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Channel log from 4 June 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<daya>
ogra, hi
00:40
ogra, I want to modify the login banner that is presented to the host client , where can I found that particular image,
00:43
clear
00:43
ls
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sorry for mistype, as clear and ls
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<Barni>
hi all
02:53
i need help
02:54
i have a terminal and I want to make to be possible to change keyboard layout format
02:54
and it impossible
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<vagrantc>
what have you tried?
02:55
<Barni>
setxkbmap hu Error loading new keyboard description
02:56
is the same error fo us
02:57
and i have installed the LookXP and it's unable to change the keyboard layout
02:57
just en English (USA) is working
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<Barni>
pls help me out
02:57
<vagrantc>
no idea
02:58
<Barni>
oh no... pls
02:58
what can i try, it could be permission problem?
02:58
or what ???
02:59
<vagrantc>
well, seeing as i use a us keymap, which is usually the default, i've never had to mess with the issue personally, so i really don't have much experience with it.
03:00
Barni: however, there are other people in this channel, so be patient.
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<vagrantc>
the more impatient someone is, the less likely people are going to want to help.
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<Barni>
ok, i'm waiting ...
03:02
<daya>
vagrantc, hi sir
03:02
<vagrantc>
daya: no need to be so formal :P
03:02
<daya>
vagrantc, how can I manage the login banner,
03:03
vagrantc, no just ,
03:04
vagrantc, I mean how to change the login greeiting in the client system,
03:04
<vagrantc>
daya: what do you mean by greeting ?
03:04
daya: the login screen ?
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<daya>
vagrantc, yes
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<vagrantc>
daya: look in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes
03:10
<daya>
vagrantc, do I need to install cups in /opt/ltsp/i386 for printer, or something,
03:10
<vagrantc>
daya: add your own theme to that directory ... and use update-alternatives to update /etc/alternatives/ldm-theme
03:10
daya: this is debian sid ?
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<daya>
vagrantc, no etch
03:11
<vagrantc>
daya: you'll have to configure it all manually at the moment.
03:12
daya: should have a backport of the newer ltsp for etch in a few wees
03:12
weeks
03:18
<daya>
vagrantc, you mean for printer or themes manual configuratin
03:19
<vagrantc>
daya: there is no support for printers in etch.
03:20
<daya>
vagrantc, ye,
03:20
<vagrantc>
daya: you can configure your own themes as described above.
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<daya>
vagrantc, is there any way that u can do to manage printer in etch for ltsp 5.0
04:34
<vagrantc>
daya: you can install and configure any package available in debian.
04:34
daya: but there are no instructions for doing so at this point.
04:35
<daya>
vagrantc, if I go LTSP 4.2 and etch , does it support printer
04:35
?
04:35
<vagrantc>
daya: search on wiki.ltsp.org
04:35
<daya>
vagrantc, since we are going to implement it in remote schools, printer and sound are most essential for us,
04:36
<vagrantc>
daya: have you gotten sound working?
04:36
<daya>
vagrantc, no I am still facing trouble, any audio played in clinet gets heard in server,
04:37
vagrantc, I have done almost everything u guys instruct me,
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<vagrantc>
unfortunately, i am unable to actually set up a real ltsp environment to test on, or i'd try it out and fix it
04:39
in a few days, i should have a backport ready, which should be easier to set up the way ubuntu does it (pulseaudio + alsa)
04:39
and it will also have the same printer support ubuntu has
04:39
<daya>
vagrantc, ok
04:39
<vagrantc>
but i still won't be able to test it
04:39
<daya>
vagrantc, and best of luck,
04:39
<vagrantc>
and a few days may turn into a few weeks
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<daya>
wish u al best
04:40
<vagrantc>
daya: same to you
04:41
daya: so what are you going to try ?
04:44
daya: actually, you could grab the packages from debian-edu ... they should have printer support
04:46
daya: though struggling with sound support is going to be no better.
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<vagrantc>
daya: if you want the debian-edu packages, they can be found here: ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/pool/local/l/ltsp
04:52
daya: most recent version is 0.99debian12+0.0.edu.etch.4
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daya: but you'll also need to tell it to use those packages when building the LTSP chroot
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<Envite>
h
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<cliebow_>
o
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<vagrantc>
l
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<Envite>
gimme an "a", please
05:06* vagrantc claps
05:06
<cliebow_>
a
05:07
<Envite>
¡Hola a todos desde España!
05:07
Hello all from Spain!
05:07
<cliebow_>
ignoraance is bliss..and i am very happy..
05:08
<Envite>
hey, I've just installed a LTSP/Xen system
05:08
<vagrantc>
Envite: reaally?
05:09
<Envite>
I want to start using it in real classroom work to write a well-founded report
05:09
vagrantc: yes
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<vagrantc>
Envite: just the server?
05:09
<Envite>
ltsp itself in a xen machine, home directories in another xen machine, and desktops in a third xen machine, all over the same iron machine
05:10
<vagrantc>
nice
05:11
Envite: still haven't jumped on the LTSP 5.0 bandwagon, i suppose ...
05:17
<cliebow_>
we need to jump to ltsp certificaation..or at least a course..
05:18
<vagrantc>
maybe so.
05:18
though we also need to make things "just work" better.
05:18
i wish i would have had more time to get sound working in debian
05:19
sound, local devices ...
05:19
<cliebow_>
sound and sound..and sound...
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<Envite>
vagrantc: you suposse well
05:19
<cliebow_>
it is so dicey in 4.2..it works..but the delay really botheres stuff like united streaming
05:19
<daya>
vagrantc, ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/pool/local/l/ltsp doesn't have anythng
05:20
<Envite>
we're using Kiosk mode to get sound wotking in KDE
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<vagrantc>
daya: try: http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/pool/local/l/ltsp/
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daya: i don't know why, but sometimes it shows empty. i have this problem too.
05:22
<daya>
vagrantc, yes I found in 2nd link,
05:34
vagrantc, I also have flickering problem in client
05:35
<vagrantc>
daya: like the screen flickers?
05:35
<daya>
vagrantc, yes,
05:35
<vagrantc>
daya: and it only flickers when you run LTSP ?
05:35
<daya>
vagrantc, but only on login screen,
05:35
<vagrantc>
daya: when you login it's fine?
05:36
<daya>
vagrantc,yes when I change the resolution
05:36
<vagrantc>
daya: how do you change the resolution?
05:36
<daya>
vagrantc, by the gnome utilities,
05:36
vagrantc, change the resolution,
05:36
<vagrantc>
daya: you change it from what to what ?
05:37
<daya>
vagrantc, :D, I change the screen resolution in clent after I get login into it,
05:37
<vagrantc>
daya: yes, i understand that ....
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<daya>
1024 to 640
05:38
but interesting
05:38
when I go back to 1024 its also work fine,
05:38
but as soon as I logout, I flickrs in login window,
05:39
I-->it
05:39
vagrantc, the link consists of a lot of packages which packages should I use,
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<vagrantc>
well, you can mess with X_HORZSYNC, X_VERTREFRESH, X_MODE_0, X_MODE_1, etc ...
05:40
daya: i told you the version
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<daya>
oh, :sorry,
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<vagrantc>
daya: though you should be fine just grabbing the newest ltsp-client package
05:41
well, you can mess with X_HORZSYNC, X_VERTREFRESH, X_MODE_0, X_MODE_1, etc ... in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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<vagrantc>
daya: if it's screen flickering, you probably have to tweak X_HORZSYNC and/or X_VERTREFRESH
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05:49* vagrantc figures out why the ltsp progress bar stuff wasn't working
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<cliebow_>
cool!
06:00
<vagrantc>
that doesn't guarantee i figure out how to fix it
06:01
<cliebow_>
you haave the power..
06:01
<vagrantc>
well, we always knew why it wasn't working ... the vast majority of the time is spent on a single command
06:02
but my latests attempts to improve it ... i just figured out why that wasn't working ...
06:02
<cliebow_>
that in c?
06:03
<vagrantc>
don't know yet.
06:05
it's the "in-target" debian-installer script ... it grabs all the output of whatever command you run it in ... which makes hard to parse the output of the command :)
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<daya>
+
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<Barni>
hi all
06:42
i need help
06:42
i have Look-Xp installed and how it's possible to design it?
06:42
to create icons and so and so???
06:43
to change porgram icon?
06:43
on the icons no right mouse possibility ...
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<Barni>
where and how can I disable the GNOME, KDE, at LTSP login to be just KDE session???
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<vagrantc>
Barni: what distro?
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<Barni>
FC6
07:24
<vagrantc>
no idea.
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<Barni>
and who know
07:26
?
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<str4nd__>
Barni: ogra
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<vagrantc>
str4nd: uh, no.
07:28
at least, unless ogra secretly has some FC6 know-how.
07:28
<str4nd>
:o
07:29
<Barni>
what is ogra?
07:29
<vagrantc>
ogra probably knows ubuntu better than most...
07:29
<Barni>
but i have fedora
07:30
<vagrantc>
which is why ogra wouldn't be a good person to recommend how to fix your problem.
07:36
<ogra>
heh, right :)
07:36
Barni, in ubuntu and debian we can easily define te default system session, dont you have a way in fedors to do that as well ?
07:36
*fedora
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<vagrantc>
Barni: you should probably ask in a fedora irc channel ... it's nothing LTSP specific
07:42
ogra: been struggling to improve the progress bar in ltsp-client-builder ... but no luck.
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<vagrantc>
ogra: i think i figured out something that would work, except "in-target" steals all of ltsp-build-client's output
07:44
<ogra>
vagrantc, its pretty tricky but should be doable i'll look up th eother installer code
07:44
yeah
07:45
you have to create a fifo and redirect the in-target output
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07:47* vagrantc tries with chroot /target instead of in-target
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<vagrantc>
then i can at least figure out if my idea works ...
07:47
<ogra>
dont do that
07:47
ah, k
07:47
<vagrantc>
well, i wouldn't commit it :P
07:47
<ogra>
but its not proper for the installer
07:47
<rafaelcardoso>
hi people, I have a little trouble with mouse sensitivity, mouse with 1200 dpi, its very fast, how to slow it?
07:48
using rdesktop script
07:48
<vagrantc>
ogra: yes, i'm well aware of how improper and hackish it is :)
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<jammcq>
g'morning
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<vagrantc>
quick, hide!
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<ogra>
!j
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<ltspbot>
ogra: Error: "j" is not a valid command.
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<ogra>
:)
07:49
<jammcq>
yeah, story of my life :)
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<ogra>
vagrantc, Bug #395145 smels like a race condition with your udev, the link up message is from mii tool afaik
08:21
that would at least explain why ubuntu users dont seem to see it
08:21* vagrantc has never seen it on debian either
08:24
<vagrantc>
it seems like it magically went away for the original reporter, and then all of the sudden this other problem came along (the one i finally got a fix in initramfs-tools for)
08:24
<ogra>
yep
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<lambda_>
Hi everybody when I try to start my thin client through Ethernet port logs say me DHCP ...... PXE-E53 no boot rom received
09:21
Exiting PXE-ROM
09:21
and grub splah boot appear :(
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<lambda_>
any help will be VERY thanksfull
09:26
thanksful sorry
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<Guaraldo>
lambda_: Is this a PXE client or a EtherBoot client?
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<lambda_>
PXE
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<jammcq>
ogra: ping
09:39
<ogra>
jammcq, pong
09:40
<jammcq>
ogra: in your testing of the Xorg7.3, did you happen to notice if the chipset for the 1220 was auto-detected ?
09:42
<ogra>
nope it was still vesa
09:42
the e2300 was autodetected and the 150 and 170 as well
09:42
i think you will still need a working driver for it first ;)
09:43
(it wont associate with via since the driver doesnt support the chip)
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<ogra>
jammcq, i'll care for the openchrome driver to be at least in universe for gutsy, so we can have a howto
09:45
<lambda_>
Guaraldo, no idea ? :)
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<jammcq>
ogra: is openchrome in universe for Feisty?
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<Guaraldo>
lambda_: Is the path to kernel correct in the DHCP config file?
09:47
<ogra>
jammcq, nope
09:48
its not packaged at all
09:48
there is a nice howto but its about compiling the cvs version manually
09:48
<jammcq>
ah
09:48
<ogra>
(which you would have to do inside the chroot )
09:48
<jammcq>
but at least it's possible
09:49
<ogra>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
09:49
i run it on the feisty chroot with that driver
09:49
its not significantly faster than vesa, but gives you stuff like xv support etc
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<lambda]>
nickserv identify <assy>
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lol
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<ogra>
i guess its time to change your password :)
09:51
<lambda]>
ogra :)
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<lambda]>
can I paste a little trunk of my dhcpd.conf ?
09:54
<cliebow>
lambda], use the pastebot
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<lambda]>
6 lines ?
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<ogra>
to the pastebot
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!pastebot
09:54
<ltspbot>
ogra: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
09:56
<Blinny>
jammcq: Any known problems w/ video on those 1225's? I received & fired my tester up today and all videos are a dark green, through both mplayer and totem.
09:56
<ogra>
Blinny, thats because you are missing xv support with the vesa driver
09:56
try x11 or sdl for the output
09:57
or follow the guide i just pasted above to compile the driver inside the chroot
09:57
(if you use ltsp5 indeed)
09:58
<ltsppbot>
"lambda]" pasted "no PXE boot for thin client :( --> DHCP.CONF" (28 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/168
09:59
<lambda]>
server is an debian-edu etch-rc1 release
09:59
<ogra>
lambda], how does your tftp line in the inetd.conf file look like ?
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<lambda]>
tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
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--tftpd-timeout 300 --retry-timeout 5 --no-multicast --maxthread 100 --ve
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rbose=5 /var/lib/tftpboot
10:00
<Blinny>
ogra: I believe I'm using the special via server as per the docs
10:01
<jammcq>
Blinny: what version of LTSP ?
10:01
<Blinny>
via;openchrome
10:01
jammcq: 4.2
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<jammcq>
Blinny: are you certain that the driver is actually being used?
10:01
<ogra>
i didnt know there was opechrome for 4.2
10:01
<jammcq>
can you set SCREEN_02 = shell
10:01
<Blinny>
It looks prettier than vesa
10:01
<jammcq>
reboot the terminal and take a look at the XF86Config file ?
10:01
<Blinny>
jammcq: Yes.
10:02
<jammcq>
I need to leave in a couple minutes
10:02
<Blinny>
I'll try to be quick.
10:02
<jammcq>
but you'll wanna look at the config file
10:02
<Blinny>
Right
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<ltsppbot>
"lambda" pasted "inetd.conf" (5 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/169
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<Blinny>
Yeah the log lines say 'VIA'
10:03
<jammcq>
ok
10:03
<Blinny>
This is K12ltspv6
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<jammcq>
umm, etyack is telling me that you may need to pass a parameter to mplayer when you start it up
10:04
<Blinny>
-xv ?
10:04
<jammcq>
which ltsp kernel is that?
10:04
<ogra>
Blinny, rather -vo xv :)
10:04
<puetz>
Hi people, could you please give me short heads up: I had some custom screen.d/ files that started e.g. rdesktop locally on the client. Now I want/need to switch to ltsp5.0 and I'm at a loss
10:04
<ogra>
but that should be the default anyway unless redhat does somehing weird
10:05
<puetz>
how do I go about not starting ldm or sdm but only a single x session with one app in it, no windowmanager
10:05
<ogra>
puetz, locally ?
10:05
<Blinny>
Kernel is 2.6.17.9-ltsp-1
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<puetz>
yes
10:06
I just need that one app running in it's own X-server
10:06
<ltsppbot>
"lambda" pasted "No time to debug ? :)" (5 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/170
10:06
<Blinny>
ogra: Is there a 'default flags' for mplayer or totem that will print their defaults?
10:06
<ogra>
puetz, you could write something into rc.local
10:06
<puetz>
uh, how is that then being referenced by lts.conf?
10:06
<jammcq>
Blinny: I put an updated kernel 2.6.20 in the ltsp repository on friday
10:06
<ogra>
Blinny, i dont know, sorry, but by defualt mplayer tries xv afaik
10:06
<Blinny>
~/.mplayer/gui.conf reads vo_driver = "xv"
10:06
<jammcq>
you might try running ltspadmin and seeing if it shows the updated kernel
10:07
<ogra>
puetz, RC_FILE iirc, look in the parameter doc
10:07
<Blinny>
jammcq: Does that kernel change affect this xserver?
10:07
<puetz>
before, I had e.g. SCREEN_01=rdesktop in lts.conf and that started the stuff in screen.d which then started rdesktop.wrapper
10:07
<Blinny>
jammcq: Historically I've just used kernels when Eric puts them in the k12 repo
10:07
<puetz>
ogra, thx, will do now
10:07
<ogra>
puetz, well, it should still work the same
10:08
we use most of the 4.2 screen.d scripts
10:08
<puetz>
no, 4.2 used XF86CONFIG.1 in /tmp/ and the new one uses xorg.conf in /etc/X11...
10:08
<ogra>
any probs with that ?
10:08
you talked about the screen scripts, not about the X server config
10:09
<puetz>
it simply didn't start, I guess the x-prepare thingies didn't start or somethign...
10:09
<ogra>
just copy your script to /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/
10:09
there is no such thing
10:09
<puetz>
I did. didn't work
10:09
<ogra>
the xserver gets configured from the ltsp-client-setup script
10:09
which is run as the first thing in the bootprocess after the modules were loaded
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<puetz>
before, if I see it correctly, every screen.d/ script generated it's on XF86CONFIG.1 script and used that to start the xserver
10:10
<ogra>
so at the point you are starting your screen script X is configured since ages
10:10
i dont think so
10:10
<puetz>
one sec
10:11
<ogra>
are yu sure you did install rdesktop in the chroot ?
10:11
<puetz>
yes
10:11
in the old 4.2 screen.d/rdesktop script I had this: XFCFG=/tmp/XF86Config.${TTY}
10:11
# Setup the XF86Config file
10:11
#
10:11
XSERVER=${XSERVER:-"auto"}
10:11
<ogra>
yes, that points to the default config
10:11
<puetz>
...
10:11
and so on
10:12
<ogra>
but doesnt generate anything
10:12
<Blinny>
mplayer does do xv but complains that 'Shared memory not supported. Reverting to normal Xv'
10:12
<puetz>
XSERVER=`/sbin/pci_scan /etc/vidlist`
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10:12
<ogra>
puetz, dont fiddle with the x server it has nothing to do with your problem
10:12
<puetz>
# Build the XF86Config file from entries in the lts.conf file
10:12
that was all in the old rdesktop file in screen.d
10:13
<ogra>
yes, all that isnt needed anyore
10:13
<puetz>
and worked like a charm since I need multiple xservers with one app each
10:13
<ogra>
you should be able to just start an amount of X servers you like with the autogenerated xorg.conf as well ...
10:13
<puetz>
for security (and simplicity) reasons I only started a xserver with one app in it
10:14
<ogra>
s/an/any/
10:14
<puetz>
yes, but I would have to re-work the rdesktop script massively
10:14
I tried exchanging the #XFCFG=/tmp/XF86Config.${TTY} -> XFCFG=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
10:14
didn't work
10:15
long story short: there are no more screen.d/ files except the ldm and sdm in current ltsp 5.0 (I used ubuntu 7.04)?
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10:16
<ogra>
well
10:16
ogra@laptop:~$ ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/ |wc -l
10:16
5
10:16
for me there are more
10:16
<puetz>
ok, I had only sdm and ldm IIRC
10:16
copied over the old ones now...
10:16
<ogra>
and if you tae the startx script and just put a call to rdesktop at the bottom it should simply work
10:16
<puetz>
yes, right!
10:17
I think that's the one I tweaked in the beginning!
10:17
thanks! I'll give this a try
10:17
<ogra>
apart from that i think Gadi hastweaked his rdesktop 4.2 scripts for ltsp5
10:17
*has tweaked
10:17
try to catch him here
10:18
he can surely give you some working script if your weak doesnt work
10:18
*tweak
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<puetz>
I'll look at the startx script, thought that was the one from 4.2...
10:18
thx again!
10:19
<ogra>
no, it has some extra code in it for the ubuntu- x detection
10:19
actually the old cruft could go from that script ...
10:19
especially the Xfee86 crap we dont use anyway :)
10:19* ogra makes a note to clean that up for gutsy
10:19
<ogra>
<- break
10:20
<Blinny>
Oh grand.
10:20
mplayer works the first time on the video with '-vo xv' but subsequent ones are back to green screen & 'shared memory not supported - reverting to normal Xv'
10:24
<puetz>
Blinny, didn't follow completely, but when you do df , does it say /dev/shm there somewhere?
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<Blinny>
puetz: Yes, I have /dev/shm on my server.
10:29
<puetz>
Blinny, the kernel has not much to do with xv output, the X driver for that card has to support XVideo. Older cards like e.g. s3virge don't have a large enough XV screen size
10:29
how large is that /dev/shm?
10:29
df -h please :)
10:30
<ltsppbot>
"lambda]" pasted "debian-edu WRONG dhcp.conf default file" (19 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/171
10:31
<Blinny>
puetz: 4gigs
10:31
<puetz>
hui!
10:31
that's a lot!
10:31
<Blinny>
puetz: Yes. I had a lot to play with when setting up this box.
10:32
<puetz>
either you have started something that uses all that space (not that probable) or that isn't the reason :)
10:32
<Blinny>
puetz: Something tells me that isn't the reason.
10:32
puetz: Used: 0
10:32
<puetz>
:)
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<puetz>
did you look through the xorg.0.log? In there (in all that crappy output) there should be something written about the shared mem IIRC
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<Blinny>
puetz: I don't see anything about shared memory. I see videoram=32768 (which is weird b/c it's specifically set in the lts.conf file to be 16m)
10:43
<puetz>
Blinny, damn, at home I have an old s3virge card which I wanted to use in addition to the nvidia agp card and that said something about the shared mem size or at least the xv size it could use. There it was pretty useless, it was 36x1024 or so, totally weird
10:44
Blinny, I dunno the whole story, but with -vo x11 -zoom you get something similar, except the cpu has to do all the scaling...
10:47
Blinny, you read about part 3. in http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart1.shtml ? Maybe that's what you see?
10:47
Blinny, wait, meant "3. A few words about the SiS 760 (all versions)"
10:49
<Blinny>
puetz: Thanks. I don't believe I'm using an SiS chipset.
10:50
<puetz>
Blinny, huh, sorry, thought I had read that above!
10:50
Blinny, you said via above, misread
10:50
<Blinny>
puetz: No worries. (:
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<s34n>
did LTSP make it into Fedora 7?
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<cliebow>
anyone fell like helping me contqact a managed switch via serial cable?
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12:04
<Blinny>
s34n: No. But k12ltsp.org will help you
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12:22* kaminski-ltsp-br is away: ugh!
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<Blinny>
Okay. Here's more info about the mplayer/totem green screen w/ video
12:26
the videos play perfectly until firefox opens
12:26
thereafter, even after closing firefox, they are just green screens
12:27
brb lemme confirm
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<Blinny>
grr
12:33
Ah hA!
12:33
It's not firefox.. mplayer won't play them after totem opens
12:35
mplayer won't play _any_ movie after totem opens -- only get green screen and sound
12:35
I guess the obvious answer is to get rid of totem
12:36
but it's still odd behavior for a terminal
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<Blinny>
Weird weird weird.
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<crashover>
hello
13:11
i have a big urgent problem with my NX
13:11
anyone can help me
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<crashover>
anyone please
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<cliebow>
crashover, give us the 5 second synopsis..
13:40
<vagrantc>
cliebow: it's big and urgent
13:40
<crashover>
=(
13:41
i have a server stopped..
13:41
<cliebow>
ok 10 second
13:41
<crashover>
and I am newbie in Linux
13:41
<cliebow>
what you got?
13:41
<crashover>
I have a LTSP installend in my work
13:42
and i have terminal with floppy boot
13:42
with room
13:42
that access the server
13:42
I'm brazilian man...then I can write a Little wrong
13:42
and I have remote terminal a long distance for ADSL
13:43
that use NX Nomachine to connect in my server for work
13:43
in this morning the long distance user's don't connect
13:44
and i think that be the Adsl link
13:44
but i see thats any problem in server
13:44
but when i try to connect with the user and password of they in my Computer with Nx Nomachine
13:44
<cliebow>
you see no problem on the server..
13:44
<crashover>
i connect and work
13:45
when the long distances user try to connect the Nx give-me this message
13:45
<cliebow>
Guaraldo, you are Breazilian right?
13:46
<crashover>
Server no installed or NX Access disable
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<crashover>
=(
13:47
<cliebow>
crashover, you know there is an nx channel here..can you ping your server from outside
13:47
<crashover>
i dont try yet
13:47
i go try
13:47
just a moment
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<crashover>
man
13:52
ping its ok
13:52
receive the packages
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<Guaraldo>
cliebow Yep...
14:07
cliebow: I'm Brazilian...
14:07
<vagrantc>
crashover: there's also #ltsp-br i think
14:08
<Guaraldo>
Let crashover with me... :-D I'll try to help him...
14:08
<vagrantc>
that's the spirit :)
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<jfrancis>
Hello. Anyone have any success setting up two usb printers (jetdirect 9100 and 9101)?
14:11
<cliebow>
Guaraldo, good man!
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<joebaker>
Guaraldo: I read crashover's comments earlier. I wonder if portforwarding of ssh has dropped from his firewall to the LTSP server? telnet hostname 22 should be able to diagnose it reasonably so.
14:38
<Guaraldo>
joebaker: thanks... Its a good idea...
14:39
<joebaker>
guaraldo: No problem. I sure would like to see nxclient integrated into lts.conf. The suspended feature of NoMachine is quite nice. The applications keep running.
14:40
<Guaraldo>
joebaker: Yep... Its very nice...
14:43
<Alexandre>
There is a good totorial of LTSP 5.0, when i install i have some problems in X of thin clients!!!!
14:44
<vagrantc>
Alexandre: what linux distro?
14:44
<Alexandre>
vagrantc: Ubuntu
14:44
<vagrantc>
!ubuntu
14:44
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "ubuntu" is a Debian based GNU/Linux distrubution that includes a Ubuntu specific version of LTSP. It can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org. to install ltsp on ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
14:48
<jfrancis>
Hello. Anyone have any success setting up two usb printers (jetdirect 9100 and 9101)?
14:48
<vagrantc>
jfrancis: you get one working first?
14:49
<jfrancis>
Yes, both printers work on 9100 if I interchange, but 9101 doesn't work right.
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<Gadi>
jfrancis: which version of ltsp?
14:51* vagrantc is thankful for the existance of Gadi
14:52
<Gadi>
never question the existence of Gadi ;)
14:53
<cliebow>
i second that..
14:53
<jfrancis>
4.2 - i know, i need to upgrade :)
14:53
<vagrantc>
Gadi: i might start questioning... it's been what, since september now?
14:53
<Gadi>
jfrancis: not at all
14:54
are they both USB?
14:54
<jfrancis>
yes
14:54
<cliebow>
4.2 is awesome..just a little "cha;l;enged in places
14:54
<Gadi>
have you tried specifying the printer device
14:54
<jfrancis>
gotcha
14:55
<Gadi>
ie: PRINTER_0_DEVICE="/dev/usb/lp0", PRINTER_1_DEVICE = "/dev/usb/lp1"
14:56
<jfrancis>
mine look just like that
14:56
<Gadi>
have you dropped into a shell to see if two processes are running?
14:56
<jfrancis>
[whse001]
14:56
X_MODE_0 = 1024x768
14:56
PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0
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PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
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PRINTER_0_TYPE = S
14:56
PRINTER_1_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp1
14:56
PRINTER_1_PORT = 9101
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PRINTER_1_TYPE = S
14:56
X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"
14:56
X_ZAxisMapping = "4 5"
14:57
<vagrantc>
jfrancis: whoah there!
14:57
<Gadi>
change "S" to "U"
14:57
and in the future:
14:57
!pastebot
14:57
<vagrantc>
jfrancis: meet the pastebot
14:57
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
14:57
<jfrancis>
sorry, first time to use IRC in my life - this is good!
14:57
<cliebow>
jfrancis, leave us not incur the wrath of Mistik1
14:58
8~)
14:58
<jfrancis>
I am trying "U" now, tried before, but giving another shot.
14:59
<cliebow>
Gadi:you know we spam the channel with the gd !messages
14:59
heh
15:01
<jfrancis>
nmap shows 9100 as netbios, but 9101 as unknown
15:01
sorry, 9100 as jetdirect
15:01
<Gadi>
vagrantc: btw, I was thinking the other day about sbalneav's pet project - why not write the C ldm using the ssh headers and functions? we have the source
15:02
jfrancis: nmap just uses /etc/services to report that
15:02
its hardly authoritative
15:02
<jfrancis>
tried adding new line to /etc/services for 9101 for jetdirect (jetdirect 9101/tcp laserjet hplj) but didn't make a difference
15:02
<Gadi>
if 9101 is up, that means the daemon started
15:02
<vagrantc>
Gadi: that's ambitious ...
15:02* jammcq wonders what the benefit would be
15:02
<Gadi>
vagrantc: should be easier, no?
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<Gadi>
well, why write a c program to make a system call to another binary written in C and "expect" answers
15:03
when you can control the whole conversation
15:03
<jammcq>
umm
15:03
<vagrantc>
Gadi: it would require a more involved security review, i think. as we're using even less that's already time-tested.
15:03
<jammcq>
just for the password changing stuff?
15:03
<Gadi>
just a thought
15:03
then you wouldnt need to worry about translation
15:04* jammcq thinks the whole ldm/ssh thing should be replaced with network authentication anyway
15:04
<vagrantc>
the password changing stuff isn't part of ssh anyways
15:04
jammcq: what does that really change?
15:04
<Gadi>
I see the concern about code review
15:05
<jammcq>
vagrantc: umm, we'd have pam on the client side.
15:05
<vagrantc>
jammcq: so you authenticate locally with some sort of single-sign-on ?
15:05
<jammcq>
yeah, I think so
15:06
<Gadi>
kinda overkill, no?
15:06
<vagrantc>
network authentication != single sign on
15:06
<jammcq>
but it could
15:06
well, single signon is a different can of worms
15:07
<vagrantc>
single sign on would probably require network auth, but not the other way around
15:07
<jammcq>
but I think the thin client needs to know more about the user than it does
15:07
<Gadi>
unless you steal the pam configs from the server for the client
15:07
<jfrancis>
Gadi: changing to "U" did not phase it. What's strange is that the printer comes out of standby when I send a job, but won't print.
15:07
<Gadi>
jfrancis: but it works as lp0?
15:07
<jammcq>
I believe network auth + kerberos is what we will need for mounting home dirs for local apps
15:08
<Gadi>
why not ssh + sshfs?
15:08
<jfrancis>
Yes, both "S" and "U" options work for /dev/usb/lp0 on 9100
15:08
<jammcq>
sshfs doesn't provide the function call to return how much freespace is available. that's the reason we couldn't use it for local devices
15:08
<Gadi>
jfrancis: and you can print the job correctly?
15:08
<jfrancis>
yes
15:08
<jammcq>
which means nautilus and others will refuse to write files to that filesystem
15:09
<Gadi>
jammcq: who's gonna run nautilus as a local app?
15:09
<jammcq>
that's just an example
15:09
but I think firefox may also refuse to write
15:09
<Gadi>
I doubt it
15:09
<jammcq>
sshfs isn't complete and shouldn't be relied on for this use
15:09* vagrantc spent a long time reviewin tcos and got nowhere
15:09
<Gadi>
firefox can write to tmpfs and it doesnt report freespace either
15:10
<vagrantc>
tmpfs reports freespace
15:10
it's ramfs that doesn't
15:10
<Gadi>
how? tmpfs is dynamic
15:10
<vagrantc>
but it actually sets a limit, default is half of ram
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<Gadi>
hmm
15:11
<jammcq>
sshfs is built on top of sftp, which doesn't have a command to retreive freespace
15:12
so that's kind of broken for us
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<ltsppbot>
"jfrancis" pasted "Gadi: Here is my printer setup" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/172
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<jammcq>
Burgundavia: congrats
15:20
<Burgundavia>
jammcq: it has been awhile coming. thanks :)
15:21
<jammcq>
or should I say "Congrats and good luck" :)
15:21
<Burgundavia>
jammcq: my final letter, which I bcc'ed teh entire company, has stirred up quite a little hornets nest
15:22
<jammcq>
ah, fun
15:22
<jfrancis>
Gadi, are you there?
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<jammcq>
!s
15:25
<ltspbot>
jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:25
<sbalneav>
Afternoon all
15:25
hey jammcq
15:25
<jfrancis>
I've read contradicting data for 2 USB printer support on LTSP. Some sources say that jetdirect only works on 9100, and that you have to use parallel for additional printer. LTSP docs specify that 9101, 9102 will be automatically accessible for second and third printers.
15:26
<jammcq>
jfrancis: baloney
15:26
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: ok, so jammcq was saying i should say "bon jour" to people in france. any other helpful tidbits?
15:26
<jammcq>
ltsp supports 3 printers. doesn't care whether they are USB, Parallel or serial, and by default, they'll use ports 9100, 9101 and 9102
15:27
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: Start all conversations with Bon Jour, end all conversations with "merci beaucoup", and smile.
15:27
Worked for us.
15:27
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: heh.
15:27
<jfrancis>
jammcq: yes, but I'm having heck :-/
15:29
<jammcq>
having heck? heh
15:29
bon jour vagrantc
15:29
<jfrancis>
currently, as shown on http://pastebot.ltsp.org/172 my Zebra points to 9100 and works, the Brother points to 9101 and only comes out of sleep mode light flashes, so some kind of connection is taking place, but no printing.
15:33
<jammcq>
hmm
15:34
and if you switch the 2 printers, does the brother work, and the zebra not ?
15:34
<jfrancis>
yes
15:34
jammcq: yes
15:34
<jammcq>
which version of LTSP ?
15:34
<jfrancis>
4.2
15:34
<jammcq>
hmm, should work fine. I've done lots of dual and triple printer setups
15:35
<jfrancis>
I 'hear' you.
15:37
yeah, i'm a little stumped. Googled like crazy before resorting to IRC.
15:38
Is there anything you would like to review to help determine possible problem?
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<jammcq>
i'll look at your paste entry
15:39
<jfrancis>
cool, thanks!
15:39
<jammcq>
oh, lemme see your lts.conf file
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<jammcq>
also, did you try telnetting to it: telnet whse001 9101
15:40
and then type some text and hit Ctrl-L to eject the page
15:40
<ltsppbot>
"jfrancis" pasted "jammcq: my lts.conf" (50 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/173
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<jfrancis>
hehehe, telnet got handshake, but Ctrl-L not operative.
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<jammcq>
odd
15:45
what about at a shell on the client, can you do something like: cat /etc/lts.conf >/dev/usb/lp1
15:46
<jfrancis>
had to 'kill' my telnet connection to the printer
15:47
shell redirect does not recognize either /dev/usb/lp0 or /dev/usb/lp1. I presume these only exist virtually on whse001 (thin client).
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<jammcq>
jfrancis: I'm saying you should run that from a shell on the client. set SCREEN_02 = shell
15:49
and hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to that shell
15:50
<jfrancis>
ok, I'll be a minute, the client doesn't have shell access for security.
15:55
<joebaker>
jammcq: did you get the message I sent you last night on IRC.
15:55
<jammcq>
umm, nope
15:55
<joebaker>
There was a thin client at surpluscomputers.com for $24 that looks identical to the jammin 125
15:56
<jammcq>
ah, saw something on the mailing list about that
15:56
the st320 ?
15:56
<joebaker>
except of course it doesn't have your special bootup stuff in it.
15:56
Yes that sounds right ... you need the url?
15:56
<jammcq>
no
15:56
there's 2 models, the st320 and the st320e
15:56
the 320 uses a Disk-on-Chip
15:57
the 320e uses a IDE flash disk module
15:57
to re-program the 320, you need a DoC programmer.
15:58
<joebaker>
This was the st320e I think.
15:58
http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=COM10738
15:59
<jammcq>
the video chipset is horrible
15:59
<joebaker>
I saw it in an email bullitin that was sent in the wee early hours of Sunday AM.
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<jammcq>
the GX1 is nothing but a pain, and don't expect it to work well with LTSP-5
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<joebaker>
Well then there you have it.
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<jammcq>
we stopped selling those things a long time ago, and i'm glad we did
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<joebaker>
Dave Richards in Largo was selling a bunch of their thin clients. (upgrading to newer ones)
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<jammcq>
these? or something else?
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<joebaker>
Something else. Looking up his blog....
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<jfrancis>
jammcq: when I was out in the warehouse saw that the telnet request you made worked, however cat /etc/lts.conf >/dev/usb/lp1 doesn't work from screen 2.
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<jammcq>
telnet worked?
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<joebaker>
http://davelargo.blogspot.com/
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<jammcq>
cat might not work, cuz you have the print daemon running
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<jfrancis>
yup.
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<joebaker>
jammcq: hey see you later... I've got to prepare for our LUG meeting tonight. Thanks for the info on that machine.
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<jammcq>
joebaker: those are useless with LTSP
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they are just X terminals
16:07* jammcq is heading home. I'll be back online in a bit
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<vagrantc>
night all
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<jfrancis>
I use DevonIT's PXE thin clients... see "NTA 6020P" on http://www.devonit.com/terminals/terminals_models_features.php
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around $150 a pop, sometimes they go on sale for $120 or they give you free shipping (via their newsletter advertisements)
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<jfrancis>
test
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<str4nd>
pong
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<jfrancis>
just getting more familiar with IRC
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:)
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I'll be connecting again tomorrow morning. Thanks everyone, so far...
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<jfrancis>
EXIT
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<cottima>
are there any fedora/redhat users here?
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<fxrsliberty>
jammcq: can you give me more info on the next hackfest?
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<jammcq>
fxrsliberty: well, we'll all be together in Portland, the week of July 22nd. we haven't organized a hacking time yet. we're all there for Ubuntu Live, and OSCON
20:01
we'll definately have some time to hack and talk and have some fun
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<fxrsliberty>
I've got Guy Lunardi interested in sending someone
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<jammcq>
cool
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dunno who Guy is
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after that, the next event will be at the end of October, in Boston
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<fxrsliberty>
head of desktop dev at Novell
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<jammcq>
ah, cool
20:02
ogra, vagrantc, sbalneav and I will be there. Also, Eric Harrison from K12ltsp will be there
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and probably a few others
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<fxrsliberty>
I wish I could do something productive by going myself.
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<dberkholz>
i'll probablyt show up
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-t
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<jammcq>
ah yeah, it's practically in dberkholz's back yard
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<dberkholz>
certainly at least one of the exhibit hall days, maybe both
20:04
but not all week
20:05
darn unrelated job...
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<fxrsliberty>
jammcq: thank you very much.....have you loaded the opensuse version yet?
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<jammcq>
nope, not yet. hmmm, I was gonna try and do that before wednesday morning
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I'll get with sbalneav tomorrow, and see if I can get something going
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<fxrsliberty>
he was downloading it the last time I knew
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jammcq: what is the future of K12LTSP? will it continue as an RPM distro or move to DEB
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<jammcq>
you'd have to ask eHarrison
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that's totally up to him
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<fxrsliberty>
there is only one other rpm LTSP5 I can find "sysophus" it's Russian I think
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<jammcq>
hmm, never heard of that
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<fxrsliberty>
http://www.altlinux.com/index.php?module=sisyphus&package=ltsp-server-pkg
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<lynn>
I'm having trouble booting one of my thin clients
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it hangs on "eth0: setting full duplex"
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it started once
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but not again
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any suggestions?
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<jammcq>
tell us about your setup
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<lynn>
i have an edubuntu ltsp server and an old pc thin-client
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i tried two different network cards in the old pc and neither worked
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however I have other old pc's running as thin-clients successfully
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it stopped working properly after I put a usb card in, but after taking it out it still doesn't work
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<jammcq>
hmm
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how are you booting? with Etherboot or PXE ?
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<lynn>
i'm booting from the iso's i got from the rom-o-matic site. do you know which one of those that is?
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<jammcq>
hmm
20:35
what kind of network card?
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<lynn>
a 3com 3c905 tx is in there now, earlier i used a sis900
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it worked briefly with the sis
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<lynn>
ok, if i plug the usb mouse in, it hangs on "drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB core driver" instead of "eth0: setting full-duplex". any ideas?
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<lynn>
tried using the sis 900 card again, this time i hang at "eth0: Media Link On 100mbps full-duplex"
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can any one point me in any direction?
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<tiagovaz>
lynn: have you seen http://bugs.debian.org/395145 ?
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<lynn>
i'll check it out, thx tiagovaz
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<tiagovaz>
lynn: try initramfs-tools 0.88 or amadeu's workaround
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<lynn>
tiagovaz, i'm thinking my problem is with the client, because i have other clients working right now.
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<rafaelcardoso>
hi, have something to do with mouse sensibility? using rdesktop script, mouse it's very fast
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build_x4 is default
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<rafaelcardoso>
anybody... using ps/2 mouses
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<harebagg>
anoney in here
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anyone
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