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Channel log from 11 March 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<shah>
helooo any person here can help me?
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regarding ltsp
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<shah>
heloooo
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anybody can help me regarding ltsp?
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plssssss
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<plameng1>
hello! I'm on Debian sid with LTSP5 and the client boots fine. I have problem with logon on the client with LDM.
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I did /usr/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys, I also renegerated the keys, and again /usr/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys
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/var/log/auth.log says: Mar 11 13:06:49 nishava sshd[3548]: Accepted password for test1 from 172.24.1.25 port 4375 ssh2
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Mar 11 13:06:49 nishava sshd[3550]: (pam_unix) session opened for user test1 by (uid=0)
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/var/log/daemon.log says: Mar 11 12:38:27 nishava dhcpd: DHCPACK on 172.24.1.25 to 00:01:02:3c:5a:f6 via eth0
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Mar 11 12:38:27 nishava mountd[3116]: authenticated mount request from ws005.ltsp:963 for /opt/ltsp/i386 (/opt/ltsp)
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when I login locally with root, /var/log/ldm.log says: /etc/X11/Xsession: Permission denied
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Did you have the same problem, or any suggestions?
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<shah>
heloooooooom jam
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h r u
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remember meee frm malaysia?
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can ltsp mix with puppy linux pls show me the url?
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<cliebow_>
shah: ltsp should mix with any distro that provides the basic services...dhcp tftp nfs x
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the finer points like localdevs might be tough
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<shah>
emm went i install ltsp core the not reconised
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so what i shoul do?
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<cliebow_>
using ltspadmin?
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<shah>
show me the simple guide
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after install puppy i mix with 3 ltsp
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1 st install ltsp_core
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they never reconise me?
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ehhehe
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so what i must do sirrrr
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<cliebow_>
it is hard to understand you..you should be using ltsp-4.2
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probably
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<shah>
tq sirrrr
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byeee darlingggg opssssssss usssss
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<plameng1>
Sorry for bothering again, I will paste my /var/log/ldm.log
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<ltsppbot>
"plamengr" pasted "Problem with the client log-on LDM, /var/log/ldm.log" (66 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/43
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<lizk12>
I'm running K12Ltsp (Fedora 6). I'd like to connect to the internet with a wireless PCI card (Linksys). How can I get Fedora to recognise the card?
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<cliebow_>
can you get a pci id for it and do a little google?
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hard telling what they used for a chipset otherwise
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<lizk12>
Sorry, it's not Linsys but D-LINK DWL-G520+. Can you help?
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<cliebow_>
lizk12, prob not but will try 8~)
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if in machine lspci -vvv and see which bus it is on..then ldpci -n to get pci id
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lspci -n that is
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<lizk12>
thanks. I'll do it tomorrow. The computer is in the office.
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<cliebow_>
looks like it "just works" in ubun tu
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<lizk12>
Pity. I have Fedora.
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<cliebow_>
should be an atheros chipset
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may come up as ath0 not wlanx or ethx
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several revisions you have to specify as well
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<lizk12>
would it be easier with Conceptronic cards? I have one in another computer.
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<cliebow_>
i am not usre..got an ubuntu live cd to try? any live cd?
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http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.1.0.0.tar.gz
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perhaps..need pci id
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<lizk12>
for D-LINK DWL-G520+ I think is chipset ACX111.
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<cliebow_>
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822 fot rt61(centronic?
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google acx111 fedora..until you get a device id
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<lizk12>
thanks
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<cliebow_>
no prob
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<edgarin>
Hi
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<loca|host>
am reading this guide : http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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and trying to get LTSP5 installed
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i have debian server
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downloaded the edgy ubuntu ltsp server
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got it into my /opt
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and now, thin client says that it doesnt have permissions to mount /opt/ltsp/i386
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default install did /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386/
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so i've rename it to /opt/ltsp/i386
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but now way to get rid of the permission denied problem
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anyone ?
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nfs is running, portmap too
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anyone ?
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<edgarin>
hi jammcq
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<loca|host>
huh ?
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<edgarin>
local|host: probably you have a problems because you need specify the dir of ltsp
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and the default directory for ltsp is the /opt/lts/ubuntu_6.10_i386
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My suggest: Don't change the name of the directory
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<loca|host>
it does not work on the client side
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client shows an error like this :
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mount: 10.10.1.252:/opt/ltsp/i386 failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
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i can do : mount -t nfs 10.10.1.252:/opt/ltsp/i386 /mnt/test on my local laptop with no problem
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<edgarin>
ohhh
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<loca|host>
/etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/exports are fine
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<edgarin>
but.. this error!
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wait..
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In a past time I have this error
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and I fix this problem
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wait a minute..
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but.. if you change the name of the directory to ltsp
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the client have problem??
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<loca|host>
wich directory ?
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http://pastebin.ca/390797
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<edgarin>
ok
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<loca|host>
look to this :
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here's the syslog when i tryed to nfs mount from my laptop successfully :
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Mar 11 18:27:45 lantux01 mountd[6694]: authenticated mount request from ws010.ltsp:776 for /opt/ltsp/i386 (/opt/ltsp)
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and here's when the thin client tryed to do it :
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<edgarin>
the client
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<loca|host>
Mar 11 18:27:45 lantux01 mountd[6694]: authenticated mount request from ws010.ltsp:776 for /opt/ltsp/i386 (/opt/ltsp)
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<edgarin>
are in hosts
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and hosts.allow?
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<loca|host>
ahh sorry, here's it :
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Mar 11 18:05:29 lantux01 mountd[6694]: bad path in mount request from 10.10.1.198: "10.10.1.252:/opt/ltsp/i386"
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<cliebow_>
can you post your root-paath statement..or compare it to mine i posted yesterday
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http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DHCP#quick_post_dhcpd_conf_switching
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see mine does not specify the server ip?
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<jammcq>
cliebow_: hey, you around?
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<cliebow_>
hi!
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<jammcq>
hey
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working on the ppc tarball
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<cliebow_>
Ahh1
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Cool..make any sesne?
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<jammcq>
question about the yaboot stuff, does it really need to go in the root of the /tftpboot directory?
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<cliebow_>
no..
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<jammcq>
or can 'filename' point to it in /tftpboot/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_ppc
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<cliebow_>
i put it in /var/lib/tftpboot/wtf and it worked finme
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<jammcq>
ok, so i've adjusted the entries inside of yaboot.conf, should those be relative to where yaboot exists?
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or relative to tftpd's root?
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<cliebow_>
as long as the two are together.i think
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<jammcq>
no, there's yaboot and yaboot.conf
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those will be in the same dir
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but.... inside of yaboot.conf, is a pathname to the ltsp kernel and initramfs
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how is that pathname constructed?
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<cliebow_>
ummm..i am sure relative to the tftpboot
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<jammcq>
and not relative to yaboot ?
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like this:
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<cliebow_>
i changed nothing in yaboot.conf when i move dit
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<jammcq>
timeout=0
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default=ltsp
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root=/dev/ram
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image=/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_ppc/vmlinux label=ltsp initrd=/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_ppc/initrd.img append="quiet splash"
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<cliebow_>
when i moved yaboot and yaboot.conf
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pretty darn sure it will be fine
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<jammcq>
cool
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I'm expecting lots more people to start playing with ppc, once I post an announcement that the tarball is easily available
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<cliebow_>
that is great you find use for it..
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<jammcq>
I just wish I had a ppc box to play with
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<cliebow_>
with that little change to dhcpd.conf it works auytomagically too
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dont suppose that tangerine imac of Jim ks is around??
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<jammcq>
hmm, it's somewhere
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prolly over at DisklessWorkstations, sitting in the shipping container
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I'll be there on wednesday, i'll take a look for it
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<cliebow_>
i think you might have to put a reservation in for it..it being that old
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there are like 30000 ibooks in Maine schools
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and it would make a very tidy client
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piss poor standalone with 128 meg..but dandy client
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<jammcq>
if I were to search eBay for a very powerful PPC based mac, for doing builds on, what model should I look for?
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not necessarily a laptop
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wasn't the G5 the top of the line cpu on those?
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<cliebow_>
g5 was top of the line..probably over kill
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<jammcq>
yeah, but at this point, even that should be cheap on eBay
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<cliebow_>
yes prob right...the minimac is way cool but it has efi instead of openfirmware and i dont know how to deal with it
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there is very little on google..though i didnt spend scads of time with it
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<jammcq>
the tarball that you created for me... did you actually boot a client with that?
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<cliebow_>
yes
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<jammcq>
but your ssh_known_hosts file was empty, did you clear it out before tarring?
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<cliebow_>
well..that came right off the ibook..i copied it to my Sony and did boot to it
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<jammcq>
or were you using xdmcp ?
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<cliebow_>
i never tried using the ibook as a server
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<jammcq>
was it modified? or stock ubuntu ltsp ?
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<cliebow_>
stock
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<jammcq>
where did you make the tarball from, the ibook or the sony?
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<cliebow_>
ibook
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<jammcq>
ok
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had you modified the xorg.conf file? or was that stock too?
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<cliebow_>
i think it was completely stock
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never tried a boot with it
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<jammcq>
I'm just trying to make sure that someone installing this tarball will have a decent chance of making it work
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<cliebow_>
best maybe if i d/l it first to a clean machine and try ti
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how are you handling dhcpd.conf ?
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<jammcq>
i'm not yet
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<cliebow_>
you have the one i put up?
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<jammcq>
dhcpd.conf is up to the admin to get setup properly. I'll post an example
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I have the file you gave me
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<cliebow_>
i have mine in dhcp on the wiki
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<jammcq>
I'll need to tweak it a bit
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because the tarball will get exploded to /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_ppc
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so the root-path needs to point there
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<cliebow_>
fine..maybe i can get jim k as a guinea pig to try it
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<jammcq>
and the kernels will go to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_ppc
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<cliebow_>
or dtrask
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ahh that would be fine
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<jammcq>
I'll have it up on the LTSP download site within an hour or so
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<cliebow_>
i think i have a cklean machine upstairs..dont know how much tim i will get
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<jammcq>
doesn't really matter if it's clean
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this'll go in a separate directory
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<cliebow_>
we co need to try it against one of the bondis i have at school
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<jammcq>
welp, it'll be there for anyone to test
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<cliebow_>
and maybe Jim k will take it for a spin
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<jammcq>
yep
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<cliebow_>
this is great..makes me feel good to contibute something of substance
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<jammcq>
i'm waiting to see people's reaction to a splash screen showing 'ubuntu' when they've installed the tarball on a fedora machine
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<cliebow_>
HaHa!..i already swiped the background from ubuntu for my redhat server
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<jammcq>
i'm expecting people to ask about that in here
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<cliebow_>
though it is dappers
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not feisty
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we need to upgrade th is ibook to feisty and build a new tarball dont we?
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<jammcq>
we should, yes
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"we" :)
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<cliebow_>
i was about to..but thought id get this piece safe before i try anything dangerous
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<jammcq>
since feisty isn't official yet, it's not that big a deal
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<cliebow_>
ogra saw no problem there..upgrade ppc to feisty..but i think feisty is still a little green isnt it?
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<jammcq>
yes
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i've been using feisty on my laptop for about 2 weeks, and i'm quite happy with it
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I have 2 hard drives that I can swap. I can barely stand to go back to dapper with it
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it just seems so old
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<cliebow_>
i havnt resolved the wireless interface issue in feisty..other than that it is fine
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2..6.17.7 works fine in feisty..2.6.20.9 wireless wont work
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or i cant make it work
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<jammcq>
i'm using 2.6.20-9 and it's working very nicely with wireless
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<cliebow_>
you card comes up as eth1? a wireless card?
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<jammcq>
eth1, yes
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it's an Intel centrino chipset
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works perfectly
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<cliebow_>
mine thinks it is a wired card
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i dont know how to manipulate that
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<loca|host>
here's hey jammcq what's up dude
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i've read your guide http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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i have debian server downloaded the edgy ubuntu ltsp server ,got it into my /opt
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and now, thin client says that it doesnt have permissions to mount /opt/ltsp/i386
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but now way to get rid of the permission denied problem
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nfs is running, portmap too
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<jammcq>
what's in your /etc/exports file?
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<loca|host>
/opt/ltsp 10.10.1.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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/var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 10.10.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,async)
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hosts and hosts.allow are fine too
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<jammcq>
what's your root-path set to in dhcpd.conf ?
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<loca|host>
option root-path "10.10.1.252:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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<jammcq>
you installed from the tarball ?
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<loca|host>
yes
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<jammcq>
then you should have /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386
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instead of /opt/ltsp/i386
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<loca|host>
and now am trying the ltsp-server
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yes got it
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and did the mv /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386 /opt/ltsp/i386
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<jammcq>
ah, don't do that
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makes it harder for us to support you
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if you leave it as ubuntu_6.10_i386, we'll always know that you installed from the tarball
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anyway, on the server, do this: exportfs -ra
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and then try booting the client
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<loca|host>
jammcq, before doing that
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exportfs -ra
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showmount -e
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gives this :
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/opt/ltsp 10.10.1.0/255.255.255.0
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/var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 10.10.1.0/255.255.255.0
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<jammcq>
ok
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<loca|host>
seems to be already exported
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<jammcq>
yeah, but do the exportfs -ra anyway
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you mv'd things, that can caus NFS to report a permission problem
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<loca|host>
did it
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am rebboting the client
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same thing here
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<cliebow_>
localhost..show us your root-path statement..
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<loca|host>
what's that ?
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<cliebow_>
in dhcpd.conf the root=path statement
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<loca|host>
option root-path "10.10.1.252:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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client shows an error like this :
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mount: 10.10.1.252:/opt/ltsp/i386 failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
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i can do : mount -t nfs 10.10.1.252:/opt/ltsp/i386 /mnt/test on my local laptop with no problem
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<jammcq>
try taking out the IP address in your root-path
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I don't think ltsp-5 supports that
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<cliebow_>
there!!!bingo!!
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<loca|host>
letting it : option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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?
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<jammcq>
yep
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<loca|host>
ok
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rebooted the thin client
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<cliebow_>
did you restart dhcp\??
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<loca|host>
offcourse :)
15:56
<cliebow_>
sorry...had to ask
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<loca|host>
no problem :)
15:56
that root-path stuff should be said on the guide
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<cliebow_>
it is new with ltsp5..
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<jammcq>
paste your complete dhcpd.conf file to http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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<cliebow_>
we need a LOT of work
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on docs
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<jammcq>
loca|host: it's a brand new guide on the wiki. yer welcome to help
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<loca|host>
it's ok and working
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<jammcq>
it works?
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<loca|host>
great :)
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<jammcq>
there ya go
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did you get a login screen?
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<loca|host>
yes
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<cliebow_>
ograa helped me with same issue in ppc..
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<loca|host>
wich users it takes ?
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<cliebow_>
his nfs request must add the ip?
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<loca|host>
talking to me ?
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<dem>
jammcq: hey jim, it's milosz
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<jammcq>
dem: hey
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<dem>
just poked my head in here, do you guys have some kind of bleeding edge repository
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<cliebow_>
heh..
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<jammcq>
hmm, it's all bleeding edge :)
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<cliebow_>
bleeding edge??
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<dem>
well trunk
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you know what i mean
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<jammcq>
ogra's got probably the latest stuff
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<dem>
url?
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<jammcq>
he doesn't appear to be around right now
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<cliebow_>
mm.it is so new it has no url
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<loca|host>
so the new ltsp server is authentificating on wich passwd ?
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<cliebow_>
any password in your server sccounts
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<jammcq>
the passwords on the server
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<dem>
okay, well i kind of got bored one day and wrote a small server in python for queueing server stats
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<loca|host>
the hosting server and not of the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/passwd
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?
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<dem>
cause as much as jorge dosen't addmit it, he's hurting with no redundancy
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i wrote in python (even tho it makes my eyes bleed) cause that's what a lot of distros like
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<jammcq>
loca|host: keep in mind, you are logging into the server. your session will be on the server, so you are using the normal user accounts on the server. /etc/passwd by default
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<loca|host>
jammcq, and if i want to install kopete on ltsp ubuntu, i should chroot into /opt/ltsp/i386
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right ?
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<jammcq>
what is kopete ?
16:05* jammcq has heard of it, but can't remember
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<loca|host>
it's like gnome
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a messenger
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:)
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<dem>
jammcq: kde aim/jabber client
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*hint* it starts with a k
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<jammcq>
that would run on the server, not the client
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<loca|host>
wops sorry not gnome, gaim
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<jammcq>
your session is running on the SERVER, that's where your programs belong
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<loca|host>
but my server is debian
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<jammcq>
ok, what's wrong with that?
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<loca|host>
if i've installed skype on the server, i'll get it on ubuntu on the thin client ?
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<cliebow_>
jammcq:that ssh key thing bothers me..if you have a server with both tarballs and run ltsp-uodate-ssh-keys (or whatever) which chroot is updated??
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<jammcq>
loca|host: skype is a voip program. doesn't work so well with ltsp
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<loca|host>
jammcq, i've said skype, it's not that the problem, how to install programs on the server side and get them on the client side
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<jammcq>
cliebow_: ALL chroot's get updated
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loca|host: i think what you are trying to get at is something we call "local apps"
16:09
it's not supported in ltsp-5 yet
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and it's poorly supported in ltsp-4.2
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ltsp is primarily an operating system that gives a thin client the ability to boot, and give you a session on the server
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<erdinc>
hi everyone
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<jamie_>
Im testing feisty and it appears they have changed the way the /dev file systems works. Getting this error message on install of ltsp anyone help?
18:18
Adding `diversion of /etc/mtab to /etc/mtab.real by ltsp-client'
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`/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'
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ln: creating symbolic link `/dev/fd' to `/proc/self/fd': File exists
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error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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<cliebow_>
jamie_:yes there is a prob lem there..ogra had to rewrite a piece hang by
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i should have it on other lappie
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something screwy leaked in there...il be a few minutes
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<jamie_>
thanks mate thanks
18:39
<ltsppbot>
"cliebow" pasted "amended file for /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/010-mount-proc" (22 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/44
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<cliebow_>
jamie_, this paste is what i di fot he prob
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bUT.be sure to throw out your old /opt/ltsp/i486 so you install to clean target
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lemme know that it works 8~)
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<jamie_>
one tick then
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<cliebow_>
i386 then
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<jamie_>
Just build client should not be long. Cheers
18:49
<cliebow>
jamie_:got it?
18:49
Cheers from Maine by the way..
18:49
<mistik1>
Cheers from Georgia ;)
18:50
<cliebow>
8~)
18:52* mistik1 had the Barbi going today ;)
18:52
<cliebow>
Barbi??
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<mistik1>
BBQ
18:53
<cliebow>
AHHH! Cool! it was nice here as well.my wife got the throw up bug so i been tending her
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<mistik1>
Its pretty much late sping out here
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spring even
18:53
<cliebow>
must be lovely..melted a lot of snow today
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<mistik1>
*shudder*
18:54
<cliebow>
enough to know i need to get the pooer scooper out..in spades
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<mistik1>
lol
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hahaha, i've soo been there
18:54
<cliebow>
it was 45 or so..not bad for Maine
18:54
<mistik1>
Not bad at all
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<cliebow>
in March
18:56
you working on your own distro these days..or fighting with gentoo?
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i had a chance to dig into muekow/feisty a little..thanks to ogra
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the whole buid-client is pretty elegant..
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<mistik1>
I am using gentoo to develope a little OS, yes
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However its never a fight with Gentoo ;)
18:58
<jamie_>
still got the same message. That paste was to edit file /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/010-mount-proc right
18:59
<cliebow>
Balls..it was..that fixed me right up...you compared what i had commented out so we are sure you are on the same page?
19:00
perms on that file still 644 ?
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<jamie_>
yes
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<cliebow_>
and you threw out the old /opt/ltsp/i386 i know
19:13
<jamie_>
yes hang on 1 min
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<cliebow_>
k
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<jamie_>
I think its worked now changed chmod 777 worked I think
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<cliebow_>
ifd it got by that point you should be golden
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<jamie_>
yea Its worked thanks mate.
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I could almost say I love you
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<cliebow_>
ny me a Foster's sometime..better yet..buy ogra one
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<jamie_>
are you in england?
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<cliebow_>
you now know most wverything i know BOUT ltsp5..i am in MAINE Usa
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YOU?
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<jamie_>
Im in Whitehave Cumbia England!
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<cliebow_>
someday ill look you up..i was in england 2 springs ago.had a nlast..
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<jamie_>
The Lakes
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<cliebow_>
blast that is..soccer finals were on so the pubs were full
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<jamie_>
Were did you stay?
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<cliebow_>
we stayrd in london and did bus trips to the obvious tourist sites
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<cliebow_>
like to go next to yorkshire dales
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<jamie_>
Ah I was born in Greenwhich London.
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You should look up the lake district
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<cliebow_>
thank ograa for the patch while he is here
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just like northwest ofd london right?
19:21
<jamie_>
Thanks Ogra for the patch on Ltsp on feisty was pulling my hear out?
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<cliebow_>
8~)
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<jamie_>
No No. Its gods country on the borders of scotland but in england. Near carlisle. Lots of lakes
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<cliebow_>
i will most certainly will..
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<jamie_>
Were is MAINE
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have a look here http://www.visitcumbria.com/landscap.htm
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<cliebow_>
north of Boston..acadia national park
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cool
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wow..stone circles
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fascinated by them
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<jamie_>
Ah Ive been to Boston, New York caneditcate, LA, Califonia, Navada.++++ Sorry bout the spelling.
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<cliebow_>
no prob..i was b orn in cONnecticut
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god that is lovely..a lot like Maine
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<jamie_>
God Im at work in 3 hours and had no sleep yet. This Computer is bad for my health.!!!!!!
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<cliebow_>
heh..school?
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<jamie_>
What do you mean?
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<cliebow_>
work at a school?
19:36
<jamie_>
I dont no. I work in sales.
19:36
<cliebow_>
oooh i see Carlisle..not far from the ocean..
19:36
<jamie_>
I live in moor row even closer mate
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<cliebow_>
Whitehaven
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<jamie_>
Moor Row is just bout 5 miles from whitehaven little village. Very nice place
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<cliebow_>
ill remember that got a pub?
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up toeards workington.
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<jamie_>
yea you been be for?
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<cliebow_>
no sad to say...just llooking at maps
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<jamie_>
lots of pubs in england 24h drinking now in most places
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<cliebow_>
just a couple beers and soccer on the telly do me just fine
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<jamie_>
me to i got 3 young kids. No football for me Just ubuntu and internet
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I will chatch you again some time I off now. Thanks for your help!!! Have a Nice Day
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<cliebow_>
i see the Jasmine house
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see ya
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<jamie_>
Gives a shout if you ever come jamie@usjacksons.co.uk it's fine
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bye bye
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<caju>
how can install printer "hplaser 1018" on client?
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hi
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hi everybody
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