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Channel log from 17 November 2013   (all times are UTC)

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10:26
<alkisg>
Hi, I downloaded "openSUSE-13.1-DVD-Build0084-i586.iso" but I only see installation and rescue modes, isn't there a live mode available on that DVD?
10:28
Meh sorry wrong channel :)
10:28
But on the bright side, groupadd is available on opensuse too :D
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18:22
<alkisg>
vagrantc: debian, ubuntu, gentoo, fedora and opensuse all have useradd and groupadd... so, I'm committing the change, but without "non-unique", right?
18:40
<vagrantc>
alkisg: and the same syntax?
18:40
<alkisg>
vagrantc: yes, it's the same application exactly, they seem to have taken it from debian
18:40
<vagrantc>
alkisg: without non-unique, it essentialls behaves the same as it does now?
18:41
<alkisg>
The whole shadow package
18:41
<vagrantc>
alkisg: well, that's good news, then.
18:41
<alkisg>
I'm not sure if now it has a specific way that it works, or if it's semi-random... :)
18:41
I think it'd be better to define it from scratch
18:42
<vagrantc>
i'm fairly sure it creates a new group if one already exists with the same gid ...
18:42
er, new gid
18:42
<alkisg>
That's the --force without the --non-unique
18:42
But what about the other cases?
18:43* vagrantc alreaady forgot
18:43
<vagrantc>
too busy trying to sort out u-boot in debian
18:45* alkisg tests the old code instead of ...reading it... :)
19:00
<alkisg>
SERVER: uid=1014(angelos) gid=1014(angelos) groups=1014(angelos),126(vboxusers),1004(a2),1003(a1)
19:00
CLIENT uid=1014(angelos) gid=1014(g1014) groups=1014(g1014),261(vboxusers),1003(a1)
19:00
vagrantc: so the current code fails miserably in a lot of cases...
19:00
<vagrantc>
oh, that's well known :)
19:00
<alkisg>
It didn't create a gid for "angelos=1014" because one already existed,
19:00
<vagrantc>
that it fails badly
19:01
<alkisg>
it didn't create a group for 1004(a2) because another with gid=1004 existed etc
19:04
OK so to sum up, (a) if a group name exists, just use it, (b) if a gid exists, create the group with another gid
19:05
So that would behave differently than it does now, i.e. not "angelos:g1014", but "angelos:angelos" = "1014:1015random"
19:06
And hopefully that's the right thing to do, for tar etc to work correctly
19:37
<vagrantc>
alkisg: the only right thing to do is make sure thee aren't differences across machines ... so it's just a question of what the least bad thing is
19:37
<alkisg>
vagrantc: what do you mean "differences across machines"?
19:38
<vagrantc>
alkisg: mismatched name/gid
19:38
<alkisg>
File systems (e.g. NFS) or programs (e.g. TAR) that do ID mapping, would behave better with --non-unique
19:38
Those that do name mapping would behave better without it
19:39
<vagrantc>
if you think there's a compelling reason to use --non-unique, let's try it :)
19:39
<alkisg>
It makes code 3 lines shorter and it's just a bit more consistent :D
19:40
But other than that, I think we should wait for bug reports with actual use cases where --non-unique is prefered or not
19:40* alkisg puts --non-unique back... :)
19:40
<vagrantc>
alkisg: would it be too much to ask to keep the codingstyle consistancy in a separate commit? :)
19:41
<alkisg>
Meh. I think it's the 20th time I do that, you should have caught me doing so sooner :P
19:42
vagrantc: should I also cache/restore shadow and gshadow?
19:42
<vagrantc>
no worries
19:42
<alkisg>
And, sed them?
19:42
The previous code didn't; but I think we need to
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