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Channel log from 21 January 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<frederickjh>
Good Morning all!
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<elias_a>
Good morning!
01:51
<frederickjh>
Just was working on upgrading my chroot and ran into a problem with dbus and dbus-x11.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/552404
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How do I go back to the previous packages or fix this?
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The error is this:
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dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of dbus-x11:
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dbus-x11 depends on dbus; however:
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Package dbus is not configured yet.
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dpkg: error processing dbus-x11 (--configure):
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dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
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<frederickjh>
I will take that as a nobody knows.
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<knipwim>
frederickjh: at this hour, this is not a busy channel
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<frederickjh>
Yes I know.
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<frederickjh>
One upgrade and you can break the whole system.
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<knipwim>
can't you find anything on the dbus configuration in the ubuntu docs?
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<frederickjh>
The problem is in the install package for dbus.
02:12
It is not setup to properly configure dbus in chroot.
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So I am not sure if rolling back to the previous version will help or ball things up more.
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<knipwim>
me neither :)
02:13
you could wait till more ubuntu people show up
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<frederickjh>
You do not know if the guy that filed that bug report come here?
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comes
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<knipwim>
that's alkisg
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<alkisg>
?
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<frederickjh>
Ok, know when he normally wakes up?
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<knipwim>
i think he's awake :)
02:15
<frederickjh>
Ok, so there is light in his timezone.
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<alkisg>
Hehe hi guys
02:16
I completely forgot about this problem...
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<frederickjh>
Hi alkisg!
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New dbus and dbus-x11
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Is there a work around?
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<alkisg>
Got it. Well, you can manually modify dbus.postinst to add that || true that I'm mentioning
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<frederickjh>
ok
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I will take a look
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<alkisg>
/opt/ltsp/i386/var/lib/dpkg/info/dbus.postinst
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<frederickjh>
thanks
02:18
for some reason I cannot log in to launchpad to add my voice that problem.
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<alkisg>
I wonder why it hasn't yet affected more people... I just saw it again in my chroot
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<frederickjh>
That would be after the ".ReloadConfig" but before the "> /dev/null", right?
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<alkisg>
dbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_call \
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--dest=org.freedesktop.DBus \
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/ org.freedesktop.DBus.ReloadConfig > /dev/null || true
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<frederickjh>
Oh, ok
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I will try that.
02:25
ok, that took care of the errors now to rebuild the clients.
02:26* alkisg just did it this way instead:
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<alkisg>
ln -s /bin/true /usr/local/sbin/dbus-send; apt-get install -f; rm /usr/local/sbin/dbus-send
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<frederickjh>
ok, I will make a note of that. does not look like the dbus developers are in a hurry to fix this.
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<alkisg>
I guess if more people comment on that bug report, it'll get their attention
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<frederickjh>
Lets start a campaign.
02:32
Looks like that may not have been the problem
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I am still having a TFTP open timeout.
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When trying to boot the clients.
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<alkisg>
dbus should be completely unrelated to your other problems
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To troubleshoot tftp, see this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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<frederickjh>
ok
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I did an update on the server yesteday.
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I see xserver-common and xserver-xorg-core got updated.
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<alkisg>
Those too should be unrelated to tftp problems...
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<frederickjh>
I will take a look at that.
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ok
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I was just looking as to what might have broken tftp
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I have weird stuff going on.
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I can't get to that webpage an others are timing out.
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<frederickjh>
ok, I finally made it back.
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Weird stuff.
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It looks like the tftp server was not running.
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and afterwards network-manager needed restarted.
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No the clients boot but on login is seems to no accept the user name and password.
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Something tells me this is related to the ssh keys
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How do i recreate them?
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<alkisg>
ltsp-update-sshkeys && ltsp-update-image
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<frederickjh>
Thanks
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should that be run in chroot?
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ok
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no
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I just realized
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Ok, the clients now boot, they can log in and every one has internet access. Thanks alksig for your help! 8-)
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<masai47>
I am way over my head on this. I have been asked to set up a server at a school that will act as fileserver, internet proxy, and a LTSP server. I am hoping to use Edubuntu 10.10 and maybe the clients as Fat clients as they have very reasonable hardware in comparison to the server. Thing is, I dont really know how to get started. I got bogged down after trying to follow up on a suggestion of installing it on RAID5. Now I just want to get the start of so
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<robehend1>
masai47: what kind of hardware are you looking to use as a server?
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<masai47>
robehend1: core 2 duo, 4GB ram, 3x500GB HDD, But the clients have new celeron processors and 2GB ram
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<robehend1>
how many clients are you looking to support, and will your internet proxy also be filtering based on content?
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<masai47>
8-12 clients
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the 8 primary ones possibly as fat clients as they are new celeron processors with 2GB ram
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<masai47>
and maybe a few extra that are found computers with very old software
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<robehend1>
well, the ltsp part wont be a problem. is the internet proxy going to be doing any content filtering?
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<masai47>
ideally yes
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<robehend1>
just for those 8-12 clients, or for more
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<masai47>
just those
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<robehend1>
oh, thats not bad then at all
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do you have a seperate DHCP that you can modify, or no
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<masai47>
and even if it was more, it will be many years before the internet connection would be capable of anything more than 100kbps and right now it will be more like less than 30
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no
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<robehend1>
oh you want a caching proxy?
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<masai47>
(I barely know what most of this is) but yes because the connection will be so slow?
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<robehend1>
hmm, i'm not sure what to do there then, to be honest. I havent touchd a caching proxy since the nt4 days
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for that, coul dlook into an Endian or Untangle box
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<masai47>
also, for the hardware on the LTSP, I think that at any one time some of the clients will be booted into windows (installed on the clients HDD) and only looking at the server as a file server
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lets not worry about the internet for now
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<robehend1>
well, t he file server is a simple one. I'd recommend just using Samba
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<masai47>
I will (or someone else) will cross that bridge when an internet connection is brought into the school
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yeah
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<robehend1>
Now, you said there was no DHCP server on the network, currently, correct?
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<masai47>
right now there are 3 un-networked pentium 2s in the computer lab
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<robehend1>
alrighty, well that will make it easier
09:02
if i'm not mistaken, i believe you can simply install Ubuntu desktop, run sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone and then build your client.
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<masai47>
I have edubuntu 10.10 which has the LTSP server built in
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<robehend1>
believe you still have to build the client with edubuntu, lemme check
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have you installed Edubuntu already?
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<masai47>
no
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I got bogged down in the RAID issue
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<robehend1>
ah
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<masai47>
might have given up on that though at first it seemed to make a lot of sense
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<robehend1>
well, you could just run the Edubuntu Live ltsp, if your looking for just a "proof of concept" solution
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<masai47>
I may do that
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<robehend1>
if not, i believe you install as normal, and then install LTSP as normal
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<masai47>
I am trying to get the Ubuntu alternat CD to try to install with Raid and than build Edubuntu on top of that
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lets pretend I have the server set up
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<robehend1>
ok..
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<masai47>
what do I need to do to set up an image for the thin (or fat) clients on the LTSP server
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<robehend1>
First, install ltsp. Next, run "sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 --chroot fati386 --fat-client"
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!fat-clients
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<ltspbot>
robehend1: Error: "fat-clients" is not a valid command.
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<robehend1>
!fat-client
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<ltspbot>
robehend1: Error: "fat-client" is not a valid command.
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<robehend1>
darn, i thought that was in there
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masai47: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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<masai47>
thanks
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<robehend1>
alkisg: Had a thought on your vmware ltsp image thing. Would using the Edubuntu ltsp-live suffice, as a testing situation?
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<alkisg>
robehend1: nah, I've given teachers here a live CD long before edubuntu switched to dvd/live, but that's not enough
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A vbox image would allow them to have user accounts, /home etc, i.e. work normally
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<robehend1>
ah, ya, valid point. I was just playing with their new ltsp-live thingy at the moment, is all
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<alkisg>
Also we'll probably ship different VMs per education level, with some greek edu apps that the ministry has here preinstalled (they're big, 4 Gb for primary, another 4 Gb for secondary etc)
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<robehend1>
ooo, I forgot, Greece has adopted Open-Source at the govermental level, havent they
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<alkisg>
Nope, that's russia or something :)
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<robehend1>
i saw russia was mandating it come 2015 or something
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<alkisg>
There's a small ministry team that I'm in that strives to put it in as many schools as possible
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<robehend1>
by ministry, is that a local goverment, federal, or something else completley?
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<alkisg>
Greek ministry of education, local goverment
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<robehend1>
ah, nice
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i'm in the process of lobbying my state gov for more support to open source, but its going...slowly
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<alkisg>
But other teams in the ministry here sign deals with MS, so I'm not very sure about what the future will bring... :D
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<robehend1>
ha nice. Ya, we sign deals with MS as well..but I'm hoping they'll at least make the mandated testing software compatible with linux
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espicially since the company who provides it *already* has a linux compatible version developed and in use
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<alkisg>
That's what we're asking here too, but the previous software versions were incompatible, so we had to package them with a dependency to wine...
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Fun, .exe inside .debs :)
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<robehend1>
I'm in the process of testing if it'll work through Wine, but the state says dont do that, cuz of security..
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<alkisg>
? what does security have to do with wine or not?
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<robehend1>
my thoughts exactly
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<robehend1>
they were concerned that by running it on a non-MS or non-apple hardware, the security of the data would be compromised..
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hmm. now to figure out how to word an email to the new commissioner of education, promoting open source, while not sounding like a stalmanisqe crazy
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<Gadi>
robehend1: hey, did you ever have a problem with likewise-open crapping out when a large number of users log into the server?
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<robehend1>
Gadi: ya, i have. only like 50+ though
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<Gadi>
basically, anything having to do with auth, even a simple "w" command hangs
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unless you restart lsassd
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and then it is fine
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right?
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<robehend1>
yes
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havent tracked down why yet, but its a bit annoying, not gonna lie
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but since likewise has been saying "wait for natty" on things like the assumedefauldomain bug in 10.04, i'm assuming thats what this one will be too
11:34
bbiab
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<Gadi>
robehend1: yeah, I am seeing it in this particular case with 20 users
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<robehend1>
Gadi: ack, 20 users? the servers not underpowered, i'd assume?
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<Gadi>
this is a degree above annoying
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its a VM
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but when it hangs - it isnt resource constrained
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and, as I say, restarting lsassd fixes it
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and then more users happily log in
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problem is, I can't find any logs indicating a failure
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what clued me into it was an strace of "w"
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which showed it trying to connect to lsassd's socket
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<robehend1>
hmm
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ya, I havent found any logs that show issues either, oddly enough
12:18
you on what, Likewise 5.4?
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<finn_>
hello all
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i've recently discovered ltsp cluster
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and was wondering if there is a HOWTO guide of some sort
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for ubuntu 10.04
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<robehend1>
finn_: check out https://www.ltsp-cluster.org/documentation/howto/openvz-setup
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<finn_>
ok
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<robehend1>
some of it is OpenVZ specific, but the general idea should hold
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<finn_>
alright
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thanks
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<mgariepy>
finn_, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSP-Cluster
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<finn_>
ahh
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cool
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<robehend1>
mgariepy: bah, knew i had seen that somewhere.
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<mgariepy>
yesterday :)
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i was scrolling back my logs
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<robehend1>
shhh, dont bring my horrid memory to light
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<mgariepy>
here just like me, i'm just keeping some pointers no real data :D
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<finn_>
ok so the ubuntu.com page seems to be for bigger deployments than i need
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we only have like a hundred clients and two servers
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(small school)
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<mgariepy>
finn_, how many clients will you have ?
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<finn_>
~100
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<mgariepy>
ok nice :D
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<robehend1>
finn_: you doing fat clients, or t hin clients?
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<finn_>
thin
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<robehend1>
how will you be authenticating the users?
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<finn_>
we currently use the standard way.. not sure what that's called
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<robehend1>
and with the 100+ clients?
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<finn_>
sorry what?
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<robehend1>
when you have the cluster setup, how you going to authenticate then
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<finn_>
i'm not sure
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currently we have them all up and running on one server
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<robehend1>
hows the performance for 100 clients off one server? I've been wondering how far it can scale before clustering
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<finn_>
it's not bad
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we have firefox and chromium running as local apps
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<mgariepy>
what's the server ?
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<finn_>
um
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<robehend1>
ya, specs would be great, give an idea
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<finn_>
not sure of the exact specs
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<mgariepy>
4xquad 16G of ram ?
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<finn_>
~20GB ram
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8 cores in all
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can't recall their exact numbers
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<robehend1>
dual processors, or just a quad core with hyperthreading
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<finn_>
checking
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hold on
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alright
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we've got two quad core processors
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1.6GHz/core
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<robehend1>
hmm nice
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mgariepy: say, looked through that cluster guide, but I'm still confused on which servers the users are authenticating to
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<finn_>
we've also got a similar server sitting unused and wanted cluster the two
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<robehend1>
whoa, wait. schools with servers unused? Need a tech? ;)
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<mgariepy>
robehend1, the applications servers
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<robehend1>
i had to build a classic frankenputer for mine
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mgariepy: ah..so, if i did say, likewise-open as my authentication, i'd just install it per-normal on the app servers?
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<finn_>
robehend1: our IT guy is totally overwhelmed with other stuff. I'm doing this as part of my senior project
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<mgariepy>
the users logs into the application server which users ldap or ad or whatever pam support :)
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robehend1, yep
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<robehend1>
finn_: ah, nice. I wouldnt let my students touch my network with a pole ;)
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mgariepy: hmm..sounds to me like a weekend project a-brewin
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<finn_>
yeah we have a less than traditional school
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<mgariepy>
yeah, but, when you have some appserv you will need to share $HOME directory and stuff.
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<robehend1>
nice. then again, my students get confused when I update firefox and it gets a new icon, so take that as ya will
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<finn_>
oh haha
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<robehend1>
mgariepy: oh, ya, they're already mounting their homes via libpam, so thats not a problem
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<mgariepy>
i would like to try glusterfs one day.
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<robehend1>
not familiar, whats that?
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<mgariepy>
http://www.gluster.org/
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like nfs but seems better on paper to me.
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<robehend1>
well, and nfs is proven which is handy
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<mgariepy>
yeah
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<finn_>
so which guide should i use?
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the OpenVZ one?
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<robehend1>
the ubuntu.com one should be fine, as thats what clustering is for, its not dependant on size
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<finn_>
alright
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thanks
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<robehend1>
what i'd say, is get a third machine, wont need much power, and then use both of those fancy servers as app servers
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otherwise, ones sorta going to waste
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<finn_>
ok
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what specs would you suggest for the third machine?
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<robehend1>
mgariepy: the root server of a cluster doesnt need much, does it?
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<mgariepy>
not more then the root server of a ltsp install :P
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it's only a nbdserver
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with dhcpd and tftp
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<robehend1>
ya, so you'd be fine with most any modern computer, i'd asume
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<finn_>
alright
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sounds good
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thanks, all
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<mgariepy>
yeah i guess so.
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<robehend1>
good luck!
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<finn_>
thanks
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i'll probably be back
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<robehend1>
dgroos: Wrote our new commissoner of education today, about changing the testing procedure to support more open source
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<dgroos>
robehend1: What's-her-name, yea, she is a pretty smart, forwardthinking administrator. She worked in Mpls before moving state-wide.
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Good for you--I should do the same and she won't know it's a conspiracy!
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<robehend1>
ya, cassellius. I've heard good things, hoping she's smart enough to want to say "Hey, we're giving alot of money to MS.."
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<dgroos>
Right, Brenda (easier to spell than last name). I wonder who she listens to about technology issues--that would be interesting to know.
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<robehend1>
i met her when she was up in Perham on monday. Didn't go much into tech, just gave the classic "We may have to make dire cuts" speech
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which, according to MSBA, may be a 50/50 deferrment, and cuts of up to 500 per pupil
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<dgroos>
:(
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<robehend1>
no sad face. budget crisis is a perfect time to sneak open source
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<dgroos>
What do you get when you cut past 'bare-bones'? Incomplete skeletons.
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Right--silver lining!
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<robehend1>
ha, valid point, valid point. though, that 500 per pupil bit was scary
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we'd lose at least 5 staff
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<dgroos>
I could tell you stories. In Mpls we have had 25-30 million cut from our budget each year (that I was counting anyway) since 2001. I know that many people on this list are in districts/countries where the same is happening.
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<robehend1>
yep
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my tech budget got a 33% cut last year, a 40% cut the year before..
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I'm down to sub 10k for 2 buildings. and that includes all printer i nk
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<dgroos>
In the last 10 years I've been in 3 schools that have closed!
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<robehend1>
yick
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<dberkholz>
you guys in MN?
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<robehend1>
mhmm
15:48* dberkholz is down in roch
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<dgroos>
and you, dberkholz
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...ester?
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<robehend1>
roch, eh? I'm up by Fargo, myself
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<dberkholz>
yep
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<dgroos>
cool!
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<robehend1>
how much of a linux deployment you have?
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<dberkholz>
i'm more of a distro guy, not ltsp admin
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<robehend1>
oh? how so
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<dberkholz>
i work on gentoo
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<robehend1>
oh, nice
15:50
i tried Gentoo once. I still have the scars
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<dberkholz>
from time to time i even touch ltsp for gentoo, but others have done the vast majority of that
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<robehend1>
i hear nothing but good things about it, but i always screw something up
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<dberkholz>
the trick is to persist till you stop screwing things up
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<robehend1>
so i hear
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<dberkholz>
after you've used it for a few years, you're pretty much a qualified linux expert
15:51
<dgroos>
true for most things in life...
15:51
<robehend1>
i figure when i update my home computer, the old one turns into my linux playground
15:52
since my current linux playground is a bit dated..
15:52
<dgroos>
You know what would be an interesting app...
15:53
a google map with markers showing the locations of all people currently in an irc...
15:53
or does that exist?
15:53
<robehend1>
meh, ip based geotagging isnt that precise yet
15:53
<dberkholz>
wouldn't work so well on freenode with all the masks
15:54
<dgroos>
Not sure how it would work, but I'd love the capability.
15:54
<robehend1>
oh nice. the commissioner's people responded back
15:54
<dberkholz>
it would work ok for you two since your hostmasks have IPs
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not sure where it would say i am, with dberkholz [~dberkholz@gentoo/developer/dberkholz]
15:56
<robehend1>
bah. The classic "we'll take this under advisement, but have no comments at this time" response
15:56
<dgroos>
robehend1: again, I wonder who she listens to...
15:56
<robehend1>
the voices in her head
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<dgroos>
:)
15:56
<robehend1>
oh wait, thats Pawlenty.
15:56
<dgroos>
don't we all :D
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:(
15:57
that name makes me feel like I just bit a lemon... not to get political though.
15:58
<robehend1>
ha, understandable. I was barely old enough to vote last time he got in office, so I'm claiming no judgement on this one
15:59
<dgroos>
As just finishing my first half century, I've got a few years to develop one.
15:59
<robehend1>
ha nice
15:59
<dgroos>
robehend1: did you ever get sch-scripts working to your satisfaction?
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<robehend1>
dgroos: for my uses, its workin. I just run it on the server
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also moved all of installs over to kvm, which was very helpful
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<dgroos>
That's the way they do it in Greece, one ltsp server per room and it's the teacher computer, as I understand it.
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<robehend1>
i can see the benefit of that
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im still on one vm per building, but its workin so far
16:01
introducted my k-4th graders to Gcompris this week. Pretty sure the teachers are gonna give me a medal or something
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<dgroos>
how's kvm related?
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nice.
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<robehend1>
dgroos: cuz I can vnc into the machine via virt-manager, which allows the screen broadcasting to work and such, all in one nice interface
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<dgroos>
Interesting--there are so many different ways to do similar things.
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<robehend1>
yep. i used to do NX, but no need with this. though it is slower than NX
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<dgroos>
I use NX and do love it.
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but it can be a bear to make work...
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<robehend1>
used the webclient yet?
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<dgroos>
?
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<robehend1>
nomachine has a web-based java NX client you can throw on a webpage
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so, you dont need the client installed on your machine, it just grabs a plugin from the java one and goes
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<dgroos>
sounds interesting--haven't tried it.
16:08
got a question,
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<robehend1>
its pretty slick. we use it to provide students access to the system out of the building
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shoot
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<dgroos>
I've got more an ubuntu question here--I've got an application I run on both the server and as a localapp and it won't print--other apps eg firefox and oo print.
16:09
<robehend1>
you install cups in the chroot?
16:09
<dgroos>
no, I don't remember doing that :)
16:09
<robehend1>
thats what I had to do for localapp printing, and it automatically found the printers on the server then
16:09
<dgroos>
But, it doesn't print when run on the server, either.
16:10
<robehend1>
oh
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hm
16:10
couldnt tell ya there. but i'm out for now. Gotta go drive through the blizzard for an hour
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<dgroos>
OK thanks anyway.
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<robehend1>
have a good one!
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<alkisg>
Wait, robehend1 is using sch-scripts? Woah, we have 2 international users... :D
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<markit>
hi, any ACL expert? I'm confused about the difference in behaviour when I copy a file into an acl directory... seems defaults are ignored
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I've a dir where teachers have rw default, and students r only
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if teacher creates a file there, is ok
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if he copies from his home, becomes "r" for teachers also
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<gk__>
hello
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<pmatulis>
helo
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<mahdi_ja>
hi all.
23:26
in ltsp management any client can have a personal printer ?
23:28
<vagrantc>
you can connect printers to individual clients, and set default printers for individual clients
23:29
<ball>
Could I choose which terminals supported USB flash drives?
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(I'm guessing terminals can serve those up to the server)
23:32
<vagrantc>
yes
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<ball>
mahdi_ja: What protocol is used to serve the printers up to the host? lpd?
23:32
<vagrantc>
you could specify LOCALDEV_DENY_USB=true or false
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<ball>
vagrantc: Thanks, that's helpful.
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<vagrantc>
actually, look at the manpage for lts.conf ... i'm a little blurry on the LOCALDEV_DENY options off the top of my head
23:34
the protocol used to server up local printers to the host is the HP jetdirect protocol, which is currently implemented using jetpipe
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<ball>
It's helpful to know there's an option and where to look for the details.
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<mahdi_ja>
ball, yes i use ldp?
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<ball>
mahdi_ja: Thanks.
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