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Channel log from 22 June 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<Appiah_>
hmm
07:21
why would you wanna change the nbi.img pmatulis ?
07:22
<alkisg>
...or more importantly, are you really sure you need nbi.img? :) most clients, even etherboot ones, work fine with pxelinux.0...
07:22
<pmatulis>
Appiah_: i want to change some boot options
07:22
<Appiah_>
pxelinux.cfg ...
07:22
dont need to change the .img
07:23
<pmatulis>
Appiah_: that's for pxe clients
07:23
<Appiah_>
O_o
07:24
so what's using this nbi.img then?
07:25
<pmatulis>
well, non-pxe clients obviously
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07:25* Hyperbyte grins
07:26
<ogra_>
pmatulis, search for update-kernel in the chroot
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<pmatulis>
ogra_: thanks
07:27
<ogra_>
it had a variable that handles the options
07:27
something like BOOT_OPTS or so (cant remember from the top of my had and i'm not near any ltsp atm)
07:28
you need to manually run the update-kernels script inside the chroot after changing the var
07:28
and then ltsp-update-kernels outside the chroot
07:30* pmatulis high fives ogra_
07:30
<ogra_>
:)
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<alkisg>
pmatulis: did you try to force passing pxelinux.0 to your clients from dhcpd.conf? I've seen it work with etherboot clients without problems...
07:46
<pmatulis>
alkisg: not yet
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08:55
<rjune_wrk>
!g
08:55
<ltspbot>
rjune_wrk: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<Gadi>
rjune!!!
09:00
ltspbot!!!
09:01* Gadi feels like he hasn't seen either of you in a while
09:01
<Gadi>
:)
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<cliebow>
Scottie!!
09:40
<sbalneav>
Morning cliebow
09:40
<cliebow>
morning!
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<treyh222>
good morning guys
09:57
is there a reason that ltsp clients after starting the ltsp boot, renogiate ethernet again, with e1000_watchdog ?
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<sbalneav>
treyh222: Well, at boot, they're under control of the pxe bios. After the linux kernel loads, it will re-initialize all hardware.
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10:11
<treyh222>
sbalneav, that makes sense, ty
10:11
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: you folks in brazil yet?
10:13
<sbalneav>
Not yet. Sitting in jammcq's office ATM
10:13
plane doesn't leave 'till 5:00 pm today.
10:13
Overnight flight
10:13
<vagrantc>
wheee
10:13
sorry i couldn't join y'all
10:13
<sbalneav>
I've packed my bags pre-flight
10:14
zero hour, nine am
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And I'm gonna be hi-iiiigh as a kite by then.
10:14
I miss the earth so much
10:14
I miss my wife
10:14
It's lonely out in space
10:15
Geez c'mon people join in: rocket man, elton john
10:15
vagrantc: We will miss you!
10:15
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: heh. you'll have to do the happy packet dance without me
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<sbalneav>
lol
10:23
<stgraber>
sbalneav: hey
10:23
<CAN-o-SPAM>
sbalneav: nice office eh?
10:27
<stgraber>
sbalneav: was wondering, do you happen to have that ldm fix before you leave ? ;)
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10:30
<sbalneav>
stgraber: I'm still testing, but I'll do some work on it down in Brazil. That's one of the reasons for going: I'll get a solid 4-5 days of LTSP hacking in.
10:30
Probably spend some time testing at propus.
10:30
right now, I'm doing some doco-hacking, before we pack up for the plane.
10:31
CAN-o-SPAM: Yes!
10:31
<stgraber>
sbalneav: ok, I'm actually waiting on it before I send anything to Karmic so if you've something to test or hack, just tell me and I'll look at it.
10:31
<sbalneav>
stgraber: expect a full fix this week.
10:31
<stgraber>
sbalneav: btw, look for Fernando Laudares Camargos when you're there, he's one of our employees and will be attending the conference
10:31
<sbalneav>
This is my "ltsp week"
10:32
<stgraber>
and he's brazilian (he's actually Revolution Linux brazil ;))
10:32
<sbalneav>
OK
10:32
I've written his name down.
10:32
I'll find him.
10:33
<ogra>
have a beer on my bill :)
10:33
<sbalneav>
We'll take him out for Caiprianias and BBQ
10:33
ogra!!
10:33
ogra, you did some work on the clutter based UNR desktop, right?
10:34
<ogra>
no
10:34
i'm up to my arms in ARMs
10:34
<sbalneav>
Ah
10:34
You have an arm notebook, yet?
10:34
<ogra>
no GL support there (yet) ... so no clutter
10:34
i have the complete guts of an ARM netbook
10:34
but without case
10:34
<sbalneav>
lol
10:35
<ogra>
though given that the case for it i have seen is bright pink i'm actually pretty happy about not having it ;)
10:35
<sbalneav>
stgraber: Does RL have an "office" per se in Brazil?
10:35
Hot pink. Now all you need is tailfins
10:36
<stgraber>
sbalneav: we're a registered company in brazil and have a sort-of office in Fliorianopolis (probably wrong spelling though)
10:36
<sbalneav>
http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/2008stamps/downloads/finsandchrome/eldorado_300dpi.jpg
10:37
stgraber: cool.
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<ogra>
haha
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<_UsUrPeR_>
stgraber: ping
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<jammcq>
CAN-o-SPAM: ping
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<cliebow>
so in perl..if (`pidof pluto>/dev/null`){{print "ipsec runneth";}...?
11:26
<treyh222>
Ok guys, I'm getting an e1000_watchdog timeout, the ethernet is not syncing fast enough, Gadi suggested that it was a NIC driver problem, so pulled a nic out of a working computer and it had the same problem, is it possible the bios needs to be flashed?
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<asmok_>
alkis: ping
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12:35
<coordinador>
please, how can i optimize ltsp4.2 speed?
12:36
<Treyh__>
coordinador, why not upgrade to 5?
12:36
<coordinador>
i have eboxII
12:36
<monteslu>
though that surely wont help with speed :)
12:37
<coordinador>
with ltsp5 its impossible slow
12:37
<Treyh__>
on what distro?
12:37
<cliebow>
4.2 is pretty well optimized as it is...flies for me with a 200 meg processor and 32 meg ram
12:38
<Treyh__>
coordinador, you running ubuntu as your ltsp server?
12:38
<coordinador>
yes
12:38
ubuntu 9.04+ltsp4.2
12:39
<Treyh__>
I read a lot about ubuntu and ltsp5 with those boxes is slow
12:39
sec still reading thread
12:39* vagrantc chants ebox is the path to pain
12:40
<Treyh__>
hehe ogra's names gets mentioned a couple times
12:40
<vagrantc>
if ltsp4.2 isn't fast enough for you, there is no LTSP known to man that is fast enough.
12:40
<coordinador>
thanks, i tried other distros like rhel but other distros are not so easy to manage for teachers or their packages are a little old
12:41
<Treyh__>
coordinador, how long is the boot time, 3-4 minutes?
12:41
coordinador, looks like an open bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/97456
12:42
<coordinador>
since i turn on the server, the boxes ask for login like 3 minutes later
12:42
ill check..
12:42
<Treyh__>
yea
12:42
ther3e are some suggestions on that link i posted
12:42
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/97456
12:43
but they only shaved off about 20 seconds
12:43
<coordinador>
i actually have problems with... firefox
12:43
when i am browsing some websites (with flash i think) firefox gets very slow
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<coordinador>
and makes very difficult to navigate the website
12:44
<Treyh__>
yea someone mentioned in there that it was an xorg problem
12:44
do a google search for ebox II+ltsp
12:44
i found a ton of articles about it
12:45
<Lns>
vagrantc: what exactly is the issue with the eboxes? I hear so much about how horrible they are
12:45
never tried one myself
12:45
<cliebow>
im not sure ogra ever found a cause for it
12:46
<asmok_>
alkis: is it possible to use two servers, both use your ltsp-server-pnp. I found this old (2006) message: http://lists.thekelleys.org.uk/pipermail/dnsmasq-discuss/2006q3/000905.html
12:46
<alkisg>
asmok_: 2 dhcp servers in proxy dhcp mode, or in normal dhcp mode?
12:46
What are you looking for, dhcp failover?
12:46
<vagrantc>
Lns: they're just mysteriously slower than they should be considering the alleged specs for their hardware.
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<asmok_>
alkis: i have use now this howto for two server setup at school: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDHCPload-balancingFailover
12:47
alkis: yes
12:47
<Lns>
interesting
12:49
<alkisg>
asmok_: I think it's too much of a hack... why not use gpxelinux.0, and then gpxe.priority to set the primary / secondary etc server?
12:50
<asmok_>
how about that "Dispatching method" with LDM? http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#id2538155
12:50
<alkisg>
dhcp failover is a different thing than load balancing, which one are you looking for?
12:50
<asmok_>
not very familiar with gpxelinux, but i try to leran that too
12:52
dhcp failover, see my files here, two identical servers:
12:52
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5-Mantykangas/ltsp-master/
12:52
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5-Mantykangas/ltsp-slave/
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<asmok_>
that one works very well so no need another setup, just wonder what we can do with ltsp-server-pnp
12:53
<alkisg>
Well, I don't think dnsmasq supports dhcp peers, so I doubt that ltsp-server-pnp will be of any help for dhcp failover..
12:54
<asmok_>
ok good to know from developer himself ;-)
12:54
<alkisg>
I'm not actually sure, you have to ask in dnsmasq list
12:55
What you _could_ do is let the router assign dhcp leases; this may (or may not) be more stable than an ltsp server assigning leases
12:55
(e.g. should be less prune to updates, hangs etc)
12:55
In this case, yes, you could use dnsmasq in proxy mode
12:55
(in both servers)
12:55
<asmok_>
ok i will check that option too
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<coordinador>
what is more efficient for eboxII (slow) machines? esd or pulseaudio (assuming that pulseaudio will work with that boxes)
12:57
<alkisg>
And a third option, is to put as many servers as you want, but on different ranges, and let the clients get the lease from whatever server sends the first offer :D
12:57
(hack hack hack :D)
12:57
<asmok_>
I'm no hacker...
12:58
how far is ltsp-cluster thing? is it possible to test on KVM virtual machines, there is no documentation...
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<asmok_>
alkis: by " let the router assign dhcp leases" do you mean something like this? http://wwwn.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Dual_WAN_with_failover
13:03
<alkisg>
asmok_: no, I mean the usual dhcp service provided by the routers...
13:04
<asmok_>
ok, thanks
13:05
<alkisg>
asmok_: e.g.: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_0t/12_0t1/feature/guide/Easyip2.html#wp4363
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<alkisg>
How frequently does a router crash?
13:05
<vagrantc>
depends on the router...
13:06
i'd be more inclined to trust a real linux server...
13:06* alkisg would rely on the router - on a school environment, that is.. :D
13:06
<alkisg>
It's not that I don't trust us teachers, but well... I don't trust us :)
13:08
<asmok_>
i have used my setup for over two years now, first setup was Ubuntu 6.06+ltsp4.2, now Ubuntu 8.04, it has been very stable
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<alkisg>
asmok_: do the teachers have administrative access to the ltsp servers?
13:09
<asmok_>
no, not at all, it's my daughter's school, so i just check things when i pick her ;-)
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<alkisg>
Heh... trying to get better marks for your daughter? ;)
13:10
<asmok_>
elementary school: http://www.mantykankaankoulu.kokkola.fi/
13:11
yes ;-) of course
13:11
<alkisg>
My wife got to finland three years ago; she was impressed by your edu system...
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<pmatulis>
is the use of pulseaudio in ltsp documented somewhere special? or is it non-ltsp (generic) stuff?
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<asmok_>
sad thing is that school is only one in our town - all others schools use W. it is long story why that one school have all on L ;-)
13:15
but now i have to leave, bye - and thanks Alkis - i study more about dnsmasq and routers, good night
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<alkisg>
In my town I "converted" 2 schools to LTSP... one per year, in a few years i'll get a good percentage :D
13:17
<bieb>
are there any issues I should be on the lookout for running LTSP on Ubuntu 64 bit?
13:19
<Lns>
alkisg: =) Keep us all updated, remember to edit the ltsp wiki to document your installs
13:19
<alkisg>
Lns, what?
13:19
We have a wiki for ltsp installations?
13:19
<Lns>
alkisg: ;) http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/SuccessStories
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<alkisg>
Woah!
13:20
<Lns>
hahaha
13:20
<alkisg>
It'll be the first ones for Greece :D OK, will do it sometime in the summer
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<Lns>
alkisg: look forward to seeing the details =)
13:23
<alkisg>
Don't expect much; just ancient PCs and a brand new server...
13:23
~500€ budget per lab
13:24
<Lns>
sure, but that's one more success!
13:25
<bieb>
Lns: you part of ALE too?
13:25
<Lns>
bieb: ale?
13:25
I like to drink ale... ;)
13:25
<bieb>
Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
13:25
<Lns>
bieb: nope, i'm out in california :)
13:26
<bieb>
ok
13:26
<epsas>
i remember the atlanta linux showcases
13:27
<bieb>
epsas: they were started by the members of ALE
13:28
<epsas>
yeah
13:28
<bieb>
some of those guys are still around and come to the meetings
13:29
there was a new linux showcase type event ... it was at Clemson University South East Linux fest
13:29
<epsas>
in south carolina?
13:29
nice
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<epsas>
their school of agriculture sells nice milkshakes and ice cream. i'd go there again
13:32
<Lns>
nothing like ice cream as human bait ;)
13:33
<bieb>
:D
13:34
and it has been said that Clemson has a female student population that is very easy on the eyes :D
13:44
<coordinador>
what if im running ltsp4.2
13:44
and i want to use ltsp5 in some machines
13:44
i know there is a manual for that
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but,,, now the system is in use...
13:44
is it to risky?
13:45
is too risky install ltsp5 now, with the system in use?
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<vagrantc>
coordinador: i think ltsp 4.2 supports installing in /opt/ltsp-4.2 or soemthing like that, so it'll keep everything separate.
13:46
shouldn't be too hard to have both.
13:47
<coordinador>
im scary, but ill do :S in this moment
13:47
dont go pls, in case everything becomes a mess
13:47
thanks haah
13:55
if i have ubuntu 9.04 and i want to have ltsp5, can i install it via apt-get ?
13:57
ok, i found the answer
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<bieb>
sbalneav: you around?
14:15
<cliebow>
coordinador, dhcp should be able to take care of the ltsp4.2/5 switching...i do it for netvista,standard and ibooks..some served from windows dhcp..some from linux..
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<coordinador>
thanks
14:24
<cliebow>
because it is the initramfs that makes a call to the server for an nbd mount(ltsp5) or nfs mount..
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<coordinador>
now im 4.2 already installed, but in website they say that i have to install ltsp5 first.. do ill have any difficulty if i install ltsp5 after ltsp4.2?
14:27
*im 4.2-> i have 4.2 lol
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<Lns>
greets nubae
14:27
64
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<cliebow>
coordinador, the ltsp5 will overwrite things like default position of dhcpd.conf..to be safe just move /opt/ltsp/i386 to a nice safe place..first
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<cliebow>
default directory for tftp will prob change as well..so put your old tftpdirectory in a safe place as well..
14:33
<Lns>
Gadi: ping
14:36
<cliebow>
the gadmeister is out i am afraid
14:36
we'll have to dock his pay..
14:37
<Lns>
cliebow: ;) He's not still in CA is he?
14:37
<cliebow>
i dont know..
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<nubae>
hiya Lns
14:39
<cliebow>
nighty
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<nubae>
Going to Berlin tomorrow for Linxutag...wonder if ubuntu will be represented... I suppose so in some form or another...
14:39
<pmatulis>
what's the use of a sshfs mount for a user's home directory?
14:49
<Gadi>
Lns: pong
14:49
<Lns>
Gadi: hey! how'd that install go?
14:50
<Gadi>
it went
14:50
:)
14:50
<Lns>
=p~
14:50
<Gadi>
they should be using it today with a class
14:50
haven't heard anything yet
14:50
<Lns>
woo! nice. You're obviously not out here anymore right?
14:50
<Gadi>
nope
14:50
home since Tuesday AM
14:50
<CAN-o-SPAM>
how many G?
14:51
<Gadi>
I dunno, 30uish
14:51
*30ish
14:51
atm
14:51
nothing (yet) to write home about
14:51
:)
14:52
though, I must say, I like schools with VLAN switches
14:52
<CAN-o-SPAM>
at DisklessWorkstations.com, we pilot with smiles! haha :)
14:52
gig infrastructure too?
14:52
<Gadi>
hmm.. good question - I didn't really ask :)
14:54
pmatulis: we use sshfs for the home dir for local apps
14:54* Lns hopes at least the server had a gigabit link.... :/
14:54
<Gadi>
Lns: oh yeah
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<Gadi>
2, in fact
14:54
:)
14:54
<pmatulis>
Gadi: ah
14:54
<Lns>
nice..bonded?
14:54
<pmatulis>
Gadi: thanks
14:54
<Gadi>
pmatulis: np
14:54
Lns: not at the moment
14:54
:)
14:55
<Lns>
That's so funny, because I just put up a vid about bonding last week..horrible quality, but I'm going to re-do it at my next school deployment (probably today) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy9SCPeYXIQ
14:55
at the least the video shows the basics of how it works
14:55
<Gadi>
thats funny - someone over the weekend told me they saw my presentation to the local LUG from 2 years ago online
14:55
how embarrassing
14:56
hours of video of watching urself talk
14:56
:)
14:56
<Lns>
hehehe
14:56
<Gadi>
worse, its the first result on google for "gideon romm ltsp"
14:56
:P
14:56* Lns googles quickly =p
14:56* Gadi needs to start seeding the search engine with links to porn
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<Treyh_>
Gadi, Hiya
15:09
Gadi, remember that issue I had last week with the nic and it was probably a driver issue?
15:09
times out on e1000_watchdog and gives kernel panic
15:11
<Gadi>
ah
15:11
so it is an e1000 bug?
15:11
there was one floating around
15:11
<Treyh_>
well I put in a 3com card
15:11
the original was an onboard
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and the problem continued
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<Gadi>
same error?
15:12
<Treyh_>
the onboard is a 10/100/1000 but the 3com is a 10/100. tried on a gig switch and a 10/100 switch
15:12
yes
15:12
<Gadi>
e1000_watchdog timeout on the 3com card?
15:13
<Treyh_>
yes, I will type out the exact error, it's booting up now
15:13
<Gadi>
okey dokey
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<Treyh_>
k it's working on timing out now
15:16
k got it
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<Treyh_>
i'll pastebot it
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!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
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<ihernandez>
hello. i'm searching the web and docs but can't find how to make sessions persistent
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let's say. a PXE client start a session, he has a problem and the connection is lost or the thinclient goes down... i want the LTSP to keep his session running. is that possible?
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<ltsppbot>
"Treyh_" pasted "IP-Config: eth0 hardware addre" (5 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/384
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<Treyh_>
Gadi, ok I pasted it
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<Gadi>
did you disable the onboard NIC in the BIOS?
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<Treyh_>
yes
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and it's not plugged in either
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<Gadi>
edit your pxelinux.cfg file and add to the line: break=mount
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and reboot
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you will be at an initramfs prompt
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<Treyh_>
k sec
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<Gadi>
ihernandez: LDM sessions cannot persist
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you need to use a different protocol, such as NX
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<ihernandez>
Gadi, I see. Thanks.
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<Gadi>
peristence requires the use of a caching X proxy
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<Treyh_>
Gadi: this look right: cnc@ltsp:/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg$ sudo vi default
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DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img break=mount
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<Gadi>
in other words, the session talks to an X proxy that caches it and then relays the display to the X server
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<Treyh_>
DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img break=mount
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<Gadi>
Treyh_: perfect
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<Treyh_>
k rebooting client
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<Gadi>
when you get to the prompt, you can look a little closer at a few things
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like:
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ls /sys/class/net/
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(to see which interfaces it knows about)
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or ifconfig
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etc
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then, we can load the drivers by hand and see if/why they fail
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<Treyh_>
k
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ok ifconfig is blank
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ls /sys/class/net shows eth0 and lo
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<Gadi>
blank?
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you mean, no IPs
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<Treyh_>
ifconfig just returned nothing
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<Gadi>
try: /sbin/ifconfig
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<Treyh_>
not found
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/sbin/config not found lol
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there is an /bin/ipconfig
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<Gadi>
right
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one sec
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<Treyh_>
k
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<Gadi>
try: ipconfig eth0
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<Treyh_>
k
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ok
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it pulled an ip from the dhcp server
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all looks correct
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hmmm it did say thoug IP-Config: eth0 guessed broadcast address: 172.16.255.255
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weird word to use: guessed
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<Gadi>
well, I guess it was not provided one explicitly
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but derived it from the netmask
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<Treyh_>
k
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<Gadi>
now, it would appear to me that you have a race condition, perhaps
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<Treyh_>
race condition?
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<Gadi>
in other words, two things are going on independently:
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1. the NIC driver has to be loaded
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2. ipconfig has to request an IP
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if #2 happens before #1, you fail
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<Treyh_>
gotcha
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seems like thats what is happening
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<Gadi>
#2 should only happen on condition of 1
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<Treyh_>
is there a way to extend that 60 second timeout?
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<Gadi>
I don't think thats the problem
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that timeout is waiting for an answer from the server
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not for the driver to start
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lets do an experiment, shall we?
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<Treyh_>
i'm game
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<Gadi>
cool
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ok, on the server, do: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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actually, what editor do you like to use
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to edit files?
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<Treyh_>
vi
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<Gadi>
cool
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once chrooted, vi /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ltsp_nbd
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<Treyh_>
sudo chroot failed
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don't think it like sudo
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<Gadi>
ok
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well, chroot in as root
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:)
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<Treyh_>
tried su
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it failed
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tried just chroot
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said no such file or directory /opt/ltsp/i386
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<Gadi>
huh?
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on the ltsp server?
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<Treyh_>
lol
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<-- moron i'm on the client
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sec
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ok i have the ltsp-nbd open
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ltsp_nbd open
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<Gadi>
ok, scroll down until you see "configure_networking"
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see it?
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<Treyh_>
yes
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<Gadi>
before that line, add a line that says "sleep 3"
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and save the file
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then, when you are back at the prompt, do an:
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<Treyh_>
k saved
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<Gadi>
update-initramfs -u
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then, exit out of the chroot
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<Treyh_>
done
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k
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<Gadi>
and do a:
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sudo ltsp-update-kernels
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<Treyh_>
done
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<Gadi>
then, take out the break=mount
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from the pxelinux.cfg/default file
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and reboot the client
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<Treyh_>
k
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rebooting now
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<Gadi>
hopefully, 3 seconds is enough to let the driver load
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<Treyh_>
Gadi, whether this works or not, you really are the man
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<Gadi>
well, we're just tracing atm
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:)
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a little bit of experimentation
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these race conditions are some of the pitfalls of all this "let's speed up the boot time by running things in parallel"
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that only works for things that are independent
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<Treyh_>
i see
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<Gadi>
but, these are dependent functions
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ipconfig is the "y" to the driver's "x"
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for those math folks in the audience
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:)
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<Treyh_>
lol
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ok slightly different error this time
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<Gadi>
ok
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<Treyh_>
ip-config: no response after 60 secs - giving up
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init: .: line 1: can't open t/mp/net-etho0.conf
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so similiar but not the same
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<Gadi>
isnt that what we got the last time?
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<Treyh_>
IP-Config: eth0 hardware address 00:01:02:c4:cb:43 mtu 1500 DHCP RARP
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: 2.971340) eth0: setting full-duplex
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IP-Config: no response after 60 secons - giving up
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init: .: line 1: can't open /tmp-net-eth0.conf
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Kernel Panic
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is what i got last time
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<Gadi>
ok, lets get a little more sophisticated
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<Treyh_>
k
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and if you would like
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i can try the onboard nic again
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<Gadi>
go back to the server, and chroot in, and vi that file again
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<Treyh_>
instead of the 3com
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k
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i'm there
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<Gadi>
now, instead of a simple "sleep 3"
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<Treyh_>
oh wait
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shit
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i put sleep3
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instead of sleep 3
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<Gadi>
oh...
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ok, lets fix that first
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:)
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spelling counts
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<Gadi>
the computer's a strict teacher
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<Treyh_>
lol
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rebooting the client now
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<Treyh_>
did both the updates command first of course
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<Gadi>
ok, you did an update-initramfs -u
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<Treyh_>
yes
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<Gadi>
and the ltsp-update-kernels, too?
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<Treyh_>
and then exited the choort and di that
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<Gadi>
cool
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<Treyh_>
oops
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i copied back over the original instead of the quiet splash lol
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the pxelinux.cfg/default
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no
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it still says quiet splash
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but it wasn't quiet?
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DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash
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is my pxelinux.cfg/default
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but i saw the splash screen?
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<Gadi>
yeah, ltsp-update-kernels, prolly put it back
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you can take out the quiet and splash
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<Treyh_>
ok i took it out
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now what
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still got a kernel panic
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<Gadi>
ok, first, add back the break=mount
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<Treyh_>
k
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k added
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Gadi, and rebooting the client now
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<Gadi>
ok
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<Treyh_>
Gadi, ty for your help again, I have to run, will ttyl
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<Gadi>
ok
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