhcp server." ...
05:42
<Q-FUNK>
ogra: it might help if someone reviewed all the HOWTOs availabe on the ubuntu wiki and marked documents concerining older releases as such
05:43
the documentation is incorrect
05:43
<ogra>
well, i constantly keep an eye on the docs under https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
05:43
<Q-FUNK>
dhcp is simply not started unless that sample dhcpd.conf is copied to /etc/dhcp3/
05:43
<ogra>
they ususally match the laztest release
05:43
thats wrong
05:44
<Q-FUNK>
not it's not
05:44
<ogra>
if -standalone is installed /etc/dhcp3/ is completely ignored
05:44
<Q-FUNK>
I've had requests from 3 different customers and I ended up haivng to copy the config in all 3 cases
05:44
on Gutsy beta
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<ogra>
well, doesnt happen here
05:45
neither on beta nor RC
05:45
and looking at the code nothing changed
05:45
/etc/dhcp3/ is still ignored on my fresh install as well as on my upgraded one
05:46
are you sure you used ubuntu ?
05:46
debian does handle that completely different
05:46
there you have to touch the dhcp config and it uses /etc/dhcp3
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<Q-FUNK>
read again. I said Gutsty beta.
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<ogra>
i know what you said
05:47
<Q-FUNK>
on edubuntu.
05:47
<ogra>
i'm doing about 6 test installs a ady since more than 10 days
05:47
i would think i would have noticed if there were any dhcp probs
05:48
did you fulfill the reqs for the automated install ? (two NICS etc ?)
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<Q-FUNK>
also, the external interface had to be enabled by hand in /etc/network/interfaces as it was commented out by default
05:48
<ogra>
hmm, not here
05:49
are you really sure that was beta ?
05:49
<Q-FUNK>
and stupid udev had named the interfaces as eth2 and eth3 in its persistant name rules
05:49
<ogra>
that was a pre beta bug
05:49
iirc
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<ogra>
Q-FUNK, i'm really not sure wghat you installed there but edubuntu definatrely never used /etc/dhcp3/ (only /etc/ltsp/), the udev bug was supposed to be fixed on beta (and i cant remember seeing it)
05:58
and i have no explanation why your interfaces file was commented, havent seen that here
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<Q-FUNK>
odd
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<joebaker>
ogra: I've found that Ubuntu 7.04 had dhcpd.conf in both /etc/ltsp/ and in /etc/dhcp3/
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<joebaker>
I resolved it by making one a simbolic link to the other.
07:55
So I would have consistency no matter which file was operated on.
07:55
Good Morning
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<ogra>
joebaker, only the /etc/ltsp/ one is used if it exists
08:10
which is the case in edubuntu by default
08:10
indeed you can link one to the other
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<Blinny>
Why would Gutsy not find my 3c905b card after first boot? I'm already trying acpi=off noapic nolapic
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
08:39
<Blinny>
Morning.
08:40
<sbalneav>
Blinny: No idea. Does lspci see it on the bus?
08:43
<Blinny>
sbalneav: Interestingly, I just figured it out w/ help in #ubuntu+1 -- it was being assigned to eth3
08:43
(even though it's the only NIC in the box)
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<sbalneav>
Ah
08:44
check your /etc/iftab
08:44
You've probably got some other mac addresses in there
08:44
eth0 mac 00:0B:6a:36:40:c4 arp 1
08:44
eth1 mac 00:02:b3:d1:f6:61 arp 1
08:44
on my box
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to assign it to a particular mac, do an eth0 mac <mac of 3c905> arp 1
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reboot the box and voiala
08:45
voila
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<Blinny>
Actually it was in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
08:45
I don't have an /etc/iftab
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<sbalneav>
This gutsy?
08:46
<Blinny>
Yeah
08:46
<sbalneav>
ah, yeah, they changed it in gutsy. Assumed you were at feisty.
08:46
<Blinny>
I'm trying Gutsy to test an LTSP5
08:47
That's funky.
08:47
I guess it makes sense. google wasn't much help though.. I guess I wasn't asking the right questions.
08:47
Thanks sbalneav
08:47
<sbalneav>
NP
08:48
The problem with trying to make everything automagical is when it works the way you want, it's magic. When it DOESN'T, then it's more complicated than doing it manually :)
08:48
<Blinny>
True.
08:48
My boss thinks I made that word up: automagic
08:49
<sbalneav>
Nope. Cetified valid IT word :)
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<jammcq>
hello friends
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<Blinny>
Mawnin.
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<rjune>
jammcq !
09:34
<PMantis>
HI guys. I'm scratching my head (and feeling weird that this isnt' jumping out at me)
09:35
<cyberorg>
hi all!
09:35
<PMantis>
At the school, only *ONE* thin client is connecting via XDMCP, the others have a gray screen??
09:35
restarting GDM doesn't help.
09:36
<sbalneav>
What's the value of SERVER?
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<PMantis>
sbalneav: It's correct, 10.60.1.10
09:38
I ctrl-Alt-backapsace's on a couple TCs.. no help.
09:38* PMantis used to diag this for others in #ltsp, too!
09:39
<PMantis>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2021 2007-05-10 10:53 /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
09:39
All was working last week, and nobody else knows the root PW. heh
09:39
<sbalneav>
Something blocking the port on the server? Is it listening? netstat -an | grep :177, etc.
09:39
<PMantis>
Netstat is ok port 177, no iptables rules
09:39
<sbalneav>
Switch blocking udp 177
09:39
<PMantis>
# netstat -anp | grep ":177 "
09:39
udp 21724 0 0.0.0.0:177 0.0.0.0:* 5447/gdm
09:40
Heh, switches are unmanaged
09:41
I think tcpdump is needed
09:41
<ogra>
grep MaxSessions /etc/gdm/*
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<sbalneav>
yeah, could be
09:41
out of sessions, maybe
09:41
<ogra>
which a restart should solve ...
09:41
i was up for something different :)
09:42
(upgrades that replace config changes ;) )
09:42
<PMantis>
ogra: 3 files, all entries are commented (#)
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<PMantis>
Commented versions show 16.
09:42
<ogra>
yeah, seems to be the default value
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<PMantis>
Students are here, arrrgh. trying a reboot.
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<rjune>
PMantis: sup funk!
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<PMantis>
hey rjune
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<hiko_hitokiri>
hey alguien que hable español y pueda ayudarme
09:58
o donde puedo encontrar ayuda en español
09:59
<vagrantc>
hiko_hitokiri: hablo un poco ...
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<hiko_hitokiri>
I need aid with ltsp I want to know if utilise can be done that the repositorios of my dvd and that it does not lower them of Internet
10:07
<rjune>
PMantis: how you been?
10:08
<hiko_hitokiri>
I need aid with ltsp I want to know if it is possible to do that utilise the repositorios of my dvd and that not them download of Internet
10:08
alguien me puede ayudar
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<hiko_hitokiri>
alguien aqui que hable español
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<krishna>
hiko_hitokiri, hablo un poquito
10:13
hiko_hitokiri, deseas usar un dvd como repositorio del debian?
10:13
<hiko_hitokiri>
krishna, hola
10:14
no quiero hacer que cuando le doy ltsp-build-client no baje los paquetes de internet
10:14
sino usar mis dvd de debian que de ahi tome los paquetes
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<vagrantc_>
ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///path/a/dvd
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<hiko_hitokiri>
hum
10:16
voy aprovar eso
10:16
muchas gracias vagrantc
10:16
<vagrantc_>
de nada
10:18
<hiko_hitokiri>
vagrantc, el iso que se encuentra en internet se supone que es hecho con una distro de ltsp ya creada anterior mente si funciona o nop
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<vagrantc_>
hiko_hitokiri: lo siento ... no entiendo ...
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<hiko_hitokiri>
hum
10:23
que si has visto que en internet
10:24
dan una iso de ltsp
10:24
segun estava leyendo es una imagen de ltsp casi exacta solo por que le falta un archivo
10:24
el de list.package o algo asi
10:24
<vagrantc_>
ah
10:24
<hiko_hitokiri>
sera que esa iso si funciona
10:25
vagrantc_, de donde eres?
10:25
<vagrantc_>
hiko_hitokiri: los estados unidos
10:26
hiko_hitokiri: es possible crear un CD de LTSP con mi otra proyecto: http://wiki.debian.org/Simple-CDD
10:26
<hiko_hitokiri>
hummmmmm. que bien
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<hiko_hitokiri>
es que la cosa es que . queremos implementarlo aqui en mi pais para las escuelas de bajos recursos
10:28
pero voy empezando en esto del ltsp
10:29
<vagrantc_>
hiko_hitokiri: de donde eres?
10:30
<hiko_hitokiri>
de el salvador
10:31
<Blinny>
How do I make VESA do 1024x768 in 4.2? Mine is ignoring it and defaulting to 800x600
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<vagrantc_>
Blinny: are you sure the hardware can support it?
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<PMantis>
rjune: Been good... class just ended. We had no thin clients for computer class. :(
10:34
tcpdump ran on the server shows activity:
10:34
11:33:45.784804 IP 10.60.1.10.xdmcp > 10.60.1.217.2048: UDP, length 44
10:34
11:33:46.069223 IP 10.60.1.254.2048 > 10.60.1.10.xdmcp: UDP, length 98
10:34
multiple clients keep trying...
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<Blinny>
vagrantc_: I dunno if it can w/ VESA server, but the i810 xserver will go way up.
10:37
I'm trying to use VESA because i810 keeps crashing
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<vagrantc_>
ah.
10:38
Blinny: have you specified a resolution in lts.conf ?
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<ogra>
might be that the old vesa driver was limited to 800x600
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or at least defaulted to it
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<vagrantc_>
Blinny: on my latest tests of debian, i've seen vesa to 1200x1024
10:38
<ogra>
vagrantc_, 4.2
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<vagrantc_>
ah.
10:39
<ogra>
two years old X drivers
10:39* vagrantc_ hides
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<Blinny>
Yeah, old X drivers.
10:39
Yes, specifying X_MODE_0 both with all the modeline info and without
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<vagrantc_>
ogra: i had someone at a party accost me saying that LTSP5 on ubuntu sucks.,
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<ogra>
:P
10:40
<vagrantc_>
ogra: apparently it wouldn't work on their hardware but ltsp 4.2 worked fine.
10:40
<Blinny>
I do see a "MODE: 105 (1024x769) in xorg.log
10:40
<ogra>
which version did they test ?
10:40
<vagrantc_>
i told them to file bug reports
10:40
<ogra>
yeah
10:40
i agree that ltsp5 up to dapper wasnt great
10:41
but from edgy to today its way beyond 4.x
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<vagrantc_>
it did sound like one of those "it just hangs sometimes and i can't reproduce it" sort of bugs.
10:41
but at least in a bug report you could prompt for more specifics about the hardware and such...
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<jammcq>
ogra: in most ways
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<Blinny>
xorg.log also says: "(II) VESA(0): Not using mode '1024x768' (no mode of this name)"
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<ogra>
jammcq, depending on how much you invers in adjusting it in all ways
10:42
*invest
10:42
<jammcq>
LTSP-4.2 still kicks ass in speed and memory requirements
10:42
<ogra>
jammcq, i'm able top make it boot faster than 4.2 ;) and also make it run on lower ram specs
10:43
<vagrantc_>
and will probably continue to do so.
10:43
<ogra>
what i cant change is the CPU reqs
10:43
<jammcq>
but in terms of functionality, LTSP-5 is the way to go
10:43
<vagrantc_>
jammcq: would you say speed and memory are the only things at this point?
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<ogra>
gutsy boots on 28M ....
10:44
<jammcq>
umm, the only meaningful things.
10:44
<ogra>
how low does it need to go to be on par ?
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<ogra>
24 ?
10:44
or does 4.2 boot in 16 ?
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<jammcq>
ogra: well, the thing is, the hardware is getting better all the time, so it's becoming less important to work on older equipment
10:45
ltsp-4.2 can do it in 8mb if you enable swap
10:45
<Blinny>
I thought the whole point was to work on old equipment
10:45
<ogra>
ah, k
10:45
<jammcq>
but it's not a terminal i would want to use
10:45
<vagrantc_>
old is a relative term...
10:45
<ogra>
Blinny, the question is if you want to support 10 year old or 20 year old equipment :)
10:45
<vagrantc_>
i mean, fregeek, which collects "old equipment" doesn't (usually) keep anything slower than 700 MHz anymore.
10:46
<ogra>
wow, really
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<jammcq>
at this point, I'd say anything that could run Win-98 and up makes a dandy thin client
10:46
<ogra>
yeah
10:46
<jammcq>
you really couldn't rin win-98 in less than 64mb I think
10:46
s/rin/run/
10:46
<Blinny>
This is a PIII 833mhz I'm dealing with; it has 384MB
10:46
<jammcq>
should make an awesome thin client
10:46
<Blinny>
(though I have active P1 200mhz machines)
10:46
<ogra>
well, gutsy swaps from initramfs by default if you have less than 48M
10:47
<vagrantc_>
a P-II 300MHz with 64 MB of ram works fine.
10:47
<ogra>
so ram really isnt the main issue anymore
10:47
<Blinny>
Yeah it should, if I could just get the xserver to work correctly. This is the same brand of machines that has given me trouble since day 1.
10:48
Does anyone know how to take the output of xorg.log's Modes and then make an X_MODE_0 in lts.conf ?
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<ogra>
X_MODE_0="1024x768" should suffice even with 4.2, no ?
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<Blinny>
ogra: It should, but it does not.
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<ogra>
beyond that xvidtune is your friend ;)
10:49
<Blinny>
ok I'll try to work something out using that
10:49
Thanks
10:50
<vagrantc_>
Blinny: have you messed with X_VERTREFRESH and X_HORZSYNC ?
10:50
<Blinny>
vagrantc_: Not yet. I was trying out the full X_MODE_0 lines (with all the specifications per syncs) one at a time.
10:51
video modes are not tunable on this chip
10:51
Hrm.
10:51
I'm going to step away. Maybe a little fresh air will give me new ideas.
10:51
<vagrantc_>
Blinny: try LTSP5? :)
10:52
<Blinny>
vagrantc_: I am on a test box. It's not quite that easy when LTSP isn't the only thing on the server.
10:52
(and it's Fedora)
10:52
BBL. Thanks for the pointers.
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<ogra>
"(and it's Fedora)" ... tsk ... thats no excuse to not start implementing it :P
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<vagrantc_>
ogra: plan on making any string changes to debconf in the near future?
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<PMantis>
Guys, I'm stumped... Gray screen on thin clients... now all of them... I can't Xnest from my laptop either. port 177 is listening on the server, and tcpdump on server shows gdm responding to query. Ideas?
10:55
<ogra>
vagrantc_, i dont think i want to touch the udeb every again :P
10:55
<vagrantc_>
heh!
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<ogra>
(do we have any other debfconf ?)
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<vagrantc_>
there's like one other thing in ltsp-client-core
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<ogra>
ah, right
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<vagrantc_>
the "don't install this by hand" warning, basically.
10:57
<ogra>
yeah
10:57
the one that makes the canonical autotest suite fail every time :P
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<vagrantc_>
heh
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<PMantis>
jammcq: buddy, pal ? :-D
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<rjune>
PMantis: why didnt' you have any thin clients/
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<PMantis>
rjune, I can't figure that out for some reason. Noe of the PC's with bootable nics are working this week, but were last week. Gray Screen..
11:00
<rjune>
iptables on the server?
11:00
<PMantis>
rjune, Classic issue, but none of my tests are helping me.
11:00
Crap, BRB
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<vykarian>
hi guys.. is there a related problem about printing delay with lts clients?
11:08
I'm having strange delay (around 20 minutes for file > 20 mb) printing thru lts clients
11:09
already changed the box..
11:09
could be cups? yes.. but when I remove the LTS client and put a print server (URI socket://ip.address.from.station:9100, just like lts client) it works great
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<PManti1>
rjune sorry
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<vagrantc_>
vykarian: how much memory do your thin clients have?
11:13
if they're running out of memory and have to resort to swap, it may take a while...
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<vykarian>
thin clients = 128 and box (some old stuff) all with 256
11:14
think that's difficult.. LOCAL_APPS = N and they only run lp_server and connect to XDMCP
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<vagrantc_>
i would guess 128MB should be enough to not need swap, unless your files are really large.
11:15
<vykarian>
the weird is that sometimes it takes too long even with 2 mb jobs..
11:16
I wondered that it could be something with cups or network, but with print-server it is OK.
11:16
<PManti1>
rjune, no iptables, gdm listening to xdmcp...
11:16
Varies greatly... 16, 128, 256
11:16
Xnest from my laptop won't work either.
11:16
and it has 2GB
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tcpdump shows port 177 traffic replied to by server.
11:17
oh, a ghost
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<PMantis>
rjune, back again.
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<PMantis>
Hmmmmmmm. *ONE* thin client just connected...
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tcpdump just showed me an XDMCP Refuse packet going to my laptop.
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<PMantis>
Hmmm, hosts.allow and hosts.deny are empty, except for comments.
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wiki.ltsp.org own?
11:45
lol s/own/down/
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<vagrantc_>
PMantis: looks down to me.
11:51
<PMantis>
vagrantc_: ?
11:51
<vagrantc_>
09:42 < PMantis> wiki.ltsp.org own?
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<PMantis>
lol, oh.
11:52* PMantis forgot about that, and didn't look up.
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12:13* PMantis has to leave, lab still down. :(
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<lns>
What's up all
12:22
Did you guys see the post about X11 pixmap caching fix that Marc Tardif posted yesterday?
12:22
http://pastebin.ca/733239
12:25
my only question is, what's the script that calls startx with Ubuntu (feisty) LTSP?
12:26
<vagrantc_>
that looks similar (or exactly) like the code that sbalneav added to it
12:28
<lns>
vagrantc_, it very well could be - that's what the other post said after this
12:28
Scott that is.. =)
12:28
<vagrantc_>
if so, it will be included in future versions...
12:29
<lns>
vagrantc_, well if this is a big problem for current ltsp5 installations, what's the script that calls startx?
12:29
I've got a lab of 35 systems that are crashing left and right because of this
12:30
i'd love to throw this code in wherever it needs to be
12:31
<vagrantc_>
well, nobody uses startx
12:31
:)
12:31
<lns>
hehe
12:31
<vagrantc_>
use the LDM script
12:31
/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen* ?
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<lns>
.../screen.d/ ?
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ldm sdm shell startx telnet
12:36
i'm assuming I can put it somewhere in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/ldm ?
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<vagrantc_>
if you use ldm (the default) modify the ldm script ... if you use XDMCP, modify startx
12:37
unless it's broken, you should be able to use /opt/ltsp/i396/etc/ltsp/screen.d/ldm
12:37
<lns>
vagrantc_, thank you... =)
12:37
oh, is that a link?
12:37
<vagrantc_>
/etc/ltsp/screen.d/* should override /usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/*
12:37
<lns>
gotcha
12:37
<vagrantc_>
and should be modifyable by the sysadmin ...
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<vagrantc_>
whereas, if you modify /usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/* then when you upgrade your package, your modifications will be lost
12:38
but at some point it was broken...
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<lns>
vagrantc_, ok... lol i'm glad i know that now! =)
12:39
ty
12:40
vagrantc_, hmm...i don't have an /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/
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<vagrantc_>
lns: so create it
12:40
<lns>
OH
12:40
=p
12:41
vagrantc_, so is the only code I need to throw in the modified code, or do i need to copy the rest from /usr/lib/...
12:41
?
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<vagrantc_>
lns: copy the code from /usr/lib and patch it
12:42
<lns>
ok, ty =)
12:42
<vagrantc_>
but you probably should check and make sure that it actually works.
12:43
<Blinny>
ogra: I'd love to implement LTSP5 in Fedora. I'm a little short on pre-developed skills, however, having never built an RPM.
12:44
<vagrantc_>
lns: grep etc /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen_session
12:44
<lns>
guess the only way to do that is to be onsite, eh? =p
12:44
<cyberorg>
Blinny, vagrantc_ has a good base to start for you guys
12:44
<lns>
vagrantc_, oh nice =)
12:45
<vagrantc_>
there's probably like 20 people who've started on an LTSP5 implementation for fedora.
12:45
myself amoung them
12:45
<cyberorg>
Blinny, it was easier than i thought, i started thinking it would be very difficult as i cannot code a line, but these guys have done all the heavylifting already
12:45
<lns>
vagrantc_, does that if statement execute the /etc/ltsp script inline, or does it exit the current?
12:45
<Blinny>
vagrantc_: I bet. Is there any official project support for the push?
12:45* lns needs to learn more scripting
12:45
<vagrantc_>
Blinny: i've got a bzr branch that you can use... it would get as far as generating a chroot environment and configuring the initramfs for network boot
12:46
lns: sorry, i don't know what you mean...
12:47
<Blinny>
vagrantc_: Are you actively working on it?
12:47
<lns>
vagrantc_, i'm not sure if that 'if' statement that executes /etc/ltsp/screen.d/$ exits itself to call that script, or it executes the /etc/ script in-line with it, that's running
12:47
i apologize for being an idiot when it comes to more-than-basic scripting
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<vagrantc_>
Blinny: being a debian user and ltsp developer (and sort of an ltsp maintainer in debian), i just got the bare-bones beginnings started.
12:48
Blinny: at some point, it takes less time to write the code than explain to people that nobody's done it yet.
12:48
<Blinny>
heh
12:48
<vagrantc_>
but i'm only going to work so hard on a distro i don't actually use
12:48
so hard == not much
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<lns>
so, essentially, i have to copy everything from /usr/lib/ script instead of thinking it'll already be called
12:49
<vagrantc_>
i spent my 4 hours on it, and you can take what i have, and i'll happily answer questions.
12:49
lns: you only need to copy the ones you need to modify, which are only the ones you actually use.
12:49
<Blinny>
vagrantc_: Yeah. ogra had mentioned that there was some mumblings from Eric and Warren Togami about putting together a team. Do you know anything about that?
12:50
<lns>
vagrantc_, ok so the whole ldm script though, not just the modified section, ok
12:50
<vagrantc_>
Blinny: we've been hearing nothing but mumblings since september 2006 when we met with both of them.
12:50
<lns>
thanks..again, sorry =p
12:50
<Blinny>
vagrantc_: heh
12:50* vagrantc_ notes that it's over a year ago
12:51
<Blinny>
vagrantc_: Let me ask Eric if there is any current work that he knows of being done on it.
12:51
<vagrantc_>
Blinny: they supposedly had something working after only a few hours of work, but wouldn't show us.
12:52
<Blinny>
heh
12:52
<vagrantc_>
it really can't be that hard if a debian hack managed to get the hardest parts done in a matter of hours
12:53
<Blinny>
You sound as if these guys are a kind of cowboy. I've never met them.
12:53* vagrantc_ is a share freely and often sort of developer
12:54
<vagrantc_>
i'd rather get feedback that could improve it than have it done perfectly on the first attempt
12:54
<Blinny>
Yeah. I thought that's what this was all about.
12:54
<cyberorg>
vagrantc_, btw, launchpad did not import our svn tree
12:55* vagrantc_ has no love of launchpad
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<cyberorg>
vagrantc_, i have no particular feelings for it either way, i put it up there thinking it would be easier for you guys to access it https://launchpad.net/kiwi-ltsp/trunk
12:56
otherwise it is anyway available here http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/KIWI-LTSP
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<Blinny>
vagrantc_: Where is your bzr branch?
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<joebob777as7_>
ogra you on?
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<vagrantc_>
Blinny: search for: "LTSP5 for Fedora vagrant"
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<Blinny>
heh
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"The squeaky wheel wins"
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<Blinny>
wiki.ltsp.org down :(
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<jammcq>
we've been having internet connectivity problems all day
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<Blinny>
Dig.
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<joebob777as7_>
mouse on thin client isn't working what should i check? i tried ps/2 and usb
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sbalneav, you on?
13:38
anyone on?
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<lns>
joebob777as7, I am...but i'm not sure about your problem ;)
13:40
<joebob777as7_>
sad that's you and google what to do....
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<Blinny>
jammcq: I did find this: http://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=44960&forum=11&post_id=206137
13:42
joebob777as7_: Can you define "isn't working" ?
13:43
<joebob777as7_>
Blinny, doesn't move but the laser is on
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mouse buttons don't register either
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tried two verified working mice...
13:44
keyboard works fine
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<Blinny>
But only in this client?
13:46
<joebob777as7_>
Blinny, well only client i have right now... it was working last time i logged in about a week ago...
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<Blinny>
USB or PS2 mouse?
13:49
<joebob777as7_>
both
13:50
also tried booting to two different chroots
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one i built for this system and another generic
13:53
<Blinny>
What distro / version? Do you have any special parameters in lts.conf?
13:53
<joebob777as7_>
Blinny, edubuntu gutsy no paramaters in lts.conf both mice are wired
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<Blinny>
What does /tmp/XF86Config say in the Mouse section?
13:54
er, XF86Config.1 I think
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<joebob777as7_>
Blinny, on thin client?
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<Blinny>
Yeah. I'm not so hip on LTSP5 but on my 4.2 box the XF86Config is built and is available in the console on the client
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<joebob777as7_>
ok i'm giong to enable console on client and check
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<joebob777as7_>
Blinny, fixed it. i had to create an lts.conf file and it worked fine...
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<Blinny>
joebob777as7_: Good!
14:11
<lns>
All, I posted in forums.ubuntu.org regarding getting VNC over GDM working correctly with LTSP/inetd. Is there somewhere this can be put in the LTSP docs/wiki? I think a lot of people could benefit from it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3489584#post3489584
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<Guaraldo>
jammcq: Hi, Jim...
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jammcq: Do you have a fuse-source package to Debian Etch? Or a ltsp-server-pkg-debian of LTSP 4.2 that doesn't deppend of fuse-source?
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<Guaraldo>
sbalneav: Hi, Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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!s
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<ltspbot>
Guaraldo: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<lns_>
sbalneav, are you here?
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!seen sbalneav
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<ltspbot>
lns_: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 7 hours, 58 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <sbalneav> out of sessions, maybe
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<lns_>
Has anyone had any luck with the Firefox pixmap/X11 crash workaround involving the ldm script and lts.conf? I just implemented the supposed workaround but it doesn't seem to be making any diff... the whole session keeps locking up :(
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reference: http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg32094.html
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ahh crap I think i know what it is.... *hold music*
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ok... this firefox bug needs to be centralized, I had multiple fixes from multiple mailing lists, and the variables are different in some... we gotta centralize =)
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looks like it works well though...firefox crashes, but that's expected - the thin client doesn't lock up now when too many pixmaps are cached on the thin-client.
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<ltspbot>
lns_: lns was last seen in #ltsp 3 hours, 55 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <lns> All, I posted in forums.ubuntu.org regarding getting VNC over GDM working correctly with LTSP/inetd. Is there somewhere this can be put in the LTSP docs/wiki? I think a lot of people could benefit from it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3489584#post3489584
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